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ClockworkTroll 13:50, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks - and a question

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Thanks for your welcome note. Much appreciated. A question: I have started off a number of articles including British Seafarers' Union, National Union of Seamen and Amalgamated Marine Workers' Union. This was probably a little ambitious for a newbie, but I think they will develop well and will make a contribution. My question is, why don't they show up when I type them into the search box? Mattley 16:21, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi, Mattley. Ambition is a good thing. After all, if you find that you get in over your head, there is always somebody around that is willing to help. As for your new articles, they don't appear in the search because the search (except for the first character) is case-sensitive. I would recommentd that you do one of two things:
  1. Create a new redirect page at (for example) Amalgamated marine workers union that points to Amalgamated Marine Workers' Union. (That way, both listings are perfectly good, so this is probably the best option)
  2. Click the "move" tab at the top of the article, and relist it under a title that would make it more searchable.
Hope that helps, and thank you for your contributions!

British Trade Unions

Hi Steinsky. Thanks for adding the categories bit to National Union of Ship's Stewards and Amalgamated Marine Workers' Union. I just wondered, did they seem okay to you? I'm new at this and whilst I've read and partially digested the rules I'm still nervous that I'm screwing up the whole thing. I created those two, by the way, though apparently I wasn't signed in at the time. Cheers, Mattley

The articles look good, one possible addition would be references if you have any.. Joe D (t) 17:12, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Thanks. I do indeed have some and I will build them in. On another topic, I note you have done some stuff on Bristol Harbour. I'd like to contribute some articles on the Port of Southampton and the Port of Glasgow. Do you think it would be worth creating a category of 'Ports and harbours of Great Britain and Ireland' or some such? It could be a nice series. All the best, Mattley 17:20, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
That's a good idea, if you create the category I'll help populate it. I was in So'ton on Friday and am currently preparing photos of the port etc for wikipedia.

You were? Cool. Okay. Where were you planning to put the photos? I don't want to tread on your toes or duplicate work if you already had something planned. On the other hands, ports seem poorly covered and I'd be happy to make a start redressing that. My interest is mainly historical, however, and would have a hard time sustaining an article past 1930. If you have stuff on Southampton's more recent history, many that wouldn't be a big problem. Cheers, Mattley 18:08, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I didn't have any plans to write about the docks, I was just adding photos to River Itchen, River Test and Southampton Water. These are the photos of the docks, which may be of use for illustrating your article:
Soton river test docks 01.jpg
Image:Soton docks 01.jpg
Joe D (t) 18:13, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Exceptional Newcomer Award

I, ClockworkTroll, award you the Exceptional Newcomer Award for displaying exceptional enthusiasm, skill, and boldness beyond your experience

I've been looking over your articles, and they definitely show promise beyond your experience here at Wikipedia! Therefore I, ClockworkTroll, am proud to award you with the Exceptional Newcomer Award. ClockworkTroll 17:24, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thesis topic

I note that on your user page you indicate that you're reading for a Ph.D. May I ask what your thesis topic is? Psychonaut 22:44, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Sure. A title isn't finalised yet but it will cover strike action and trade union development amongst merchant seamen in Southampton and Glasgow from 1910 to 1926. It will be the first full-length study of the British Seafarers' Union and Amalgamated Marine Workers' Union. It will also differ quite a bit from most 'trade union' histories in that it will emphasise the role played by ordinary seafarers in strike action and the tensions existing between union officials and rank and file activists.
I could go on...
Incidentally, your username seems familiar. Do you contribute to SPGB-related forums by any chance? Mattley 22:54, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't contribute much, but I try to read them when I get the chance. And you? Psychonaut 21:57, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

History of British Newspapers

How could we have omitted the Daily Herald? Thanks for rectifying that - I remember it well when I was a young lad! Bruce, aka Agendum | Talk 23:27, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Strathkelvin People's Independent Labour Party

Hi there Mattley. Got your comments about the article. Would love to add what you request, but that seems a bit unclear just now. They have only just announced their formation, so that might become clearer soon - so until then I cannot really add anything about what they want to contest.

Sorry about that. I think it will need to be a work in progress.

Big Jim

Fair enough. It was a bit of an excuse to introduce myself, in a way. I've come across your name in a few of the articles I've looked at or made edits to. You might be interested in what I've added at Manny Shinwell.

Hi again Mattley. Looked at the Manny Shinwell article. It's looking in pretty good shape these days - nice work. What sort of areas are you interested in working on Wikidpedia then?

I've been nominated

I just wanted to drop you a quick note to say that I've been nominated for adminship. Since you've been unfortunate enough to have dealings with me, I thought you might want to see what was going on there: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/ClockworkTroll.

Many thanks, ClockworkTroll 07:44, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

A quick note to say thanks

I just wanted to drop you a quick note to thank you for your support in my request for adminship. It was certainly a wild ride, and I really appreciate you taking some time out to contribute. ClockworkSoul 16:30, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Farmers' Union of Wales

(Farmers' rather than Farmers! My bad, corrected.)
I was guided by a few things in renaming the article:

  • I don't believe I've yet seen a bilingual organizational title in Wikipedia, even in cases where a group has names in two languages on an equal footing.
  • At the en. wikipedia, English should take precedence if they're at least equal, just as Welsh would rule at cy.wikipedia.org.
  • On the FUW website, FUW also seems to take precedence - it's the core of the logo used on both the English and Welsh sides
  • Does the organization literally call itself "Farmers' Union of Wales / Undeb Amaethwyr Cymru" or some form including both names at once with any frequency in either language? If not, it probably shouldn't be the title.

So that's what I was thinking. Of course, better judgement, evidence and time might always show me wrong... Samaritan 12:01, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Communism Talk page

Sorry for the ? mark mess. Maybe it was me when I added the skyscraper paragraph. I certainly did not do it consciously. My apologies. Luis rib 21:04, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

vandalism

Sorry, as I tried to put your picture back, you had already done it Lectonar 10:26, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Mattley, thank you for reverting the horrible vandalism on my talk page. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 20:25, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

Move !!

You have been on Wikipedia long enough. You ought to know the difference between a move and a copy-and-paste. C&p loses the history and should be avoided wherever possible. A move preserves edit history - and is simpler to execute! (Re panty trust - not important in that case - but it is the principle of the thing.) -- RHaworth 18:07:34, 2005-09-10 (UTC)

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