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User talk:David Gerard/archive 1 (4 Jan 2004 - 21 Jul 2004)

No Nazi names, please

Please stop pushing the [[Nazi] names of the Polish cities into the English language articles. Poland was occupied by Germany, and 20% of the Poles lost their lives, just because they didn't want to be Germans and to use the German city names. The Nazi names are very offensive, similar to panting Nazi swastika on Jewish graves. I hope you will understand this. Thank you. PolishPoliticians 23:21, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Don't be ridiculous. The names that were used in English must be noted. Your equation of "German" with "Nazi" seems fundamentally racist and not to be taken seriously. Note also I hope you will stop referring to others as Nazis in talk pages or especially edit summaries, as per the Wikipedia:No personal attacks policy - David Gerard 23:24, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Journalist query

Can you please e-mail me at jason AT zerovis.com. I am a journalist and want to ask you a question about one of your Wikipedia articles.

Hi, my e-mail account isn't working, can I trouble you to contact me again, but at jasonwalsh AT yahoo.com? Sorry about this, J...

Emailed :-)

M'era Luna spammer

gung-ho - NOBODY expects the Australian Inquisition!

" Category:Goth festivals (List of links) < Category:Goth festivals

No pages link to here. "

Thank you David! Well done!

Don't you think that you are missing the purpose of the wiki project? 62.132.1.33 13:42, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Ah, I see! Its purpose was to spam the M'era Luna Festival, then? The category is a subcategory of category:goth, where it belongs; M'era Luna, article-worthy though it may be, isn't otherwise a sensible see-also on every other goth festival article nor various other goth-related articles - David Gerard 14:00, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Dead End Thinking

Dear God,

one very important purpose is to have links to related subjects. When I read an article about Romanesque architecture than I want links to a list of examples of buildings or other styles etc. I don't want to have a dead-end street (so please don't think about touching the romanesque site). Or do you mean I should erase all links to your sweetheart The Cathedral and the Bazaar because for me it is very unimportant and it is only advertisement for the book? Or I am not allowed to erase the links because you are god and you love the book? By the way: there is a life outside of wikipedia. You can’t image it, but there are people living without any computer. They meet friends and going on festivals. I invite you to see the sun, make friends in the real world and to come to the M'era Luna Festival. Cheers! your mother 16:27, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

David Gerard blocked my IP because of the discussion above (spamming and threats of vandalism in retaliation)

Quote: Your user name or IP address has been blocked by David Gerard. The reason given is this: M\'era Luna spammer again, threatening vandalism - triple block

Dear David. I haven't spammed in the meanwhile anything. That was a discussion! A discussion on your talk site with YOU! You lied in your reason. This is a personal attack.

Explain me where was the current vandalism!

Explain me where I spammed again!

Or did you block me because you don't respect other opinions? see: Censorship

The task of a good administrator is not only to make hundreds of changes a day. He should also have the ability to discuss with normal users. Apparently you don't have this ability.

I am expecting an answer and no new IP-block from you. 64.251.25.189 20:18, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I note you've carefully reworded the above since this edit. You're just spamming for the festival. Spamming gets you blocked, and threats of vandalism in retaliation get you blocked. This is standard policy.
If you really think links to the M'era Luna article from everywhere are encyclopaedic, you should wait for someone else to put them in. See Wikipedia:Auto-biography. If they're encyclopaedic, someone else will put them in; if no-one else puts them in, they're almost certainly not in fact encyclopaedic - David Gerard 20:42, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Spamming in an discussion? That's absurd!!! That was ironic! If you know what irony is! If not see here: irony Don't forget to read carefully the censorship article! That's very much too easy!

By the way: I was not rewording anything. I changed misspelled words, because I am from Germany and my English is not so good.

