Wikipedia talk:Don't-give-a-fuckism

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Oh God... I wasn't expepecting that userbox.. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 19:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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This page has to be renamed to reflect politeness.--10:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Who the fuck gives a fuck about fucking politeness? Besides, Wikipedia is not censored. oTHErONE (Contribs) 06:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rewording indecent language is not censorship.--08:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
It was created as Wikipedia:Don't-give-a-fuckism and it will stay that way. oTHErONE (Contribs) 09:39, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Well, I'm fine with changing the name... but I think the "fuck" sort of embodies the entire idea behind the ism. But yeah... I don't really care. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 14:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm outraged and offended at the rudeness behind this article. PROD ahoy! ;D--WaltCip 23:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care how offended people are by the title, but it seems that the title could be more accurate. Don't-give-a-fuckism seems to be a title for sensationalism instead of accuracy. A more correct title would be Apathetic Philosophy or something along those lines. Don't-give-a-fuckism should be talked about inside the article (i.e. an alternate phrasing). I like the article, but I think it needs to be edited to sound like a serious article. --Jfowler27 16:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO it doesn't need to be censored (make the title more palatable to sensitivities) to be "serious." Its irreverence is the point. Readers who don't "get it" don't have to, 'cause we DGAF. See? But if the title is keeping the thing in a rut, maybe "Ambiable Apathy" or "Irreverent Apathy" (see my userbox mod below) is more your (plural) cuppa tea? David Spalding (  ) 21:35, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree it doesn't need to be censored, at least not simply because it offends people or uses course language. I'm starting to see that it might not hold the same weight or meaning if the title is changed. It felt inaccurate at first, but going through it again, the suggested apathy is obvious in the actual article and the creation of an ism for it is a fairly good idea. Don't-give-a-fuckism might ruffle a few stuffy people, but who gives a fuck. Right? --Jfowler27 07:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty much... --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 22:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NO! I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE DELETED NOW!!!!!!!! I AM SHOCKED AND DEEPLY OFFENDED THAT AN ENCYCLOPEDIA AS FINE AS WIKIPEDIA WOULD CREATE SUCH AN INSULTING ARTICLE!!!!!! Ntyfj 18:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am shocked an appalled you cannot follow basic Internet conventions on such a fine site as Wikipedia. But as it has been stated above, Wikipedia is not censored. If you want to discuss how this page needs to be revised, or in fact deleted, maybe you should divulge your reasoning other than that you are deeply offended, because that alone is a very hollow argument. --Jfowler27 20:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Get up off your fucking soapbox

Change the name to reflect politeness, go shag a donkey. --Maxasus 15:41, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha... how contradictory. ^_^ --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 22:46, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like this essay and disagree with the PROD nomination. WP is not censored, is not a democracy. If you don't like the article, don't read it. — David Spalding ta!k y@wp/Contribs 13:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Expand Article

DO NOT DELETE THIS ARTICLE Oh My God. Best article I ever read here on Wikipedia. Surprised it has not been deleted yet. So funny, I cannot help but request for it to be expanded upon. Two thumbs up to the author.  :) --The Jax 01:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, awright, I'll try to give a fuck sufficiently to add a little to The Little Essay That Couldn't (Give a Fuck). BTW, I love the userbox, but modified it a bit for my own use. David Spalding (  ) 04:16, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
DGAFThis user doesn't give a fuck and regards angry mastodons with amiable apathy.

WTF?

What kind of weak, sad article is this? Save your jokes for uncyclopedia. This is a real encyclopedia. Wolfdog 23:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  1. It's not an article, it's an essay.
  2. Are you saying apathy is a joke?
  3. We know. oTHErONE (Contribs) 23:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


A sense of humour is necessary to "get" this essay. Just as it is with WP:NAM, WP:CHILL, WP:TIND, and manymanymany titles under Category:Wikipedia_essays. David Spalding (  ) 00:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  1. I apologize for seeming as though I was trying to shoot down this page. I do think an idea such as "not-giving-a-fuckism" would be funny, however I do not understand what it has to do with an online encyclopedia. It just seems unnecessary or perhaps I simply do not understand its relevance. Maybe if this could be better-explained Wolfdog 03:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

It's a very Buddhist idea that conflict comes from attachment and can be solved only by apathy, but it's not a universal idea. But I'm not sure that it is the best use of the Wikipedia policy space to promote such a very specific idea about where conflict comes from and how it can be solved. There are other approaches, after all, to creating harmony. Perhaps it might be better to allow for them, and in particular to allow room for people who care about their opinions and views and explain how we can still be civil with each other, be respectful and fair to opposing ideas, and be careful to check facts while we have whatever opinions we have and give whatever fuck we give about them. This is, after all, most of us. Best, --Shirahadasha 21:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]