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Ishvara Temple (Arasikere)

Updated DYK query On 29 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ishvara Temple (Arasikere), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 17:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amitasagara

Well, I'm currently studying the Yapparungalakkarikai, and in the process I happened to notice that the reference was in the commentary rather than in the text itself. It's borne out by the Madras Tamil Lexicon's entry for "kunakankiyam". If you look at the online version (romanised), the reference it gives is "karikai, payiravurai"(i.e. karikai, commentary on the payiram section). I should add that it's not really a major issue - I just thought you might be interested in knowing. -- Arvind (talk) 22:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:INDIA Tagging with TinucherianBot for WikiProject Karnataka

FYI- Your attention and help is requested .You are receiving this note as you are the member of the project -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 05:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey frnd, can you help me with this ?

WP:INDIA Tagging with TinucherianBot for WikiProject Karnataka -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 09:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Autotagging for WikiProject Karnataka is compelete. Thanks for the help. See Project Talk page for details -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 10:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vithoba

Need your suggestions for improvements in the article. Please need a peer review on article talk. Thanks. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I will read it this week end.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Seven wonders of India

Dear Dinesh Kannambadi,

We have corresponded through these pages in the past. I find that Amar has not been editing the Karnataka pages. Who is looking after the pages for value editing?

I have created an article on Seven Wonders of India which includes two of our Karnataka heritage sites. May I request you to edit/ wikify the article and also introduce the photos of all the seven wonders from the interlinked wikipages. I have tried to do it since morning (sitting in San diego I have all the time in the world to browse wiki pages)but have not been able to do it. Regards--Nvvchar (talk) 16:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Literature in the Hoysala Empire

The article has two different spellings, Kavichakravarti and Kavichakravarthi for the same phrase ("emperor among poets"). I can't tell from references which spelling is more appropriate for the content. -- Michael Devore (talk) 20:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Either is fine.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 20:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kadamba Tree

Hi, DNK!

You have written the aritcle on Kadamba Dynasty. Some one had created a page on Kadamba tree and called it a mythical tree, which is not correct. I have now changed this artcile totally and you may like to have a look at it. It is a stub page and hence I could not put on DYK.--Nvvchar (talk) 14:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carnatic Music

Hi! DNK, You have been an ardent and committed contributor/editor of the articles on Carnatic Music (Karnataka Sangeetha). I came across an excellent biography titled 'MS - A Life in Music" by T.J.S George-ISBN 81-7223-527-5 published by Pubishers -HarperCollinsIndia (absorbing reading), which has not been referenced in any of the articles on Carnatic Music.The book is worth absorbing reading. Some of the leading names are also missing such as Veena Dhanam, Bangalore Nagarathnamma, N.C.Vasanthakokilam, etc (Among the famous women vocalists).You may find the book interesting and informative to exapand the articles on Carnatic Music. It may also be a good idea to write a seperate article on the meanings of all Carnatic music terminology for the understaning of non southindian readers of the world.--Nvvchar (talk) 14:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recent changes to articles and abuse by Special:Contributions/218.248.1.194

Please consider this note a head's-up on a recent spate of articles changes and abusive talk page remarks by an apparent single-purpose IP account Special:Contributions/218.248.1.194 to Kannada-related articles. Those abused in the remarks include User:Dineshkannambadi, User:Sarvagnya, User:KNM, and User:Amarrg, per [1]. Additional abusive remarks and edit summaries directed to Dineshkannambadi are to be found in the IP's history log.

While I can revert the abusive talk page remarks, the IP's contribution history also shows a string of changes to multiple Indian history articles. Given the circumstances, it appears that these changes are of questionable merit. Unfortunately, I am not qualified on the topic content to determine if any of the other changes are correct. Accordingly, I am posting to the talk pages of the editors referenced by the IP so that you can collectively or individually take any actions on the change articles, talk pages, or the IP account that you think appropriate. -- Michael Devore (talk) 03:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mangalore

Hi Dinesh, hope you're doing well. Managalore is currently FAC. As someone with a tremendous amount of knowledge about the state, your input would be very helpful. I have already provided some feedback. Thanks AreJay (talk) 23:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Sir, an abusive IP has been vandalising all most all the Karnataka FA articles in addition to leaving abusive messages on talk pages (talk:Chalukya Dynasty]]. If it continues, please consider softlocking these articles. I am still travelling and will be back in a week on active duty. thanksDineshkannambadi (talk) 14:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I already blcoked him. Take it easy and enjoy your trip. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ridiculous POV

Hi I've just been browsing through the Hindustani and Carnatic singers and the POV is absolutely diabolical. Almost every article has little encyclopedic value but rather say what a great singer and success they were and how super fast they were. PLease can you look into it and sort some of them out. It is quite embarrasing to read some of them. Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 11:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

Please transliterate "Gautham" in Kannada script on my talk page! I assume that you are a native Kannada speaker? Thank you in advance :-) --91.130.91.110 (talk) 14:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mysore mallige

Hi! KNM, Thanks for the congratulatory message.

