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... the third party's weapon is not a self loading rifle but his ability without force or threats to persuade both sides to avoid violence and settle their differences by peaceful means ... - The Peacekeeper's Handbook

To be unpopular with both sides at the same time is probably the best pointer to the fact that one is performing one's duties correctly and with impartiality. - The Peacekeeper's Handbook

I archive my talk page when it gets longer than is preferable. You should too!

Stop! Engage brain! Are you looking for the Macedonian Wikipedians' notice board?

Help please

Hello Francis, please help me with this article, it's not objective and it's not civil. At least pls let me know your opinion. See Turkification. Regards. --Gokhan 16:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Does Wikipedia Have Authority?

Thanks for your comment on my essay about Wikipedia's authority [1]. I responded on my user talk page [2]. - Connelly 20:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Research Survey Request

Hello, I am a member of a research group at Palo Alto Research Center (formerly known as Xerox PARC) studying how conflicts occur and resolve on Wikipedia. Due to your experience in conflict resolution on Wikipedia (e.g., as a member of the Mediation Cabal) we’re extremely interested in your insights on this topic. We have a survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=400792384029 which we are inviting a few selected Wikipedians to participate in, and we would be extremely appreciative if you would take the time to complete it. As a token of our gratitude, we would like to present you with a PARC research star upon completion. Thank you for your time.

Parc wiki researcher 00:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
PARC User Interface Research Group

The name is a non-issue. The research result will contain anonymized information. Thank you very much for your participation! Parc wiki researcher 02:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NK

No problem (about ignoring Tabib) :). I think its best though to delete his unhelpful comments altogether (just as you have done with Fadix)--you clearly see that he is poisoning the mediation process with his accusations and attacks. And by keeping reverting you on the talk page. You don't need to allow him to do it--I urge you to stick to your decision and move his comments up--right now, it's hard to find the 3 versions that we are working on, and to respond to them. They are completely buried in the midst of Tabib's diversions.--TigranTheGreat 01:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turkification

Hi Francis. Could u please take a look in this article? Sections have been removed and tags added during the past 24 hours, without logical explanation. i cannot revert again, cause i don't wanna break the rule:p --Hectorian 01:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the info and references provided in Hamshenis are more than enough for this section to stay.... Am I wrong? --Hectorian 01:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tajik

Hi. Thank you for welcoming me in. I'll try to help improving pages on Tajik language as soon as I have a little moment. I tried to find out who were the Tajik contributors, but I did not succeed. I may not be familiar enough with the interface. FOA 12:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC).[reply]

History of NK

Hi Francis. I would like to draw your attention to what’s going on with the History of Nagorno-Karabakh article. Eupator and Tigran persistently remove the reference added by me (Circular by colonel D. I. Shuttleworth of the British Command). I believe this is a deliberate attempt to suppress information that does not suit a certain POV. I don’t think it is OK by the rules to remove legitimate references, even if someone does not like them. I got blocked despite never breaking the 3RR rule, but I think the measures should be taken to prevent the references being removed from the article without any valid explanation. There will be no reason for edit wars then.

Also, the tags are being removed from the Sumgait Massacre article, despite the fact that the same Shahmuratian is used as a primary reference, and in addition to him a well-known pro-Armenian source Caroline Cox is being used too. Despite that, certain users claim that the article is neutral. I know you must be really tired of all these disputes, but would you mind to have a look at those articles? Thanks in advance. Grandmaster 06:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too bad I never saw this earlier. I fully responded to GM on the NK History page--it's pretty simple. The article already includes what the primary source document states--that an Azeri governor was appointed. What Tabib tried to add (and GM followed the lead) was to add POV interpretation that somehow this was a de-facto recognition of Azeri ownership, which is not contained in the British circular, and which is disputed by sources. Also, this is the very issue that we are trying to resolve on the NK page--and adding the whole section on the British appointment is like trying to jump the gun on the dispute.

As for Sumgait, Shahmuradyan is only used for the responses and statements of the Armenian side, and he is only one of many sources. This, again, has been extensively explained.--TigranTheGreat 08:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know, I need to stop dragging my feet...

