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More requests

• It would be nice to include a small time delay, say 100ms, to avoid excess page requests when one is merely passing over a link.
• It would also be nice if hovering an image didn't cause the image itself to load again in thumbnail form...
• When viewing diffs on the history, popups on the revision links are bad. :) This might be mitigated by the first item above, but it's not hard to just not pop up on them.

I can implement these if you don't have time. :)

-- Taral 23:09, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

• I agree with the time delay. This should be easy to do, so I'll do that. is not quite as easy as I'd thought, so I'll leave that to you :-)
• I think that, useless though it seems, it'd be nice to keep the current behaviour of including the image in the popup as a visual cue. However, the script should use a scaled version of the image already loaded on the page rather than fetching a smaller version, I agree. There should also be an option to disable images when hovering over visible images. If you'd like to implement this, I'd appreciate it.
• I like the popups on revision links, since it lets you do stuff like reversion, editing old revisions and so on. The preview is also useful for locating page blanking vandalism. If it really annoys you, you could implement an option to turn them off.

Thanks for the offer of code! Lupin|talk|popups 23:31, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I created http://www.taral.net/popups.js as a schematic for the delay code. Does that help? The existing popups code is crufty enough that I don't want to edit it directly for fear of breaking it. -- Taral 21:41, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I tried to implement your suggestion - here is my diff. It nearly works, but the problem seems to be that mouseout events are not always generated on my (fairly slow) computer when you move the mouse rapidly across links. This means popups are generated when they shouldn't be with this approach as the timer is not cancelled. Lupin|talk|popups 22:36, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

2 questions

Sorry to bother you, but I have 2 questions.

1. How easy would it for me personally to have the one with the "actions" and "user" drop down menus rather than the sprawling links?
2. What would be the code to edit a page, then auto-submit it via a tab? Just a shell of a code would be fine, I'm sure I can modify it to my needs :)

Thanks so much in advance and I love the p[opups tool so much: and use it all the time :) --Celestianpower ^hablamé 16:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

1. If you use a mozilla-based browser, pretty easy: remove the line popupStructure='original' from your monobook.js (or change it to popupStructure='menus' to force the change in all browsers, although it's almost certainly going to fail in IE). The menus also work in opera (with glitches) and perhaps in konqueror, but I know of no other browsers in which they work.
2. When you're using the popups, going to a page like this:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox?action=edit&autoedit=s_teh_the_gi&autosummary=spelling%20correction&autominor=true&autoclick=wpSave

automatically edits the page and submits it (this one changes all occurences of "teh" to "the", is a minor edit and gives the edit summary "spelling correction"). Is that what you mean? You can add a tab to link to pages like this in the usual way. Lupin|talk|popups 19:10, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah - that is what I meant but I don't understnad fully. I've been thinking about using it for adding {{test}} templates to talk pages and also for changing my status page. More explanation would be appreciated so much. :) --Celestianpower ^hablamé 22:37, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

OK, here's the skinny on autoedit urls. Your url should be a normal edit url, such as

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagename?action=edit

followed by one or more of these, separated by ampersands (&):

• autoedit=autoeditstring (see later)
• autosummary=summary, gives the edit summary summary (a string not containing an ampersand)
• autominor=true or autominor=false - marks the edit as minor, or not
• autoclick=button - automatically clicks button. Common choices are wpSave, wpDiff (show changes), wpPreview

The autoeditstring is what does the work. This looks something like a list of sed commands. The general format is

 s/foo1/bar1/flags1;s/foo2/bar2/flags2; ... 

where the foos are regexps to be replaced, and the bars are the replacements. The flags are lists of characters which affect how the match is made, for example 'g' for global (replace all matches, not just the first), 'i' for case-insensitivity and so on. Also, the forward slashes can be replaced with any other character. Use \n for a newline. For example, using

 autoedit=s#$#\n{{subst:test1}} ~~~~#

as in

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Waterspyder?action=edit&autoedit=s#$#\n{{subst:test1-n|Richard Chase}} ~~~~#&autosummary=Your recent edits

should get you the test1 warning appended to the end of a page. I'm not sure what your background is, so please holler if you need more examples or explanation. If you haven't seen them before, you should read a little about regexps. The regexp dialect is that of javascript. Lupin|talk|popups 22:58, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Right, okay. How do I actually navigate to that link from a tab then? By the way, that menus thing that you said wroks, thanks! --Celestianpower ^hablamé 23:19, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

You want to add a new tab? I'd suggest adapting existing code to do that, as found at Wikipedia:WikiProject_User_scripts/Scripts (for example Wikipedia:WikiProject_User_scripts/Scripts/Add_purge_to_tabs). Do you know any javascript? If not, let me know exactly what you want and I'll see if I can put something together. Lupin|talk|popups 00:19, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

No, I've added the tab, I just want it to make the browser go to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Celestianpower&action=edit&autoedit=out/in&autosummary=I am in!&autoclick=wpSave" or "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Celestianpower&action=edit&autoedit=in/out&autosummary=I am out!&autoclick=wpSave" when that tab is clicked.Sorry if I'm being very cryptic. I don't know any javascript but have picked it up fast and can modify code quite well. --Celestianpower ^hablamé 14:05, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps you missed it? ^^^ Heh... --Celestianpower ^hablamé 18:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I missed all this stuff/forgot about it :-) Sorry! You want to use something like

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Celestianpower?action=edit&autoedit=s_\bin\b_out_&autosummary=I%20am%20out!&autoclick=wpSave

This should replace the first instance of "in" (as a whole word - the \b denote word boundaries) with "out". For the reverse direction, you want

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Celestianpower?action=edit&autoedit=s_\bout\b_in_&autosummary=I%20am%20in!&autoclick=wpSave

These are case-sensitive as things stand. You may want to append &autominor=true to these, it's up to you. Lupin|talk|popups 03:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Could you take a peek at my monobook and tell me what I'm doing wrong? It doesn't seem to actually edit the page... --Celestianpower ^hablamé 17:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

popup suggestions

A couple of suggestions for the popups, the one I suspect is easier first.