You assume I care. Stop spamming M'era Luna links. - David Gerard 22:14, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I won't "spam" anymore m'era luna links (or anything else). I assure that to you.
But it's also not the finest way to change the discussion and MY WORDS.
You changed the headline to a smaller size and added "spamming and threats of vandalism in retaliation". Also you change the hole topic to your lie "spammer"
([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:David_Gerard&oldid=4808780 See this version).
Wants there someone changes the information to be in a better light? Is this a special wikipedia administrator rule or the David Gerard god mode?
Congratulations to your Pyrrhic victory! You are my hero!
I won't bother you again. Cheers from New York --207.237.228.9 04:58, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Is Wikipedia a cult?

Hello David, do you think that Wikipedia should be on the list of purported cults? Please read this article Wikipedia:controversial issues. Thanks in advance Andries 14:54, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

No, simply because that's original research. Furthermore, an attempt at reductio ad absurdum is not a serious attribution of something as a cult. Third-party attributions only, with solid references, I would suggest - David Gerard 16:41, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hi. I don't think Category:Wikipedia Featured Articles should be going on article pages. It should be on the talk page for the same reason template:featured is only allowed on the talk page. Also, if you need to add a category, why not just add it to template:featured rather than each article? Angela. 19:45, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)

Raul has just pointed me to the discussion on Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates so ignore what I said. I didn't realise it had been discussed already as I was looking at Wikipedia talk:Featured articles not FAC. Angela. 20:21, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)


Need help with Jazz

Greetings. I noticed your "featured article" thingie on Jazz, so I thought I'd contact you. Don't know if you've noticed, but I've rewritten/added to/edit it extensively -- and I think some folks' noses may be out of joint about it. (I didn't like the perspective of the piece, frankly; and I thought some important stuff was missing -- and still is. IMO, it seemed awfully sparse to be a featured article.) Anyway, I've asked repeatedly for help with the links I've added, but without any response. (I'm crunching a deadline, and haven't got the time -- or the patience, frankly to read the manual -- and am hopeful that you will take a look.) The links work if accessed in the editing mode, but not from the article itself. I think they're important, so I would appreciate any help you can offer. I also did my last edits rather quickly, so would appreciate a second eye. Gotta get back to work. Thanks for whatever you can do. Peace. deeceevoice 04:26, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

move Wodonga, Australia to Wodonga (needs delete of redirect)

hi david, as a sysop, i wonder if you could delete the redirect that currently exists at Wodonga and move Wodonga, Australia to Wodonga, to preserve the history. i think it's safe not disambiguate this city, because there is only one wodonga in pretty much the whole world, and it makes sense to not disambiguate unless necessary. in any case, if there is any disambiguation at all, it should be Wodonga, Victoria (see talk:list of Sydney suburbs#naming conventions for more on this). if you could also do the deletion of the Newtown, New South Wales redirect so i can move Newtown, Australia to Newtown, New South Wales, that would also be great. thanks clarkk 07:13, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I've moved it to Wodonga, Victoria (it seems the more canonical name, even if other Wodongas are unlikely) and fixed the redirects - David Gerard 16:01, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
And the same for Newtown - David Gerard 21:51, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Trolls in music

I (of course) disagree with the removal of the paragraph "Trolls in music" in Troll. Please see my short comment in Talk:Troll. Regards, Ukuk 16:43, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

It was longer than the actual troll metal article! - David Gerard 16:52, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Ow... right, I wasn't aware of that, sorry (: Ukuk 06:30, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Why italics should be used in Eastern Orthodoxy as now written

I think you made a mistake. When one writes about a word of phrase rather than using the word or phrase to write about what it refers to, one should italicize it. Thus:

A dog is an animal that barks.

(Not italicized, since one is writing about dogs, and not about the word dog.)

Dog refers to either of two things: an animal that barks, or a kind of robot invented in AD 2024.

(Italicized, since one is writing about the word rather than about the animal.)