Ok, I finally started a rough outline of what I'm going to add to Anarchism in the United States like I said I would. It's currently quite bad, but here is the link. Tell others about it. The Ungovernable Force 07:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anarchism template

From Encarta: "Another branch of individualism was found in the United States and was far less radical. The American Benjamin Tucker (1854-1939) believed that maximum individual liberty would be assured where the free market was not hindered or controlled by the State and monopolies. The affairs of society would be governed by myriad voluntary societies and cooperatives, by, as he aptly put it, “un-terrified” Jeffersonian democrats, who believed in the least government possible. Since World War II this tradition has been reborn and modified in the United States as anarcho-capitalism or libertarianism." I think I have provided enough quotes and arguments here and on Template talk:Anarchism, which has gone a bit off-topic there now. If I do not see any coherent argument from you I'm going to change the template. Intangible 17:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where are those "Many sources" you are talking about? Intangible 18:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are you still going to respond, or not? Intangible 16:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Languages

Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 15:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

The Borders

Hi, this is Andy123 from IRC. How's the work on the T-shirt going on? --Nearly Headless Nick 10:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

T-shirt? What t-shirt? I think I might want one of these! The Ungovernable Force 05:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rôle vs role

Hi Francis,

I've put an explanation of why I think "role", not "rôle", is the most appropriate spelling over on the Mixed Economy talk page. El T 13:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why have you removed the link? It's not redundant you know. --Eliade 16:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the link to function. See please if it is redirecting correct. Thanks. I mean "Multumesc" for you! --Eliade 16:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, atunci prietene fii cuminte :) --Eliade 16:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Multumesc, stii tu pentru ce. Multumesc si pentru fixarea paginii. M-am chinuit vreo 10 minute cu ea. Esti tare! --Eliade 17:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Cand vrei sa vorbim online? Spune-mi :) --Eliade 17:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Multumesc si mai vb --Eliade 18:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Official request

Can you please protect my page so that is not a tool in hand of vandalisers until I solve my issues (RfC,...) with this bounch of vandals? Multumesc! --Eliade 18:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bunch of vandals, against which you'll react violently? Quite stylish...   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't push it FunkyFLOCK--Eliade 19:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fran, all the dispute is about the {{sockpuppet}} tag put by Khoikhoi, who grounded his suspicions very well at the request for checkuser page. If a version needs to be protected, it should be the one with the tag on. Todor→Bozhinov 19:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't make any new harassments, I will use them against you...--Eliade 19:17, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hahahaha! Make some up, and use them as well. Might even be more believable.   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfC against User:TodorBozhinov

Hello! I started an RfC against User:TodorBozhinov, you should come and help me, since you were involved in the dispute http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/TodorBozhinov Cheers,--Eliade 19:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop this vandle with multiple user names and IP addresses

One, or perhaps two, people have been vandalizing the Beverly Hills High School article, and using personal insults against me and others.

Some of his usernames are: CH1; The MAN; Will Beback is a Nigger Faggot; AssMan2005; Skoda's Shlong; JAveline; and many others!

Some of these users have been disciplined or blocked indefinately, but he just keeps signing on with a new username!

Some of the IP addresses he uses are: 68.46.74.45; 69.234.96.87; 69.234.138.173; 69.234.121.172; amongst others. According to http://whois.domaintools.com;

Some of these IP address are traceable to:

United States - California - Los Angeles - Rback26c.irvnca Reverse DNS: adsl-69-234-138-173.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net

and the rest are traceable to:

United States - New Jersey - Brigantine - Comcast Cable Communications Inc Reverse DNS: c-68-46-74-45.hsd1.pa.comcast.net

A few of these IP addresses have been blacklisted, for whatever reason!

If you look at the history page of Beverly Hills High School you will see that this article is plagued with personal insults in the history page (and elseware) and vandalism. Sometimes the vandalism is a bigotted or racist remark, sometimes it is pornography. Many antivandal bots and human users have reverted these vandalisms over and over again. He has vandalized many other articles as well!

But he is clearly using dynamic IP addresses. There MUST be something wikipedia can do to block this guy indefinately!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Karmak 19:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Union

Hi Francis. Any chance that you're conversant in QIF syntax? I recently converted the Template:Infobox Union over from the old "hiddenStructure" style, but I seemed to have a small problem. Now there are several lines of white-space being produced at the top of articles using the box - but I have no idea why. Would you look at it sometime when you have a moment? (Or if that's not your forte, would you know anyone that I could ask?) Cheers. Chris --Bookandcoffee 00:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for having a look. I'll ask at the 'pump. --Bookandcoffee 16:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of persecuted Turkish writers