1. Could you add a link to the logs on the classic flat layout when viewing a user: e.g. hovering over the link to Thryduulf would take you to [1]. (I don't get on with the menu system, sorry!). A link to each type of log is only one click from that page, which is fine to avoid the necessity of lots of links.
2. For image pages could you indicate what the license is. The way that is probably easiest to do this is just to display the list of templates on the page, as there are few cases where the license isn't included on a template. I don't know if this is possible if the image comes from commons? This will help with finding untagged images. Thryduulf 17:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

1. This is easy, I'll put this in the dev version in a minute.
2. This is not so easy, due to my brain-dead script design :-) It's a good idea, though, and certainly something I'll think about. Lupin|talk|popups 19:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in. I've done this for my Picture Popups. The only sane way to do it was to change license templates so that they include the appropriate metadata. See {{image-license}} and its talk. Templates for the most common licenses have been standardized, but there's still some way to go. Zocky 20:06, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Peer review

Amid an ongoing peer review of the article on The Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation, I would please like you to read my comments for its improvement, then examine the article as a whole and see whether you agree with me.

I'm asking you, because you started the article on the Care Bears a year before I joined Wikipedia (March 18, 2004). This is to ensure all hopes of its featured status in the near future.

Please leave your response on its peer review page by clicking the above link. --Slgrandson 17:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

"Touch" link

Hi Lupin. What do you think about adding a "touch" link? This link would perform a "touch" or "null edit" via autoedit. I looked into adding it myself, but the link generation stuff was a little complicated to make a simple change. The touch functionality is useful for working around certain MediaWiki bugs associated with the "What links here" functionality. You probably know, but it is done manually by making an "edit" with no changes and clicking "Save Page" without an edit summary. It seems like it would be a lot like the "Bypass redirect" functionality, except with no change or edit summary. Let me know what you think. Mike Dillon 19:37, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Coincidentally I added this a little while ago to the dev version, and I think it's now in the stable version too. It's at actions → null edit when you use the menus. Lupin|talk|popups 21:46, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Do you think it could be done in the background using XMLHTTP? I don't think it makes sense for the page to reload if you null edit something from a link. Mike Dillon 02:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, this is a good idea, and it should be possible in principle. It's not so trivial to implement, since we probably have to take care of edit tokens and related things. Care to have a go? Personally, I'm happy to control-click to null-edit in a background tab, but I'll take a patch :-) This is as far as I got before I decided it seemed too much like hard work:

var poster=function(url) { 
  downloader.apply(this, [url]);
}

poster.prototype=downloader.prototype; // inherit from downloader
poster.prototype.setTarget = function () {
  if(!this.http) return null; 
  this.http.setRequestHeader("Content-Type","application/x-www-form-urlencoded; charset=UTF-8");
  this.http.open("POST", this.url, true);
}

function nullEdit(page) {
  var url=titlebase + page + '&action=raw';
  var posterCallback=function(d) {
    var postUrl=d.url.split('&action=raw').join('&action=edit'); 
    var p=new poster(postUrl, function () {alert('done');});
    poster.setTarget();
    poster.send(d.data); 
  }
  startDownload(url, null, posterCallback);
}

It may be more appropriate to change the poster so that it aborts the download once it realizes that the post has succeeded, without waiting for the response page to load. Lupin|talk|popups 03:15, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Rollback feature

Hey there,

I was wondering how your rollback feature adds a talk link after the IP address. My rollback button seems to only include the IP, but no talk link.

--Master Jay 01:13, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I don't think I did anything special. I think the software's changed so that all rollback links give summaries including the talk page. Lupin|talk|popups 01:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

This message is set at MediaWiki:revertpage. The message was changed a few days ago to inlcude a link to the talk page. Thryduulf 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Popups bug report - breaks extended EXIF data

Please can you have a look at bugzilla:4151. It appears that running the popups (I use the classic layout if that makes a difference) prevents the link "Show extended details" on the compact metadata table on image description pages from working. Thryduulf 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the bug report. This should now be fixed in the latest version. Lupin|talk|popups 04:20, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes it is now fixed, thank you. Thryduulf 10:44, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

need admin help

I got a link for you. Please block Logoboy95 (talk · contribs) for vandalism. He has been adequately warned about removal of {{afd}} notices. ~~~~ 15:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. Lupin|talk|popups 15:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I think I reverted nine offenses. ~~~~ 15:33, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Siege of Edo / Wikipedia policy question

I generated the Edo stub by looking at other Wikipedia articles (namely "Hojo Ujitsuna" and "Uesugi Tomooki" (the two commanders at that battle)). That brings me to an important question. What is Wikipedia's policy on internal citation (i.e. citing other wikipedia articles)?

