User talk:StonedChipmunk/ArchiveCs92EW
You and User:Cs92
[edit]Hi. There's obviously something going on between you and User:Cs92. I don't know whether you two know each other in real life or your paths crossed on here, and whether you're really upset with each other or just playing, or what, but the interaction between the two of you isn't good and needs to stop. Why don't you both stop worrying about each other's userpages and contribute some content to the encyclopedia for a bit? Just a word of friendly advice, and I'll be leaving the same message on Cs92's page as well. Regards, Newyorkbrad 23:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is Cs92 listed as one of your favourite editors on your userpage - the person who convinced you to get an account here - yet you are sniping at each other today? Can you carry this conversation on in a civil tone on some other forum? Do you have an issue that requires mediation or arbitration? (aeropagitica) 23:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks! (aeropagitica) 23:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Guys, whatever the problem that you have with each other is, each requesting that the other be blocked for vandalism is not the civilised way to conduct a dispute. Please read the above-linked page and take your issues to the appropriate forum. You are both receiving the same message. (aeropagitica) 23:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Re: Reply to "Resolving disputes"
[edit]If I could direct your attention to the fact that I did nothing at all except be the victim of vandalism and warn him of vandalism. In his own words, I once removed a template because it was in the wrong place (was supposed to be on talk page) and he went ape. I then, later, added a userbox. That is all that I did. Then, out of nowhere, my page gets blanked, partially blanked, and vandalized and then my talk page is barraged with fake vandalism warnings. I have no idea what clicked, but I can't accept this and something has to be done. --StonedChipmunk 23:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Let me give my side: We are roommates at a boarding school. On several occassions, he has gone to Wikipedia for the sole purpose of deleting large amounts of my user page. Today he says "Time to vandalize your userpage" and deletes my userboxes. I then went back and changed parts of his page. After several unresponseive attempts to leave vandal templates, I reported him. --Cs92 23:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I hate these wars. Being a vandalism patroller, I get them often. But my point is, I have NOT EVER done ANYTHING other than what I said to his userpage. We are roommates, but this comment is only a joke and I have never ever deleted anything other than the templates and some text (the text was while he was watching). You can check the history logs for yourself. I have NEVER purposefully visited his userpage for the sole purpose of vandalism. Please do not listen to his cons. Being his roommate, he is a great convincing talker... but PLEASE, read the history logs for yourself. Even if the removal of the templates was considered vandalism, blanking and blatantly repetitively vandalizing my userpage and leaving multiple vandalism warnings for "vandalizing" his talk page (how is leaving a vandalism warning vandalism in itself?? You tell me) is not really an effective way to deal with the situation. --StonedChipmunk 23:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Then this has nothing at all to do with Wikipedia and everything to do with your real-life relationship. Please both of you leave your computers alone and resolve your dispute face-to-face. This will be quicker and more effective than anything that arbitrators and admins can do via Talk pages and blocking for hours/days. Honestly, it will be! Get a mutual friend or a tutor to mediate if you find that you can't raise the issue with each other without getting heated and shouting. This should keep the conversation civil and flowing. (aeropagitica) 23:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with aeropagitica. The last time I saw a quarrel like this, a passing administrator with no sense of humor blocked both of them for a week. That's not what either of you want.
- By the way, this is a completely separate issue, but I'm also not convinced that you want to have so much personal identifying information about yourself on your userpage. Newyorkbrad 23:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- What do you want me to do? Block both of you so that you have no choice other than to talk it through with your councelor as mediator? That's quite extreme and it would be better if you could both demonstrate a high standard of maturity and leave the computer alone while you go to the appointment. (aeropagitica) 23:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't mean this as being funny, but a 24 hour ban on him would be enough to satisfy me. If you notice, I did nothing. Cs92 was the one who vandalized. I don't see how hard it is to understand, really. (This is NOT a relationship issue. It's a Wikipedia issue.) --StonedChipmunk 23:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I am telling you to take your dispute to a mediated resolution in the real world. Punitive blocks won't solve anything and the vandalism usually continues when the block expires. Let's all be grown-up about this. I'm signing off now, so I won't see any responses for at least six hours. I hope that you're not blocked when I check back tomorrow. (aeropagitica) 00:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)