The article wasn't deleted, as you may or may not have heard elsewhere, so I'm canvassing opinions for what to rename it to/merge it to on its relevant talk page. All reasonable suggestions will be entertained. BigHaz 10:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonism

You'll have to be more specific about what exactly is disputed and unverified, or I'll have to revert you, whenever my budget permits.   /FunkyFly.talk_  17:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your decisions to merge the sections was not discussed. Why are you doing it?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, about that nationalism thing? Your sources?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And btw, how is removing the region of Macedonia and ethnic Macedonians, replacing them with Macedonians an improvment?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So since you "did not add it", were you blindly reverting then?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The problem that I see is that you make accusations of incivility, while your majesty is allowed to curse. A role model?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Gee whiz, I can quote you on saying "fuck" outside of your fuck the border thing. There's the blind revert, why dont you read the talk of the page? checking   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Accepted, so how about discussing changes, which you so much advocated earlier?   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So, are you going to remove the nationalists bit, or should we wait for about 24 hours and start reverting?   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, not bad. Two things, why is Bulgarian deleted from the list of languages in the beginning, and why is a stub template added at the bottom. The article is hardly a stub anymore.   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some edits on Macedonism.--ElevatedStork 19:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bulgarian_language&diff=67095412&oldid=67086402 ElevatedStork 19:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The source

Here it is Check art 3. Also, if you "inspect carefully the diff" you will find that there are four reverts in less than 24 hrs.   /FunkyFly.talk_  21:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And? It is a question of taste and consensus if it should be added, and I dont believe so. Turkish btw does not have any legal use in Bulgaria.   /FunkyFly.talk_  21:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes well, that's why the policy reminds "When in doubt, do not revert". There is nothing restricting the usage of a previous version. Even so, there might be a fresher one. The user was warned on at least four occasions though.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would not be so sure about the claim that Bulgaria has much more minorities percentagewise than Britain. In the 2001 census there are 16% minorities, versus about 14 in the UK.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How about the Scottish people? About 8% of the population? Jamaicans? Pakistani and so on...   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you should pose the same question for the Kurdish language in Turkey.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I dont care who asked you.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Since you nonetheless revealed it - good for you.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If this will stop you from pinging me indefinitely, I cant confirm or deny anything.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Embarassed is not the right term. More like, being political.   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:00, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A doubt

I wanted an advice from you as an expert admin: could an editor be legitimately blocked for excessive edit-warring even if he hasn't formally violated the 3RR? I know it would be a case of controversial block, but I wanted to know if it is judged a legitimate option, or something disapproved of by wikipedia rules and guidelines. Thanks for any advice you can give me. Ciao--Aldux 22:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hồ Chí Minh

Thank you for notifying me about that page. I am monitoring the page now, and have responded on the talk page. Again, thank you. --Ionius Mundus 23:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The vandal of the BHHS article is back and is insulting you now!

I believe User:WAterManof9176 is another sock puppet of CH1 aka The MAN, etc. He is a brand new user with three edits, and all of them are to vandalize my User page and my personal talk page, and to insult you! He put this on my user page: "Fuck you francistyers. You're no help at ALL!!! frm karmak the great homosexual drag queen extraordinaire."

He deserves to be blocked. Again, thank you so much for your help!

History of Communist Bulgaria

Did you known that Bulgaria was the most fervent and loyal communist state to the Soviet Union? All sources indicated so far that was a country that obeyed to Kremlin without any trace of dignity. It's interesting this history. I think I will search more material on this topic. --ElevatedStork 06:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That Bulgarian communist officially wanted to join Soviet Union, see here: In 1968 Todor Zhivkov unoficially requested that Bulgaira join the Soviet Union as a Soviet Republic. --ElevatedStork 09:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Francis, honestly. Am I insightful or what? Apology?   /FunkyFly.talk_  15:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently he is interested in a broader range of Balkan-related topics. I must admit I was not convinced it was Bonaparte all along though.   /FunkyFly.talk_  15:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BCF

Will add some chronology tomorrow, but it will concern mostly the KKE; it would be great if someone has information on the role of the USSR. Politis 15:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonism

Better now?   /FunkyFly.talk_  16:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Btw AKeckarov is an expert in the subject matter.   /FunkyFly.talk_  17:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Anarchism in France

Thanks! Actually just translating... There is a lot, some very good classic books have been written, and I suspect most of the info coming from there... Cheers! Tazmaniacs 00:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