When refers to is used, then one is writing about the word, not about the thing! Michael Hardy 17:31, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I would actually disagree with that ... the MoS disagrees too, but I wrote the bit it disagrees with ;-) (though a while ago) In conventional Wikipedia usage, as far as I can tell article names are only italicised when it's always written in italics - David Gerard 21:00, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Here is the relevant part of the style manual

Italicize words when they are being referenced in a sentence, rather than used normally. Similarly for letters.
    • The term panning is derived from panorama, a word originally coined in 1787
      • The term panning is derived from panorama, a word originally coined in 1787
    • The letter E is the most common letter in English.

So if the article begins with

Eastern Orthodoxy comprises the religious traditions of Eastern Europe and ....

then it should not be italicized, because it's not writing about the term Eastern Orthodoxy but rather about the religious tradition that the term refers to. On the other hand, if it says

Eastern Orthodoxy is the name of ...

then it should be italicized, because it's about the term rather than about the thing that the term refers to. Michael Hardy 22:58, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hey David - I share your enthusiasm for 1.0 but adding meta category tags to articles by using the regular category function is sub-optimal (see Wikipedia:Avoid self-references for why). What we need is a real meta tagging system for this type of thing. Allowing them to exist in the best examples of Wikipedia work would encourage the creation of similar categories for WikiProjects and other Wikipedia-specific things that editors instead of readers would find useful. Keeping the two types of pages separate is a cleaner way to operate. So a couple of us have removed all Wikipedia Featured Articles category tags. --mav 09:24, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I did it after the discussion on the talk of WP:FAC ... where would have been the right place? Also, what about the metadata in the stub and VfD tags? - David Gerard 13:07, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
See the discussion on Talk:FAC for this, but basically the stub, distute and so tags on are are about the article content, not about its 'featured' status. (They're also templates--which can be easily removed by forks & mirrors). VfD is metadata but it's only there for a short while. —Lady Lysiŋe Ikiŋsile | Talk 13:10, 2004 Jul 30 (UTC)
Hmm, point - David Gerard 13:19, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Random comments

I almost left a note here yesterday because I was curious why you were opposing Kim Bruning. :-) But then I decided a nominator needs to be a little less confrontational when people oppose those they have put up for a vote. Glad to know it was a mistake, though. :-) Anyway, when I saw your vote change, I chuckled and thought I'd drop in and let you know I'd noticed. Good luck in the race for AC -- I have no idea how this whole thing is going to turn out. :-) Keep up the good work regardless, Jwrosenzweig 15:53, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

To my opponent

I wish you the best of luck in this month's Arbitration Committee election. May the best Wikipedian win! Peace Profound! --Merovingian✍Talk 10:36, Aug 1, 2004 (UTC)

Arbcom questions

A quick - OK, actually, probably a long question regarding your candidacy for the arbcom. How do you think you would have ruled/would rule in the following cases?

Thanks very much. Snowspinner 17:43, Aug 2, 2004 (UTC)

I shall try to get to these this evening. (I'm a bit busy at the moment, as can be told from my curiously-skimpycontributions list of late ...) I beg your patience :-) - David Gerard 15:47, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Answers

His first case was for personal abuse, as was his second. Note also that he got into the personal abuse after his spam links on Iridology were repeatedly removed - he was on the article for self-promotion.

I would also have banned him from editing iridology or related articles, because of the self-promotion.

First case? I think a three-month block was appropriate, though I would have attached a pile of conditions to his return to stop him doing it all over again ... as he did. I understand he plans to take up where he left off when his current three-month ban is up.

The important thing about these two cases is they show the importance of conditions for return: specifically, do it again and you're blocked for a day.

Note that MNH has behaved this way on several other internet communities and been kicked off; there was no reason to believe he wouldn't act the same here.

On the second MNH ban, since I brought the case I have strong opinions ... I'm not sure three months with no conditions on return was sufficient. Certainly a condition against personal attacks and to obey the three-revert rule would be needed.

Good behaviour is not an excuse for bad behaviour and should not be a consideration in a case. OTOH, Cantus should have been slapped down earlier.

The real problem here is how to work effectively with people even though you believe they are drooling idiots, and how not to let people get your goat. Wik went on a rampage of vandalism because Cantus didn't get blocked.

