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Birmingham is home to three professional football (soccer) teams: Aston Villa, Birmingham City and West Bromwich Albion.

My 1995 Birmingham A-Z marks the Birmingham-Sandwell boundary as passing just east of The Hawthorns, putting the Baggies just outside the formal limits of Birmingham. Is this still the case? Is Birmingham really home to WBA, or do they belong to the Black Country? --rbrwr

Speaking of boundaries, isn't Wolverhampton in the Black Country, thus making 'Birmingham along with the neighbo[u]ring city of Wolverhampton and the Black Country' a tautologous phrasing? majabl


I hate to point this out but Wolverhampton is a city in it's own right, and West Bromwich is a town in it's own right, and neither are a part of Birmingham. Thus the Wolverhampton Wanderers and West Bromwich albion links dont belong here. G-Man 17:27 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

That's true, though to be fair it did say (my emphasis): "Birmingham and its surrounding area is home to five... " (and it still did after you'd taken Wolves, Baggies and Walsall out). --rbrwr

Re: more canals more parkland and more trees etc.

The usual litany goes something like: "more canals than Venice, more parks than Paris, more trees per head of population than Milton Keynes; and the Number 50 is the most regular bus route in Europe".

It is easily extended thus: "more Big Issue sellers than Dundee, more traffic circles than New York City, more wrongly-convicted IRA bombers than Guildford".

I was the one that originally included the inevitable Venice comment, at the time I found a webpage that some guy with plenty of time has put together which 'proved' the statement from OS maps... sadly it seems to have disappeared from google so I can't add it as a source. :( Pete 08:51, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
No sooner do I type that than think of a better search term and get a hit on the first page. The page was this one: [1] Pete 08:54, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)

The following paragraph is not NPOV but contains elements that could be put back in the article rephrased. -- Sam 13:05, 21 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Birmingham people, or "Brummies"", are generally hard working with an unusual sense of humour that is quite unique, it is often said that "you can always tell a Brummie, but you cant tell him much".

I dont think sub-headings are surposed to be used for short sentences, IMO there should be at least two paragraphs for something to justify having it's own sub-heading. It just makes the article look looks messy and unreadable. G-Man 00:20, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

At my screen resolution this offering:

Transport

Birmingham is well served by a number of transport modes:

Road: Birmingham is connected to London and the south, and the north-east of England and to Scotland by the M6 motorway. The M40 also connects Birmingham to London and to Oxford. The M5 motorway connects Birmingham to the south-west of England. The M42 motorway connects Birmingham to the East Midlands.

Rail: A plethora of railway lines from all over the UK go into Birmingham, which is a central hub of the rail network. Most of which converge in Birmingham New Street station from where regular train services to all the major cities in the UK including London can be caught. Trains to London can also be caught at Birmingham Snow Hill station, as can trams to Wolverhampton on the Midland Metro.

Air: Birmingham is served by Birmingham International Airport, which has flights to all over Europe and to New York.

Water: Although it has no major river (the Rea is little more than a culverted stream, and the Tame, which only passes through the northern suburbs, is not navigable), Birmingham is at the hub of the country's canal network. Major canals including the Grand Union Canal, the Birmingham and Worcester Canal, and the Birmingham and Fazeley Canal go into Birmingham.

looks better than the current state of the article as I write, on account of the fact that exchange subsection is quite short

Transport

Birmingham is well served by a number of transport modes:

Road

Birmingham is connected to London and the south, and the north-east of England and to Scotland by the M6 motorway. The M40 also connects Birmingham to London and to Oxford. The M5 motorway connects Birmingham to the south-west of England. The M42 motorway connects Birmingham to the East Midlands.

Rail

A plethora of railway lines from all over the UK go into Birmingham, which is a central hub of the rail network. Most of which converge in Birmingham New Street station from where regular train services to all the major cities in the UK including London can be caught. Trains to London can also be caught at Birmingham Snow Hill station, as can trams to Wolverhampton on the Midland Metro.

Air

Birmingham is served by Birmingham International Airport, which has flights to all over Europe and to New York.

Water

Although it has no major river (the Rea is little more than a culverted stream, and the Tame, which only passes through the northern suburbs, is not navigable), Birmingham is at the hub of the country's canal network. Major canals including the Grand Union Canal, the Birmingham and Worcester Canal, and the Birmingham and Fazeley Canal go into Birmingham.

Pete 00:24, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)


This is stupid. Why have an edit war about Birmingham. I am going to protect the page to stop this for this evening. Sorry but this has to be done.

I have no idea why my original creation of subheadings has been repeatedly (I hesitatte to say vandalised, but it's getting that way) deleted, other than what appears to be one person's personal opinion and another's individual PC configuration. Andy Mabbett 23:30, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Right. I've protected it. You are both sensible contributors so this is really silly. I'm leaving it protected overnight and will attempt ACAS tomorrow. Secretlondon 23:33, Nov 26, 2003 (UTC)