You're welcome :-) - Myanw 19:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

no problem-vandalism

any time ;) Wikipediarules2221 22:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Economy of Romania

Look what's going on.   /FunkyFly.talk_  16:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be back to normal.   /FunkyFly.talk_  17:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Darth" deletion

Hope I'm not overstepping the bounds, but I copied it to his userspace (User:AZBigDog/sandbox1). I get a feeling he might turn out to be a good contributor. SB_Johnny | talk 00:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Arpaio

I noticed that you have deleted Joe Arpaio in response to my CSD for a history merge with Talk:Joe Arpaio/Temp. Its been over an hour and I noted the page hasn't reappeared. Is the history merge still in progress or has there been a whoops? -- ShinmaWa(talk) 01:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've also added this to deletion review WP:AN, in case you can't get back to this in a while. Thanks Francis :) -- ShinmaWa(talk) 03:32, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Francis! :) -- ShinmaWa(talk) 16:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A technical question

Hi, I don't know much about computers or all the tools at an admin's disposal, but an anon was recently asking if I could clear their edit history for privacy reasons for them. I know as an admin you can delete user pages and such, but I don't know if you can do this (I doubt it). Anyway, they talked about it on my talk (under the titles DHS, DHS2, DHS3 and DHS4) and on their talk page. Thanks. The Ungovernable Force 09:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:3RR

Thanks. Tchadienne 16:11, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GFDL (Re:Here)

Thanks. Isn't this cut and paste edit violation of GFDL policy? -- Vision Thing -- 17:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see logic in that. If "GFDL requires acknowledgement of all contributors" by cutting and pasting that acknowledgement is equally lost as with copying and pasting. -- Vision Thing -- 17:50, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonia

While I have not checked the edit history, this strongly resembles a continuation of the Macedonia dispute. Nineteenth and early twentieth century maps (the 1911 Britannica, for example) routinely divide Turkey-in-Europe into Macedonia, Thrace, Albania, and Epirus (and other regions while the Turks held them). None of these are the Ottoman administrative districts, which were much smaller. Septentrionalis 23:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While I regret having noticed this so late in the process, compare the editors concerned. My understanding of the state of affairs is in this edit; my source is the last, by William Miller. Septentrionalis 00:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see if Miller has anything, although he's mostly very oldfashioned diplomatic/parliamentary history. The problem with Wilkinson is that he's being correctly cited for a half-truth: Macedonia wasn't an Ottoman adminstrative unit; it was several Ottoman administrative units. Septentrionalis 00:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I just saw all this (Fran's talk, FAC talk, article talk, your talk, history template, article itself). I'm the one who copied all this from the M-(region) article. I must admit I haven't read Wilkinson, apart from the parts already included. Please, if you have the time, kindly copy some text that was left out in the article's talk, so that we include it.
Re history template, again, that was specificaly quoted by Wilkinson in the M-(region) article. Was Macedonia a constant stable well-defined "set of administrative units" as you said to Fran, or was it an arbitrary region until end 19th century, and after that it was defined to include the smaller units you have stated in the article? In any case, feel free to modify the "misleading" statement about "rarely used on maps", by enriching it with your additional info.
Finally, "Macedonia for the Macedonians" by Gladstone. To which "Macedonians" exactly does he refer to? To the regioners collectively? To the Greeks? To the contemporary ethnic ones? To the Blagoevgrad-ians? To the Aromanians? To the Albanians? Can you clarify that please?
Goin' fishin' now... I'll be back later to check... :NikoSilver: 13:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Duh! Moving that where it belongs...:NikoSilver: 15:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Goce Delchev

Why are you making blind reverts again? At least leave the ref!!   /FunkyFly.talk_  16:20, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI regarding your research - Aleksandar Stamboliyski.   /FunkyFly.talk_  16:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nice ISP you got :)   /FunkyFly.talk_  17:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh man, 512/256. I feel for you. Dont they offer optics in the UK already? The unique name is nice, but a little too revealing in my opinion. Dont think they do it in too many other countries.   /FunkyFly.talk_  17:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is this 8Mb down, 512K up now you cite optical cable, dsl, vdsl, or cable tv internet? With optics accross the pond they go up to 30mbs/5mbs but it costs a fortune. 15 Mbps/2 Mbps is decent.   /FunkyFly.talk_  17:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Old Macedonian

