Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion

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Sometimes, we want to delete redirects. Hence this page.

Other Votes for deletion (VfD) pages: copyright violations -- images -- speedy deletions -- lists and categories -- votes for deletion

Deletion guidelines for administrators -- deletion log -- archived delete debates -- undeletion -- blankpages -- shortpages -- move to Wiktionary -- Bad jokes -- pages needing attention -- m:deletionism -- m:deletion management redesign -- Wikipedia:Cleanup

List articles to be deleted in this format:

When should we delete a redirect?

To delete a redirect without replacing it with a new article, list it here. This isn't necessary if you just want to replace a redirect with an article: see meta:redirect for instructions on how to do this.

You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met:

  1. The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. (see meta:searches and redirects for proposals to lessen this impact)
  2. The redirect might cause confusion. For example, "Charles C. Boyer" used to redirect to "Daniel C. Boyer", because Daniel was accidentally called Charles on one external web page. However, this caused confusion with the article on Charles Boyer, so it was deleted.
  3. The redirect is offensive, such as "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs", unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is a slogan being discussed in the article.
  4. The redirect makes no sense, such as [[Pink elephants painting daisies]] to love

However, avoid deleting such redirects if:

  1. They have a potentially useful page history. If the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
  2. They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely
  3. They aid searches on certain terms.
  4. Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful - this is not because the other person is a liar, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways.

For example, redirecting Dubya to George W. Bush might be considered offensive, but the redirect aids accidental linking, makes the creation of duplicate articles less likely, and is useful to some people, so it should not be deleted.

Redirects to be deleted

People voting here may also be interested in the discussion on the policy regarding the deletion of offensive redirects.

February 4

  • What caused the American Civil War? -> Origins of the American Civil War - question is wrong form for Wikipedia. Speedy deletion? Listing here. Fuzheado 05:48, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • seems to be doing no harm. leave it. -Anthropos 05:52, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Anon is creating a lot of redirects to that page. Should we suggest that he work elsewhere? Pakaran. 05:59, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Presumably, he was inspired by my query at Wikipedia talk:Redirects#Redirects phrased as questions. I would say let this one stand for a week or two and see if it significantly impacts google/ask jeeves ratings. Tuf-Kat 06:11, Feb 4, 2004 (UTC)
      • No Wikipedia article exists in the top 100 google hits for What caused the American Civil War (no quotes) on either google or askjeeves. I'll try again in a week and see what happened.
    • Delete. I agree that the question form is inappropriate. Herbee 03:18, 2004 Feb 23 (UTC)

February 7

  • GermanY - listed on vfd by someone else. No vote from me. Anthony DiPierro 21:48, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete; left over from the old CamelCase days. --Delirium 11:58, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep unless edit history is merged with Germany -- User:Docu
    • merge history and delete. --Jiang
    • Delete. Herbee 03:17, 2004 Feb 23 (UTC)

February 15

  • List of Isms & List of -isms It has no redirect pointing to it; I just edited all pages to point to the correct article (which is -ism). JDR 02:14, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • doesnt hurt to keep. they're not misleading. people might have bookmarked the page at its old location --Jiang
    • Keep,reasonable variations on the title - SimonP 05:11, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. It's just garbage. Herbee 03:15, 2004 Feb 23 (UTC)

February 16

  • The galleria -> Houston Galleria. There are tons of shopping malls called "The Galleria". RickK 02:21, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Misleading. Maybe it can be a disambiguation page when articles about the other gallerias appear, but not yet. Angela. 03:22, Feb 16, 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep or turn into disambiguation page. Anthony DiPierro 04:00, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete if no-one can make it into a disambiguation page. For that matter Houston Galleria reads like a ad brochure, but I guess that's inevitable when writing about unremarkable commercial subjects. Onebyone 11:30, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. I agree with RickK. Herbee 03:22, 2004 Feb 23 (UTC)


