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Revenge of Meta Knight

I think in Revenge of Meta Knight as a main game

Title screen picture

I think I need to move the title screen picture, or remove it. I think the way it sandwiches the text (the infobox and picture) doesn't look to good. Anyone have any suggestions? --gakon5 (talk)

Games Order

There has been some errors about the order of the games. Great Cave Offensive is available right away and if beaten unlocks Milky Way Wishes. Beating Dyna Blade unlocks Revenge of Meta Knight. If Milky Way Wishes is beaten it unlocks The Arena. Lastly Beating The Areana unlocks the sound test. Some of this info is allready in but it just needs to be organized. Greyhead 17:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, the Great Cave Offensive must be finished to unlock Revenge of Meta Knight. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:44, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Odd, when I finished Dyna Blade it unlocked Revenge. But then their is the fact that I had allways finished Dyna Blade before the Great Cave Offensive. Dyna unlocked Revenge, and then The Great Cave unlocked Milkay Way Wishes in my game. I think I'll start up a new file and try beating The Great Cave first and see, what happens then. Greyhead 19:14, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is the order it has always been for me, although I do not know if it is definite, I would assume it is:

Unlocks: Revenge of the Meta Knight: Beat Spring Breeze and Dyna Blade

Milky Way Wishes: Beat all of the original four games, as well as Revenge of the Meta Knight

The Arena: Beat Milky Way Wishes

Sound Check: Beat the Arena.

Although I’ve never tried it, Meta Knight may only call for the completion of Dyna Blade, I will investigate.

I've played this many times, and I can definitavly say (I experimented) that this is the order:
Unlock Metaknight: Beat Dynablade (Spring breaze is not necesary)
Unlock Milky Way Wishes: Beat Great Cave Adventures
Unlock Arena: Beat Milky Way Wishes.

When you say "Beat Great Cave Offense" do you mean get to the end, or get to the end with all the treasures?

Just reach the end. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marx

Does anyone know why the final boss of Milky Way Wishes was named Marx? Is it related to Karl Marx? --Acepectif 23:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's supposed to be "Mark". At least, that's his Japanese name. No idea why they changed it, maybe it looked cooler. 208.101.136.228 14:58, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In Japan, foreign names sound very cool to them, like how Japanese names are cool to us. In America, however, giving some celestial being an average name like Mark would be awfully silly sounding. It only makes sense. 76.175.116.65 (talk) 21:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen the man a lot of times, and even his sliding sprite, but I've NEVER seen Link or Samus, and only Mario once. It should be added that they're the rarest.

You talking about the rock ability, right? I've seen Mario and Samus a few times each, but I wasn't even aware of Link. I think I've seen Mario more than Samus. DeathWeed
I don't think the Link cameo even exists. I definitely recall the Mario and Samus statues, but I never saw Link once. Maetch 18:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That makes me feel bad- I've never seen Mario. But I have seen Samus on numerous occasions.24.5.110.50 03:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kirby Super Star DS

Anyone else hear about this? I've seen screens but just want to check if anyone else has seen it.--Flawful 17:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I have, but I'm not sure if it's real. I guess it probably is, but the placeholder sprites are awfully ugly. XD --Alice2 22:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'Kirby Super Star DS', as it might have been called in the past, has been renamed Kirby Super Star Ultra for the American release, has English screen shots, release date, box art, and more. It IS real, and it DESERVES its own page. 76.175.116.65 (talk) 21:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still on track for 2007?

If this game is still coming out in 2007, it only has to Monday's left to do it. (24th, 31st) JesseMeza (talk) 20:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It can be assumed that with the release of Kirby Super Star Ultra, the games' DS remake, Nintendo may feel that it would be unnecessary to release it on Virtual Console. However, they did release Super Mario 64, so.... 76.175.116.65 (talk) 21:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Music Sample

The "music sample" you have there is from the Dreamland stage in Super Smash Bros., not from Kirby Super Star. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.16.99.113 (talk) 03:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This game was released WAAAAY before super smash bros. Yes, that song is indeed from kirby super star, and was not originally from ssb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoieTRS (talkcontribs) 17:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Read my sentence again. The version you have listed as being from Kirby Super Star here is the version created for Smash Bros., not the original song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.16.99.113 (talk) 03:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stop deleting the page

Who keeps deleting the Super Star Ultra page? Sure there isn't a truck load of information on it yet, but doesn't it deserve its own page? It keeps getting its own page and keeps getting deleted. I know it's 100% official. 76.175.116.65 (talk) 19:56, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name

I read somewhere that the name of the remake was Kirby Super Star Ultra.--75.85.111.141

That's the name of the DS remake. --76.71.214.97 (talk) 01:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Separate Article