The term "Old Macedonian" for Old Church Slavonic is mentioned in the major English-language handbooks for OCS, such as those by Lunt, Nandris, and Schmalstieg. Since Cyril and Methodius were from Thessaloniki in Greek Macedonia over a thousand years ago, the language they spoke was an old, Macedonian Slavonic language. Please do not remove sourced material. CRCulver 19:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I should mention that this term has nothing to do with the modern Republic of Macedonia and its language, and in fact the term in English-language scholarship predates 1945. CRCulver 19:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Publically

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMboverload%2FRegExTypoFix&diff=68095766&oldid=68085088 Why? --Guinnog 00:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Typo#Dictionary.com
I understand what you are saying here but I think publically is such a minority spelling, yet (was) so common here, that it is worth getting rid of it and standardising on publicly. Like humourous, or like connexion. Thanks for the nice thing you said. --Guinnog 00:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please read

...and comment.

  • This: [3] is a text we should all carefully read and criticise before we start modifying the article. The link was provided by Politis, and I truncated some part of the address. Please read and comment. :NikoSilver: 15:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation needed

Francis, I need your help. I feel that we need some sort of mediation over the Nakhichevan article (see the talk page for further information - in particular the sections over the Karki exclave). I want to have an accurate article and I want it done right. Please help if you can. Thanks! -- Clevelander 16:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion. I added my input, tell me what you think. -- Clevelander 17:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I added one more suggestion. Tell me what you think. Your input could resolve a key dispute. -- Clevelander 17:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think I've finally got a solid resolution for the Karki situation. Any comments? -- Clevelander 17:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vlad III the Impaler to Vlad III of Wallachia

hi Francis, i asked Bogdan Giusca to move the page Vlad III the Impaler to Vlad III of Moldavia, in order to be consistent with other articles about Rulers of States, like Stephen III of Moldavia, and he told me to ask you, as he is going to a vacation. The page Vlad III of Wallachia already exists, and it says an admin has to do the move, otherwise i would have moved the page. thx Criztu 20:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About Cheese (drug)

Do we have any better sources for this, it reads like a hoax. - FrancisTyers · 20:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yep: http://www.dea.gov/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0506/mg0506.html WhisperToMe 21:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonism

Read here. Just because it is sourced, does not mean authors agree, even now we know it is a thesis.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed as well, arent you watching the talk page as well?   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Georgian quote

Francis, I do agree that the quality of the section could be improved with the rewording of some of the sentences. My problem is that I believe it is up to the editors to decide the best version, instead of automatically discarding offensive opinions--since there is no such rule in Wiki policies of NPOV. Thanks for your contributions.--TigranTheGreat 08:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greek/Turkish placenames dispute, and Mywayyy

Hi Fran, could you perhaps check out User talk:Aldux#88.218.47.184 and give us your opinion? There's apparently a need for some centralised dispute resolution process over the issue of the inclusion of Greek/Turkish foreign placenames, both in Greek geographical articles like Kalymnos and Chios, and Turkish ones like Izmir and Trabzon. As you are experienced in setting up things like that (strawpolls and all), your input would be appreciated. In addition, there's the suggestion that Mywayyy ought to be allowed back to participate in such a process. You'll see on Aldux' page that he has promised to behave, and I had previously promised I would advocate a lifting of his block to offer him a chance of return in such a case. Maybe Aldux and you could arrange for an unblocking under some suitable conditions? Thanks, Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand why the Turkish appelations (or rather Greek name that are Turkified) should be included, even as co-equivalent in the opening line, unless there are key historical reasons (in which case the name goes to the historical section). In 'real life' the only place where the Turkified names are included are on some Turkish maps and can be seen as irridentist, but not on maps like that by the Turkish Ministry of Defence. To inlude them can be interpreted as unhelpful in our objectives as wikipedia informers. I stand by the same argument for the Turkish mainland placenames that originally had quite distinct Greek placenames. By historical reasons I mean places like Alexandroupoli, Adana, Izmir... Therefor the most agreeable thing would be to edit out the alternative appelation and included, if strictly necessary, in the historical section. Just for the record, if anyone disagrees, I would be interested in their arguments, which, hopefully, will make extensive references to existing works of scholarship, map making standards and general media representation. Politis 12:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I now notice that Mywayyy, still as 88.218.47.184 (talk · contribs), has actually been continuing to make reverts at the very moment we were talking about unblocking him. I find this rather frustrating and would ask to impress it rather firmly on him that this is not going to be tolerated. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a step towards solution. i was looking forward for a discussion on this issue, but as long as it is tittled like that and it includes only greek islands and cities, i am not going to participate, nor i will consider the outcome as valid. Would u consider a rename and expansion of it? --Hectorian 14:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Deir Yassin massacre