Hm, I don't know. Maybe you could raise this question on the village pump? Lupin|talk|popups 20:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Sources for Space warfare

Hello, good work on Space warfare, and thanks for the contribution. However, you forgot to add any references to the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. From what websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to Space warfare? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? You can simply add links, or there are several different citation methods list at WP:CITET. Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 20:06, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! I've added an external links section with a link to an article on Almaz that I refered to when writing the article. Best regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 20:17, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Joelle Leandre

Thanks for the message. You gotta have patience; it takes edits to get these things up and typically when I get these kinds of messages they come about 25-30 seconds after the initial page goes up. Good luck with your own work and articles. Badagnani 20:45, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Comprehensive Smoking Education Act...However, you forgot to add any references to the article.

no, I didn't actually. because the article is listed as a stub, that means that it is not a complete and referenced article for wikipedia. the article is waiting for other members of a distributed user swarm to participate. Please be bold in editing and contributing! TitaniumDreads 21:17, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

it's a lot easier for the original contributor to list the references (s)he actually used to write the article. Adding references after the event seems the wrong way around to me -lupin

One of the strengths of wikipedia is that millions of people can contribute in a way works best for them. Just because extensive references for an new article stub consisting of 1-2 sentences haven't been added after 2 minutes of its creation doesn't mean that it is destined as a candidate for deletion. The information is out there and it wants to be free, but these processes can take time. Thanks for your interest in tobacco litigation and regulation, if you would like to contribute start by googling the phrase "Comprehensive Smoking Education Act" and adding information and links as you see fit :) TitaniumDreads 21:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello

Hi! Thanks for your message. However, i am a bit puzzeled, since i do not see how any of the things i have writen could be given referanced... The article is a basic stub so far, hardly having any claims at all. Care to give a example of something i could give a reference to?

Peace! --Striver 21:22, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, now i get it. That was a mass-mail. Peace! --Striver 21:23, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, thx, ill try :) --Striver 21:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Sources

I'll add some sources regarding Jesuit Asia missions soon. Which articles in particular were you looking at? Thanks for your interest in this topic! --Dpr 21:55, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I wrote the article on Papa Westray a long while ago. I remember I used the Rough Guide to Scotland as a source for most of the articles I wrote on Scotland. Other sources were a wide assortment of websites, but I wouldn't remember what most of them were. Warofdreams talk 22:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello you left a message on my IP-based talk page. I got the information from Working Lunch, a BBC program who had a feature on the economy of the Island.

Striver's articles on Islamic Christianity studies

Lupin, I've been engaged in head-on conflict with Striver for months. I'm an uptight academic; he is ... well, the kindest term might be "free spirit". There is not, so far as I know, any recognized field called Islamic Christianity studies within the traditional Islamic curriculum. There is, however, a doctrine called al-tahrif al-lafzi, the corruption of the text, which says that differences between the accounts of Biblical history in the Qur'an, and such accounts as found in the Torah and the New Testament, are due to Jews and Christians having corrupted divinely revealed texts. Tahrif al-lafzi is discussed in the Quran article and also in Similarities between the Bible and the Qur'an. It would probably be considered a subset of the traditional Islamic sciences of tafsir and ulum.

As he often does, Striver seems to prefer not to work on already established articles (where he usually ends up in revert wars with the other editors), he just establishes his own articles on the same topic -- without consulting anyone. Instead of editing the Similarities article (which seems to have been extant for a long time and to have involved numerous editors, Striver has set up Islamic Christianity studies, Muslim comparative religionists, List of Muslim comparative religionists, Islamic view of the Bible, Islamic comparative religion, and so on. He sets up misspelled stubs which are either deleted or completely ignored.

What can be done? Myself, I'm in favor of setting a hard-coded limit on the number of new articles a user can create per month. Zora 23:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I think that you just have to accept that people who have very different positions to yourself will edit wikipedia, and that there's nothing you can or should be able to do to prevent that. On the other hand, unsubstantiated assertions and invented terminology should not be allowed to survive the wiki process. Thus I'd simply suggest that you nominate articles that you feel strongly don't belong in wikipedia for deletion once you've requested that the authors provide reputable sources, and seek mediation where necessary. Personally I would oppose setting limits on article creation - it's sometimes quite legitimate for an editor to create lots of articles at the same time. I have no knowledge of the topics you discuss; I merely stumbled across that article and noticed that it had no sources. Please take what I say with a large pinch of salt, though, as I'm not usually found embroiled in controversial topics. Lupin|talk|popups 23:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Unref-talk

How does this new thing in your monobook.js work? I can seem to find any new links anywhere. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-12-4 23:34

RE: Pileni language

I'll see what I can find. It's been a while since I wrote that article. :-p Tomer^talk 03:39, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey Lupin...I added the Ethnologue link to the article, and some additional links and info to the TALK page. Tomer^talk 04:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

re: Cruiserweight

Yes, I should have added references then and I am trying to add them now whenever I start an article or add them to old ones of mine. But I'm unable to remember where I sourced that information for Cruiserweight except that it was from a boxing related website. So if you can find any references for it please go ahead. Rest assured, I'm adding sources to almost all my edits nowadays. Idleguy 04:21, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Small request for popupsdev.js

popupsdev.js is a really useful script for our WikiProject, but I wondered if I could make a small request. As we get further into the project, a lot of the remaining links should not be linked to anything, so could you add an option to remove a link completely. This would be really useful and much appreciated! Soo 01:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the request! I've had a go at this - the final link in the list of disambig targets should remove the link(s) on the page now. Do let me know about the inevitable bugs and if it can be improved. Lupin|talk|popups 01:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Frighteningly efficient! Thank you! Soo 11:34, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

One small bug that I just noticed; it removes the link, but the edit summary is just "(undefined)". Perhaps something more informative would be more appropriate! Soo 02:56, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Quite right. This should now be fixed. Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 03:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Barry Geraghty

An anon. ip editor had added this info to this page, I simply moved it to its own article. Therefore can't help with the sources, sorry! Grunners 13:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Rollback feature for RC feed

Hi, The rollback button in your little RC feed feature gives me a message "no rollback link found." Perhaps you've already addressed this issue, but nontheless, how (if possible) do I correct this, or, can you correct this? Thanks for your time. --Master Jay 02:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I'm afraid that rollback only works for admins. Are you an admin? Lupin|talk|popups 02:41, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Impostor

User:Lupin2. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-12-7 04:15

Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 04:34, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

another bug with the popups - redirect bypass script

I've noticed that if you access a page through a redirect, and you try to bypass a redirect on the target page, the script will try to edit the original redirect page instead of the proper one.

