Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 27
September 27
This is another category which was left in the incorrect form when the agreement to rename transport(ation) categories based on local usage was not implemented. Sri Lanka uses Commonwealth English. It has a Ministry of Transport, not a Ministry of Transportation. Rename category:Transport in Sri Lanka. CalJW 22:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Rename. This isn't a speedy yet? siafu 23:08, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Unused category, created to house individual pages for 30 seconds adverts which are now - as a result of this vfd - listed at list of The Simpsons television advertisements. Flowerparty■ 20:17, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Empty. siafu 23:09, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
British royal houses
There are two exceptions to the practice of naming categories for British/English royal houses "House of X".
Rename both CalJW 20:14, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Rename both. No argument. siafu 23:10, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Category for articles related to a completely non-notable website Fawcett5 20:10, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Even if the articles survive the AfD, there are still only three of them, and as such do not need their own category. siafu 23:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Stock exchanges
A few weeks ago I participated in a vote on renaming the stock exchange categories. A proposal was made that the abbreviations should be expanded. Some people, including me, suggested that in a few cases this would create confusing or excessively long category names. This may be the reason why only the LSE was amended. But I don't recall any objections being made to the general prinicipal, so I am now individually nominating the ones that no one objected to changing before.
- category:Companies traded on AMEX / category:Companies traded on the American Stock Exchange
- category:Companies traded on the ASX / category:Companies traded on the Australian Stock Exchange
- category:Companies traded on BSE / category:Companies traded on the Bombay Stock Exchange
- category:Companies traded on HKSE / category:Companies traded on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange
- category:Companies traded on NYSE / category:Companies traded on the New York Stock Exchange
- category:Companies traded on the PSE / category:Companies traded on the Philippine Stock Exchange
- category:Companies traded on the SGX / category:Companies traded on the Singapore Exchange (note that the word "Stock" is not part of its name)
Carina22 17:17, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Horribly POV category that merely stole articles from Category:People imprisoned for terrorism, imprisoned doesn't make a value judgment about guilt/innocence and merely states they've been imprisoned/detained. The category seems to have been created by User:195.188.141.133 to try and move articles towards. (Oddly, he also left an entertaining threat on my talk page, considing how left-wing I am IRL) Sherurcij 15:56, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - Inescapibly POV name. TexasAndroid 18:46, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. No argument. siafu 23:12, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
2 categories cover the same material, Category:Kidnapping is what the article on Kidnapping is categorized under. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:59, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Reverse Merge Category:Kidnapping into Category:Kidnappings per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories); articles included are almost all actual kidnappings, not articles on the topic of kidnapping. siafu 23:17, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
To rename using that following format as seen in Cat:Films by directors. *drew 10:09, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Rename. No argument. siafu 23:18, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
U.S. Senators by State
This is to rename all the subs of Category:United States Senators using format:
- from Category:U.S. Senators from Alabama to Category:United States Senators from Alabama. ∞Who?¿? 06:33, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
There are far too many of these to nominate all at once, and I don't think the "no-abbreviations" rule should be applied inflexibly to U.S. categories in any case, but I see no problem with renaming this one category:Foreign relations of the United States. CalJW 06:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Merge both into the parent category: Category:Fictional scientists. These two subcategories are unnecessary, and there's been contention on individual talk pages over whether or not particular characters qualify as 'mad' or 'heroic' to the point that they should be categorized as such. -Sean Curtin 05:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Merge as requested Carina22 17:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
This category is inconsistent with the other sub-categories of Category:Battles by country, since it (1) creates a categorization by the location of battles rather than by the participants as the other sub-categories do, and (2) it is not named "Battles of Foo". Because of (1), it should not (and cannot) be merged into another category, and should be deleted. Kirill Lokshin 04:25, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- To clarify why categorizing battles by location is problematic: such categories either try to use modern countries, which may have no logical connection to the battle (e.g. Category:Battles of Alexander the Great would be scattered among categories for Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, Israel, and others); or use historical countries, which introduce POV problems when battles cause territory to change hands (e.g. Fall of Constantinople took place in a city that belonged to the Byzantine Empire before the battle and to the Ottoman Empire after it). To avoid these problems, the remaining battle categories use participants, rather than location to organize battles. Kirill Lokshin 12:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep: This category is meant to include the battles that occurred in Saudi Arabia. It may be considered a stub category now, but definitely should not be deleted. -- Eagleamn 08:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- I'll note that there are reasons why categorizing battles that occurred in a country is problematic, some of which I've expanded on above. Kirill Lokshin 12:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep It is appropriate to categorise both ways. Carina22 17:17, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
U.S. Reps by State
- First we have two categories Category:Members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Category:Members of the U.S. House of Representatives by state. I propose we merge the first into the latter, I do not see how any biographies would not be in one of the state subs. Or merge them both to a non-abbrv category.
- Oppose: Why would you leave the "U.S." abbreviation in the parent cat? Merge and rename to Category:United States Representatives (would then match Category:United States Senators). -- Reinyday, 05:13, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Second, we rename all subs of the above two categories to expand U.S. to United states;
- example Category:Members of the U.S. House from Kansas to Category:United States Representatives from Kansas
- example Category:U.S. Representatives from Alabama to Category:United States Representatives from Alabama
(note this is superceding current Cfd's). This will standardize all of them. ∞Who?¿? 04:44, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Are you going to do the same for Category:U.S. Senators from State? It seems silly for them not to match. -- Reinyday, 05:13, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Actually I was considering it, got distracted with something and forgot :) ∞Who?¿? 05:17, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the U.S. House of Representatives is an appropriate target for deletion once we get more of its population distributed to the state categoies. I vote we use Category:U.S. Representatives from Foo for two primary reasons. First, it matches with the Category:U.S. Senators from Foo. Second is my goal to keep category names as short as possible. Having several lines of categories at the end of an article is confusing and distracts from the article. Many of these people are also justices, governors, generals, etc. The use of U.S. is not ambiguous and is clear to almost every person literate in English. I treat this as an exception to a 'no abbreviations' guideline. Please also contribute to discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#Categories. Lou I 12:13, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- There is no good reason for an exception to the no-abbreviations convention here. Everyone has their favourite categories, but that is no reason to have them an exception to a guideline that is widely used and easily understood. -Splashtalk 22:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose: The overall cat of all members makes it easier to find someone when you only have some variant of the spelling of their name. The members should also be cat'ed by state. The name of the "by state" category should include mention of the country and house of congress because a term such as "Representatives to USA" or "U.S. Representatives from..." also describes ambassadors and trade representatives. Make a separate proposal for the expansion renaming. (SEWilco 14:59, 27 September 2005 (UTC))
- I don't really see a need for a seperate discussion, this involves the whole Rep's cat. One can easily say "Oppose first part, support second". It would also be pointless to expand all of the subcats and leave the parent abbrev. Reinyday made a suggestion for the parent above, which I support. ∞Who?¿? 23:02, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Whatever you do, expand the abbreviation. This is an oppose to any suggestion of not expanding the abbreviation. -Splashtalk 22:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- So are we fine with Category:United States Representatives for the first section? This will match the Senators cfd above. ∞Who?¿? 22:57, 27 September 2005 (UTC)