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Deir Yassin massacre. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Deir Yassin massacre/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Deir Yassin massacre/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 13:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nakhichevan again

You may want to check out the Nakhichevan talk page again. -- Clevelander 15:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check out the Nakhichevan page today. I added a revised version of the history. Be sure to respond with your feedback. -- Clevelander 14:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Check under the "Revised again" section on the Nakhichevan talk page. -- Clevelander 15:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's a bit of concern regarding a line I added to the Nakhichevan page. It's under my most recent post, please respond. -- Clevelander 19:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Are you online right now? —Khoikhoi 17:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I needed help with Bonaparte, but another admin already took care of it. Thanks anyways. —Khoikhoi 17:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, Bonaparte has IP from Italy dude. You don't know? --200.199.121.74 17:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But he was on IRC when I logged in. :p —Khoikhoi 17:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good! :) —Khoikhoi 17:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Derrick Jensen

There has been some pov editing there recently. I haven't read anything from Jensen yet though, so I've been pretty wary of editing it since I don't know enough about what he has said and what emphasis he places on some of the various topics discussed on the page. An anon claiming to be Jensen has left two messages on the talk page (and I think it's actually him, but I could be wrong). If you have read his stuff, could you try and check the page, the recent versions of it and the talk and try to see if it's npov or not? Thanks. The Ungovernable Force 20:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The Ungovernable Force 22:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and be sure to check out my new kitchen! The Ungovernable Force 22:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disagreement at Category:Anarchism

Intangible is removing the "political movement" category, saying anarchism is only an ideology. See edit summaries and talk page. The Ungovernable Force 23:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cuba photo

I think the photo looks great; I was planning on doing it myself. I'll make sure there is no trace of me in photos--I thought in that photo I wasn't particularly clear, and unfortunately in a late-night stupor I put my photography credit in the captions. This was before I knew Wikipedia's policy (and I agree with it). There are still some out there, I think. Thank you for the message. Could you give me feedback when you have a moment on the first article I created Tompkins Square Park Police Riot. I want to make sure I don't repeat any mistakes in future planned articles Second Avenue Marble Cemetary and St. Brigid's a 103-year-old historic church that allowed protesters to organize in Tompkins Square Park during the riot, which is now being demolished to make way for condos. Much appreciated! --DavidShankBone 11:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Francis--No, I've never written anything about the Cuba experience. It's something worth considering. We stayed only with local people (in what they call "casa particulares") instead of hotels (whose money go to the government). I noted not many people disliked Castro, though that could just be a form of Stockholm Syndrome. Batista was as bloody and dictatorial as Castro, just not "Communist" nor anti-American. Castro was an idealist at the start--he brought electricity and education to the countryside; Cuba still has what many consider the finest eye doctors on the planet. But, I judge him harshly because he has ultimately created the exact same society as Batista had: an aristocracy that exists off a tourist class or Communist party connections. They just aren't landed. The US embargo plays a role in this, as well (a sign to me we have learned nothing about our hypocritical foreign policy since 9/11--why China but not Cuba? Answer: Florida). There is a lot of antipathy on the island for the people who left, generally the ones who profitted from the Batista era. Those people will not be welcomed back; that feeling is near-universal. The Mariel Boat Lift people are a different story. Some of the mansions in Havana rival anything you might see in Palm Beach. --DavidShankBone 18:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CDR

I modified the photograph and added it back into the article. Is it ok now? - FrancisTyers · 10:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Francis.--Zleitzen 13:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

We've awarded you this PARC research star in recognition for your contribution to research about conflict in Wikipedia. Thank you for your help!!! --Parc wiki researcher 21:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous users

Francis, we've had quite a lot of issues with anonymous users of the type 62.162.1__.___ (probably a class B in the Republic) 62.162.19_.___ seems to be particularly active:

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Can this range be blocked from editing unless from registered accounts? Or maybe only the affected articles be protected from anonymous edits from this range? There is also some evidence that a least part of these belong to user:Amacos and/or the indef blocked user:LBakraceski   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it because of technical limitations that the range cannot be blocked? Other considerations?   /FunkyFly.talk_  16:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The full list will probably be about twice as big, if not more. And this is just from 62.162, there are other Macedonian subnets with similar edits. Should we keep reverting them one at a time whenever they replace "Bulgarian" with "Tatar" or "Macedonian"?   /FunkyFly.talk_  21:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
C'est la vie. Thanks for the card-blance.   /FunkyFly.talk_  21:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:LBakraceski

Putting the facts together: [104] [105] [106] [107]   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Montag evidence

Thanks for the comment. My contribution to the evidence page was actually a cut and paste of my original contribution to the RfA page. I recognize of course that it wasn't in the ideal format for an evidence page, but then I have my doubts as to whether I will be able to find the time and energy to massage it into a more appropriate format.