If what I said is confusing, here's an example: The page Planck redirects to Max Planck. If I accessed the page through Planck instead of the proper Max Planck, then the script will try to "fix" Planck instead of correcting the link on Max Planck. --Ixfd64 04:20, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! I believe I've fixed this in the dev version, although I'd welcome testing. Lupin|talk|popups 04:33, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

The dev version seemed to stop working altogether a few days ago, so I switched back to the regular version. Did you fix that problem as well? Just curious. --Ixfd64 06:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes. I use the dev version all the time, so while it may break sometimes, it tends to get fixed fairly quickly. Lupin|talk|popups 12:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Sources for Splendid Isolation

Thanks for your note, you're going back a while though as its been a long time since I edited that article. The changes I made were based on common general knowledge obtained over a long time from a vaiety of sources. I don't have any specific references to note. There is a fair bit of work to do on that article though as it is still a bit simplistic. I don't really have much time to work on it, though if I have spare time I'll try, so if you have the time & inclination to please research the topic, edit the page & note your own references. AllanHainey 15:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

References for space warfare

Certainly! I've got a book on space warfare at home that, despite it's cold war bias towards describing American systems, seems pretty factual. Once I get home I'll look up the ISBN and add a reference.

--KharBevNor 16:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Time trial bicycle is not really mine.

I did not write the original Time trial bicycle, I just added a stub cat to it. I have now also added a "unsourced" tag to it. 69.181.82.102 19:20, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

audio converter

Citations? That's all just basic stuff that anybody who's dealt in recording knows. Thanks for the kudos though. I should make a graph too illustrate the wave curve. -St|eve 20:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

"..part of the point of citing sources is to make it possible to check sneaky vandals inserting false information..." That's fine, please do check the work of "sneaky vandals." -St|eve 08:52, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

An obvious idea

Hey, I just had an obvious idea. Popups need an "about" link, so that it's easy to go to the help page. Maybe at the bottom of the menu(s)? Zocky 06:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Another thing... I know it was my idea to show source for templates, but since noinclude, includeonly and default parameter values were introduced, most templates became useful to look at in the parsed form, so maybe that's no longer a good idea. Zocky 10:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Sources for Babette:

You wrote to me about the solitaire game Babette's sources. I read about the game on a book called Card Games for One by Peter Arnold (a British book about Patience games). The solitaire software package SolSuite also has Babette. You can check out the rules.

translate Navigation popups to hebrew

how can I translate it to hebrew? Avichai 18:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

You'd have to go through the source and translate all the visible strings - it's not really set up for convenient translation, I'm afraid. The main interface bits are in strings have bits that look like one of

 <<functionName|shortcut=letter|friendlyName>>
 <<functionName|shortcut=letter>>
 <<functionName|friendlyName>>

You'd have to translate the friendlyName bits, and in the second case, you should add a translated friendlyName so that it looks like the first case.

There are also the hints, which are smeared across navlinkTag.prototype.getPrintFunction and wikiLink, and other miscellaneous strings that could be translated, too (search for the strings hint: and title:, there may be others). If you decide to take this on, don't hesitate to ask if you need more help! It would also help future translators if you could make all these strings variables. Lupin|talk|popups 22:31, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

It was hard but I've created an hebrew version in my username space. thanks for the help. Why cann't I use it in wikiquote and the other sisters? Avichai 23:48, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks to prompting from you and the other guy below, I've made the script more easily translatable. Check it out! Lupin|talk|popups 00:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

It's too late for me but thanks. I still have one problem - it doesn't show me the images! Can you check this out and tell me what should I change to HE? Avichai 09:43, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Hm, tracking down such bugs can be hard. Please could you try translating User:Lupin/popupStrings.js, and pasting it into the relevant section of a copy of User:Lupin/popupsdev.js? I'm sorry this came a bit late for you, but if you translate everything in a standard way like this it'll be a lot easier to avoid bugs. Lupin|talk|popups 13:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I'll try that and let you know what's going on. Avichai 14:03, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I've created a new version according to what you've said but it still doesn't show the images in the HE.wikipedia. Help? Avichai 14:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I've changed the script (both User:Lupin/popupsdev.js and User:Avichai/popupsnew.js) - it seems to show preview images now. Something funny happens with redirects, but I'm not sure what yet, though, as it's hard for me to decipher the hebrew! I also found some strings that I missed: [2] Lupin|talk|popups 16:28, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

It isn't working. and what about the 'Kb' string?? Avichai 17:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh, that's odd. It works for me using firefox. Which browser are you testing with? Please compare your monobook.js to mine on he and check that you've cleared your cache. I'll add 'Kb' to the strings list. Lupin|talk|popups 17:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

My mistake - It DOES work! thanks! about the redirects - I saw it too... do you have any idea? Avichai 18:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

We also have a bug with the weeks! it's adding a 's' !!! and I'm afraid the time from the last edit isn't true either... maybe the diffrent time zone?? Avichai 18:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I've fixed the weeks bug in User:Lupin/popupsdev.js (see the last edit). I'll investigate the time thing. Lupin|talk|popups 18:19, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

It's quite hard for me to see what's going on. Please can you give a specific example of the bug, telling me the page, the link to hover over, what you see in the popup and what you expect to see (in hebrew). Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 18:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