I've found that Nightmare in Dream Land and Super Star Ultra are quite similar. Both are remakes of older Kirby games. But why is it that Nightmare in Dream Land constitutes a separate article from Kirby's Adventure, whereas Super Star Ultra had to be merged into Super Star? Is it because we don't know the full extent of the game's content? Teamrocketspy621 (talk) 16:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also feel that the two should be separate articles rather then the same. --Drkirby (talk) 00:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
AgreedGENERALZERO (talk) 02:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unless anyone can come up with a reason not to have a septate article, I will be undoing the blanking of the old KSSU page, removing the redirect, and updating it with the new info we have.--Drkirby (talk) 04:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote an "edit war" message in the KSSU talk page to avoid useless discussion in it, just in case. I really do not understand why some users don't think KSSU doesn't deserve its own article, the "Nightmare in Dream Land" reason justifies it totally.SSBMboss (talk) 04:34, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It seems the separate article for KSSU keeps getting removed, with many saying "It doesn't deserve it's own article.GENERALZERO (talk) 05:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In many cases, remakes differ significantly enough from the originals to warrant a separate page (see Contra 4 or Bionic Commando Rearmed), however this game is not out yet, and the information on it is sparse at best. I think a good rule-of-thumb for remakes should be to have their title re-direct to a "remake" or "planned remake" section in the main body of the original game until such time as it is actually released. In order for something to be notable (especially as to distinguish it from a prior incarnation), more information is needed in precisely which ways it differs, rather than high-level discussion or speculation about announced new features. My opinion is that the solution to this debate would be to wait until there is more than a paragraph or two to say about the remake before splitting it into its own article. Once there is more information (in the form of concrete examples, screenshots, reviews, etc), I think that a new article would speak for itself. Walkeraj 18:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, for now let's have the articles merged, but when the release is approaching, we can give it a separate article, because by then more information will be revealed. 76.175.116.65 (talk) 18:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey for seprating the articles

I believe that Kirby Super Star Ultra has enough new content to warrant its own new article, so I am starting this survey on behalf of myself and other who wish to discuss opinions on this and why or why not it should or shouldn't get its own article

Please clearly state your position for the separating of the articles *Support to give Kirby Super Star Ultra its own article, or *Oppose to keep it combined, then sign your comment.

Because polling is no substitute for talking about it, please explain your reasons.

  • Support With the 2 new sub games added (Along with 3 new mini games) updated graphics, added functionality added to the old sub games, such as bottom screen support and two player multiplayer added to Gourmet Race, are ground enough to justify the game to get its own article. In not merely a straight port, and saying that there is not enough new content to have its own article is comparable to saying Kirby's Adventure and Kirby: Nightmare in dreamland doesn't deserve to be separate (It adds updated Graphics, 1 new mode, and 3 new mini games, less then Kirby Super Star Ultra adds), or FE3 should be merged with the FF1 article, since all it does is update the graphics and adds a new chapter to the story.

Also, the large amount of content is lost between merging and making its own article, as exampled below.

--Drkirby (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support I support a separate article. Like the SNES article, they explain the story of each sub-game, so with new games added, we put the stories for the "Revenge Of The King" and "Meta Knight Ultra" in the article.GENERALZERO (talk) 18:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I support the existence of the Kirby Super Star Ultra article 100%. Here's one reason why: Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland has its own article. Why doesn't this game have it's own article then? It has more content than the original Super Star than Nightmare in Dreamland did with Adventure.--76.173.139.63 (talk) 21:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I'm pretty sure I started this whole thing by saying that Nightmare in Dream Land, which is also a remake, warrants a separate article. I propose that Super Star Ultra should get the same treatment. Teamrocketspy621 (talk) 01:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support' - It is real. It's annoying how the article keeps getting merged, it deserves it's own page.
  • Total support - This remake totally deserves its own article. It's so obvious it's making my wiki-eyes bleed of hexadecimal Red color. The KNDL example makes it SO CLEAR. (now I'm wondering if somebody will think something like "Oh, let's make a "this article should be merged in to K's Adv, lol"", this would be pretty retarded) Seriously, the article was just fine as it was, information box, the superb, new, and colorful box art, well, just, let that article live. SSBMboss (talk) 08:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Like everyone else is saying, Nightmare in Dream Land has it's own article, so this should too. Y'know, I don't see anybody having said they oppose it. And this poll started 2 weeks ago. I think it should be put back now. ~m190049 (talk) 21:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I put it back up. And A Link to the Past hasn't been pissing us off for a long while. :-) --76.173.139.63 (talk) 14:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      1. Yeah, I can't say that there's a lot of good faith in not notifying someone involved in the discussion that a vote is taking place. And I can't say that votes don't suck.
      2. Care to explain why this article needs to be separate? A semi-remake with two paragraphs about it does not need its own article. There's never been any assertion that the article needs to exist, merely that these people WANT it to.
      3. "This article does or is this" is not a rationale to do or be what it is. Maybe it should be merged too? Or maybe it simply has enough content to warrant it? Unlike KSSU, it has a new engine built from the ground-up - this is a case of an 8-bit game becoming a 32-bit game versus a 32-bit game becoming a 32-bit game again. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It has new sub-games. This means NEW storylines.--76.173.139.63 (talk) 00:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Articles don't become articles because they "deserve" to be. This article can't have a gameplay section because it's the same gameplay as KSS. It can't mention the stories from KSS or describe the mini-games from KSS except for additions or changes. It can't mention any returning music or sound since it's already in the KSS article. All this article CAN have is "changes", new plots, development, and reception. If it doesn't need to be separate from the original game, it shouldn't be separate. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It might be better to wait until it's been out for some time, that way we know more about it so we can write enough to make a whole new article. 76.175.116.65 (talk) 19:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kirby Super Star Ultra: Two new Arena modes

What does that mean?--76.173.139.63 (talk) 04:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC) When was this ever confirmed? Should we just remove that from the article? 76.175.116.65 (talk) 19:25, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it was. In Nintendo Power's article, they stated the new Modea, but not exactly what they were.GENERALZERO (talk) 00:46, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should we add the press event?

Do you think its justifiable to add the press event done for Kirby Super Star Ultra, along with a picture of one of the Kirby Flogos?

Link to an article about the press event: http://www.wiimedia.com/news/view/kirby_flies_over_alabama_in_fluffy_pink_clouds/

--65.2.92.37 (talk) 03:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]