Talk:Confucianism

removed redirect now that there is some more content here. Added some old lecture notes of mine to what was little more than a stub when i got to it Could we ask a native Chinese speaker to pinyinise the names and terms? Thanks --- clasqm

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I added an outline and some content on the history of confucianism. Also there is a section on "shi" and the relationship between Confucianism and the Chinese state which I think is very historically inaccurate, but I've left it until I can think of something better to write Chenyu

Thanks, Chenyu!

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Confucianism was not and has never been any religion. This is proved, in my opinion, as Confucius accepted the heavenly mandat (kind of God/holy law) as the supreme and only rightous way to go about state governing, family life and so on. He was obsessed with the rules of propriety. During the Han dynasty, however, Master Zhongni was idolized and often given "super powers" by fans.
I just visited China and people repeatedly reminded me that Confucius was no God, but "probably one of the greatest thinkers in the world"!
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I think you are correct. It's really more of a philosophy than a religion, though in practice it may get intermingled with bits of Taoism or Buddhism, especially as 'folk religion'. Wesley

I think that's really strange, since Taoism goes for the spiritual while Confucianism goes for the physical. It's also interesting to know that Master Zhongni met the founder of Taoism, mr. Laozi (which means "old baby" as he was born with white hair) accidently since he was going to browse China's archive of scrolls and Laozi happened to be the archivist. During the 1 month of studying the old rules of propriety at this library Zhongni actually learns more from Laozi than from the books.

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The above story has been the claim from Taosism radicals as their school of philosophy is more superior than Confucianism. kt2

The above story is supported by historical records from that time. Again, Taoism and Confucianism doesn't have any ties and should not be compared. Taoism is focusing inwards while Confucianism is focusing outwards (very simplified, of course).

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I also consider Confucianism as a philosopy more than a religion. But when talking about Taoism, it can mean a religion or a philosopy. This is kinder confusing in English but in Chinese we have Dao Jiao and Dao Jia which is definitely not the same thing. And Laozi means Master Lao rather than Old baby, just like Kungzi stands for Master Kung. --Lorenzarius 10:32 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

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3. http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~nsivin/taixuan.html The First Neo-Confucianism
4. http://www.chinaknowledge.de/Literature/Classics/neoconfucianism.htm Neo-Confucianism and later Confucian philosophy
5. http://faculty.washington.edu/mkalton/NeoConfucianism.htm Neo-Confucianism: The synthesis of Taoist cosmology and Buddhist spirituality around the core of Confucian concern with society and government, a synthesis which predominated in the intellectual and spiritual life of China, Korea, and Japan prior to the modern period.
6. http://www.hamilton.edu/academics/Asian/TempleCulture.html The Cult of Confucius Images of the Temple of Culture
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8. http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/TOKJAPAN/NEO.HTM The tenth chapter in the learning module, Chinese Philosophy. This chapter discusses the main outlines ofNeo-Confucianism in its two
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001SECT9.html Chinese philosophy: 9 Neo-Confucianism: Zhu Xi and Wang Yangming

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xrefer - neo-Confucianism

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THE PRINCIPAL FIGURES OF "NEO-CONFUCIANISM"

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Neo-Confucianism & Education

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Tokugawa Confucianism. Neo-Confucianism - by Richard Hooker. Confucianism from

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Neo-Confucianism (especially Chu Hsi Confucianism) was the most important

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Religion - Confucianism

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ConDao Talk TOC

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Korean Beliefs and Religion: The Development of Buddhism and ...

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Chinese and China Resources. China and philosophy and religion

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Basics of Religion - Confucianism & Taoism

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htm North Korea: Confucian Values

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III. Religion. Confucianism. By Alfred Dwight Sheffield. 1909-14 ...

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This is a study of the most significant debate in Korean Neo-Confucianism

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The original impulse introducing Neo-Confucianism

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man, Han Yu, is often referred to as the founding father of Neo-Confucianism

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Back to Religion/Philosophy in Korea. ... was introduced to Korea before Buddhism,

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llegg/Koreas%20religion%20og%20Filoso7.htm Koreas Religion og Filosofi: Forelesning 10: Neokonfutsianismen i ...

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Confucius, however, believed that the basis lay in Zhou religion

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of these themes form the basic parameters of the study of religion

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ideology of the Chinese state, it has never existed as an established religion ... Neo-Confucianism.

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... ideology of the Chinese state, it has never existed as an established religion ... Neo-Confucianism

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Neo-Confucianism: Buddhism reached a creative and flourishing peak during the

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Adherents.com - Religion Name Index – N

1. http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/reacting/china/confucianism.html Confucius and Confucianism
2. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/china.50/imperial.icon/rulers/ Rulers of the Middle Kingdom
3. http://www.greatcom.org/resources/areadydefense/ch26/default.htm CONFUCIANISM
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