In here you can see the links. it should be somthing like "correct the link"... Avichai 18:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I think the problem is in "popupStrings['Redirects']" can you fix it? Avichai 19:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC) another string you should change is 'toggle image size'. Avichai 19:44, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Sources for ILLIAC III

I think I located the sources I used. It was a long time back and the wikipedia article has propagated everywhere, so it was a bit hard to "filter" out the echos. -- RTC 02:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Awolf002 RfA

Thank you very much for your support for my RfA. I will do everything I can to justify your trust in me. Awolf002 03:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Dave Mohammed (and probably others)

Lupin said: Hello, good work on Dave Mohammed, and thanks for the contribution. However, you did not provide any references or sources in the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. Can you list in the article any websites, books, or other sources that will allow people to verify the content in Dave Mohammed? You can simply add links, or see WP:CITET for different citation methods. Thanks!

I must confess, I'm really awful at citing my sources. This was sort of on my agenda, I was going to add all of these cricketing names and then add a link at the bottom afterwards when I ran through them again which basically said the following:

• Dave Mohammed at Cricinfo.

The one thing that confused me about the sourcing at the time, was that I'm sure way back when we had a template for Cricinfo sourcing, but I cannot recall what it looked like. I wasn't going to start doing these soon, as it seemed a large project to undertake, but since you mentioned it, I will start tackling them as soon as possible. As it stands, I don't really have a project which is close to completion (I'm currently working through County Cricketers) but I will add as many of these sources as possible.

Thank you for noting this. As I have said, this is one of my many problems, remembering when and what to source. I promise to get it sorted very soon. Bobo192 05:58, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Redirect bypass for {{categoryredirect}}

Hi Lupin. I implemented a redirect bypass for uses of {{categoryredirect}}. Have a look at it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMike_Dillon%2Fpopups.js&diff=30689281&oldid=30037899. Mike Dillon 07:24, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

You might like this diff too, which makes it easier to add new disambig templates to the regex (I added {{hndis}}). Mike Dillon 07:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

another possible bug with popups.js

I hate to bug you again (no pun intended) about the popups, but I think I may have found another bug. I noticed that if I put my cursor over a link with an ampersand (&), the script will access the wrong page. For example, if I put my cursor over R&B, the script will try to access the R article instead. --Ixfd64 08:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Not at all, your bug reports are very welcome. This problem does not appear in firefox or opera, but IE has it and konqueror has an "interesting" variant bug. I'll investigate when I get the time. Lupin|talk|popups 13:46, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

By the way, I noticed that IE is giving the the dreaded "Error on page" message. I can't figure out how to get a line number out of it though (I'm running it under WINE and clicking the error icon doesn't seem to help). Can you find the line number and error for me? Thanks. Lupin|talk|popups 13:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Security problem

Hi. It scares me that anyone could edit my monobook.js page and make my browser do whatever they want when I look at Wikipedia. Can I get this "feature" disabled, or get the page locked so only I can edit it? Are there any other magic pages like this one? --P3d0 17:05, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Luckily the devs have thought of this, and javascript pages in your user space are automatically protected from editing by others non-sysops. Lupin|talk|popups 18:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks. Is there some place I can find out more about such things? --P3d0 19:05, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure that there is. This fact doesn't seem to be widely known. I'd echo the comments of Chairboy and Mike Dillon below about security worries. Lupin|talk|popups 16:31, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

How did you learn about User:Xxx/monobook.js? From the Mediawiki source code? --P3d0 19:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

It wasn't from the source code, but I forget where exactly. Probably Wikipedia:Tools or Wikipedia:WikiProject_User_Scripts. Lupin|talk|popups 23:09, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Another security problem: because our monobook.js file includes your script, don't we need to trust you not to put anything malicious there? --P3d0 19:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Same applies to the authors of every other program you run and website you visit. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 19:26, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

No it's not the same. On other web sites, I must trust the authors. On this case, I must trust some random user. --P3d0 19:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi there! On other web sites, you must trust the authors. In this case, you must also trust... the authors, Lupin in this case. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 19:26, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, you're quite correct. If you want to use my script as suggested, then you have to trust not only me but also everyone with access to an admin account. On the other hand, nobody is forcing you to use the script. Lupin|talk|popups 23:09, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

If this really concerns you, you can audit the code and copy it into your own namespace by doing {{subst:User:Lupin/popups.js}}. I have done this myself at User:Mike Dillon/popups.js (the copying, not the auditing), not because I don't trust Lupin, but because I sometimes develop enhancements to the popups.js script and I like to upgrade my popups.js on my schedule, not Lupin's. It's basically my equivalent of his popupsdev.js. Mike Dillon 19:48, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Eden Hospital

Hi. I have added the source of the article Eden Hospital.Thank you. Dwaipayanc

Image:Stravinsky picasso.png

Hi, could you clarify why you tagged Image:Stravinsky picasso.png as PD? Thanks, Mark¹ 20:05, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Hm, I don't remember why I did that. I expect that this was an error. Lupin|talk|popups 20:23, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Darn- it would be nice to have a PD pic of him. Mark¹ 20:36, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Popup Runtime Error

Hi. I just added your script to User:Think Fast/monobook.js. When I mouseover, I get a window. That part works great. When I click on a link, I get:

A Runtime Error has occurred.

Do you wish to Debug?

Line: 2479

Error: 'shiftKey' is null or not an object.

