User talk:Valentinejoesmith

Welcome to the Wikipedia

I noticed you were new, and wanted to share some links I thought useful:

You can sign your name by typing 4 tildes, like this: ~~~~.

V. Joe 04:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraine/the Ukraine

Hi. Thanks for discussing the issue. You really are mistaken in a sense that Ukraine without article is a consensus on WP. If you interested, see Ukraine and Name of Ukraine: the issue is discussed there en mass. I'll insist on removing the the.

As for Internal Troops/gendarmerie in general, it is beyond my priorities (unless we're talking about particular UA troops). However, the guy who asked me to copyedit and watch that article, might be interested more. Thanks, Ukrained 18:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw you message to Ukrained. I was surprised the first time I encountered this one as well, but he's right; the use in English has shifted, and the definitive article is now omitted. The reason is probably that omitting it makes the name sound more like a "real" name of a country, and not a mere geographical region. Best regards. Valentinian ^(talk) 21:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marcel Lefebvre

Welcome to Wikipedia.

As happens for many things in real life, not everything is absolutely cut and dried with regard to "excommunicate" and "archbishop". But we can certainly continue to speak of Marcel Lefebvre as an archbishop. A priest remains a priest, even if he is excommunicated. And an archbishop remains an archbishop. It is much more doubtful whether someone who is dead may be spoken of as excommunicated, a penalty that applies to the living. Lima 04:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number of the Beast (disambiguation)

[1] --Commander Keane 22:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Internal Troops

Hi there! Thanks for volunteering to help! Actually, you can help on Internal Troops (and some other pages I hope) without your knowledge of local languages. What I have in mind is something theoretical :). You see, we lack a definition, a term, a classification there. I mean the subject (the troops) is described pretty well for now. But WHAT are those troops in military/legal terms: a gendarmerie? A military police (which I doubt)? A special kind of civil police? What about some "motorized rifle" (a term mentioned deep in the article by one of the authors)? So why don't we develop this issue? If you're OK with that, let's put our findings on the article's talkpage. Cheers, AlexPU 10:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About our first results: I read gendarmerie and became more convinced that our Internal Troops are gendarmes indeed. Going to study also military police.

One more question, Valentine. Can you draw Wiki templates, tables, infoboxes and other HTML-related stuff?AlexPU 18:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

France in the American Revolutionary War

Hello, I'm the french writer of this article [the former one, from Wiki-fr]. The "official" can be replace by the "main" trade partner. I mean UK became the de facto first trade partener.

About the "This article is inadequate, and I propose it be deleted.", I think this article have to be completly translate from french to english before to ask things like that. User:Yug 09:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, with just have to improve wikis :] Yug (talk) 18:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hey, thanks for your corrections to the St. Agnes Cathedral stub.

Hey, thanks for your corrections to my recently written Mykola Tomenko!AlexPU 19:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism of the Battle of Tsushima

I have given the "troll" (IP: 68.193.171.101) a subst:blatantvandal-n warning. Cheers, Jean-Paul 20:11, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User 69.10.123.4

I am completely unfamiliar with that user. I'm not sure what you are asking me. IrishGuy 08:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK. It was the Pocahontas article. The user was putting in unsubstatiated nonsense as if it were fact. IrishGuy 19:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedies

Hi Valentinejoesmith. Thanks for all your work tagging speedies. I wanted to let you know that "spam" is not a speedy criteria (though I wish it was). I've been deleting your speedies for other reasons, usually because it was a non-notable thing/person/whatever. Have a read at WP:CSD for more. Thanks again for tagging. Cheers! --F a ng Aili ^talk 20:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

William Alexander Percy

Hi Joe, thanks for writing. I understand your concern, though you are mistaken on a couple counts. Number one, the user name is William Armstrong Percy, not William Alexander Percy. William Armstrong Percy is a cousin of William Alexander Percy, who was a successful southern writer in the earlier part of the twentieth century. He died in 1942.