I have almost completed two more articles, one titled " Architectural legacy of Karnataka" tracing from Kadamba period to the present which covers all schools of architecture (Tibetan, Church, Neo Dravidian and Sikh architectre also included) and another on Mutts in Karnataka. In the first article I have substantially used material from your very remarkably well done FA articles on architecture of Hoysala, Chalukaya and other tempels including photos (I hope there are no issues on this aspect) and supplemented with more info and photos. During my recent visit to Bangalore I bought a very informative CD (valued Rs 500) on "EPIGRAPHIA CARNATICA" prepared by ICHR Southern Regional Cetre, Bangalore, which should provide me more info on the subject of my article. In the second article, I am still collecting info on Lingayat and Vokkaliga mutts.If you have any references to suggest please let me know.Nvvchar (talk) 06:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Peer Review

Hi - I will take a look at it but it will probably take me several days as I am a bit busy right now. I fixed the cat issue from the PR talk page, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 13:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are very welcome - it sounds like a lovely temple - any chance of a photo inside? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 13:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. unfortunately it was too dark and electricity was out.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AE/BE spelling differences

I've replied in detail to your question on my talk page. -- Michael Devore (talk) 21:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Encyclopaedia and Encyclopedia in Literature in the Hoysala Empire

Encyclopaedia and Encyclopedia are both common in British English, based on my searches and reading of reference materials, including several Wikipedia comments. An editor might want to use Encyclopedia so as to keep the spelling consistent with both American and British English usage, and perhaps be a bit neater. However, since Encyclopaedia remains relatively common in British English, it seems to me that this ought to be primary author's choice.

For the article Literature in the Hoysala Empire, the two spelling variations are a moot point. The reference books use the Encyclopaedia spelling, as clearly confirmed by an ISBN lookup at several different library and book-seller locations. Even if the original titles used the ash and were anglicized, "ae" (not "e") is generally considered an acceptable modern English spelling substitute. Based upon the book listings, Redtigerxyz was mistaken in editing the book reference titles to use the Encyclopedia spelling. You can revert the changes as being in error or, if you prefer, I will do so. -- Michael Devore (talk) 20:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Architectural legacy of Karnataka

Hi! DNK, You suggestion for joint writing of the above article is Ok with me. How do we go about it? Shall I send you the article (already edited as draft on Sandbox) in advance by e-mail so that you can put in your edits and additions and post it as a joint article. I have tried to put in additional references.--Nvvchar (talk) 04:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article I am writing on Architectural legacy of karnataka to you about is becoming too long, more than 100 kb. I am not sure what to do with it.In the mean time I have posted an artcile on Deodar tree. You may like to participate in the discussions.--Nvvchar (talk) 05:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Commons categories

Thanks for your message. A photo or gallery page is placed in a category by adding the text [[Category:Temples of Karnataka]] (or whichever category you want) to the bottom of the photo/gallery page. See Commons:Categories for full details.

You should make sure that categories only contain appropriate content. By that, I mean it would be OK to put the Triprantaka Temple gallery into the Temples of Karnataka category, but it would be inappropriate to place the Belur gallery there because Belur is a town, not a temple of Karnataka.

Karnataka is the top level category for everything to do with Karnataka, including the temples, so you should be able to find everything you need in there.

