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Thanks

Thanks for adjusting my userboxes. Regards, iswatch19. ^{iswatch19 talkpage} 08:10(pm), 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Australian Olympic medalists in Swimming

Hello I@n. Sorry for taking so long. I was out of action from 25/7 to 1/8 due to illness, and since then, seem to have been designated to patrol a lot of Indian religious pages and a few India-Pakistan military things (even more after Anwar being blocked a month for socking Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Anwar saadat), and amusingly, seem to get even more messages from Indian editors than even Nichalp and Gurubrahma (lol) - so it seems I need to spend a lot of time trawling through about 10 guys' edits for testy dialogue and aggravating retoric on talk pages. So I haven't been to delete or write much, but personally that may seem a good excuse to default to the incumbent version, if for no other reason. Although I guess the Olympics are often associated with medal tallies, so maybe the medal ranking maybe more natural as well as my laziness. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 04:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, these things are unfortunate sometimes. It has basically dissipated now, so I got stuck into an expansion of Ricky Ponting which is explained on its talk page, as well as cleaning up Monty Panesar - he seems to generate a lot of humour. Blnguyen | rant-line 06:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I found some.Blnguyen | rant-line 05:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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Performance Poetry

Should be out of where it is as a separate art - no-one deserves that relative space within an art like that, it's as though some little vegemite didnt know how to start a new art :( SatuSuro 03:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Maaf maaf saya lupa orang ini orang inggeris, belum mengerti semua kata kata tentang sastra australie tak semua omong omong sastra tinggi daripada orang keras dalam "pub". OK, I am about to cut it out - its disproportionate (waah kalau orang ini mengerti, inshallah) to the rest of the article, and not usually acceptable in most conventional academic circles as a legitimate form of "literature in the first place".salaam! SatuSuro 03:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Sekali lagi, maaf maaf pak! Australian Literature (Performance Poetry) SatuSuro 03:46, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Saya Setuju/ yep its a good read /kesalahan besar/ wrong place ! :( SatuSuro 03:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Mudah mudahan, hari ini makin diam lebih diam, saya harus tutup / I can tell something's operating strange in one of the goretex's or should that be cortex, I'm out! (for the day) SatuSuro 03:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Im sure you really need that sort of stuff when you're doing mind blowing awb work? SatuSuro 08:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Brett Lee

Is it true that Lee bowled a 100.3 mph delivery in the 2003 WC ? Tintin (talk) 05:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Butting in, I think that is true. I'm sure Akhtar did once against England in the group stage and then Lee also. IIRC, the commentators made jokes about Nick Knight being on the receiving end of both of them. Blnguyen | rant-line 05:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd not heard it before, but, according to this it seems to be true. -- I@n 05:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

http://ind.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/WORLD_CUPS/WC2003/SCORECARDS/FINALS/AUS_SL_WC2003_ODI-SEMI1_18MAR2003_BBB-COMMS.html has it as 160.1 which is slightly under 100 (160.91 = 100 mph) and is slower than Thomson's best. A google for lee&atapattu&100.3 gets no hits. I guess we should change it to 160.1 Tintin (talk) 05:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Based on MOS, it probably should read "160.1 kph (99.5 mph)". 160.1 is the source (3.6 Lee to Atapattu, OUT: 160.1kph ball, straight and on the off stump does him in, played in a transfixed mode and ball got through) so it should go first. -- I@n 05:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Not slower than Thomson, I think. Thomson's fastest measured delivery was 99.7 mph (160.1) which I somehow remembered as 160.7. Tintin (talk) 07:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

In the second para of the Lee article is a referenced statement that his fastest delivery was 160.8 kph (99.91 mph). -- I@n 07:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Horrie Miller

Do you have any info to start an art, or do i start a stub? Apologies for my effusive indo outburst yesterday btw SatuSuro 10:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Also in your great wisdom - do you think I should leave factoid and statoid alone? I feel a saturday night urge to put them both in afd as crap, but would appreicate your cricket (just remember what the late douglas adams did to cricket ...!! ) thoughts on this one! SatuSuro 14:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I still think theyre both fraudulent and unnecessary articles - even if the meaning is verifiable :) SatuSuro 04:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On 13 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article My Country, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

I love a sunburnt country, very patriotic. Thanks for another gem of a DYK. Cheers --Samir धर्म 23:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Amongst many other things