Secondly, the person actually writing to is not William Armstrong Percy. My name is Aidan; I am a writer's assistant to Dr. Percy, part of which entails work on wikipedia, particularly in regards to his family, one of the south's most prominent families in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Dr. Percy has a wikipedia account, which I often use. If it would make you more comfortable, I'm happy to edit these articles under my own account name, so as to avoid any confusion.

You should know that there is an article up about Dr. Percy, at William Armstrong Percy, III, and I agree that it is bad form to have posted it under his name. However, the work is mine; I simply forgot under whose account I was editing. I will repost it under my own account. My sincerest apologies for the confusion. I am relatively new to the wikipedia community and therefore am still working some of the kinks out. I appreciate your message. William percy 20:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Joe. Can you please be a little more clear with me? Are you suggesting that I not post the article about Dr. Percy at all, even under a different account? I didn't exactly understand your last message; it sounded like you were being a little inimical about grammar and such, but I'm assuming that I simply read it incorrectly.

Furthermore, the outing article seems perfectly legitimate. Dr. Percy has written one of the three major books on outing, and in writing that article, we not only worked from his book, but from the other two important contributions - the Signorile book and the Larry Gross book - so that the article would be balanced and offer due credit to all relevant parties. I look forward to your response. William percy 20:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

William Armstrong Percy III

My initial cursory examination doesn't indicate a hoax or vanity; I'm willing to assume good faith and say it's legit. Though I would not be opposed to an AfD and getting some other opinions. --F a ng Aili ^talk 20:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Léon Weil

I have finished with my changes to the Léon Weil article. Please expand it as you see fit, but be sure to give references. The original French article can be found at [:fr:Léon Weil]]. You may also want to change some of the categories or links. TruthbringerToronto 23:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have a barnstar!

Speedy Delete

I don't mind at all, I just think it needs to be seriously wikified. skorpion 02:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the page to Hebrew High School of New England in line with the name on their website. skorpion 02:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

okie doike. I have seriously modified article. Take a look see. Hebrew High School of New England V. Joe 03:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

improper speedy tags

Please use appropriate tags. I know that to the admins they just want to know to speedy it, but to someone creating their first article it is a horrible affront. If you were twelve and heard there was a place online where you anyone could contribute and you wrote an article on yourself, only to have it called "nonsense" just seconds after creating it, YOU WOULD CRY or at the very least never want to have anything to do with the project. We have some very young (i.e. 13 or 14) admins here so young contributors are valuable as well. We have more descriptive templates than {{d}} for a reason. If you can't be bothered to use more descriptive tags properly, than please use {{d}}, but please don't tag incorrectly, especially with {{deletebecause|nonsense.}}. That's just rude. —WAvegetarian•(talk) 04:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the strong response, but I've been personally involved with some new contributors who have been bitten to the point that they left. You are doing good and necessary work as a NP patroller. As you seem to have made this the bulk of your contributions to the wiki, I advise you to take a look at WP:CSD. Each criteria has its own abbreviated template which you can use. Most have both an extra short and a medium short, e.g. {{db-a7}} and {{db-bio}} for articles about people or clubs that don't make a claim of notability. There is also {{db-band}} for non-notable band articles. Two more that you will often have use for are {{db-a6}} or {{db-attack}} (articles created primarily to attack the subject) and {{db-a1}} (a catch all for extremely short articles that don't give any meaningful content or context). You can see the message created by each by clicking on the links. Thanks for all your work. —WAvegetarian•(talk) 04:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David Ignatius Foletta?

