Wikipedia:Requested moves

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Requested moves is the place to request and vote on article moves that are not straightforward, or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. Normally, logged in users can do uncontroversial moves themselves using the [move] tab found at the top of every page (see Help:Moving a page for more information). However, sometimes this does not work because the target is already occupied (usually in the form of a redirect with a page history). In other situations a move may be controversial and will require discussion to reach a consensus.

Discussion to find consensus is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be implemented if there is a Wikipedia community consensus (generally 60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged.

What requested moves are not for:

Before you begin, please note that requested moves are only for moving articles, and sometimes templates. It is not the place for the following:

Unobstructed, uncontroversial moves
Moves of this nature can be accomplished by any logged-in user whose registration was more than 4 days ago. Use the [move] tab located at the top of every page. See Help:Moving a page.
Category move requests
To rename a category, list it on categories for deletion (yes, deletion).
Image move requests
To rename an image, re-upload the image with the name you want, and then change the relevant links to reflect the new name, and then list the old image on images and media for deletion.
Merge requests
To merge two articles, make a request at proposed mergers or be bold and do it yourself.
Cut and paste move fix requests
To request page histories to be merged, list them at cut and paste move repairs.

Steps for requesting a page move

In the following, replace PageName with the name of the page to be moved; NewName with your proposed name; and reason for move with some text explaining your proposal.

Step 1:  Add the request to the list on this page

a.  To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Current proposals subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.

The line should look like:
===[[Day# Month]] [[Year]]===

Using today's date as an example: ===[[25 September]] [[2024]]===

b.  To enter a request for a single page to be moved to a new name, add the following two lines at the top of the section under the date line (the second line consists of four hyphens) :

* [[PageName]] → '''[[NewName]]''' — reason for move — [[Talk:PageName]] — ~~~~
----

A handy way to do this is to write the following on an empty line:
{{subst:WP:RM|PageName|NewName|reason for move}}
which will include all the necessary formatting, including your signature. Don't forget the "subst:" at the beginning!

c.  Include the page's name in your edit summary. Save this page.
Step 2:  Add the move template to talk page

Enter the following text at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved:

{{move|NewName}}

If you think a page should be moved, but don't yet know what name it should be given, you can use {{moveoptions}} instead to indicate that there are several options to discuss.

Step 3:  Create a place for discussion

If one does not already exist, create a section on the talk page of the page you want moved for discussion. This can take any form that is reasonable for administrators to follow, but copying the following is suggested. The reason for move should be copied from the entry on the WP:RM page:


==Requested move==
PageName → NewName – {reason for move with signature} copied from the entry on the [[WP:RM]] page
===Survey===
:''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

===Discussion===
:''Add any additional comments''


If you are proposing that multiple closely related pages should all be moved for the same reason (see #Multiple page moves), it may be advisable to create this discussion on only a single talk page and provide links from the other talk pages to this centralized discussion.

Please include "move proposal" or similar in the edit summary and don't mark it as minor. Consider checking the "Watch this page" box to follow the page in your watchlist. Save the page.

What to do on the article page

If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial – for example, it is correcting spelling or capitalisation – then update the article's text to reflect the article's new title. For example, if the article were at Blah Blah, but should be at Blah blah, then if the opening sentence began "Blah Blah is a...", you would update it to "Blah blah is a...".

Current proposals

Please list new proposals at the top of today's section (September 25) in the format described above. Actual discussions should take place on the listed talk page, not here.

  • El Chino Mine → Chino Mine … Rationale: "El Chino Mine" is an outdated name. I currently work at the Chino Mine, and even some of our more senior employees have never even heard it referred to as the "El Chino Mine." Locals in Silver City and other Phelps Dodge employees simply refer to it as the "Chino Mine". (Not a registered user, just a browser) 16:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbology → Symbology in fiction ... Rationale: The discussion is largely related to how this word is used in the Da Vinci Code and other fictional contexts. There is actually a word "Symbology". Please read the changes I made to this article. Perhaps adding a discussion section at the top, above the Da Vinci Code section would help. I consider this to be a disputed or controversial article the way it is currently written. It makes it sound like there is no such academic theory/model of "symbology" which there clearly is. Also, I'd like to make changes to the definition, but I can't. -- 128.205.248.129 29 June 2006
  • Scientific mythology → Scientific folklore … Rationale: Same as for the now-renamed Tornado myths, as laid out on Talk:Tornado myths, this isn't mythology at all, far from it. It is more a series of legends and urban legends, not myths, a myth being "a cultural or religious narrative with deep symbological meaning". Furthermore, the title "Scientific mythology" implies that there exist a collection of such stories under a common category, and that it is studied by mythologists, which doesn't and it isn't. The pagename is erroneous, and as such contradicts the Wikipedia article on Mythology; and as a core topic, that won't do at all. Please share your opinion at Talk:Scientific mythology — Lemegeton 11:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

