Talk:History of Portugal

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POV

The first lines are an obvious POV!

I Agree. I have always agreed. It's time to change it. I'm on it. I think. The Ogre 14:32, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Changed it already. Now it just states Portugal's ancient origin in the Early Middle Ages and mentions its importance and Empire in the Ages of Discovery. The Ogre 14:25, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

WWI

I didn't know that Portugal participated WWI. What was the outcome for Portugal? ---

  • Portugal has allways cared for its allies. The country has a long relation with England, that had helped mantain Portugal independence due to Spanish/ Castillian wishes to control Portugal. Just like in the case of Iraq, when the country helped the US. though most disagreed with the motives of that. Portugal also did not had a motive not to accept the block made by France to England. The country was invaded, and part of the territory is still ruled by Spain (Olivença), and England hadnt help in fact, it made things worse. Normally, Alies don't care much about Portugal. LOL. Real gains to Portugal being in the WWI there werent any. -Pedro 17:24, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • That's not completly true... Although the British asked for the German ships in Portuguese ports to be arrested, the main reason that forced Portugal to participate was not the obsolete alliance with the British, that the Republicans despised and neglected, mainly due to the question of the Pink Map, but the German threat to the Portuguese possessions in Africa, mainly in Mozambique from the German Tanzania that started even before the declaration of War from Portugal. The war devastated the Portuguese economy and the only thing Portugal really achieved was a small piece of land in the border between Mozambique and Tanzania.Afonso Silva 23:23, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mormuz

Is Mormuz Ormuz?

Integrating a new series

The reforms of Pombal

In an article on the history of Portugal there is practically no mention of the Marquis of Pombal, one of the most influential figures in all Portuguese history! There's only a small mention of his reforms in the timeline, and no context is given. Does anyone else have a problem with this? --Rhesusman 01:00, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lacunae are easily fixed. Just condense the article on Sebastião de Melo, Marquis of Pombal, maybe even improving the original, to a suitable paragraph in the context of the whole history of Portugal, give it a subsection heading like the one above, and follow the heading with
Main article: Sebastião de Melo, Marquis of Pombal. Presto!--Wetman 01:45, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see if I can do it! I've never actually messed with content in an article before, feel free to change it if I screw up. ----Rhesusman 06:32, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'd open up the Pombal entry, keep eliminating extraneous detail, keeping the broad history of Portugal in mind and finally enter the edited distillation into History of Portugal. (BtW, mind you don't inadvertently Save the reduced version at Pombal!) --Wetman 04:41, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I made the addition, but I'm not sure if I kept too much of the original article's information. The section is rather longish, but I think that Pombal was pretty important. Do I need to do anything else to show that I'm not plagiarizing? I included a reference to the main article. Feel free to fix anything you think needs it. --Rhesusman 07:13, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

History of the Democratic Portugal

Several topics on Portuguese history from 1974 until the present are featured in the Legislative elections in Portugal series. If anyone can fit that into the article it would be good. Afonso Silva 23:24, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Template

What do you think of the template?--Gameiro 02:44, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Improvement drive

The article on John III of Portugal is currently nominated to be improved by Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. Support the article with your vote or comment on the nomination.--Fenice 09:13, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Map of Portuguese Empire

I think a World Map of Portuguese colonial posessions throughout history is needed in Portuguese Empire! Dont' you agree? The Ogre 14:33, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Estado Novo

Does someone with interrest in the Estado Novo period clean that section. I copy pasted it in here from Portugal article, it seems a copy paste from a Blog, and is extremelly POV and borring! --Pedro 19:14, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I didnt delete it because there's useful info that can be used when cleaned. --Pedro 01:11, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I made a start, condensing it and removing sarcasm and extravagance. --Wetman 01:36, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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