Looking at the Perth wetlands things in Lake Monger - I was thinking that the Swan Coastal Plain art which was I was trying to expand might "borrow" the lakes of Perth material - what do you think? (note I say nothing about cricket, wisdom, indonesian language, or --oids in the body of this message :) ) it would seem a more logical location, perhaps? SatuSuro 01:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your +ve response. I figured the material in Lake Monger that relates to the coastal plain could migrate. Please keep a check if I seem to remove too much :) SatuSuro 01:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Swan River Colony

I@n, Users Vcxlor and Drew Devereux are both unhappy about their silly argument remaining indefinitely on Talk:Swan River Colony ;). As an uninvolved party, would you have consider whether it is appropriate to archive the talk page to Talk:Swan River Colony/Archive? Snottygobble 06:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I have created Talk:Swan River Colony/Archive 1 and move the discussion there as its now 12mths old and the dates could cause confussion to other editors. Gnangarra 06:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I think Gnangarra and mine paths may have crossed over and confusion has slipped in. Nveer mind its done. Send my regards to the those oldtime editors if you ever see them around. -- I@n 06:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks guys. Snottygobble 06:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)  ::Yup, thankyou gentlemen SatuSuro 09:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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Coords

Cripes the example you gave seems to be a metricised coord with no minutes and seconds, I find it a bit challenging seeing that most of the coords I am getting from Higham, DLI Geographic Names cards, and Geosciences database are all the old stuff. Too many 0000'S for my liking :)

Even more disconcerting is the variation of coor stuff that includes labels inside the brackets giving locations spurious descriptions (I'll have to hunt - but I think Derwent Bridge, Tasmania is designated a type- town when its a 7 building locality ?!*&! )

Over to you for any comment. SatuSuro 06:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Smelly

Indeed! Well we dont die, we just smell that way (viz the Late Frank Zappa and Jazz) :) Problem is I dont know how to convert the old to the new - and I agree with Snot -maybe we need to put both versions on (sigh) SatuSuro 06:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

List of states by area has been changed - I dont know the correct measurements - it might need reverting again (Sigh)SatuSuro 08:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks Fritz. I have no idea where I got that photo from. Probably technically it's a copyvio in my blissful ignorance of early editing (Nov 2003). It's not used so I've deleted it. -- I@n 23:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm back

After a few days off-line I'm back. I have resolved though to cut back on my wikitime (we'll see how long that lasts) ;-). Cheers everyone. -- I@n 23:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Life's too short to have too much wiki time :) SatuSuro 00:44, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Marudubshinki

has promised not to run bots without a bot flag, and asked to be unblocked. Snottygobble 00:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm back / User:Marudubshinki

How's the cognitive dissonance per the previous two sections? On the one hand, you resolve to cut down your wiki-time. On the other hand, you're away for one hour, the shit hits the fan, and you missed out on the fun of being splattered with it. I imagine you're going through some serious mental conflict right now. This is a hard habit to kick. Snottygobble 03:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Tryal/l

Thanks for cleaning up the mess. I was at DLI during the week and got a good old topo of the montebello's so one day I'll try to expand the pitiable excuse of an art :) SatuSuro 14:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Sock puppet tag, re: Rhwawn

Doesn't the sockpuppet template usually go on the user page, and not the talk page? --maru (talk) contribs 00:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Peotry

Such alluring poetry, such an eligant abonimation, what an ephergy worthy only of a revert or political demonstration plackard. Only life as an admin can draw such dribble, SG will be pleased with the revert Gnangarra 11:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I've noticed that Gnangarra 12:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks I@n, and thanks for the laugh Gnangarra. Snottygobble 12:23, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

with DYK thats cool I've modified it bit more, I prefer using ironically to however it sound more dramatic for a DYK. Gnangarra

Graham/Garth McKenzie

Hi, Ian. Sorry for not replying sooner. I saw your message a few days ago but was just on my way out and then I forgot.

It's a borderline case, this one. All the books I've got call him Graham although David Frith does mention that he was nicknamed Garth. I think that really we should rely on primary sources and if they use what amounts to a pseudonym like Tiger Smith; or a diminutive like Plum Warner; or variant like Jack Hobbs, then we should use that and not the proper name. But if they use the proper name then it must follow that generations of readers have adopted the proper name too in their own usage and so I think a nickname should then be just that, but I certainly think it should be mentioned in the article that he had the nickname. For example, with Hornby, I've included both his known nicknames in the article.