Thanks, Papa November (talk) 16:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit

Hi Dinesh. Yes, I remember you well. I'd be glad to copyedit Literature in the Hoysala Empire with an eye toward prose flow, spelling, grammar, missing no-break codes, and the like. I'm apt to have little to say about content, though, because most of it will be unfamiliar to me. I have read the peer review. Finetooth (talk) 18:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'll start where Dan55 left off, and I'll read the talk page first. I plan to start later this evening. Finetooth (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The King, king business is pretty straightforward. The Manual of Style says here: When used as titles (that is, followed by a name), items such as president, king and emperor start with a capital letter: President Clinton, not president Clinton. On the other hand, it says: When used generically, such items are in lower case: De Gaulle was a French president and Louis XVI was a French king. By the way, I posted a question on the article's talk page about a place I got stuck, and I need your help to sort it out. Finetooth (talk) 03:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And later a second question. I worked my way through to the end, and it's time for bed. I'll come back in the morning and check the article's talk page and my user talk page for messages. Finetooth (talk) 05:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Lankan Tamil people

Can you kindly assist me in seeing any violations of WP:CITE requirements. I am not a very good at it and sandy seems to think that there are some left. Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 19:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hoysala Empire

Unfortunately it does that with some infoboxes and not others. I'm trying to move old countries to regions. Putting Asia in the continent box prevents them from moving. See Category:Former countries in Asia. "It should list very few, if any, article pages directly and should mainly contain subcategories." I'm trying to figre out a solution for this.Adimovk5 (talk) 19:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK!

Updated DYK query On 22 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mahakuta group of temples, which you recently created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 23:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query On 24 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kasivisvesvara temple, Lakkundi, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thank you for your contributions! - Mailer Diablo 11:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Srirangam99

Sir, just to let you know, this user is back to removing cited information from a FA, Chola Dynasty.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 12:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've already edited that article a bit so I think I'll abstain...He can't win anyway if he's outnumbered about 10-1. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He added info as well, as far as I can see. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Use of 'Manodharma Sangeetham' in Carnatic Music article

Hi Dinesh. Some time back an editor has added "Manodharma Sangeetham" to Improvisation Section of Carnatic Music without giving English meaning. I added the meaning as 'free style rendering of raga depending on artists expertise and imagination'. However some other editor keeps deleting the meaning. I guess meaning is required. Please add or suggest a better one. Thanks. Naadapriya (talk) 07:06, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bhutanatha group of temples

Updated DYK query On 29 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bhutanatha group of temples, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:50, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great work. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:50, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ThanksDineshkannambadi (talk) 00:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've got an idea

Would you be willing to help us out at Robot? I see that you're an electrical engineer from India. Robot is currently at WP:GAR, which means we have to get our act together or they'll take away our Good Article status. One of the sections is Eastern and Western views. I have a great book on Japanese views of robotics, and we have some active Chinese-Americans on Wikipedia working on robots, but we don't currently have anyone who would be good at giving us an Indian perspective on robotics. Do you have any ideas on this already, or would you like to find something on the subject and contribute a few sentences? (Feel free to reply here or on my talk page.) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 19:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

commons images --Vinayak Kulkarni (Bangalore) (talk) 04:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Dinesh, Thanks for reaching my talk page. I appreciate your efforts on the pedia, more on Karnataka. I did clean up some pages as contents seemed very light on some places info of Karnataka.

As mentioned by you, I will use Temples of Karnataka category for all related images in commons.

Again, you are doing a good work, keep it up and do reach me if you require anything.

--Vinayak Kulkarni (Bangalore) (talk) 04:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Image issue

Thanks for the note. If you could show me the images that Manjunath nikt has uploaded as his own, as well as where you uploaded the images onto Commons, that would be very useful. If you can see any images that are obviously taken from elsewhere, please point out the image and where you believe it was taken from- I definitely appreciate your help reviewing this situation, I just need you to be as specific as possible. J Milburn (talk) 17:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot- I have deleted the two images you pointed out. The collage used a copyrighted map as the base, so I deleted it as a copyvio. The lower resolution of your image from the temple was not in use, did not cite you as a source and was redundant as yours is higher resolution, so I deleted that too. Which images were taken from that webpage? J Milburn (talk) 17:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see, thanks. J Milburn (talk) 17:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops...a new image issue: the third image now has a big white space to the right of it on my computer. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 00:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dinesh, since you've raised several kingdoms of southern India to FA status, how about listing them as featured topics WP:FT? =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History of Tamil Nadu, is one option, sine you need to get a "main topic" featured first. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:55, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
History of Karnataka is not a FA. Therefore it cannot be a FT. For a featured topic, a main topic must be featured. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Look it it this way. If, say I get History of Kanpur, Geography of Kanpur, and Climate of Kanpur featured, it cannot be a FT. Why? Because Kanpur is not featured. Similarly you need to get Middle Kingdoms of India featured. Alternatively, if you can get another Hoysala topic featured you can bag a FT: Hoysala Empire (main) , Literature of Hoysala, and Hoysala article 3. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