--Yongblood 03:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

12 July 2006

That's what the website calls it, so I've moved it. Gamaliel 21:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Freeway → Freeways in the United States … Rationale: Most of the article is US-specific. There are attempts to create a parent article for freeway, motorway, autobahn, autoroute. This is better created on a fresh article rather than amending an article that covers the US quite well. Therefore, a separate but related request is to split some of the article to Types of road (or alternative title) - particularly the section Nomenclature but also some paragraphs that are not US-specific in other sections (these are minimal at best). … Please share your opinion at Talk:Freeway. —–- zoney ♣ talk 13:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

11 July 2006

  • Gaelic Traditionalism → Clannada na Gadelica … Rationale: The page is basically an explanation or apologetics page for a group named Clannada na Gadelica. "Gaelic Traditionalism" is a misleading term that they made up to describe their obscure "movement" which is neither "Gaelic" nor "Traditional". It is based on what is known of pre-Christian, "Celtic" beliefs and practices. Using the group's terminology for the article name is POV- and agenda-pushing. Therefore, I recommend moving to the group's name, "Clannada na Gadelica", and redirecting the current page there. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Gaelic Traditionalism. —WilliamThweatt 22:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WilliamThweatt 22:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Concordia_University_%28Montreal%29#Proposed_move The lorax 06:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

These video game pages need to be re-titled until it/if is announced that it will be released in North America under the English title. There is no such thing as a Clash of Ninja 3 or 4 yet because there is no North American release even planned. Wikipedia is not a Crystal ball. Also, using the English title is not an excise because the correct translation would be "Great Ninja War". I would have changed it myself but the person moved the page from Gekitou Ninja Taisen to Clash of Ninja and now I can't use the move tab to move it back. Please move these pages ASAP. I'd really apriciate it.--SwordKirby537 05:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved the category proposals to CfD per guidelines. Fishhead64 18:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

10 July 2006

Eluchil404 06:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

9 July, 2006

  • Legends Football Phone-In → East Midlands Football Phone-In — Rationale: I attempted to move it but my attempt was blocked. I believe it should be moved to reflect the show's broadcasting across the East Midlands beacause there are similar programmes being broadcast elsewhere in England. User: The dominus 23:39, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

8 July 2006

  • Pilsen → Plzeň … Rationale: The vote about the move to Pilsen was based on what I contend to be a false premise, which many voters have apparently blindly accepted, namely that Pilsen is an English name. Accordingly, voters gave the rationale that "we should follow the MoS and use the English name" (as if the issue was equivalent to moving Praha to Prague). Well, no one argues with the principle that if there's a true English name then that should be used. The question that needs to be asked specifically is if Pilsen is an English name, or if so, if it's the most common. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Pilsen. Physicus 10:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

7 July 2006

- FrancisTyers · 00:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

6 July 2006

  • LinkTV → Link TV — reason for move — The President of Link TV, Kim Spencer, has asked me as an employee of Link TV, Ben Fuller, to correct the spelling of the channel. Link TV has a space between Link and TV. It is not one word and whomever created the original article erred in Link TV's spelling. Talk:LinkTV — Bcalvinf 19:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

02:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Athletics Track and field Rationale: In North American English, "athletics" means "sports" in general. "Track and field," on the other hand, is used in all dialects of English and is unambiguous. To alleviate any potential confusion, I think we should move the article to "Track and field" and put a disambig page at "Athletics." Please share your opinion at Talk:Athletics. Mwalcoff 03:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