I supplied a pile of evidence for this one. His repeated vandalism and article-spamming needed to be stomped on much faster than it was, though that's an admin job rather than an AC one in my view. I think a year off editing was appropriate.

Note that he has behaved this way on several other internet communities; there was no reason to believe he wouldn't act the same here.

I didn't follow this case at the time and can't really form a solid opinion of it looking at the evidence. But alleged abuse of sysop powers may well be material for the AC, though I'd hope there was an earlier stage 'cos otherwise it'll be flooded with cases.

If he wasn't a sufficiently obvious reincarnation, he was doing his best to pretend to be one. This isn't really AC level either.

The specific ban on revert warring looks very good. The three revert rule should be enforced more often. There are a few editors who really need to understand that ten reverts in an hour is not acceptable behaviour.

Levzur appears to be a semi-official POV pusher and a persistent one, having resorted to IPs when his username was blocked. A declaration from the AC to revert on sight is one likely outcome.

The problem here is how to deal with nationalist POV pushers, particularly when they appear to be officially sanctioned. I'm not sure a trail of AC rulings is the ideal way to approach this problem.

GNU/Linux

I just redirected this to Linux then saw that you did that before and undid it immediately afterwards. Is there a reason it doesn't point there? Thanks —Kate | Talk 01:21, 2004 Aug 4 (UTC)

Er, it does point there ... I got "#REDIRECT Linux" as the content of the page just now, and it's been that way since June - David Gerard 06:58, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Er, what the hell.. ignore me. I meant Gnu/Linux, but somehow confused the history with GNU/Linux and thought you'd changed it instead of some random anon. I'll just be over here finding some clue... —Kate | Talk 07:07, 2004 Aug 4 (UTC)

South Azerbaijan protection

David, the article South Azerbaijan has been protected for almost a month now, with almost no discussion from the anonymous/new users, and they are not inactive, no, they are doing major edits on other Azerbaijan related articles. Since they don't answer to messages usually, I guess they won't be collaborative for any kind of dispute resolution. What do you suggest? Would you (or should I) unprotect, so me and User:Refdoc could try to do some NPOV-ization like what we recently did for Azerbaijanis and Azerbaijani language? roozbeh 18:12, Aug 4, 2004 (UTC)

I'll unprotect and we'll see what happens - David Gerard 19:00, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

misogyny

I am actually quite sorry about the edit summary you complained about. It was to late when I realized it could be seen this way. May I just say for myself, that user DropDeadGorgios confesses on his own page to misogyny and may not even be hurt. Still: is it appropriate to apologize or what can I do?--Fenice 20:12, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Never mind the question - of course I apologized, on the users talk page - I assume that's the right place - I have only been here for a few days.--Fenice 20:56, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
No worries :-) The very hardest thing on Wikipedia is how to work effectively with people one considers idiots, creeps or generally on crack ... I have made many a slip, but I honestly do try - David Gerard 15:55, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Concerning gender role: I don't quite understand why you reverted the link (industrialization, link to wiki-entry) and the grouping of headlines (I created a section and moved all existing sections that belong to the same topic in this one new section)? As a newbie you get the impression that creating links is very welcome. --Fenice 20:40, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I just hit 'rollback' assuming vandalism when you made a personal attack in an edit summary. Too hasty of me, sorry - David Gerard 21:12, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Naming wars

Since you were either directly or indirectly once involved into edits revolving around "proper" naming of cities like Gdansk/Danzig etc i thought you may be interested in my proposition in User:Szopen/NamingWar. I would want to create a way aimed at stopping the revert wars in future - through creating something like a msg (in see also list or header) explaining that's there is compromise and why, and by linking to the article explaining changes of the statuses of the Royal Prussia province (I would prefer it ot have it as separate article, not scatter it in plethora other articles). I would be happy to hear from you. Szopen 09:15, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Talk Page

Hello David, I've joined wikipedia recently and have got several Talk messages since them, including the one from you. I'm still learning the system and am not sure how you sen a response back. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, ARD. A new user.