What should I do? Thanks in advance. --Think Fast 03:16, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the bug report. I've attempted a fix in the dev version. If you install that and clear your cache, does the bug go away or change? Lupin|talk|popups 16:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes! It does work now when I click! The only difference now is that the popup only displays a picture, "actions" link, article link, # of kb, # of wikiLinks, # of images, # of categories, and # hours/minutes old. i.e. a few things are missing, but that's okay. What matters is that I can follow what is there. Thank you very much. --Think Fast 03:01, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry. I forgot to add that it does still have the first bit of text that is on the page the popup links to. --Think Fast 03:02, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

If you use IE, I would advise against setting popupStructure='menus', since the menus don't work in IE. Remove that line and you'll get the intended effect, I hope. Lupin|talk|popups 03:16, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I do use IE, but I couldn't see what you mean by "popupStructure='menus'." Also, I am now having a different problem. Sometimes when I mouse over a link, I get a runtime errror. Do you know what this could be? Thanks --Think Fast 21:01, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

No. I find it very difficult to debug Internet Explorer, because I run it in Linux and all the debugging features don't work. Can you click the error icon and tell me the line number for this error? Thanks, Lupin|talk|popups 23:02, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

When I mouseover most (but not all) links, I get:

Line: 2622

Error: Not implemented

By the way, I am using the dev version. --Think Fast 21:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

popups interface!

could you write the interface messages together like the style of the mediawiki languse file, so that we can translate this wonderful file to other language. Another question is the popups can't recognise the chinese and japanese article's title, It always display empty page. I think it's someting relate to coding. and I find Please have a try in this two version wikipedia.--Vipuser 09:01, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I also found that the title not the ASCII code will not be recognized. like Hugo Chávez in en.wikipedia.--Vipuser 09:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi. What is the language file you had in mind? If I get time to do this, it would be useful to have a model to copy. I see a problem with that link in Internet Explorer, but not opera or firefox. Which browser are you using? A little investigation has lead me to suspect that it's a bug in explorer rather than in my script this time, although I could be wrong. Lupin|talk|popups 20:16, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello again. I've gone ahead and separated out lots of the messages for easier translation - see User:Lupin/popupsdev.js. Lupin|talk|popups 00:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your hard work! I'm indeed use IE. so that's a big problem because a lot of people use IE or the browser with IE core. I thinkthe non-ASCII characters can not be displayed in the form you draw, But it can displayed in the tips rightly!--Vipuser 08:08, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I have translted some popupStrings you list in User:Lupin/popupsdev.js, It works! but most of messages in the scripts have not been separated! two more bugs in the new js script: one is the tip can not be displayed correctly pointed to the items from "edit" to "new" in the popups. another is the tip display all the titles as "mainlink". It can display correct in the old popups.js script.--Vipuser 08:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I have seen the User:Lupin/popupStrings.js page. It's great~ and I'd like to have a page with the full code like User:Lupin/popupsdev.js. so that I can have a try to test!--Vipuser 00:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh, you can make one of those yourself. Edit popupsdev.js and copy the code into a new page. Then find the popupStrings bit in there and replace it work the content of popupStrings.js. Then edit away to your heart's content! Maybe I should merge the two files anyway, thinking about it. Lupin|talk|popups 00:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I've spliced all the strings into popupsdev.js. It was a bit silly having them separate, I think :-) Lupin|talk|popups 00:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey! It's wonderful! The new version of the popups works! It can recognize the chinese characters in Internet Explorer now, I have translate the messages in a new js file: zh:User:Vipuser/popup.js. Most of the messages are translated. here's one bug: the whatLinksHere in the third row have not been separated to translate. Please fix it!--vipuser(talk) 03:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Two more bugs: messages stub, Disambig and something like this if have need to be separated and the redirect title can not be recognized as right code.--vipuser(talk) 03:36, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

And what's the exact meaning of "Show the edit made to get revision". please give me an wikilink I can point to it show this message, or explain it! thank you!--vipuser(talk) 03:41, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• whatLinksHere is now included.
• Do you mean that stubs aren't counted detected correctly? I have to think about the best way to handle that, as it's not a matter of translating a simple string.
• Please give an example of the redirect problem (a page, and a link to a redirect on that page). I'm not sure what you mean exactly, and it's hard for me to locate redirects.
• The "show edit made to get revision" link is displayed when you hover over a particular revision of a page. When you click the link, you get the diff between that revision and the previous one. For example, go here and hover over any of the date/time links. Lupin|talk|popups 03:50, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• Note that this link only appears if you don't use the menus. This is the default in Internet Explorer (because the menus don't work), or you can turn the menus off in firefox by using popupStructure='original'. Lupin|talk|popups 03:58, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm doing that. please add more messages such as oldEdit diffCur, and Title + oldid=xxxx can not display correctly!--vipuser(talk) 04:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Here about the redirect bugs: zh:User:Vipuser/sandbox--vipuser(talk) 04:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

If I click the article title display on the popups, It will not go to the right article but go to a new article with no content! It related to the code, please see my sand box above!--vipuser(talk) 04:54, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

not a bug! --vipuser(talk) 05:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

please see the bug 2 in my sandbox!--vipuser(talk) 05:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

OK, I think these are fixed now. Lupin|talk|popups 13:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey! Please pay attention to Bug 2 again in my sandbox.--vipuser(talk) 16:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

OK! The bug 2 was fixed now~ Cheers~--vipuser(talk) 14:02, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Just a quick "thanks" for making this work with Opera! I had one crash the first time it loaded the "filter recent changes" page, but after trying again it's been working fine, so I've edited the page to reflect that.

Sorry about putting "Firefox only" on the page too - I was aware that it should work with Seamonkey, but I haven't got a copy and didn't want to suggest that it ran on something which I couldn't verify. Dan100 (Talk) 10:18, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks for the barnstar. Lupin|talk|popups 04:17, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

For creating a first-class anti-vandal tool, and making it work on a wide range of browsers. Dan100 (Talk) 10:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Dave Mohammed

Lupin said: {{cricinfo}}, perhaps?

