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Hello and Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place. --mav


Hi Egil and welcome. I appreciate your edit on photographic topics on Wikipedia. It's a good think you're here, I feel less alone. Ericd

I can only congratulate with all the work done so far - it is impressive! I cannot promise anything wrt. how much time I can use, though.

PS: Is there any way I can get my name/link added automatically when I respond to a Talk: item?


Hi Egil, welcome to Wikipedia. The signing thing is done with three tildes (~~~) for just your username (DrBob) or four (~~~~) for your username + time and date (DrBob 18:14 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)).


Hello, and a belated welcome to wikipedia. I've noticed your work on film formats--impressive stuff.  :-) Given that you're knowledgeable about film, could you please take a look at the stub I just created, perspective distortion? My experience with photography is, er, unschooled, generally.  :-) I'm sure your attention could improve it. Best, Koyaanis Qatsi

Good addition at perspective distortion. could you explain about "pillow distortion", please? I've never heard of it. Best, Koyaanis Qatsi

Hello, thanks. I've another for you, at Push printing. I wrote it based on memory of a Nat'l Geographic book I read in June, plus brief (& unpleasant) experience with it lately. Unfortunately I can't find the Nat'l Geographic book I had (only the landscape one, not the general one) and I can't find info about it on the web. Could you please check over the article? Thanks, Koyaanis Qatsi

I hear people refer to "stopping up" a photo while changing the shutter speed. Is this technically incorrect, then, since stop==f-stop==f-number? Is there a different term for it? Koyaanis Qatsi
I've only heard "stop" used in terms of f-stops, FWIW.
Hm, perhaps the people who hang out with me are as confused as I am. Not good. You seem emphatically un-confused, could you please check the article again? I've tried to correct it but now I'm going to bow out. I've waded in over my head on this one. ^_^ Koyaanis Qatsi 08:19 Jan 30, 2003 (UTC)
Please -- my opinions are just that -- opinions. Egil
Well, sure, and mine are just opinions, too, but what I'm talking about is a difference in knowledge base.  :-)
Here's what a friend sent back about the link:
"With negatives, pushing and pulling the film is a change in developement time or temperature to increase or decrease contrast. By leaving the film in the developer longer more contrast is built up when the highlights increase in silver density.
"I wonder if what they mean is a compensation of EXPOSURE when printing. The paper is exposed more or less (through aperture or time) but the development time stays the same."
So I think I must still have the description confused somewhat. Koyaanis Qatsi

Either you are the fastest typist alive or you are using a bot. If you do plan on using bots for extended periods of time please do read and follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:bots. --mav

Specifically, contact User:Brion VIBBER to get an account registered as a bot, making it possible to filter it in the RC list. --Eloquence 14:45 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

Egil, could you please slow down your rate of article submission. You are drowning out all other activity on Recent Changes! -- Anon.

No, it is not a bot. Click and paste, mostly. There are simply too many entries that require disambiguation or other intervention to make a bot practical in this contect anyway, as far as I can see. I've done about half the entries now - haven't got time for more right now, anyway - and will take the rest piecevise when I get time. Egil 15:24 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC) PS: Finished now...

What typos did I make? LittleDan


Egil: when listing pages on Votes for Deletion (or removing nonsense content), please state what the nonsense content was (or give an excerpt), instead of saying "no encyclopedic merit". Thanks. --The Cunctator


Yay! We have orders of mag articles for temperature now! One point, please only link the first occurrence of any particular order of mag article. For example, since the melting and boiling point of mercury are in the same order of magnitude, you should only provide an order of mag link for the first occurrence (in this case melting point). Oh and elements are lowercased unless the start a sentence. Great work! --mav


Why are you deleting all of the year entries before 550 BC? When (& where) was this decided? I most strongly object to this! -- llywrch 05:33 Apr 2, 2003 (UTC)

OK, I found the relevant entry at Wikipedia talk:Timeline standards. Please see my argument there. -- llywrch 06:12 Apr 2, 2003 (UTC)

From Talk:1 E52 kg: If you're intending to group these into thousands as well, as implied by the "lighter masses" link being to 1 E49 kg, then this really ought to be at 1 E51 kg, linking to 1 E48 kg. -- John Owens 06:23 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)


From User:Williamv1138: Re league. I was being funny when I put that in. The definition of league I put in was tongue-in-cheek, having been copied from the satirical novel, Bored of the Rings. Quite appropriate to remove it.