Sam Spade

I have been reviewing the old discussions on the Talk:Pantheism page as part of my research into Sam Spade's inappropriate conduct on wikipedia, and have been for the most part confused by them. Could you help me make sense of these old discussions? What exactly was Sam Spade up to and did he do anything seriously wrong in your opinion? Cheers -- Spleeman 06:36, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Not IMO. We discussed the situation vigorously, but I think fruitfully - David Gerard 11:26, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Traumatic Incident Reduction

David: You volunteered to merge this article with the other related ones. I was intending to carry out the wishes of VfD, but I can't until these are merged. Can I leave this in your hands? DJ Clayworth 16:18, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'll get to this one, er, this evening (UTC) I think. Sorry about that, I've been drastically busy with Real Life of late - David Gerard 09:20, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

ArbCom election

Thanks for participating in the ArbCom elections. Nice job! Danny 00:44, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Though I also support Jwrosenzweig and Raul654, I agree with UninvitedCompany's endorsement of you and think you would be an excellent Arbitrator. You made a fine showing and I encourage you to run again at the end of the year (assuming you don't find yourself tackling other important duties in the meantime, like Official Catherder for 1.0). --Michael Snow 02:57, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Heh, what a scary prospect that last is ;-) - David Gerard 11:26, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Amir1

Hi David I noticed in the blocklog that you blocked this account because it was a "personal attack sockpuppet". Who is it a sockpuppet for? theresa knott 00:42, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The IPs following User:Roozbeh around. Look at the edit history - it's a username that seems to have been created to attack - David Gerard 21:26, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
There appear to be three different people talking to Roozbeh about alleged heavy handed tactics on the Persian wikipedia. There are a lot more than three IP's though, I'm having a hard time trying to work out which IP goes with which person. I thought you might know something I didn't. I read the situation differntly to you. Amir1 looks to me to be a username created to complain rather than to attack. theresa knott 22:15, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Hmm. In any case, it hasn't been back since that burst, reinforcing the notion it was disposable - David Gerard 22:38, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
He hasn't logged in. Check his talk page, he may not be aware that he can edit now. theresa knott 09:59, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I'll leave a note, but considering that page says he came here specifically to continue a fight on the Persian wikipedia ... - David Gerard 16:33, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Your vote needed at George_W._Bush

Please go here, ASAP and vote. Rex071404 07:11, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Voted. The fact or something like it could do with mentioning IMO, though (like everything in this article, or John Kerry) it needs solid references (partisan, non-partisan or allegedly non-partisan with decent verifiability) - David Gerard 21:22, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Blocking of User:Cantus

Do you think I'm stupid enough to violate that rule? The 3RR states "Don't revert any article more than three times in the same day.". I did not violate this rule. Unblock me now or be sanctioned. (Cantus) 200.72.105.91, 200.83.183.10

Your blatant edit warring on Template:Protected (of all places) is an obvious violation - a slight rewording doesn't make it not a 'revert'. Others appear to agree, hence the reblock for attempting to evade the ban ... twice. - David Gerard 07:12, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

ASB?

Hi Gerard, I just read this page. One question: What is ASB? Ropers 00:19, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Article series box - see Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes - David Gerard 14:00, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Greetings

Guanaco is preventing the removal of Irismeister abuse from User talk:Fabiform. I would appreciate it if you could rectify this situation. Thanks, Natryn 21:54, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I just asked him about this - mentioned it was something Irismeister had spammed to several places and had been removed as spam David Gerard 23:18, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