All the best. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On 20 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tryall, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for the article I@n. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 06:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Montebello Islands

Your tryall art has the navigators getting confused/ the dli geographic names cards have the confusion of islands created by incorrect identification of islands and places - do you think there is anything in that apart from incompetence? SatuSuro 08:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually your entry in tryall explained things a bit better - the issue that an anonymous dola person of old brought up in the card index was the problems that some of the post tryall explorers had with recognising what they were encountering - and trying to guess what was what - they confused islands and headlands a bit. Until I get into the info at DLI its probably not worth exploring too much - it seems some people got things wrong - and somehow admiralty charts picked the mistakes up rather than checking them (just like current map makers make mistakes) :) SatuSuro 12:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Gawd it must be the weekend, I answered on my own talk page :) I do have some that I can scan portions if you would like :) please let me know SatuSuro 13:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

If you want to email me off-wiki I could also drop the maps off on tuesday or thursday this week as long as youre not in mandurah or something :) SatuSuro 13:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

M y reading dutch is atrocious (!) and speaking zilch, but noticed this: - Tasman, Abel Janszoon, 1603?-1659. Title: De reizen van Abel Janszoon Tasman en Franchoys Jacobszoon Visscher ter nadere ontdekking van het Zuidland in 1642/3 en 1644 / uitgegeven door R. Posthumus Meyjes. Publisher: 's-Gravenhage : Nijhoff, 1919. 299 p. : ill., maps. Series: Werken uitgegeven door de Linschoten-Vereeniging ; 17 in national lib in canberra. Of for the days I had on scholarship in Canberra to follow up that one! SatuSuro 01:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge discussion on Talk:Westfields in Australia

I@n, could you drop by on Talk:Westfields in Australia and repeat your earlier comment that the merge is a good idea but maybe the name needs a tweak? Thanks.Garrie 02:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Maru

I@n,

I have prepared an RfAr statement at User:Snottygobble/Drafts/RfAr, and advised Maru of my intention to bring it before the Arbitration Committee. If you have any comments about my statement, I'd be happy to hear them.

I feel it is proper that you be listed as an involved party. I won't insist on your inclusion, but Maru might.

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Peace and quiet

What with Margana and Marudubshinki, Wikipedia is not all that relaxing at the moment. Yesterday I wanted some peace and quiet, so I went over to Wikisource to post the title and contents page of Carolus Linnaeus the Younger's 1782 Supplementum Plantarum, thus giving me a place to post the section in which the genus Banksia was first published. Supplementum Plantarum was written entirely in Latin, so I ended up on the Latin Wikisource. The Latin Wikisource had 18 edits yesterday, 16 of which were mine. How's that for peace and quiet?! Snottygobble 02:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I discovered two websites, gallica and botanica, that have page scan images of many of the antique botany books. It was just a matter of keyboarding the text from the page scans. The hard bits were (1) figuring out what category to put it in (I ended up creating "Categoria:Botanica", which hopefully means Category:Botany); and (2) figuring out how to how to fill in the templates, e.g. "{{titulus2 | Scriptor = Carolo a Linné | OperaeTitulus = Supplementum Plantarum | OperaeWikiPagina = Supplementum Plantarum | Annus = 1782 | SubTitulus = 1362. Banksia }}". It was all good fun, and so far there hasn't been any blowback from people leaving screeds of dense Latin on my talk page demanding I justify my ridiculous edits. So far so good. Snottygobble 02:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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You wound me Snotty. :( You volunteered yourself for the RfAr thing, y'know, and it's not exactly relaxing on my end either. (Dunno about the Margana thing). --maru (talk) contribs 02:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Maru, you wound us all up :( -- I@n 02:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah well, you... blast! Curse you and your pointed puns! --maru (talk) contribs 02:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't mean to imply that you are responsible for me being stressed out, Maru. Perhaps I should have said "What with... my decision to bring an RfAr against Marudubshinki...". That would be more accurate in expressing that it is my decision to bring an action against you that has me stressed, rather than you specifically. It is a tense and unpleasant situation for both of us; much more, I accept, for you than for me. I'm sorry to be making your time on Wikipedia unpleasant, and I really regret the fact that our lots have been cast as antagonists rather than friends. But I really feel that I have to pursue a decision on this; this has been going on too long and I won't accept another non-decision fueled by a reluctance to "be the bad guy". Snottygobble 02:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I can only speak for myself when I say I get absolutely no pleasure in this at all. The only reason I came here was this. -- I@n 13:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Gawd, the only place to be is in Midland at the DLI in the old card index area obviously! Anywhere else sounds a bit too difficult  :( SatuSuro 03:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

