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Welcome back

Hope you had a nice vacation. Now get back to work! Cheers, -Willmcw 19:45, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

What he said. Shem(talk) 19:49, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Texas template

I appologize ahead for clogging up your talk page with this.

Recently, User:Ed g2s keeps on changing the Texas template to a plain version and won't explain why. I need you guys to support me to keep the Texas template that has been active.

This is the Texas template that has been active, before that user erased it, see below:


I want you guys to have some input and decide which one is best for Texas. Like I said, I support the colorful template, but Ed g2s has been reverting it without explaination and has threatened to block me if I revert again to the colorful one. I think the colorful one is more aesthetic looking. Ed g2s doesn't seem to think so and keeps on erasing it to a plain version. Also, he's not even from Texas, he's from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Let's have a vote on this on Template talk:Texas. Thank you for everyone's time. – UH Collegian 19:35, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Uncle Ed and Price-Anderson Mediation

It appears, from Ed Poor's discussion page, that he believes he is being booted from being a sysop and admin. This leaves us with no Mediator for Price-Anderson.

By [1], the numbers have changed for Price-Anderson - coverage for facilities and activities licensed before 2026, required primary insurance to $300 million each, and secondary assessments to $95.8 million each. These numbers should go into the article - but I hesitate to start the edit-warring again. Katefan0 and Woohookitty, advice? Simesa 20:23, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply - I'll support whatever you do. In PAA I made the changes to the numbers only, and to add a citation - surprisingly, there's been no overnight action in PAA, nuclear power or Energy Policy Act of 2005. Simesa 10:28, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Crawfish

Well, Swedes are sometimes surprised that Dixies and Cajuns eat crawfish as well :). There is an old tradition of eating crawfish in Europe, but it is in Sweden that the eating takes enormous proportions.--Wiglaf 07:32, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. --Briangotts (talk) 13:44, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfC work

If I read all the policies under Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines, do you feel I have the insight and tact to participate in an RfC? Simesa 10:31, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Expenditures of Energy Policy Act of 2005 by Industry

Katefan0, do we have solid numbers for any of the below?

Simesa 01:36, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply in Energy Policy Act of 2005 - I'm going to have to get you a real barnstar! Simesa 13:24, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Going Camping

I'm taking my daughter camping with Mensa over this weekend, so don't be surprised if there's a flurry of edits late Sunday night (although I hope not!). Simesa 13:24, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Energy Policy Act of 2005

Hi, I definately agree with you in that it wouldn't be prudent to fit all of Congress'es quotes, and although I disagree in that they are all relevant(especially Stabenow considering the Great Lakes slant drilling issue), transwikiing to Wikiquotes is a good idea. However, I've never edited there, and couldn't find a great place to put quotes on the subject. The bill seemed a little too mundane for the things being talked about in the politics section. I'd appreciate your advice, thanks in advance. Karmafist 20:00, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha. I'll try to get around to it eventually, the rules of this place almost seem irrelevant at times. Have fun on your vacation! Karmafist 17:29, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Texas history

Sorry about posting this on your userpage, but I'm afraid of starting a war on the Rangers talk page. Hope this is alright.

I glanced at your page and saw that you are a hedonist and Washington political reporter. Good for you.

I hope I didn't give you the wrong impression - I am an anglo. But like a lot of Texans, much of my extended family is Chicano. Honestly, my thinking on this issue wouldn't be any different if I didn't have this family. It's just a very nasty and sensitive part of history, and one that a lot of people would rather not think about.

I am going to be accused of being a revisionist, and perhaps in some sense of the word I am. The reason that I am talking to you is that I have no currency in journalism, and I am leaving town and hopefully the wikipedia for a little while and won't be able to defend my edits.

So, here goes. The article in its present form (and the official [DPS page]) shows the Rangers much in the same light that 'Birth of a Nation' depicts the Aryan Knights. I know that sounds extreme, and I don't usually make statements like that, but this can be backed up (I swear I'm not a crank). There was an undocumented war in 1911 near the border. The Rangers functioned as a lynch mob during this period. Rangers were essentially political appointees, given comissions in return for political favors. There are photographs of Rangers posing with one foot on bodies of murdered chicanos. They waged a terror campaign, sactioned by the governor. Families of murdered men never returned to land they fled in terror, and this land was then procured by wealthy connected families (note that these exiled families in many cases had lived on this land since the 18th century, hence the difference between the terms Tejano and Mexican). This was only a few generations ago: grandfathers remember talk of lost husbands and homes. This is still very current to a lot of Chicanos living in Texas. And none of this is really in dispute.