5 July 2006

  • Syracuse → Syracuse, Italy — "Syracuse, Italy" was moved to "Syracuse" via a copy and paste, thereby making anyone who searches for "Syracuse" not go to a disambiguation page, but straight to Syracuse in Italy. It is my belief that a disambig is direly needed here because Syracuse, New York is actually larger than Syracuse, Italy, and Syracuse University will also be the desired target of many "Syracuse" searches. The opposition's argument seems to be an assertion that Syracuse, Italy is more important than it's counterpart in New York, and I would not disagree. However it is not more important or notable to a degree that it does not warrant a disambig--the differential is too small. For example, it has not reached such a differential as London, England and London, Ontario have. Also, note that for this to be done, the "Syracuse" page must be turned into a redirect towards the disambig. — Talk:Syracuse (disambiguation) — AdamBiswanger1 13:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note, the initial move was not done via cut and paste--although there was a subsequent attempt to revert the initial move with a cut and paste move. However, the initial move was done somewhat hastily based on a very limited consensus of article regulars (and in the face of an objection to such a move). I have moved the pages back to their pre-July 3 locations pending the outcome of move discussions. As it currently stands, the requested move is Syracuse, Italy → Syracuse and for the disambiguation page to be at Syracuse (disambiguation). Discussion is taking place at Talk:Syracuse older ≠ wiser 14:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

4 July 2006

  • Zael vazquez --> change to Zael Vazquez... the name is written that way, last name with a Capital V.

Rationale:

  • The new spelling complies with the new standard for cyrillic -> latin transliteraion of personal names adopted by the Bulgarian government. [2] [3]
  • It is also the one used at president's official site. [4]
  • It is more often used according to google: [5] [6] 03:26, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

12,900 hits for "Qinghai-Tibet railway" on english.peopledaily.com.cn, as opposed to 4 hits for "Qingzang railway"; the figures for chinadaily.com.cn is 290 to 0 in favour of "Qinghai-Tibet railway"

  • Greek-speaking Muslims → Greek Muslims — The current title is a pleonasm, really. While it is accurate and highlights the fact that very few of these people (and probably none in Turkey), espouse a Greek national identity, they are more often referred to as Greek Muslims, and the Greek Muslims which form part of the Muslim minority in Greece are also referred to as Greek Muslims in Greece, e.g. in this quote from Eleftherotypia [10]: Greek Muslims, Pomaks and Muslims of Turkish origin and national consciousness live in Greece after all. I think that as we have an article on Macedonian Muslims (despite the fact that many of these people, and almost all of them in Albania, espouse an Albanian or other non-ethnic Macedonian national identity), I think that this move should be performed. This move does not risk confusion with the article on the Muslim minority in Greece (which the government accepts is multiethnic [11]) - I have proposed a move on the talk page of that article as well (see Talk:Greek Muslim minority) - and if any ambiguity occurs in this inherently ambiguous area, it can resolved with a disambiguation note. Finally, a Google test seems to show that this name is more common even for the Greek-speaking Muslims in Turkey [12] [13]. — Talk: Greek-speaking Muslims. — --Tēlex 19:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3 July 2006

Rationale:correct name, Acronyms are all CAPS. Page exists as a redirect and I dont want to screw the history up.False Prophet 17:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

30 June 2006

29 June 2006

  1. Not all the games described are German - they just led the field during the 1990s.
  2. Not all the games described are board games
  3. The only thing the games have in common is that they credit the designer

It's also worth noting that at least two other wikipedias, including , use a name meaning "Designer game". … Please share your opinion at Talk:German-style board game. —Percy Snoodle 13:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    • Note to closing admin: there is a lot of participation by new and anonymous users and a separate move proposal is below the first. I suggest that the arguments be analyzed to see what is best and perhaps a tally of the "votes" (with or without new and anonymous users counted at the admin's discretion) as a small factor. I also suggest reading the article or being somewhat familiar with the subject, since this is a complex merge proposal. -- Kjkolb 06:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

19 June 2006

Old discussions

Procedure for admins

See Wikipedia:Moving guidelines for administrators.

Additional notes

Multiple page moves

For single page moves with more than one option for the destination name:

For block moves:

An example of how to request to move a block of pages:

Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:

Relevant policies and guidelines

In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:

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