I don't know who this person is either. Why do you bring him up? Matthew Low^(talk) 04:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Krystal Carey Chandler

Huh? I'm not really sure what you're talking about, but in any event, happy editing. Tewfik^Talk 04:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, keep up the good work. Tewfik^Talk 04:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation

Hey, I saw you added a few cases for mediation, thats good but you did do it slightly wrong (dont worry the complete process isn't clear). On the main page you just need the links to the mediation subpage (it is just a pointer) and no information. Then you follow the link (for example for your neni case: Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-06-08_neni) and paste this into the edit window: {{subst:medcab2}} Then hit save and the template will appear - you can then fill in this template wit hthe relevant info etc. for the case. This way you will quickly get a mediator assigned to the case. Thanks Tmorton166 (Errant Emote)^talk 07:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fergal O'Hanlon

Hi, can't see a problem with your edit. I'm not sure if you thought that the sentence in question was one I inserted, it wasn't. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 07:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CSD categories and templates

Joe, you might check out Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion, particularly the section on deletion templates. Generally, they recommend that {{delete}} not be used. Try {{db|''reason''}} instead if you don't want to memorize all the templates (though memorizing them does make it a little easier. Cheers and good luck new page patrolling! --Kchase02 T 10:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply from Mr. Mod

You may think I'm new. I'm not. This is my secondary account. If I was new, I wouldn't have all those help pages on my user page. Just wanted to let you know.

Mr. Mod 22:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ALL, PLEASE POST AT THE BOTTOM V. Joe 22:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pink monkey

I found this article during Recent Changes patrol. I don't think it meets the criteria for speedy deletion, but I do think it should be nominated at WP:AFD. I didn't want to change the template without speaking to you first. (from user Gingko100)

Sorry if I forgot to sign the first time. I'll change the template. Thanks! --Ginkgo100 ^{talk · contribs} 04:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A Whole New Mind

I see you tagged this for speedy deletion. Please note that notability is not in itself a valid speedy deletion criterion. (see WP:CSD). It can only be used as a reason for speedy deletion when the article concerns a person of whom the notability is not addressed in the article. Please take the article to WP:AFD or WP:PROD instead. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete tagging of pages

Hi, I see you've tagged a lot of pages with speedy delete tags. To make the life of admins easier, can you please either give a bit more info about why the page should be deleted, rather than simply 'notability'. Notability per se is not a reason for deletion, but may bring the article into one of the categories for speedy delete. Please read WP:CSD carefully and use the appropriate reasoning from there. Also, it is helpful if you can use an edit summary with your edits to show what you have done to each page. Cheers. Kcordina ^Talk 10:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but not quite new

VJoe- thanks for the hearty welcome! However, I am not really new to Wikipedia! My contributions to Wikipedia. I just don't have a cool user home page yet. Perhapsh I should put some effort into it. (grin) DavidBailey 11:55, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Rapp

Please take a closer look at articles, before you throw a speedy delete on them. This page certainly does not meet the criteria, and might have been deleted, if it weren't on my watchlist. Ckessler 21:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's ok, I caught it. I appreciate the work you do on patrolling new pages. Ckessler 21:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hocine Haciane

Hi, I wanted to let you know that I removed the speedy deletion tag that you placed on this article because generally, olympic athletes are considered notable. I've also improved the article to reflect some of the sources that I found. Regards, Accurizer 21:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Wolfson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Wolfson

I understand you are an scientifically illiterate individual, but Prof. Wolfson is a well-known solar physicist and is an author of widely-used textbooks. Please do not insert the deletion-candidate tag based purely upon your (lack of) knowledge. -- Orz 22:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia:Civility V. Joe 22:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for help

can u help zsfzsf with his user page? email him at zfleisher@shaw.ca

Can you help me put table of contents with links? email me at zfleisher@shaw.ca

ZF: All you have to do is type topic and you've got a table of contents. Sorry, I don't do email accounts on wikipedia. Working as a New pages patroller predcludes that possibility. V. Joe 22:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you make a section for me with my user boxes?

No. I don't use user boxes, therefore I don't know how to. Might I suggest that you experiment? V. Joe 22:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. What I mean is that articles have a table of contents. Can you make all of my user boxes under a topic?

Not really, I'm not sure how to. V. Joe 22:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you find some one who could?

It would be better if you learnt how so you could do it in the future. Try the tutorial. V. Joe 22:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a tutorial for user boxes/user pages? can you send me the link?