February 18

February 19

  • aids kills fags dead, Aids kills fags dead - two more in the never-ending series of these redirects. -- Outerlimits 00:10, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete - They were created out of spite when it was discovered that they were deleted before VfD voting began on a similar one. - Texture 00:13, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Anthony DiPierro 00:42, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep, and I did not create them out of spite, but rather utility. Remember wikiquette, please. Sam Spade
      • In this exchange I see a lot of spite and little utility or wikiquette. It appears that Jack was going to create them out of spite but you were faster. - Texture 21:18, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've just realised aids kills fags dead and Aids kills fags dead never existed, so they can't be undeleted anyway. Angela. 22:52, Jan 30, 2004 (UTC)
Ok, I'll create them then, thanks. What about AIDS kills fags dead? Jack 02:54, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
And there was me thinking you weren't a troll... Angela. 19:04, Jan 31, 2004 (UTC)
Thats not nice :( Sam Spade 15:00, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • It seems these are anti-gay slogans so their redirection to the relevant article seems ok to me. Keep. Optim 21:14, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
      • They were recreations-under-similar-yet-not-quite-identical-names-designed to-circumvent-the-deletion-of-articles-already-formally-deleted. Not behaviour to be encouraged. - Outerlimits 05:02, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • KFC - needs to be deleted to move Kentucky Fried Chicken there. Anthony DiPierro 00:43, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep - why would you want it deleted when it is a redirect to Kentucky Fried Chicken - Texture 20:42, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. It may turn into a disambiguation page in the future. Optim 20:53, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
      • We didn't do that for AOL or WWF. If it needs to be a disambiguation page in the future we can fix it then, or put a link to KFC (disambiguation) at the top, depending on the circumstances. Anthony DiPierro 14:44, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep or make it into a TLA page. -- User:Docu
    • Delete. The company changed its name (KFC or KFC Corporation?) and there aren't that many if any TLAs to list. -- User:Docu
    • I did it w/o deleting. Redirects with no previous history can be overriden. --Jiang
  • (NAACP) - not needed. --Wik 07:13, Feb 19, 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Can't hurt. Anthony DiPierro 15:19, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. We already have NAACP. Why have (NAACP)? In the same manner we should have (USA) for USA and (AMORC) for AMORC. Optim 21:10, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete - The only reason for redirects is so that people can find something under another name. Since it will already find NAACP even if in (NAACP) there is no reason for this redirect. No one will ever look for (NAACP). - Texture 05:56, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • deleted, it's useless. --Jiang
    • Delete (no edit history, no internal links). --User:Docu
    • Delete, it's garbage. Herbee 03:39, 2004 Feb 23 (UTC)

February 20

  • MICROSOFT. If we keep it, I will create a redirect titled MiCrOsOfT and if I have enough time I will create all possible combinations of capital and lower-case letters! Heh, just kidding. I think we needn't have such a redirect. We needn't fill the database (and the server's hard disk) with garbage. Optim 04:54, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete - Texture 05:55, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Out of interest, do we have any statements from the hardware department as to whether there is a shortage of disk space? I honestly don't think "this is a waste of disk space" should be considered a valid argument unless we have a reason to believe that disk space is a limiting factor. And if disk space *is* a limiting factor, then deleting one VfD or Village Pump and starting again from scratch is probably worth about a million redirects, so there might be other ways to approach garbage disposal. Onebyone 11:30, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. No reason to delete. Listing it here used up more disk space than it is using staying there. Anthony DiPierro 14:46, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Ignoring pollution is never prudent. Herbee 03:00, 2004 Feb 23 (UTC)

February 23

  • MOS Technologies 65816 and 65C816 processor should be deleted because the first one is positively erroneous and potentially misleading, and the second one is superfluous/unneccessary. No pages contain links to these anymore (I corrected the links). They are now empty (me again) but used to redirect to the now correctly named Western Design Center 65816 article. --Wernher 06:46, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

February 24

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