I have a bit of a pb with standardizing external link format. Whatever the form I give to it, someone sometimes behind me change it, one for a three bars format, another one with a double quote format, and a third one to triple quote format. So, I concluded there was a triple form standard depending on the editor...or that nobody knew really...or care...or there was no standard. So, if there is an official format, could you please direct me to it ? user:anthere

I agree that it is confusing (and might I add, somewhat unprofessional) with all the different formats. The Wikipedia:Manual of Style specifies ==External links==, as does the Wikipedia:Boilerplate text. Often the singular form is used when there is a single link, which to me seems logical enough. -- Egil 14:34 Apr 13, 2003 (UTC)

hum, I think using ==External links== is a bit ridiculous in a small article, with no == used at all. It gives a strong emphasis on the external links, when it is probably not what it is supposed to do. That convention doesnot sound good to me, so I guess, I will go on doing just as I feel like it :-) And others will go on correcting as they feel like it too :-) Thanks for answering. Anthere

In my own opinion it works very well also in small articles, since it separates the external links well from Wiki material, which is good IMHO. I guess it is a matter of taste, and I guess I like consistency in such matters... Egil

Egil, about the comment in Wikipedia talk:Timeline standards that I deleted:

Yes, I wrote that in haste, & am sorry I did so. That is why I deleted it. And no, it is not a threat; I have no personal contacts with any of the people I mentioned in that comment. But your pre-emptive act of moving the cutoff forward to 500 BC -- instead of 600 BC -- made me angry. In effect, you used one of my objections as an excuse to push your campaign to consolidate entries even further.


Once I realized that a brief ``get lost" comment like that did not help the larger issue -- which is that instead of looking for a compromise you acted to further your agenda, & if you did this in a later situation you could trigger an edit war & end up causing an even bigger mess -- I removed my comment. I am clearly too emotional about this to convince you that your act was a bad thing. I have asked a neutral party to evaluate this issue, & hopefully explain how in one stroke you mishandled things. (Then again, being a neutral party, *I* may be told to cool it. I know I haven't always acted correctly on Wikipedia.) -- llywrch 19:31 Apr 13, 2003 (UTC)



Egil, I don't see the need for 26 different pages for the NATO phonetic alphabet. Moreover, many of the words like Romeo, Lima and Whiskey are interesting topics of their own.

I hope you will bear this in mind. --Uncle Ed 14:06 Apr 15, 2003 (UTC)

Of course they are interesting topics on their own -- the references to the NATO alphabet are meant as "see also"s. Which I think is quite relevant, in many cases people may noe realize that some term are references to this alphabet. Egil

I refer to Rogaland article
I tried the external link to the map [1] and it does not work. It would be nice if you can fix it
I tried but … Dod1 04:48 Apr 24, 2003 (UTC)

Seems the content at the end of that link just recently has disappeared. I found another map, but I'm not sure how permanent this is. -- Egil 06:35 Apr 24, 2003 (UTC)
10x 4 the quick response (Just wanted to help fix old q broken URL)

Dod1 07:29 Apr 24, 2003 (UTC)

Please write articles before creating empty pages containing nothing but pictures. -- Zoe

Maybe not articles, but one line stubs would be nice. :) --mav

What is your email? Like a Virgin


Zoe is a professional editor and a very competent one. In the beginning I mistook this competence for an over-zealous agenda myself. And I was completely wrong and I deeply regret that. It was my fault that she was targeting my work. I was being argumentative and over-defensive when people questioned my contributions, not being accustomed with the line of questioning, only really being used to answering questions from people who shared my areas of expertise. My means of addressing criticism, which was often based on misjudgments (my fault too for contributing to very controversial articles when I was a new user), was very inappropriate. I thought that I could tell her to look at a history text, for instance, when she questioned a title to a page that I had started on New Imperialism, since she wasn't familiar with this term in reference to the aggressive nationalism and imperialism from the Franco-Prussian War to the Great War. If I had answered her questions professionally a lot of trouble would have been averted.

