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Bolivarian Circles?

Hi Stevertigo, my name's Dan, and I'm an adult education ESL teacher and a grad student at San Francisco State University. I'm writing a paper on Bolivarian Circles, and I'm curious to know how you found out about them, and what resources there are in English about them. -Danspalding 07:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your 8th archive

Stevertigo, it looks like someone moved your 8th archive to a nasty name, after which it got speedy deleted. I'm going to fix that now, if you don't mind. Jayjg (talk) 16:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it looks like it happened almost exactly a year ago. All fixed now. Jayjg (talk) 16:40, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Article renaming

Steve, why did you move the article about the extra-judicial prisoners being held by the CIA? Everyone realizes the name (as it was) is horrible: I first heard of this article when I voted on Afd (I said delete, mostly because of the name.) There is, at the top of the talk page, a discussion with a numbered list of article names. Discussion is mostly in the ruling out phase. You didn't even pick a name off the list, and there were nine to choose from! Why oh why did you ignore consensus and do such a hasty thing? There are already names in discussion and you randomly make another one up and instead of adding it to the list as suggestion 10 you ignore everyone else and just move it? Why? KillerChihuahua 21:24, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Assad

The reason why I created the article as Muhammad Assad (terror suspect) instead of as plain old Muhammad Assad was that when I was writing the first draft, and I did a google search on his name, I got a lot of false positives. It must be a popular name. I didn't think that this fellow should get the primary name, without modifiers just because he was first to get an article.

If you consider the "(terror suspect)" suffix to be POV perhaps you could explain why. Saying a guy is a terror suspect is not the same as saying he is a terrorist. Do you have an alternate appelation you consider NPOV?

I'll agree, in general, that some names chosen in the War on Terror, suck. Insurgent is one that bugs me. It bugged me even more, when the CPA was in charge, as it implied that Bremer's administration was legitimate, even though it had no popular mandate, and couldn't supply law and order, or basic services. But I don't understand why you object to detainee. -- Geo Swan 01:04, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


I fully support your RFAR against TDC[, and have taken the liberty of reformatting your comments there to be more appropriate and readable, as well as adding a comment of my own. Regards, -St|eve 01:32, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help! Your help with the RFAR[1] was unexpected, since I was only asking about the deletes.[2] I uncovered the two requests for comment today[3] [4], I guess this is before you had the privelege of meeting TDC, because your comments are missing.
I look forward to your opinion on the deletions. Depite their incredibly high number, it appears the deletions are okay.[5]Travb 02:04, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Response continues once again on my talk page Travb 02:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any more to these pages than Original Research? I'm glad that a page on biblespeak (I've heard it called "Christianese") exists, but it really doesn't capture what I consider to be the essence of the practice (one with which I am very familiar). The page on Metaphorical language acts like it's describing a legitimate linguistic concept, but it's one which I can't find references to anywhere else (I am not a linguist). Staecker 19:38, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! There's a page called Christianese! I hope you won't mind if I make Biblespeak a redirect.
I still think something should be done about Metaphorical language. Maybe a delete? It's essentially orphaned without Biblespeak. Staecker 19:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mia Farrow

If you're interested, the information on the Mia Farrow/Woody Allen dispute could be enhanced on the Woody Allen page. -155.91.28.231 21:17, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

When you get back

There is an article which could very much use your attention - it needs an experienced editor who is efficient and can be ruthless, and I lack the time and fortitude. It is currently Media and ethnicity, IMHO it would be more accurate to move it to Ethnic stereotypes in American media. Inherently strongly biased throughout, largely unwikified, bad style, overlength, highly POV, a good deal of original research... its a mess. I saw the pleas on the talk page for experienced editors to help, and thought of you, because you seem to have the attributes which are needed in ample amounts. KillerChihuahua 04:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration

Hey, I see that your arbcom case is being closed with the decision to de-admin you. While I currently agree with the remedy, as I said on the RFA, I'd like to be able to support you eventually, and I feel that you will be admin material again. So, let me know next time you're on RFA, please. :) --Phroziac(talk) 03:36, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TDC

