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February 17

  • There's a lot of junk in User:Silsor/weirdmedia that needs to be deleted - I already deleted some obvious ones, like an Outlook Express executable. silsor 06:53, Feb 17, 2004 (UTC)

April 4

  • Image:Vivisection.jpg - delete or "move". Bad file name. This is not a vivisection but a postmortem. Nanshu 00:26, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • See the image description page. Nanshu says it's one thing and Waliwali says it's another. Want to back this up with sources? --Jiang 03:19, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • it's actually unit 100 based in Changquan performing vivisection, capital of Manchukuo. Source: 1). Japanese Atrocities in China, 1928-1945, call number DS777.533.A86.H86.1985 86152706 2). Japanese invasion: history and atrocities, call number DS777.533.A86.H83 1992, isbn 9624291071 3). plague upon humanity : the secret genocide of Axis Japan's germ warfare operation, isbn 0060186259. My univesity library uses call # like the Library of Congress. The book and internet sources I got never mentioned what Nanshu said, which only appeared on a few extreme right-wing sites. Googling should reveal that.--User:Waliwali.
    • Discussion is now at Image talk:Vivisection.jpg. KEEP until Nanshu backs up his claims with sources. --Jiang 23:49, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Jiang failed to prove that it is real. We cannot keep this under the current file name. --Nanshu 02:38, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
      • Waliwali has cited his sources. Nanshu has not provided reason that these sources are not telling the truth. He has chosen to ignore them. --Jiang 03:02, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
        • Waliwali didn't bring info to prove it at all. He only listed the books showing the photo and did arbitrary labellings. In contrast, I give the source although it's not easy to verify it. As I said above, we cannot keep this under the current file name. Delete or rename! --Nanshu 03:35, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
      • What source did you give? Please provide it here on this page. Otherwise, we cannot find reason to doubt WaliWali's sources. --Jiang 05:03, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
        • All we can get from Waliwali's list is that there are books showing the image. If they say more than that, then quote it. Currently, you don't provide any information about the photo itself. Unless you do that, it shouldn't claimed to be the truth, and the current file name is unacceptable. --Nanshu 23:00, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • whenever we see things published in a book we assume truth unless there are other factors to suggest otherwise. It is up to you to provide these factors. Why should be doubt these books? --Jiang 01:04, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
      • Maybe so, if they provide information on the photo itself. Otherwise we should assume it is another oiled bird. After all, you don't have information on it. --Nanshu
        • "it's actually unit 100 based in Changquan performing vivisection, capital of Manchukuo" --Jiang 00:17, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Don't you see what I said? Unless adequate information is provided, we cannot check your claim. But, O.K. I cannot expect you to do so. It's my turn.
    • According to [2], this photo was originally shown in 山東省動乱記念写真帖 by 青島新報社 (1928) as an autopsy on a Japanese victim killed by the Chinese, at Jinan Hospital in May 1928. And the magazine ゼンボウ reported it in April 1983 and June 1985. Since, unlike the Chinese claim, the source book is identified, this is convincing. And if that book contains the photo, it cannot be a photo of Unit 731 regardless of the validity of the caption because 1928 is too early for Unit 731. The only thing I have to do is to check them. Unfortunately, my neighborhood libraries don't have either. But I confirmed that the Toyo Bunko stocks 山東省動乱記念写真帖 [3]. So I hope someone who lives near Tokyo verify it.
    • Next. We can gain a certain level of information from the photo itself. First, she wears white socks and there seems a slit. Apparently, they are Tabi, Japanese traditional socks. And the men bihind her. They don't look experimenters on a human body at all! Maybe a man in a suit with a hat openly performed a top-secret operation. Rather, it exactly matchs the description of the autopsy at Jinan Hospital. Quote from 済南事件を中心として by 小川雄三 (1928):
      ...死体は済南病院に運び、我軍隊、警察側と支那側との立会いの上検死を遂げたが... (...[Japanese] corpses were carried to Jinan Hospital and were autopsied with the presence of our military men, policemen, and Chinese representatives...)
    • In fact, the man in the left dresses in military uniform but other do not.
    • Thus I conclude that this is an autopsy on a Japanese victim killed by the Chinese, at Jinan Hospital in May 1928. --Nanshu
    • Angela, don't move this discussion. Many multimedia stuffs have been uploaded to Wikipedia, but there seems no policy on their file names. At least ordinary users cannot change their file names unlike articles. So I think this is a good opportunity for reviewing the current practice. --Nanshu 03:25, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
      • If there is no consensus to delete it, it should not be on this page. Please move it back to the talk page. Angela. 21:48, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)
        • Will I create a new page in the Wikipedia namespace like Wikipedia:Images to be renamed? There seems limited demand for such a page, and I think it is better to keep the discussion here. --Nanshu 23:14, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)


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April 22

  • User:Sannse/thumbs for deletion lists 50 or so old thumbnails of dogs. Please delete the list page once the images are gone (or transfer them to here, I just thought it was a few too many for this page). Ta -- sannse (talk) 13:11, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

April 23

  • Image:WheatFlower3S.JPG
    • Obsolete thumbnails — Timwi 19:28, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Not an orphan, and no VfD tag was added until today, so moved from April 14 to April 23 section. Angela. 03:21, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
    • It is the thumbnail of this large one: Image:WheatFlower3.JPG. --Menchi 03:58, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Technically, it is true that this picture is now obsolete, since thumby thing is working. It was not at the time of the upload. However, I also think that when a picture is listed in a user personal space and proposed for deletion, it is perhaps good manner to ask the original uploader of the picture what they think before deleting the picture without a warning. I know that as soon as I give a picture, it is no more mine, but it is good manner anyway. If the uploader is not warned, another neat thing to do is to put a vfd message on it, so that the author of the picture has a chance to realise the picture is gonna be deleted. I thank Angela for warning me and moving down that picture. I think that if we want this encyclopedia to have a nice bunch of free picture, instead of copyrighted ones, or fair use ones, it is preferable to be nurture the ones providing pictures. All my pictures are personal, and I use some of them in my personal space as well (to decorate the pages :-)), so please tell me when deleting them. SweetLittleFluffyThing
  1. bitmap instead of png or jpg
  2. uploaded by persistant vandal
  3. orphan
  4. hoax RickK 04:02, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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April 25

  • Image:TuFru.jpg
    • I, uhm, vote to delete this. — Timwi 22:10, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
      • It looks relevant, what's the reason for the deletion request? silsor 02:03, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC)

April 26

  • Image:George-W-Bush2.jpeg - orphan duplicate, strangely flashes between the normal picture and a vandalized one Guanaco 00:11, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC) because it's actually an animated gif with the wrong extension Guanaco 00:13, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

April 28

  • Image:Wik-1.gif
    • Vanity image (not even in jpg or png). This image could never be put to good use in the encyclopedia. Wikipedia_is_not demands deletion of the image Dmn 00:09, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep and convert to png. This kind of thing is okay if not uploaded excessively and only used on user pages. Guanaco 03:42, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
      • I made it a PNG at Image:Wik-1.png but the background isn't transparent so maybe GIF is better for this. Guanaco 03:57, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)


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