I don't know. Wiki design is not something I focus on. Just follow the links on the welcome someone left you. If you don't have one I'll leave it. Please sign your contributions with 4 tildes like this ~~~~ V. Joe 22:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

J. W. Smith

On the speedy tag - info on Smith is currently monopolizing the economic democracy page, and I wanted to create a new home for it (as I suspect that phrase is by no means unique to Smith). It looks like Smith is some sort of cranky anti-corporate type, but his books are on Amazon, the IED is registered with the IRS, and his name popped up as giving presentations at various conferences, so he's likely going to squeak by the notability criteria. Let me move the stuff from the other article this evening, and you can remove the speedy tag at that time if you like. Once it's done it can be put up for AfD - I certainly have no strong views one way or the other. - David Oberst 22:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it looks like economic democracy may have been a redlink that User:Robbjedi tried to clean up, but only did enough research to find the Smith stuff. Most of the puffier info seemed to come in later edit by User:Roger4911, and then toned down[2] by an anon. I'll do some work on it tonight. - David Oberst 22:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jahangir Siddiqui Air

It is a private airline launched in Pakistan. It is owned one of the major financial institution in Pakistan. It could be considered a major news in aviation industry in Pakistan. Thanks for your concern and comment. Siddiqui 22:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am on a Wikibreak. Though I try to check things up once in a while. I will add more info in a week. Thanks.

Siddiqui 23:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

lorem ipsum

Dude, the template {{lorem ipsum}} is not a foreign language, it's a place-holder to mock up a page that isn't finished yet. No translate tag, please. Plus you missed the side bar that shows the cell software development article is intended to break out and expand existing material in cell microprocessor, but I'm trying not to muck with the main article until the pod-ships have landed. MaxEnt 23:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oops V. Joe 23:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I understand you are trying to create an encyclopedia. What i write is facual and serious. I appoligive if it upsets people.Tyluthan 23:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion

Regarding the article Rip This Joint, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "it is patent nonsense", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This article does not qualify for speedy deletion because patent nonsense means a jumble of words or letters that is incoherent to the point of being meaningless, like "\SOKZDHjngoaidjroqenb" or "My giraffe box eat break llama quack tyrannosaurus sticky tape". If you still want the article to be deleted, please use the WP:AFD process. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 00:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your request for Wikipedia:Mediation_cabal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-06-08_neni/Active_Discussion

That is the link to your mediation discussion, which I will be mediating. Please respond on the discussion page, and also on my talk page that you received this. Danl 01:51, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

updated

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-06-08_neni

check it out, and tell me what you think.

The Barnstar

Thanks for that. I'd always sort of wondered what these were given for, so now I know. BigHaz 02:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy tags....please slow down!

Hi, I saw you tagged Pal Shazar for speedy deletion. Could I ask you if you could be a little more careful while doing speedies? That page made it clear that the band released 2 albums...which should at least be a clue that there might be some followup needed before deletion. Thanks! Rx StrangeLove 04:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add a note....not properly tagging speedies creates more work and doesn't help out at all. I see a bunch of requests on your talk page to be more careful when tagging speedies. Please, do not place speedis tags on pages that do not qualify. Rx StrangeLove 04:58, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You tagged the Pal Shazar page for speedy deletion based on the reason "does not assert the importance or significance of its subject". The article specifically indicated significant connections to other Wikipedia articles, plus other context and content. Please rely on more objective criteria based on the actual article, rather than on your lack of awareness about a particular subject. Please also consider that unjustified tagging for deletion might, ironically, be a type of vandalism. Thanks! x 19:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Glenn Bahr

Thanks. I'm not overly happy with it right now (I agree with you on the style issue) and I've asked for some input. You know how when you look at something for a long time and you know it's just not right, but damn if you can think of a way to fix it? That's me right now. AnnieHall 05:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the quotes, though I had been lead to believe that if there were more than 4 lines being quoted the text should be indented rather than placed in quotes. AnnieHall 05:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tact