Just a heads up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Travb/Archive_1#I_suppose_its_time_to_directly_engage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TDC#My_talk_page

Merge from State sponsored terrorism

Please see talk:State terrorism#Merge from State sponsored terrorism Philip Baird Shearer 09:23, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Final decision

The arbitration committee has reached a final decision in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Stevertigo case. Raul654 19:41, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration accepted

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Winter Soldier has been accepted. Please place evidence at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Winter Soldier/Evidence. You may make proposals and comments at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Winter Soldier/Workshop. Fred Bauder 20:48, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Case assigned for MentCom

You've been assigned. Now show up in #wikipedia-probation. Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 01:17, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Need your comments

As you know, currently there is arbitration, request for evidence pending on User:TDC. [6]

I welcome and encourage your comments on the arbitration page.Travb 23:08, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed a couple of formatting guidelines that you seem to have added: "Don't indent text" and "Use moderate to large blocks of text (i.e. not single sentence paragraphs)." Just a heads-up. Melchoir 19:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied. Melchoir 20:21, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for Audio converter

Hello, good work on Audio converter, and thanks for the contribution. However, you did not provide any references or sources in the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. From what websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to Audio converter? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? You can simply add links, or see WP:CITET if you wish to review some of the different citation methods. Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 12:41, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Citations? That's all just basic stuff that anybody who's dealt in recording knows. Thanks for the kudos though. I should make a graph too illustrate the wave curve. -St|eve 20:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, while I apprecite that it may be general knowledge to specialists, part of the point of citing sources is to make it possible to check sneaky vandals inserting false information. It would be helpful if you could dig something up so that someone can verify this stuff. If not, don't lose sleep over it though! Cheers, Lupin|talk|popups 20:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. "Matrix" is a disambig page - should this template point to a more specific topic, or is the disambig link intentional? Cheers! BDAbramson T 20:50, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ethno-stub

I see that on June 9th of this year, you've edited {{ethno-stub}} [7]. To be more precise, you changed the category from Category:Ethnicity stubs to Category:Ethnic group stubs. Could you explain this edit at the SFD? Aecis praatpaal 10:01, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

World Citizen userbox, {{User world}}

Hi, I noticed the message saying you're a World Citizen, I would like to invite you to add {{User world}} to your user page if you wish to proclaim it in a more effective way, and this template will also add you automatically to the Wikipedians with World Citizenship category. :) --Mistress Selina Kyle 00:08, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Go

Hi, I noticed to you that I copyied the image of Ko you had posted on this wiki. Now this is on the commons. fr:User:jonathaneo

RFA questions

Steve, if you decide to keep your RFA going, I would strongly recommend that you answer the questions at the bottom. A number of users are voting neutral or oppose because of your lack of response. You may also wish to consider withdrawing your nomination at this time, as you would need around 75 more supporters with no more opposition (assuming no one changes his vote) to be successful. — Knowledge Seeker 18:34, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Shortcuts

Hey, thanks for the awesome sorting job. I'm working on it more, but you got a big ball rolling. Thanks and good work! Blackcap (talk) 21:09, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Latest User:Lightbringer sockpuppet

See User:KJVTRUTH's contribution history. You labeled his other socks on his talk page, so I thought I'd alert you directly. DreamGuy 22:51, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Rollcall

Hello, I'm just checking to make sure you're active. I'm checking with all the mediators listed as active to make sure they are truly active and ready to take a case. Reply at my talk page ASAP :) Redwolf24 (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet of User:Lightbringer

Hello. You have had dealings with User:Lightbringer and his socks previously, so I figured you might be the right person to tell - seems he is back, with a new sock: User:24.68.242.147. I took the liberty to label him as a sock, and to place two warning messages on his talkpage (I got a feeling there will be more soon...) - if I've overstepped what a regular editor is allowed I just have appologise. WegianWarrior 11:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

missing Wikipedia:Manual of Style (abbreviations)

Somehow, and I'm sure it was an accident, the entire article that you reference as {{main}} is blank? (I'll watch here for your answer.)