U:I/M

May I edit your evidence page? I was thinking of merging my evidence page into yours, keeping your structure and cutting out all my waffle, then killing my page off. Yours is far better organised and miles ahead wrt diffs. Snottygobble 12:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Convoluted

Following phone discussion, am trawling Bill Bunburys version of Zuytdorp, and he claims Brouwer was Jan? Also that the north west coast was known as Eendracht.:) I think we need a long lunch! at state ref library :) SatuSuro 14:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, the question...

• I dont agree with this version of spelling the tryal here - http://www.muffley.net/pacific/dutch/ozland.htm
• geoscience has one l
• Green, Jeremy N., 1942- Australia's oldest wreck : the historical background and archaeological analysis of the wreck of the English East India Company's ship 'Trial', lost off the coast of Western Australia in 1622 Oxford : British Archaeological Reports, 1977. and is catalogued at the slwa website under tryal  :)
• Author: Australia. Army. Royal Australian Survey Corps. Title: Australia 1:50 000 topographic survey. 1957 2,. Tryal Rocks [cartographic material] Subjects: Tryal Rocks (W.A.)--Maps, Topographic. Also Titled: Tryal Rocks - is how the NLA catalogue the army guys work
• http://eied.deh.gov.au/nsd/public/search_results.cfm - and the national shipwreck database has trial :(

So you asked a question, and I dont like the average - Tryal - NLA cataloguers, Army surveyors, Geoscience: - Trial - Jeremy, DEH, Muffley - it sort of evens out :( SatuSuro 14:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Then these guys get http://www.sharkbay.org/world_heritage/page_34.htm the double ll :( SatuSuro 14:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Then we get in gutenberg 'tryals shoals' im off! http://gutenberg.net.au/ausdisc/ausdisc1-07.html  :{ SatuSuro 15:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Deville's RfA

File:Scarlettanager99.jpg

Hello, I@n, and thank you for the strong support and very nice comments on my recent RfA. The final tally was 72/1/0, and I have now been entrusted with the mop. I'll be tentative with the new buttons for a while, and certainly welcome any and all feedback on how I might be able to use them to help the project. See you at The Quiz, if nowhere else. All the best, and thanks again! — Deville (Talk) 01:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Rolls Royce

A wonder if you could take a look at the RR entry it sems to be all over the place. It getting hard to navigate I think Rolls Royce needs to be moved to Rolls Royce disambig, but this is a bit drastic for me.

Hi I@n. Thanks for looking, My interest is in early Rolls Royce motor cars. The entry is now Rolls Royce should moved to and merged with Rolls-Royce (disambiguation) at the moment it like having two disambiguation pages the first of which fails to list Rolls-Royce Limited clearly.

Laas Gaal Image

How can I give the right licensing of the image if it is protected from established and un-established users, as the image and the article are on the main page I cannot give the right information, you are an adminstrator, re-upload the image with right copyright which is The copyright holder allows their work for commercial and/or educational purposes. Furthermore, the article and image are on the main page and if you don't upload a new file it would be a dissapointment as the article on Laas Gaa'l needs an image for the readers to comprehend. I not like images myself or upload them as they are very confusing I just thought if I upload these images it may give the Somaliland articles a bit more Vibrance. Plus the images that you said are from websites that I copyrighted from are wrong because they were released into Public Domain if you check carefully. Trust me, I am not persuading to remove the Violation Template, I am just saying that if you remove the images without the re-uploading with right copyright, then the Somaliland articles would become less interesting for the world to read. Like the famous saying:

“ Images worth a 1000 words ”

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Mistake

Deliberate? Mistaken? Garden confused with Carnac? Vandal? Enough to want to go to sleep! :) SatuSuro 14:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey I make a mistake too! Obviously bed time> I cant make head or tail of the sydney edit SatuSuro 14:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Next problem is he has carnac as a convict location, I cant remember seeing refs on that, that sounds like rottnest ! SatuSuro 02:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Talking to my friend henrietta (ie looking up slwa) she says Marion Hercock's article in Early Days in 96 might have some clues ;) SatuSuro 07

09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 10:53, 27 August 2006 (UTC)