Hi. I noticed that you added some anti-spam messages to this user's page. You might want to move them to the user talk page, or he won't get the message alert. Joyous! | Talk 20:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think most of his stuff is a copyright violation, anyway. I dropped a message on his talk page asking if he had permission to post it here: so far, no response. If I don't get some sort of feedback from him soon, I can just speedy them all as blatant copyvios. I want to give him a chance, first, though. Joyous! | Talk 20:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gaza Beach Massacre

Personally I would have it deleted as unverified. Even if it did actually happened, what sort of historical perspective can you get in two days time? I was on Recent_changes_patrol. This is how I noticed the article. --E Asterion ^{u talking to me?} 20:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to NPOV it as much as possible. I also added the official response from both sides and a possible explanation in the last paragraph. Feel free to update it. Thanks, --E Asterion ^{u talking to me?} 21:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I just can't stand people using wikipedia as a soapbox, whatever side they are on. Regards, --E Asterion ^{u talking to me?} 21:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Tag

I think if you were at all familiar with the miniseries From the Earth to the Moon (HBO) you would understand why the cast list is so big and why recommending the list be merged with the article makes no sense, especially since you tagged it only 5 minutes or so after I moved it from the main article to begin with. I've removed the tag as it really makes no sense. If you want to discuss it further, I'm happy to.Michael Dorosh 21:51, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Somerled of the Isles

You are absolutely right Rex Insularum would translate as King not Lord of the Isles. In fact both titles are completely out of place-I have never come across the designation Rex Insularum-which seems to be a pure invention here-and the title Lord of the Isles-Dominus Insularum-does not appear until the fourteenth century. Somerled was known to his Gaelic speaking contemporaries as ri Innse Gall-which translates as King of the Hebrides. I've made the necessary changes on the Somerled page. In general I would say to to you-on the assumption that you have an interest in aspects of Scottish history-always seek corroboration of the information uncovered. I have come across an unbelievable amount of nonsense on these pages. Hope this helps. Rcpaterson 23:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message. The title Dominus Insularum-Lord of the Isles-was in fact assumed in 1336 by John MacDonald of Islay in a letter to Edward III, who, amongst other titles, was also known as Dominus Hibernie-Lord of Ireland. In this he was seeking confirmation of a land grant from Edward Balliol, who was trying to establish himself as King of Scotland with the help of the English. He could not style himself as 'king' because this would be a challenge to the accepted order of things. But Lord of the Isles-poetic or not-was still something fairly significant, greater than any earl or duke, and a companion of kings. Rcpaterson 00:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

message

I already knew about the 4 ~ and have skimmed most of those pages. Thanks anyway though Falco1029 05:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Low self esteem

Hello! The above AfD nomination was not correctly formatted. Have you read Template:AfD in 3 steps? This gives you the instructions for nominating an article for AfD and is usually infalliable. (aeropagitica) (talk) 07:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination

Hello, Valentinejoesmith. I redirected the article that you nominated for deletion, or redirection as it were. :-) You don't have to bring such matters to AfD, you can redirect the article yourself. You can also merge and move pages without an AfD nomination (in case you don't know). However, if the redirect, merge or move might be controversial, it is best to ask if there are any objections on the talk page first.

There was another problem with the nomination. An AfD subpage was not created. After putting the first AfD template ({{subst:afd1}} on an article and saving, you will see a red link to create an AfD subpage. You'll need to add some code and your reasoning for deletion to this page and then save it (the code is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list pages for deletion). That subpage is where the discussion takes place. The Articles for Deletion page has instructions on the whole process. Let me know if you need any assistance or if I was unclear about something. Thanks, Kjkolb 07:46, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of King George V Playing Fields (Norfolk)

I have reverted the stub you added. Rationale is that it is not a stub at all. The page is an incomplete list. As such it is part of a family of currently incomplete lists whcih will become complete over time. Since the sole information they are to contain is the list itself they cannot logically be stubs. Fiddle Faddle 09:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider using the "Show preview" button