--William Allen Simpson 19:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Untagged images

Hi, I am cleaning up some untagged images. See Wikipedia:Untagged images. Could you tag these two pictures you uploaded, Image:TieredDR.png and Image:TieredDR.svg, with the appriate tag? Tnx. Garion1000 (talk) 19:03, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Take This Case

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation&action=purge#phpBB_entry_dispute

Could you please take a look at Talk:phpBB and comment regarding the link to phpBBhacks.com? (There is a new discussion section towards the bottom started by Pti. —Locke Coletc 23:17, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Names for the Eucharist

Hi. I saw your edit to the intro of Eucharist. Be aware that there is already a section of the article dealing with all the names of this rite. I don't have a problem with your edit, but someone else might. If you get reverted, you might want to read the talk page before trying again. The issue of names for this rite has been controversial in the past. --Srleffler 03:14, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rule

I noticed your edit to Rule. You might want to take a look at the Manual of Style. The disambiguating links should not be bold, and typically nothing else should be linked, besides the words being disambiguated. A previous editor had applied this standard, and you reverted him. (His edit was probably too sparse, but had the right style.)--Srleffler 05:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I was going through some old images and came across this one. It doesn't have a license or a very clear source, so could you either add that info or delete the image? Thanks! -SCEhardT 01:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bolivia Gas 1.jpg listed for deletion

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-SCEhardT 06:30, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the {{cleanup}} template, for the reasons given originally. I agree that it's a pity that the article needs it, but it does. It seems to have been taken over by a small number of PoV-pushers whose understanding of the subject is minimal, but whose determination to have their own way is deep. I just don't have the time or the energy for that kind of fight at the moment, but when I do, I'll try to do some of the required work myself, and recruit other knowledgeable Wikipedians to join in. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Goko1.jpg listed for deletion

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Nv8200p talk 00:12, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look on Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion to find reason for deletion -Nv8200p talk 18:57, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The reason is listed right after the name. The letters OR mean that the image is an orphan (not attached to any articles). There is a list of of these abbreviations at the top of the page for future reference -Nv8200p talk 19:05, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation at phpBB

Do you plan on mediating the problems at the phpBB article? It is seriously in need of it. Things are "out of hand". 131.30.121.23 19:58, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this template was used as part of a dispute resolution. However it now appears to me to not be used at all except in the talk archive and the Main concept is a red link. Since you are the only contributer would you consider deleting it? --Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 22:52, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorism (disambiguation)

You created a page called Terrorism (disambiguation). Many users have since contributed to it. The page now delineates six distinct meanings of the word and links to thirty-three terrorism related articles (when the page isn't blanked by User:JW1805). The discussion page lists the five distinct meanings that the Oxford English Dictionary gives for terrorism. JW1805 regularly blanks the Terrorism (disambiguation) page and any discussion that doesn't serve his personal POV. Now he wants to delete the entire article, pretend that the world uses only one definition of "terrorism," and wipe all information to the contrary from Wikipedia.

I think that the world has more than one distinct definition of terrorism. For instance, I'm sure you've heard people refer to President Bush as a terrorist because they believe that he tries to awaken or spread a feeling of terror or alarm. These people are using the term in a dyslogistic sense[8]. There is no overlap between the dyslogistic definition and one involving violent ex-patriots. I think that these are two examples of completely different meanings for the same word. What do you think? --Hypnodude 15:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi; I have blocked Hypnodude (talk · contribs) as a sockpuppet of banned user Zephram Stark (talk · contribs). Tom Harrison Talk 16:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    • It's about good and god damn time someone banned these assholes. Fuckin terrorist sympathizers want to have some "literal" meaning of terrorism, like anyone in this great nation can talk about terrorism without remembering how we were attacked for no reason except that they hate freedom. Terrorism will always mean evil violence against innocent civilians. It is now illegal to say anything that helps terrorists, and that is exactly what these assholes are doing by saying that other people were terrified and threatened by the U.S. of A. Those civilians weren't innocent and our violence against them wasn't evil. Anyone who loves this country better stand behind what the president says is terrorism and if you don't, get the fuck out! --Tipps (the Man) 17:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NIH pregnancy images