CGA - FAC

Sorry to trouble you, but I've (well others, too, but mainly me), well, I've done quite a few new edits on the Color Graphics Adapter article, which you reviewed as a Featured Article Candidate. You observed some style issues. Could I possibly ask you to have another look and see if your concerns still apply? Please let me know on the FAC page. Again, sorry for being pushy, but it's about to drop off the list. Last stop! ;-) Ropers 01:17, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'll try to beat it into shape today! - David Gerard 13:03, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Done. I've also stricken my objections - David Gerard 21:54, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Many thanks for your work and support! (It's of course always hard to see one's work "edited mercilessly", but, well, that's what it's about here. Ok, I admit: I have made two minor changes, for appearance and for accuracy (justified in the history.) Also, I would on balance plead to leave more of the "related info" in, because it'a very relevant (e.g. a CGA XT clone at 8 MHz (ie. non-4.77MHz) might not have worked on the telly (composite modes), as the timing would be screwed up.) But it's always a compromise, so I'm happy to accept your edits. :)
Ropers 02:18, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
PS:
However -- and this is just to tell you -- Trixter will possibly get livid over your palette changes, because he's very knowledgable, still has the gear and (if I got that right) has in some way (I dunno, colour-meter or something) made a huge effort to determine and capture the effective appearance of the colors, i.e. "what did they REALLY look like?" The results appear to be at odds with your "official spec" colors and it's of course a point of argument which ones to go for. I'm not trying to cause a stir or anything, I'm just saying. Maybe it'd be a good idea for you to drop him a really kind message or something. Again, I do hold him in extremely high regard and I just fear he ain't gonna like the palette changes...
As for myself however, I hope that I'm forgiven if I stay out of this one. :-|
Yeah, I mentioned it in the talk on the page and on his talk page. I understood him to be saying that those hex values are in fact what comes out of an MC6845. If I've misinterpreted what he said, I'm sure he'll change it ;-) - David Gerard 11:05, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
And you know what? The article has just reached FA status! :-) Ropers 06:30, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Gramophone record

"I'll be glad to help with the cleanup. Anything to get it away from this bloody awful title - David Gerard 13:05, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)" *

That would be much appreciated. Best wishes, -- Infrogmation 05:05, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I suppose I've explicitly signed up for it, haven't I ;-) - David Gerard 11:33, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Compact audio cassette

Hi,

I am curious as to why you reverted the addition of metric units to Compact audio cassette. Could you let me know the reason? Feel free to respond here. Regards. Bobblewik  (talk) 11:35, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It's specified in imperial, and the change actually deleted useful information (e.g. the link to bps) - David Gerard 16:34, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)


I don't understand.
  • As far as units are concerned, the article still contains metric equivalents of imperial specifications. I merely added a few more. Is there a difference between the metric equivalents that are there and the ones I added?
  • As far as deleting information is concerned, I only I deleted the bps link. I did that because it is a redirect. It redirects to Bits per second where the article points out that the correct abbreviation is bit/s. Since bit/s obviously means bit per second, I did not take the trouble to provide the link. But it is easy enough to do. If you want it linked, that is fine by me.
Regards Bobblewik  (talk) 21:42, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Mail

I sent you a mail. I hope I didn't get spammed out. Mintguy (T) 17:22, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The one about Tuesday? Got that. Do you mean a later one? The other address to try is fun at thingy dot apana dot org dot au - David Gerard 17:27, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
No. I was asking you something related to Analogue Disc Record. Shall I try to mail you again? Actually that's the address I used. Mintguy (T)
Can't see it. Try dgerard at gmail dot com! - David Gerard 18:20, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Invader Zim

I can see you have your own guidelines regarding writing style on Wikipedia. If so, you're probably familiar with this page. Take a look at the third item. What it tries to say is, people shouldn't move efforts on standardizing articles if there isn't a good reason for it. Invader Zim is an American cartoon and nobody can deny that, but it's not a topic specific to the United States. It's just a cartoon. It works fine for everybody. The article doesn't have to comply with a certain English style. In my opinion, pushing the writing style back to American English is pointless. I reverted it to see if people could understand that. Looks like either them or I am wrong. I'm writing this just to clarify my point. I'm not trying to argue over this. Be well. – Kaonashi 20:19, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