... and congratulations on another great FA! - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 23:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My sincere thanks, and my congratulations as well. Keep up the good work, and thanks again, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto...congrats on another FA! The closing section of the article (Literature after the Hoysalas) is exactly the kind of info I was hoping to read about. Great job as always. AreJay (talk) 22:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and congrats

Thanks for the star and congrats for the new article. I think the Hoysala articles can be nominated for FT. But those which are not FA, have to be at least GA.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 12:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations

Congratulations on the FA, Dinesh. Please keep up the good work. I was glad to help, but most of the credit for copyediting and perseverance in the face of difficulty goes to Dank55. Finetooth (talk) 17:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations Dinesh! Keep it up. I've been been away for a while and am still trudging my way back. I had got a bunch of books from the library a while ago.. but have just started opening them now. One book about Jainism in Karnataka is interesting. Hope to free up myself more in the coming days and start working on it. See you around. Sarvagnya 19:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to hear from you. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 21:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Images

OK, I've finished the move to Commons. I haven't done any category sorting on them though, so you may want to take a look. As for the issue with the Hindu temples in Karnataka category, did you consider starting a deletion request on Commons to get rid of it completely? Papa November (talk) 22:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Fowler&fowler

I don't especially care. If you have a problem with Fowler, my talk page is not the place to discuss it. I am not a part of dispute resolution, so I suggest you head back to that page and pick up where you left off if you still have issues with him. Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: India page

Hi Dinesh, those kingdoms were removed as more than three continuous examples becomes a list. Since we have to maintain summary style, only the top three were retained. Many other kingdoms have also been omitted because we use the summary style. Its not the notability factor, rather the most prominent. Please list only the top three. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. Hope its okay now. Leaving out the Vijayanagara Empire would be a loss for the article.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 19:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not edit Talk:Kannada literature page

I would like to request you to not edit the Karnataka literature page and the related pages Halmidi inscription and Extinct Kannada literature until the issues of consistent exaggeration of the antiquity of the early works as well as the false characterization of the extinct works is settled. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 03:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What you call exaggeration is the opinion of numerous scholars. The fact that there are very few scholars who support your theory does not make the opinion of majority scholars redundant or an exaggeration.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since we have already had an RfC, which was inconclusive—in part because the arbitrator, user:Abecedare, has not been on Wikipedia in a number of months—I will be requesting mediation. I'd like to clarify, I am not making a threat, simply proceeding to the next step in the Wikipedia dispute resolution process. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are more then welcome. The mediators will have to have full access to the previous Rfc, your refusal to come to concensus and your silly attempt to strong arm me, by making false allegations at tha time.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 16:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Warkari-Haridasa

The two traditions are started around the same time, both Vaishnava, but in different regions: Maharashtra and Karnataka. I never came across the Haridasa faith but searching for Vithoba. The only Haridasa person i encountered was Purandardas, who starts with a salutation to Vithala, another name of Vithoba. Another important link with Karnataka is Vithoba's temple at Hampi, constructed in 15th century. I will search for references about Vitthala and haridasa and let you know. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 04:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[2] according to the link, there is no connection between warkari saints and Purandara-dasa.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review

I will be glad to review, although it might take me a few days. Thanks for asking, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Western Chalukya Empire

Sir, user Srirangam, who brings no sources to the table, has deleted large amounts of info from this FA, which I have reverted. Please do leave a warning message on his user's page to bring sources and discuss. Perhaps its time I opened an ANI, since this user has a history of FA abuse. He is also targetting Chola Dynasty, the original reason for his blocks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Locked now. YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model) 03:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I thought I already locked it...done now...Anyway, I need photography enthusiasts for my latest opinion poll and thought you might be interested in the link in my signature.....YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model) 03:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I will take a look tonight.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 13:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Lankan Tamil people

Rajaraja Chola Award
Hi Dinesh. Just to say you've done a wonderful job with your edits to the article over the past few months - it flows much more smoothly now, and is a much better article for the work you've done. Arulmozhivarman smiles in delight.Taprobanus (talk) 02:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyediting vacation