So even if Zoe has come to an incorrect conclusion on something that doesn't pertain to her areas of expertise (professional editors aren't all-knowing), her questions are usually the questions that a conscientious, astute non-expert would come to when an argument isn't clear and convincing enough. Thus, don't mistake her competence for spitefulness. Answer her questions deliberately, clearly, and politely and the content that you had contributed will be greatly improved (in terms of readability, clarity, and objectivity). Avoid my mistakes. 172


Egil, I think your "photo-stub" articles are fine. Don't worry if someone calls for their deletion; some people simply don't like stubs at all. -- Stephen Gilbert 14:37 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)


I tried to get a map of Sandnes's neighborhood in MapQuest and did not find this town (in Rogaland county)
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?skip=6&address=&city=Sandnes&state=&country=NO&addtohistory=&locationstds=3eb308c8-000f3-0100b-400c2552
Can you assist ? -- Dod1 00:07 May 3, 2003 (UTC)

There is obviously a bug in Mapquest there. Try this one:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?zoom=6&mapdata=RUI2hUtR8GPQz63msybbUrIG08FQTj1Q37ydl0JN7WgnMISfsAsQGuA1lpcP1WFK%2fZZkTy8MqlhWS2%2fPRzwio7nmweH4Y%2bppZjTzMJY2CspK16LgHI10a2ktqQbvVjGZ%2f%2bdYKLXBqHfB8ho05Z8%2bWd1UqW5RpZ6%2f2WfutulgVsOSJtuMWbOIgI2xyZQY5kW2DsqXBK%2bN%2b8UrZJI7iOvmBDAwuILrPZ6I8Ugukip9d6PH05%2fk4M4MgwgKeFAp9ixQ

Mapquest does not seem to have much detail available. A street map would be available at:

http://www.gulesider.no/gsi/map.do?n=&mode=&size=1&cb=cz&c=s&cm=&v=&msa=m0&x=5.7173967&y=58.85849&id=a_5.717397_58.85849_Sandnes&startId=&finishId=&spraak=1&oldZoom=4&big.x=35&big.y=4

-- Egil 05:34 May 3, 2003 (UTC)
Is it OK with you, that I'll insert these maps into Sandnes article ? (After all you found'em) -- Dod1 06:31 May 3, 2003 (UTC)
As long as they are links under "External links" (we would not have permission to anything else), then go right ahead.... Egil
Thanks. I added only one map to Sandnes. The MapQuest caused some paragraph disorder, so I decided to give up.
Thanks again for your assistance. -- Dod1 22:14 May 3, 2003 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for sorting out those names on U.S. list of most wanted Iraqis this morning, and making all those redirects. I thought about trying to sort out what the names should be myself, but it seemed too daunting! Names in Arabic-speaking countries seem to be transliterated in so many different ways that I never know what to do with them... -- Oliver P. 22:08 May 3, 2003 (UTC)

Are you purposely following me around and changing things I have contributed just for the sake of changing them because I contributed them? -- Zoe

No, I am not. I recall changing some articles from Recent changes where you added images. Images are a valuable contribution. These images just needed a slight adjustment of adding a missing margin/padding. This is particularily a problem on left adjusted images, but even on right adjusted images in many cases. Also, the captions were not in accordance to the style sheet. In addition to the inconsistent/unprofessional look from a typographical POV, the combination small, bold and italics meant that readable suffered. Since I discovered that problem persisted for many images that were submitted by one particular user, are you suggesting I should refrain from doing something about these issues due to fear it might hurt his/her feelings? -- Egil 04:37 May 5, 2003 (UTC)
No, but I am suggesting you might want to give me an explanation as to why you're changing my contributions. -- Zoe
Sorry, but I have no other explanation than that I try to be bold in updating pages. If someone claim ownership of these pages and feel insulted, I can only apologize. -- Egil 09:36 May 5, 2003 (UTC)

Call me a racist again and there will be some serious trouble. This is not acceptable behavior here, or in any other public forum. You are grossly mistaken. Apologise and retract, and I will take the matter no further. Tannin 13:59 May 5, 2003 (UTC)

I cannot see I have anything to apologise and retract. My view is that thoughts you expressed in Talk:Women's suffrage had clear elements of racism, as I define the word (and which I believe is close to the internationally accepted norm), and that has been the extent of my remark. Your outright treats will certainly not change my stand on these human right issues. My only regrets in this matter would be that I seem not to have been able to formulate myself in a manner that could nourish contemplation. -- Egil 16:01 May 5, 2003 (UTC)