You reverted a change with a deliberately provocative edit summary, knowing the exact bit of the MOS that said you shouldn't, and now you're arguing the point while claiming not to? Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point - David Gerard 21:39, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Check the article again. I ain't the only one. Looks like things backfired, eh? – Kaonashi 04:10, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Slashdot article

I loved your "translation" post. I've posted a few things on Slashdot to answer specific points that came up, but I think your little parable about the "experiment" is more important than any of the details. JamesMLane 21:42, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Support

Thanks for supporting me during my admin nomination. If you see me on IRC, give me a PM or drop me a note on my LiveJournal. I'll try to do the same for the latter. Mike H 23:45, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)

TV Naming conventions.

I am assuming that you might like to express an opinion on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television). I have instigated a new poll on that page. I am hoping that this poll will properly allow all users who have an interest in the subject to express their views fairly before we come to a consensus. I have scrapped the poll that was previously in place on that page because I believe that it was part of an unfair procedure that was going against the majority view. I am appealing to all users who contribute to that page to approve my actions. I would appreciate it if you could take the time and trouble to read the page carefully and express an opinion and vote as you see fit. Mintguy (T) 16:58, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Hate group

David, this is not a joke for a change. Could you please take a look at the near edit war on hate group and talk:hate group. Thanks Andries 20:42, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Eegh. I think 64 is clearly showing as a lone obsessive, though. You realise that people like this will be a perennial affliction of pages like this, of course. I'll hold off adding anything so I can fairly act if needed - David Gerard 23:02, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
David Gerard, Thanks for your comments, I prefer the following version [1] [2], though the external links of the current version are good. Note that the checklist is unreferenced and had been changed without explanation. That is why I think the checklist should be completely removed, until there is a good reference for it. Note that Elan Vital shows up on google very quickly and quite often when searching on "hate group" i.e. hits 12, 31, 32, 34, 37, 57 (I went until there) are related to Elan Vital. [3] Andries 20:56, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
By the way I have a proposal for a downsized checklist. See talk:hate group#Checklist What do you think? Andries 23:50, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
It would still be a bit close to original research. If the term "hate group" has a meaning, there must be something referable in existence ...

Re: AMD64

Sure thing, I'll make the corrections right away

Data Management Wiki Committee

Thank you for your contribution to one, or more, articles that are now organized under Data management.

Because of your previous intrest, you are recieving an invitation to become a founding member of the Data Management Wiki Committee.

The members, of course, will form and solidify the purpose, rules, officers, etc. but my idea (to kick things off) is to establish a group of us who will take responsiblity to see that the ideas of Data management are promoted and well represented in Wikipedia articles.

If you are willing to join the committee, please go to Category_talk:Data_management and indicate your acceptance of this invitation by placing your three tilde characters in the list.

KeyStroke 01:20, 2004 Sep 25 (UTC)

Responded on cat talk. This could be a nice wikiproject - David Gerard 14:20, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Series boxes and the like

Speaking of series boxes and the like, there's a big mess of them that are getting a lot of support votes on TfD because of people who don't want to see their pet boxes disappear, or, in one case, because of someone who wholly rejects the series box policy. Since I know you have about as much love of the damned boxes as I do, I thought you might want to go cast some delete votes. :) Snowspinner 18:07, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)

Rollback on RFAr

I'd like to ask you to watch your "trigger finger", so to speak, when using the "rollback admin function. If you want to revert changes, please explain those reversions - save rollback for dealing with known vandalism. Thanks. -- Netoholic @ 14:51, 2004 Sep 27 (UTC)

My apologies - David Gerard 17:14, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Accepted, and sorry if I came off harsh. -- Netoholic @ 18:04, 2004 Sep 27 (UTC)

Paul IP Ranges

Thanks for cleaning up my mess. I guess I'm beginning to take Paul's actions personally (which he no doubt intends), I should let other people handle it for a few hours. Pakaran. 15:11, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The more proper the response, the more it pisses him off I think ;-D - David Gerard 15:15, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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