Image:Pregnancy.gif is currently being considered for Feature Picture status. As the image is based on Image:Month_1_sm.jpg to Image:Month_9_sm.jpg, which you originally uploaded with a {{PD-USGov-NIH}} tag, I'd like to ask you if you could point me to the original source of the images. I was unable to locate these images on the NIH web site via Google, and since the image description pages contain no source information, I have not been able to provide confirmation that these images were in fact created by a NIH employee (see comments on the nomination page). Thanks in advance, and thanks for uploading the images in the first place. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 12:08, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I also had a question about these images. I haven't been able to find them, but they look very similar to the A.D.A.M. medical illustrations (www.adam.com) which the NIH have bought for their websites and are not in the public domain. It would be helpful if you could clarify the issue one way or the other.--nixie 02:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Holy cow!

I can't believe I'm actually talking with the guy who invented the Wikipede! You are like a legend! I heard you're a hundred feet tall! Well not really, I just said that to make you sound like some sort of mythical heroic figure. Seriously though, you have made some great contributions to Wikipedia.

My verdict? Wikipede rules, Wiki-ant or whatever that thing's name is drools. Go Wikipede! NIRVANA2764 03:39, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hello, I get to know that you are one of the Wikimedia Embassy in chinese wikipedia. I am not sure that if you are stilling responsible for communication with chinese wikipedians. Please leave message at:Yongxinge --Yongxinge 07:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

page move

What's with the moving of your user page? - UtherSRG (talk) 11:42, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Request for mediation

Hi Steve, could you please mediate a disagreement that has been going on concerning some wording on the Metrication article? Thanks, arfon 10:01, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you fill me in on what's going on with this case? I see only one of the parties signing on to the mediation, but also have a note that it was all but ready to go. I don't see much on the RfM page to suggest one way or the other. Essjay TalkContact 01:54, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, anyone there? (Image deletion warning)

You haven't made any response to my query about the NIH pregnancy images (Month_1_sm.jpg to Month_9_sm.jpg, plus the derivative Pregnancy.gif) above. Those images currently lack essential source information, which means their copyright status cannot be verified. By Wikipedia and Commons policy they should've been speedily deleted weeks ago. I've put up a request on the image description pages asking that they not be deleted until I get some response from either you or the NIH themselves, but so far I've heard from neither. I can't in good conscience leave that notice there forever. As you have no e-mail address configured for your account, this appears to be the only way I can contact you. I can see you're actively editing, so please make some response to this. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 09:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didnt note any tag - appreciate the note. I uploaded them assuming they were NIH licensed, before I noticed that NIH images may be proprietary. IIRC, I uploaded these to the commons so any local versions should be deleted, and any copyright issues dealt with at commons. Someone also edited a couple images to reformat them. Definitely something to look at. -Ste|vertigo 18:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC) (Copied from User talk:Ilmari Karonen#NIH Pregnancy.)[reply]
Thanks, but where did you find them? I've tried to Google for the file names, but all I find are Wikipedia mirrors. If I knew what page they were originally on, I might have more luck finding someone who knows who made them. There shouldn't be any local versions, but the Commons policy on image sourcing is essentially the same as the local one. The images are pretty widely used, so I'd hate to see them go if there's any chance they're in fact PD. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 19:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feeding the multitude

Take a look here. If readers of the miracle page can't cope with the hatnote (or feel obliged to remove it rather than fix a poorly formatted one), then we'll have to go for a disambiguation page - a shame, as the miracle is by far the default use. I think the problem has been unwittingly exacerbated by the redirecting of "Feeding of the 5000" to Feeding the multitude. If you're a contributor here (I'm just a passing editor with no real life interest in either page), would you like to look at all these pages and co-ordinate some mutually acceptable arrangement? JackyR 12:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]