That's the one. I'm sorry, I had continued to make sourcing in the same style without using the template, but I think it had had the same format anyway. Thank you for supplying me with the template and I will attempt to use it in the future. Bobo192 11:19, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Popup tooltip help

I find the current popup tooltip help is full of fallacies of definition. For instance, the help for "null edit" is "make a null edit to <article name>". For someone like me who doesn't know what a null edit is, that's not helpful. Same for Edit, History, etc. --P3d0 19:25, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I am inclined to agree. If you have any alternative suggestions I'd be pleased to consider them. Lupin|talk|popups 21:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok I'll try to help where I can, but I have to go to work now. I still don't know what a null edit is though.  :-) --P3d0 15:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Current concensus:

Edit

Change the contents of this page

History

List the recent changes to this page

Show last edit

Show effects of the most recent change to this page

Move

Change the title of this page

What links here

List the pages that hyperlinked to this one

Related changes

Show changes in articles related to title

Null edit

Submit an edit with no changes to title

Search

Find Wikipedia articles containing title

Global

Find any Wikipedia pages containing title

Unwatch

Remove title from my watchlist

Watch

Add title to my watchlist

Talk

Show the discussion page for title

Edit talk

Modify the discussion page for title

New topic

Start a new section on the discussion page for title

They seem pretty good to me. I don't think mentioning Special:Watchlist is helpful for neophytes; "my watchlist" is probably better. You can find a definition of a null edit here. When I do use them, it's mainly to update Special:Whatlinkshere and the Image links section on image pages when they get out of synch due to mediawiki bugs. There may be other uses that I'm not aware of, though. Lupin|talk|popups 00:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I have modified the above to reflect your comments. (Please feel free to do the same if you want - this is a wiki after all.  :-) --P3d0 03:15, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I think replacing null edit with dummy edit is another fallacy of definition, an an inaccurate one at that :-) So I've changed that. Lupin|talk|popups 03:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Lupin, I think you are the most patient, polite person I have ever encountered here. You're an inspiration. --P3d0 03:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Technical help with your popup thingy

Hi, I understand that you and some guy in the Hebrew Wikipedia are adjusting your popup tool to work in Hebrew. I tried it, but it didnt work - it displays gibberish. I use win98SE and IE... perhaps it is because of the OS and IE... Do you have any idea how I can fix it, w/o getting XP and changing to firefox? :-P Thanks, Yonidebest 00:00, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

It is likely just because you use IE. If it's possible to install firefox in windows 98, I'd try using that until we fix it properly, or using the english version, or not using it at all. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Lupin|talk|popups 00:04, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd love to use the english version, if only there weren't any Hebrew letters in the Hebrew Wiki :-P In any case, thank you for your time. Yonidebest 00:27, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Please give the dev version a whirl - it more or less works with chinese in IE now, so hebrew should be a pushover :P Lupin|talk|popups 23:10, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

empty brackets in preview

The Hertfordshire Oil Storage Terminal article isn't previewing quite correctly with the classic popups. Everything is fine except that "(grid reference TL087084)" is just displaying as "()". Thryduulf 03:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Indeed. This is because, by default, templates are eliminated from the preview. To turn that off (at least partially), try setting

 popupPreviewKillTemplates=false;

However, as you'll doubtless rapidly discover, many templates are the sort that you don't want to see in a popup... if you have suggestions for an intermediate setting, I'm all ears. Lupin|talk|popups 03:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

What comes to mind is displaying the name of the template and its perameters (e.g. {{gbmapping|TL087084}}. If possible it might be an idea to link it to a preview of that template with those parameters on a blank page, possibly by starting an article in sandbox space and automatically previewing it. Thryduulf 10:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Displaying the raw template and parameters is exactly the behaviour I have at the moment with popupPreviewKillTemplates=false. Please give that a try. My feeling is that the potentially high load on the server generated by expanding templates would not be acceptable, although if someone wants to write the code to prove me wrong I'd be happy to reconsider this position. Lupin|talk|popups 13:21, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Displaying the template paramaters is generally good - but when an article starts with a template that is the entire preview. When that template is generic it makes the popup of limited value, e.g. the preview of Laudanum is "{{alternateuses}}", that tells me nothing about the article. A compromise behaviour wherby templates are ignored if they are the first thing on the page or follow only other templates but displayed if they come after other text would be best. This would also remove the display of infoboxes which often make little sense in parameter form. Thryduulf 23:37, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I should have recommended the other new option, popupPreviewFirstParOnly. Try setting that to false at the same time. Laudanum has a nice preview then. However, pages big leading infobox templates have silly previews; I'm not sure of a good heuristic for fixing that. Apart from that, I much prefer the previews with these settings than the old ones. Killing templates maybe makes more sense for people primarily interested in reading wikipedia rather than editing it. Lupin|talk|popups 23:46, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

The only heuristic I can think of that might work is to define a large template either by the number of paramaters it takes e.g. popupKillTemplatesIfParamsGreaterThan=n (I think 3 would make a good cutoff point), or by the page size of the template, but I don't know if this is (a) easy to find (b) reliable or (c) what a good borderline is. Thryduulf 16:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Willy on Wheels?

Could User:Wilfredo be a WoW? I'm probably just overreacting but he refers to Willy and he hasn't done any main namespace contribs. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:26, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I doubt it. Looks to me like some kid playing with the wiki with his/her friends. Lupin|talk|popups 05:33, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay... sorry to bug you. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:35, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism

You recently sent me a message claiming I vandalized the Allied Precise Gunmen article. However, I was merely reverting vandalism done by others by means of posting knowingly false information and clearly POV material.