Then you should read more carefully. Your edit summary of an hour or two ago was entirely unacceptable. I have no wish to make an enemy of you, Egil, but I will not tolerate having my views so grossly misrepreseted, by you, or by anyone else. The above is another example. You should learn to distinguish between people who report on historical attitudes on the one hand, and people who hold those attitudes on the other - it really isn't terribly difficult. Next time you write in an article or on a talk page that, for example, Hitler thought Jews were subhuman (which he undoubtedly did), shall I then seize on this as evidence that you yourself are anti-Semetic? That's what you just did to me, and I will not accept that slander. Tannin


Hi, is an orphan. could you find some articles to point to it? :) Kingturtle 06:07 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

You just did.
It's an orphan, meant to be ready to receive any links that may occur in the future. If you feel like deleting it, and that gives you a kick, I don't care (any longer). Someone may have to find out about and redo the disambiguation at some stage, but it sure won't be me. -- Egil 20:05 May 15, 2003 (UTC)

hi there! just got a question about the Image:Cable Ferry.jpg , theres a big discussion about copyrights on the german wikipedia, i want to know if the picture is really FREE for use (GNU-FDL) and who's the contributor.. since you've been uploading it i adress this to you. (I'm currently working on de:Fähre thanks! -- pit 15:07 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

The image was taken by me personally, and is FREE. -- Egil 05:05 5 Jun 2003 (UTC)
thank you! i'll use it then.. -- pit 09:11 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Left a note at Talk:Alta, you may want to look.. -- hike395 05:16 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Hi, at Talk:Push printing you say that push developing causes more grain in the film, yet from the examples I have at push printing, which were push printed (not push developed), there is much more apparent grain in the pushed version. I'm wondering if you misspoke or if, as usual, I'm misunderstanding something. Perhaps there's another explanation for it? Koyaanis Qatsi 16:57 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Hi Egil

I am looking for a program to load a mass of articles (batch load) to Wiki.
I try to add new articles to the newly born Hebrew Wikipedia. Can U pl. give me some directions? -- Dod1 08:28 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)


If you're around again soon, please see Talk:Orders of magnitude. -- John Owens 18:45, 2003 Oct 25 (UTC)

These days, it seems I only get time for an occasional visit. Which subject were you thinking of? (PS: I can be reached by email: egil at kvaleberg.no) -- Egil 13:31, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC)


Hi, I added your name to Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Norway; hope it's OK. If not, I guess you're capable of fixing it :-)
Wernher 00:17, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)


I see that you've taken the initiative to move the bicycle repair pages to wikibooks. If the original wikipedia pages are going to be deleted, can you copy and paste the "page history" information onto the talk page of the relevent wikibook page. This way information about who is the original author of the pages is preserved. Thanks, and good work. Maximus Rex 22:31, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I do not really see any reason why they should be deleted - I've copied the info non-the-less (just text, without links, better than nothing). -- Egil

Numbers Project

I'd like to ask you to sign on to the project Wikipedia:WikiProject_Numbers. I recognize your great work on the numbers 1 - 20 and the great precedent you set with these fascinating articles. PrimeFan 19:07, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)

SAR

Just a note that you are linking to SAR on your sandbox page. The link you want is to Saudi riyal. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 21:01, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)


Hi Egil can you have a look to Talk:Distortion caused by the camera lens. Thanks. Ericd 19:22, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Centuries and Millennia

Just FYI (since I saw that you created most of the redirects I just corrected), the 1st century BC was from 100 BC through 1 BC (there was no year 0 BC). Similarly, the 1st millennium was from 1000 BC through 1 BC. So 100 BC is the first year of the 1st century BC (not the last year of the 2nd century BC), 200 BC is the first year of the 2nd century BC, etc. I fixed all the redirects for those years to point to the appropriate century/millenium. I'm going to go make a note of this on Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) since this is a common mistake. Cheers! --Wclark 03:16, 2004 Jul 21 (UTC)

FYI

You have a link to barrel on User:Egil\Sandbox and it should probably point to barrel (unit). Barrel is a disambiguation page that I just finished disambiguating. But I don't mess with user pages. Just thought you might like to know. Kevin Rector 19:35, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)