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Stanislav Moravec

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Stanislav Moravec (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can prove Moravec exists/existed because he has/had four appearances for Slovakia national football team and currently works as a manager, neither of which is considered free pass. Regarding secondary sources, the best I found is Gulf Times. Corresponding Wikipedia articles in other languages don't provide significant coverage of him.

Please note that this birth name is common in the Czechoslovak scene, so it's possible to find namesakes such as a kid footballer, which I can't prove whether or not he is related to the former footballer. This article has existed for 16 years without any decent source, and a redirect to List of Slovakia international footballers might be an alternative to deletion.

⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing an amateur team looks like a weak claim to notability. As Moravec's profile is not listed in the current squad anymore, I doubt he left the club, but probably have to ask the club for confirmation. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that he played his career in a top-tier league etc. is based on now-defunct guideline NFOOTBALL. There are no sources which prove notability of this person, so the article should be redirect to List of Slovakia international footballers or deleted. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with you, NFOOTBALL was a guideline that opened up for everyone who played even a single minute in this and that competition. That's not remote to the subject we are talking about here. Geschichte (talk) 16:23, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – Per above. Some of the recent nominations of these Slovak players have not had a good WP:BEFORE. Svartner (talk) 19:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect. Where is the required citation to a GNG source? Footballer accomplishment/league play was explicitly deprecated as a notability rationale, there is no carve-out for people who meet some arbitrary standard like "interesting career". I searched sport.sk archives and found only a handful of passing mentions (like this and this) and quotes from him as coach, e.g. this. Nothing in Spectator, SK Today, Sky Sports; nothing in the Wiki Library. If someone manages to find actual coverage of him somewhere they can easily go into the redirect history and restore the three sentences currently there. JoelleJay (talk) 23:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question @JoelleJay: Redirect to where? I don't see how you can redirect, I also find it strange that people above are voting to keep over my comment, at no point did I say keep! Seems you managed to find some sources know, they seem a bit weak know. There is a reason why he earned four national team caps hence my comment above, find that out and that could help with the GNG problem. Regards. Govvy (talk) 10:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Redirect to where? His name is mentioned in List of Slovakia international footballers.
    As GiantSnowman said, given the generation of this former footballer, there might be archived sources. We just have to know whether or not they provide significant coverage of Moravec.
    ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:45, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I based my redirect recommendation on what Clariniie had said above in response to Geschichte. GNG does say Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability, so if a search of the online archives of four of the top Slovak sports news orgs didn't yield anything, that ought to count for something. The article can be recreated if someone finds SIGCOV in offline newspapers, but right now it directly violates SPORTCRIT. JoelleJay (talk) 17:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JoelleJay: The problem with doing that redirect, it then hides all his other activity, it's better to delete the name, that way if people search for it, they will also find it on other pages, like FK Dukla Banská Bystrica, where he is listed as notable. But why is he notable there you must add, because he also has international caps, there maybe another reason. So the redirect logic is not a sound one. Besides, I'd still believe he is notable for the reason, getting to be capped by the national team is a good feet. I feel the nomination has not considered this at all, and are putting his name in the same boat as small islander nations. Moravec was selected from a much bigger pool of footballers to choose from. This is where the nomination fails, because this hasn't taken that into account. Govvy (talk) 17:44, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why should we take that into account when those kinds of criteria were explicitly deprecated from NSPORT? And the article is still required to cite a source of SIGCOV even if the subject does meet a sport-specific criterion. JoelleJay (talk) 18:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was explaining why a redirect wouldn't work and a few issues, so why on Earth would you say deprecated from NSPORT. People talk about silly wikipedia policies all the time and those that are doing that rarely look for sources from my prospective. Govvy (talk) 22:12, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marián Bochnovič

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Marián Bochnovič (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Having an international appearance is no longer a free pass and Bochnovič needs to meet WP:GNG only in order for this article to be kept. I've checked corresponding Wikipedia articles in other languages, especially the Slovak one which would help copy over, but none of them provide enough significant coverage for him. I only find SME, but one source is not sufficient. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:29, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clare Dimyon

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Clare Dimyon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There's only one article (After Ellen) that is significant coverage of Clare Dimyon. The MBE is the UK's lowest state honour, with hundreds awarded every year. There are simply too many of them being awarded to make anyone who receives them notable Ynsfial (talk) 16:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michal Malák

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Michal Malák (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2010 Winter Olympics#Cross-country skiing because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG. Corresponding article on Slovak Wikipedia is likewise an unsourced dump. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:53, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - If you look at his record on the International Ski Federation (FIS) website which is linked in his article, Malak competed in the 2010 Winter Olympics only, not the 2018 Winter Olympics. The FIS database is among the best kept athlete recording from the 1924 Winter Olympics onward. Chris (talk) 16:45, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Database sources don't comply the whole notability guideline (GNG). Following WP:NSPORTS2022, participation in tournaments is no longer considered saved from deletion. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 15:34, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Searching through sport.sk archives all I could find were a blurb on the Olympics, brief results/participation announcements, and the subject talking about himself. Nothing but stats from ifortuna.sk, nike.sk; zero hits from tipsport.sk; and stats hits for a different Michal Malák on hokejportal.net. JoelleJay (talk) 02:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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