Talk:Woman
Have we not more to say about these interesting people than what is written in this article?
Please keep content appropriate for an encyclopedia.
I am not advocating being inappropriate. I meant my comment at face value. Maybe we should have something about the differences between the genders, etc.
I agree 'chan. Also, what is the actual spelling of 'gynecology'? I think there is a sp. difference between English and American English i.e. the English is gynaecology, like the paed/ped difference in encyclopaedia. --Wiz
- As mothers they are often abusive, beating their children far more often than fathers do, and in much more cruel ways - the main source of domestic violence are mothers, a fact which is rarely mentioned. They often try to coerce a male into supporting them in their young age, and they are very skilled in this, as it is their main purpose in life. Women are generally selfish and unconsiderate, prone to hurt and causing more suicides among males than the overall murder rate and the war crime rate combined. However, law does not protect males from women's immorality any more in the western society, but instead penalizes men for failing to detect female tricks in time.
I deleted this - if someone wants to attempt to rephrase... ;-) Martin
The above is a clear violation of our NPOV policy since it states as fact a set of very controversial statements. --mav
- "long, fast growing hair"
I don't think so. Male hair can grow equally long (seen any hippies recently?) and I'm pretty sure rates of growth are equally fast for hair of equal length. Long hair is a difference in western gender roles, because men tend to cut their hair shorter - but that's gender not sex. If you want a sex difference, male hair is on average slightly thicker - IE, each strand is of a higher width - that's why female electric shavers don't work very well on male body hair. Martin
- Agreed, and removed. I've also altered "lack of facial hair". As stated by Kelly Osborne on telly, it's a myth thatl girls don't have moustaches ;-) -- Tarquin 14:35 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)
Why are you removing section with quotes about women? DrFreud Better add more quotes
- Because it is hopelessly unscientific and adds nothing to the entry except iil-informed mysogony Tannin
On the white slave paragraph, is "white" necessary? Does this never occur with anyone else or what? Tokerboy
White slaves is the name used for prostitutes in this context - as opposed to ordinary slaves, which are mostly black kids sold in Sudan etc for as low as 15$-30$. Not all white slaves are white (a lot of Asians from Southeastern Asia are also called "white slaves" as far as I know - "white slaves" always denotes women) DrFreued
- I deleted almost all of the paragraph. I'd love to see some documentation for it. -- Zoe
Thats not nice - see freetheslaves.net for info - i have restored the paragraph.
DrFreud
WHy is everyone censoring abuse of women? It is shameful to look away!
Nobody said you can't have the article, we just said we'd like some documentation, and mav suggested you create a new article separate from this one. -- Zoe
Moving a series of quotes, all negative, from male philosophers, that were the entire section headed "women in quotes". In this context, it's highly NPOV. (They might be plausible illustrations of an article on sexism Vicki Rosenzweig 03:45 Feb 11, 2003 (UTC): "
Women in quotes
Women, and their role in society have been studied by many philosophers thruought human history, who had different views about them.
The slave has no deliberative faculty at all; the woman has, but it is without authority, and the child has, but it is immature. Clearly, then, moral virtue belongs to all of them; but the temperance of a man and of a woman, or the courage and justice of a man and of a woman, are not, as Socrates maintained, the same; the courage of a man is shown in commanding, of a woman in obeying. Aristotle
Women can form a friendship with a man very well; but to preserve it - to that end a slight physical antipathy must probably help.
F. Nietzsche
The fundamental fault of the female character is that is has no sense of justice. This is mainly due to the fact, already mentioned, that women are defective in the powers of reasoning and deliberation; but it is also traceable to the position which Nature has assigned to them as the weaker sex. They are dependent, not upon strength, but upon craft; and hence their instinctive capacity for cunning, and their ineradicable tendency to say what is not true. A. Schopenhauer
Thou goest to women? Do not forget thy whip! F. Nietzsche "
moved the (at best) illiterate sentence : "Statistics show that image of a single women in the western society corresponds to the one suffering from the histrionic personality disorder. " here. Why does this one disorder merit mention? There might legitimately be a list of disease to which women are more prone than men, or less prone than men, but why this particular one? I suppose trolls ARE capable of becoming more subtle.... -- Someone else
If a sentence is illiterate then you can edit the grammar. The gender roles are dicussed here, and a histrionic female has charateristics which correspond to western perception of a single women - so it is the reason to place it here.
Why is male clothing relevant? DrF
If you'd prefer "Women are less likely to wear jockey shorts, pants, and cuff-links", go for it. -- Someone else 04:19 Feb 11, 2003 (UTC)
Yeah, very rellevant. What is the subject of that paragraph? I think it is the gender role, not some random facts.
DrF
So, wearing jockey shorts is gender-role independent? -- Someone else 04:40 Feb 11, 2003 (UTC)