For crying out loud

Are you going to send that to me for all the hundreds of stubs i've made over the years? How about I give you a list and then you can spam my talk page several thousand times with it all at once, rather than doing it piecemeal.

Morwen - Talk 07:11, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

If you find this unhelpful then I will try to remember to not send you further messages of this sort. I'm not sure of the best way to get these articles referenced other than contacting the authors, though. This method has been put forward as preferable to slapping {{unreferenced}} on the article. Do let me know your thoughts on this. Lupin|talk|popups 13:18, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

How about writing actual messages rather than copying and pasting stuff to people in duplicate? By the way, when was the last time you added a source to an article? Morwen - Talk 13:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

If it makes you happier, I can write a short message to you every time. Sorry if I've ruffled your feathers. To answer your second question, yesterday. Lupin|talk|popups 13:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

By the way, I'm using {{unref-talk}}. If you do find the use of this template offensive, I suggest you mention it on the template talk page. Lupin|talk|popups 13:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

That would be much better. I am happy to answer to genuine enquiries, but if you are asking people to do research, it would be good to demonstrate a bit of effort on your own behalf by actually bothering to write text. I suspect you might find other experienced editors also similarly resenting being talked down to. Morwen - Talk 13:29, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Sources for List of the largest artificial non-nuclear explosions

I have provided an inline link for the list of the largest artificial non-nuclear explosions, which I have added to the end of the section about the 2005 Hertfordshire Oil Storage Terminal fire, as per your request on my user talk page. In writing the section, I really only made use of the 2005 Hertfordshire Oil Storage Terminal fire article and the BBC News article.

Thanks for the tip. Andrew 11:15, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

European Parliament election, 1989 (UK)

I believe the original source was electionworld.org, which is offline. I have added new sources from all elections from 1979 to 1999. Please do not bother me again with requests, as I have left Wikipedia and have no interest whatsoever in returning. Deus Ex 12:29, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Fantastics

Hello Lupin! Thanks for the compliments on my work on the Fantastics article. I am sorry but I do not have specific sources for that article. I used to have on my User Page (before I basically quit editing on Wikipedia) a message about why. I used to keep about 5+ notebooks full of pro wrestling notes such as title changes, wrestler stats, etc. from watching wrestling from the early 1980's until early 2005. I created several articles from what I saw on the actual TV shows and from old wreslting magazines such as Pro Wrestling Illustrated, Inside Wrestling and others. So, I don't have any specific sources. You can verify most of my information with any google search and just check pages or any of those wrestling titles sites as well. Sorry and thanks again for the compliments! phatcat68 22:33, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Fleet

I'm afraid my source is based on journeys along that stretch of line.--Enotayokel 08:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Eeek! It's a bug!

At least in popupsdev.js. Try hovering over User:Jareth and check the link to the New York Women's House of Detention. It's displayed correctly, but the URL is cut off at the single quote. Zocky 00:44, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Heh, thanks for catching that. Of course, it's really a bug in livepreview, which makes it difficult to catch. Lupin|talk|popups 00:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Well I didn't want to fix livepreview, so I've added a fixHTML() function instead :-) Hopefully popupsdev.js should be fixed. Lupin|talk|popups 14:17, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

popups problem!!

I am korean, but in popup window, korean character is broken...:( WonYong 15:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I've been making fixes to User:Lupin/popupsdev.js to get it working in the Chinese wikipedia. I think it should work in the korean wikipedia too - please give it a try. You might also like to translate the interface (search for translating in that file, edit it and save a copy on the korean WP). Lupin|talk|popups 13:54, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

THANKS!! :) WonYong 14:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Lincoln Mark VII

Sorry to say I used no reference but memory -- I was one of the product development people who worked on the vehicle, mostly related to powertrain options (volume, cost, capacity planning). My edits were based on personal knowledge as an insider. Paulmeisel 00:04, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Warn (Filter Recent changes)

When I click warn, a new window opens, and goes to the right page, but I dont get {{subst:bv-n|ARTICLE}} in it, is my code wrong? Brian | (Talk) 11:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Probably not. The code that actually does that is in my popups script. You can either install that, or install just that bit of code. It's in User:Lupin/autoedit.js and you could install it by mimicing the installation instructions for the popups, replacing popups.js with autoedit.js (twice). Lupin|talk|popups 23:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Popups autoedit

In order to help welcome new users to Wikipedia, I want to be able to autoedit user talk pages from the user creation log. I can use this link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:User_name?action=edit&autoedit=s#$#\n{{User:Mathwiz2020/Welcome}}~~~~#&autosummary=Welcome!&autoclick=wpSave&autominor=true

Is there a way I can make Navigation Popups present me with a link to this website, replacing User_name with the user name, every time I hover over a user name? This way, I can quickly and efficiently welcome users to Wikipedia. Thanks. — MATHWIZ2020 ^{TALK | CONTRIBS} 19:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

This is probably the simplest way: add this to your monobook.js.

window.userGreeter=function(data, download) {
  var user=userName(articleFromURL(download.url));
  if(!user) return '';
  var lk=titledWikiLink({article: talkPage(popUserNamespace+':'+user), action:  'edit', text: 'greet ' + user});
  var autoParams='autoedit=s#$#\n{{User:Mathwiz2020/Welcome}}~~~~#&autosummary=Welcome!&autoclick=wpSave&autominor=true';
  return appendParamsToLink(lk, autoParams);
}
window.extraPopupFilters=[window.userGreeter];

I haven't tested this much, so do holler if it fails to work as expected. Lupin|talk|popups 02:10, 18 December 2005 (UTC)