Anyhow, I've deleted it for the time being, but if I can't find the time over the next week or two to improve upon it, I'll just have to repost it again as is. So don't be suprised if it turns up again. Gatoclass 14:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nagorno-Karabakh

In early July you full protected Nagorno-Karabakh. I am trying to help Voice of All with unprotecting pages protected for a long time, and it feels like a month is long enough. I wanted to ask if it was alright to unprotect the page as I'm not quite sure what your summary meant for the protection. Cowman109Talk 19:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then, I won't. :) Cowman109Talk 19:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Geographic names

Hi Francis. Would you mind to have a look at Syunik (Zangezur) when you come back? Tigran persistently removes Azerbaijani spelling from that article, while insisting that the Armenian transliteration should be included in Nakhichevan. I know there’s a similar dispute here: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Greek and Turkish named places), but we need to resolve a dispute with regard to Azeri and Armenian names. If it is OK to include Armenian names to Azerbaijani locations, why it is not OK to do the other way around? Your opinion would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Grandmaster 08:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Syunik-- User:Grandmaster violating the rules of WP:POINT

Francis, I was actually going to write to you about this. As one can clearly see from the history of the article, I wasn't the one who first removed the Azeri spelling--User:Clevelander did, and rightly so: Syunik has never been part of Azerbaijan, has no Azeri population, and has never been an Azeri autonomy. As clearly seen from Grandmaster's edit summaries ("Why is this different from NAR? The rules don't say that other language spelling should be provided for automomies only." [108] and "Rules don't say that Nakhichevan should have Armenian name either. Leave it alone." [109] (!) ), he is clearly trying to make a point in retaliation to the Nakhichevan page, which is unacceptable and is a gross violation of the rules. I ask for your intervetion to stop this if he decides to pursue this.--TigranTheGreat 10:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm simply adding relevant information to the article about Zangezur. The region had an Azeri majority, was under provisional administration of Azerbaijani government until it was transfered to Armenia by the Bolsheviks in 1920. The Azerbaijani name has as much relevance to this article, as the Armenian name to the article about Nakhichevan. This has nothing to do with WP:POINT, but rather is a part of larger dispute on naming issues. Grandmaster 10:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to debate the substantive merits of your arguments, which are clearly inaccurate. Trying to impose a "larger policy" on an article (under the cloak of "larger dispute") by adding something to one article, just because it appears on another article (clearly to your dissatisfaction) is the very definition of making a WP:POINT. You clearly realized this, which is why you tried to PREEMPTIVELY complain to an administrator before even discussing your changes. --TigranTheGreat 04:06, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article you might want to help with when you get back

I just created feminist anthropology. It's pretty short now, but I hope to get it up to snuff soon. You might want to contribute when you get back. And btw, have an awesome time! What are you doing there, fun, family, work, other? Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 10:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm also trying to set up a wikiproject for anthropology, since I discovered there isn't one. If you're interested, you can sign up at our entry on the list of proposed projects, and on the temporary project page. Thanks. Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 20:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FAR of anarcho-capitalism

Hi, Fran. You might want to take a peek at the FAR of anarcho-capitalism, as they are closing the vote. --AaronS 18:08, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bel.wiki

Possibly, you could reconsider your opposing the http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages#Belarusian_.28Orthography_Revision_of_1959.29_.2817_support_.2F_14_oppose.29? The possibility of automated showing of Belarusian text in diff. orthographies is, by far, a myth. There are also significant and growing differences in lexics used, pointed out in meta discussion in request, and there exists nothing conceivable to handle them. Finally, there is talk on orthography, but diffs exist in syntax and morphology scopes, too

So far a myth, but doesn't mean it couldn't be done. - FrancisTyers · 22:24, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back

Hope you had a good time! Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 22:27, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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