Hi Dinesh, As noted at the top of my talk page, I'm taking a break from copyediting in order to pursue other projects. I'm continuing to do peer reviews but not copyedits. I think the c/e break is apt to be long, so there would be no use waiting for me. Perhaps one of the editors at WP:PRV can help. I wish you the best. Finetooth (talk) 00:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Goan Catholics PR

Yes, something has gone wrong in the PR. Can you correct it. Will making PR1 active sove the proble. I had closed PR1 since the PR was showing 2 Goan Catholic PR's. KensplanetTalkContributions 13:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyediting and robotics

I'm sorry, as soon as my current copyediting assignments are done, and we reach the Oct 20 deadline for WP:V0.7, I will be devoting myself to collaborating on AI, robotics, and human-interest robotics stories. Best of luck at FAC. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 15:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having second thoughts. Yesterday I ate at my favorite Pakistani/Indian restaurant, and the owners were very impressed that I had worked on Indian literature articles ... it would be nice to have something on my userpage that gives me something to talk about with my Indian friends! I have a question: was the work I did on our last collaboration worth a share of the credit for the FA as a co-nominator, do you think? Sorry, that wasn't clear ... I mean, if I did the same amount of work on this article as I did on our last collaboration, could I get co-nom credit? If not, is there something more I could do to earn that credit? - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 16:19, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't need anything for Literature in the Hoysala Empire ... you already gave me a nice barnstar (see User:Dank55/Shiny_things). Michael Devore does do a lot of copyediting ... people will check how many edits they made to the article at FAC, so it's probably not a good idea to offer someone a FAC co-nom unless they do a lot of work on the particular article you're nominating, but yes, if Michael or anyone else makes a lot of edits to an article, and if their work is important and even essential, absolutely! It's okay to offer Michael a co-nom for your next article (in which case, I wouldn't want to ask to be a co-nom.) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 00:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, there's absolutely no need to feel guilty; different people have wildly different standards for what it takes to be a co-nominator. Malleus Fatuorum and I copyedited History of timekeeping devices at FAC, which already had 7 co-nominators, and they liked our contributions so much that they offered us co-noms too! (We declined.) Other people feel strongly that their name alone should be on the nomination since they did most of the work. I am always encouraging people to work together and share credit, because that's how professional writing actually gets done (even if publishers like to hype the writer as the "star", so you often see just one name on a book cover or magazine article). It's completely up to you. My personal standard is that someone shouldn't ask for co-nom credit for doing a just few things, but I typically make a lot of edits when I collaborate; I know AP Stylebook and much of TCMOS, which reflects professional writing standards in the US; I know guidelines and policies, including WP's style guidelines; and I am familiar with FAC. So ... I don't mind asking, but it's up to you. (Feel free to reply here; I'm watchlisting) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 00:25, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dan55, I am glad to say that we go ahead with you as the co-nom.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great, I'll start work tomorrow. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 03:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whie you are at it, I will be verifying citation page numbers and such, to ensure accuracy.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire

Amazing work with Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire, Dinesh. I learnt so much from that article. I have a few suggestions for improvement below.

  • While I understand that there's a need to give the historical context of the powers in throne at various points in time (given the subject), you should consider separating those into background sections separate from those that talk about the literature itself. For example the text below, though completely relevant to the article, doesn't gel with the text following it in the same para (there is an abrupt change in flow). Nor does it fit the section title.
  • The text in the lead should be sharpened to focus more on the literature and grouping the story about the empires to one para.
  • The article has a lot of content. In the interest of summary style, the sections need to be condensed with the original text moved to separate main articles.
  • Do we need to give context in parentheses to the extent of explaining that Karna was a half-brother of Arjuna? It'll definitely help the uninitiated, but they can always look the linked articles, right? Similarly, in one instance, you explain who Shaivites are, and later you explain who Shaiva Brahmins are. This adds to the already lengthy article.
  • Doesn't it merit a mention that the Veerashaiva movement and the emphasis on using native metre and vocabulary has a similarity with the movement of Azhwars and Nayanmars?

I leave it to your discretion on this. If and when you do the summarisation, please drop me a note. I'll probably do some copyediting. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On a related note, I recommend reverting the recent edit which changed the references to use a scroll area. This behavior is prohibited by the Manual of Style (see MOS:SCROLL). I suspect that if an editor who was a stickler for MoS style in featured articles saw it, the existing FA Chennai would be changed as well (it probably only has scrollable references because it is an older featured article that predates the MoS requirement.) -- Michael Devore (talk) 09:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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