I came accross your edits to a new of new articles, and you seem to make a large number of small edits in the space of a few minutes, frequently you back out the edit almost instantly or make a typo in the edit and then make another typo. The preview button lets you check your changes (and make sure categories and stub types exist) - before they are commited to the article history. Everyone makes mistakes, but having a large number of edits in the article history makes it confusing to review peoples changes (since a simple diff reveals nothing). Anyway. Good luck. Megapixie 10:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pal Shazar Article

"1) First of all, please post any additions to my talk page on the BOTTOM of the page. That way I can see them immediately" - Can do. Wouldn't want to inconvenience you unneccessarily, huh? Don't you hate it when people do that?
"2) You are correct, perhaps I should not have attached a speedy deletion to the article." - Yes, please be more careful.
"However, the article needs some work." - Nice little irrelevant dig.
"3) Please watch the copyright status of your pictures, etc." - That was a valid issue that was corrected, so don't worry aboout that. x 20:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Woodchipper

No problem, I don't like the sounds of "alleged" myself, even though it honestly nowadays seems to have been a media invention. If you have a better idea, that would be much welcome, though perhaps we should move to the article's talkpage since it's likely to generate other's attention as well. Any suggestions or improvements are welcome, though:) Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 21:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC) My reply Sheruji: My biggest problem with the article besides "Alleged" is just that it makes the title (and therefore) seem a little hysterical. It reminds me of a Monty Python skit, truthfully. Although the article is balanced, paradoxically, as far as POV towards the existence of the shredder, sensationalism is also a form of POV imbalance. Personally I suspect something like that existed, but it was more the sort of sadism practiced by Uday Husseisn and that it didnt exist at Abu Gharib. AG, incidentally, bothers me, because it is clearly a historical prison as well as a political one, almost like Sing-Sing. Making AG about the scandals is rather like making the article on Sing-Sing about the Sacco and Venzetti (sp) trial. Sorry to be so pedantic, but my feels on the article are rather that of a pedant in nature. Thanks V. Joe 21:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

battleships

You know, it is not absolutely essential that the title of an article appear in the first few, words, so long as it shows up in the first line or two. Nevertheless, I have modified my article on Cerberus class battleships to meet what I feel are your over-strict requirements.--Anthony.bradbury 21:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

editing

Hi there: from the number of comments on this page, it is obvious that you have a deep involvement with Wiki: that's great; so do I. I have been editing about as long as you have. Could I suggest, in all humility, that if you feel that an article needs Wikifying, such as you indicated in respect of my article on Cerberus class battleships your initial approach might be to talk on my discussion page? I recognise fully that we all have the right to edit as mercilessly as seems appropriate, but entering a criticism indicating that an article is not correctly Wikified is not quite the same as editing. I'm not trying to fight, and as my other communication says, have changed the first paragraph of the article. Talk to me.--Anthony.bradbury 21:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Hi again, see reply on your talk page. I've been a bit obessive lately, I admit, but my wiki-speed will probably slow when I get out of summer school. One last semester...V. Joe 21:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. May I wish you the best of luck with summer school; I hope all goes well for you.

My interest in ships, particularly warships, may well equal yours; just from the fact that you are in summer school I can infer that the duration of my interest must exceed yours. I am at present writing a series of articles on the ironclad warships of the Victorian era, starting with HMS Royal Sovereign. I have got as far as HMS Magdala. If you have any comments to make, I would be happy to receive them; my non-cyberspace friends do not know what a battleship is/was, never mind naming any.--Anthony.bradbury 22:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again: as I am sure you know, HM Government and the US Government were hardly on speaking terms for many years after the War of 1812, which, in my opinion, was a result of significant idiocy on the part of both Governments. My data on Erickson and Monitor dates from some time after the war, when tempers had cooled and data was available. I have no original data from the war period - my data relating to ships of the period derive from secondary sources. Sorry.--Anthony.bradbury 22:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

uh...

If you read Jewish Encyclopedia, you'll quickly learn that its copyright has expired. Thanks for your diligence tho. Cheers, Tomer ^talk 22:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Executive Order

Thanks for adding stub. I will turn some keywords in this article into interwiki links. Fred Hsu 00:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]