Some sources and leads:

Revolution in Texas: How a Forgotten Rebellion and Its Bloody Suppression Turned Mexicans Into Americans by Benjamin H. Johnson, Yale University Press

The Texas Rangers And The Mexican Revolution: The Bloodiest Decade, 1910-1920 by Charles H. Harris III, Louis R. Sadler, New Mexico University Press

In summary: A paragraph probably won't cut it. It would reflect badly on the wikipedia community if this article reached feature status without addressing this history. Again, apologies for all this crap on your talkpage, but you seem so totally qualified to tackle this, both as a journalist and UT alum. (Please feel free to cut and paste this back to my talkpage if you wish.)--demonburrito 11:03, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Homosexuality

Tell me, what is so special about homosexuality over zoophilia that exempts it from being identified as a paraphilia? If homosexuality is a sexual orientation, then surely all paraphilias based on the characteristics of the attractile are sexual orientations?

Clay Aiken

Don't worry--it isn't some coordinated campaign. A Toronto on-line paper copied the Wikipedia entry pretty much word for word in a promo for Thursday's concert, which has led to some discussion on the fan boards. Some attempted deletes are inevitable. It'll pass. I think it would help if you didn't think of these folks as "the enemy"--just folks who don't agree with the paragraph being there, and aren't familiar with how Wikipedia works. And why am I not here reverting? Because I'm over there trying to explain how Wikipedia works, so maybe there'll be fewer problems over here. -Jmh123 22:24, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I got an interesting communication today, relating to the deletions that led to the edit war. It reinforces what I'm trying to say about this negative attitude towards those who delete that paragraph:

I just wanted to let you know that on that Wikipedia thing - I was the anonymous editor that kept deleting the Gay reference.
HONESTLY I was not trying to cause problems - I just did not have a clue how the thing worked. I had added the last 2 paragraphs about Clay going to Banda Aceh and Uganda, and testifying in congress at several times during the prior months and they just left them - so I didn't realize that you were supposed to talk to anyone about it first.
Heck - I stole the code for the Discography and updated the whole end part anonymously - no problem.
Well - by the time that I figured out what was going on - I was totally embarassed that they thought that I was trying to create trouble - so I just stayed out - LOL.
Thank You for following through on it when I didn't.

Referring to these edits as vandalism, or saying things like "here we go again," IMO, is making unkind assumptions. Why assume that everyone knows how this very complex site works, or assume that an edit to that paragraph is, prima facie, an attack? As you can see by this woman's comments, she was intimidated out of contributing to Wikipedia further by the vehemence of the reaction to her edits. -Jmh123 01:38, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rfa

Man, do you ever do easy jobs on here? :-) GluttonForPunishment should be your name. --Woohookitty 04:11, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hubberts Peak

Katefan0, would you consider looking over Hubbert peak theory as much as I would personally like to see the end of cheap oil, this page is a pure and unadulterated tinfoil hat cult classic masquerading as a serious bit on a (somewhat) serious site. Note - I am asking you for help, think of how much that hurts, and then go have a swing will ya? Benjamin Gatti

Pardon me for butting in - I saw the comment. The "Peak oil" folks are hardcore believers indeed (referring to no one specifically). Often, in my experience, they also have a survivalist or apocalyptic orientation. I encourage anyone with the interest and fortitude to try to bring their articles towards neutral. Cheers, -Willmcw 21:06, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
Well, since Katefan0's on vacation, and since I've read a bit about the topic - I'm taking the plunge into (or would that be "past"?) the peak problem. Johntex 21:37, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Gentlemen, I think I will appreciate all the help I can get on this one! I haven't quite left yet (physically anyway -- that'll be Monday morning), but this one is going to require some boning up on that I won't have time for before I leave, I fear. See you over there when I get back. · Katefan0(scribble) 21:43, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Inichorechurch.jpg

Hi, the image Image:Inichorechurch.jpg you posted a long, long time ago doesn't seem to have information on its source and license. Would you like to fix this? Thanks! –Mysid (talk) 07:26, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Fun

Recreation, sand, sun, surf, leisure, relaxation, tourism, jungle, rain forest. Do your research. -Willmcw 08:34, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Have a great time on the volcano. Take lots of pictures, but remember - no original research! -Willmcw 03:59, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back

I have nominated you for adminship, cheers. Dragons flight 17:35, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Texas annexation: 4 vs 5

Reading the joint resolution you mentioned in Austin's talk page, it looks like the condition is to allow up to four new states "in addition to said State of Texas". Perhaps that's what you meant, but when people are saying "split into five" I think they mean total. Deh 21:33, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Why We're All Here?

Lost cause. It's not why he's here. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:53, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I presume Hipocrite is referring to your comments for BigDaddy. I don't know what to do about that fellow. He initiated an e-mail conversation with me; not uncivil at all but his mindframe is such that I don't think he'll ever be able to properly work with people on this project. I've never started an RfC (and don't know if one has been started for him) but it might be needed here. Marskell 17:06, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You may both be right. But, I wanted to try to steer the conversation toward article content instead of mudslinging. He can always ignore the rejoinder, but at least it's been made. · Katefan0(scribble) 17:27, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
Don't get too attached. I really felt that progress was being made, but then I somehow got added to the list, and devolution happened. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:39, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
QED. Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:02, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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