Talk:Body piercing

What the hell is a Jacob's Ladder? It's under the Genital Piercing section. I followed the link and all it says is that it "is also a type of body piercing". That sure helps. </sarcasm> If anyone knows, drop a note on my talk page or i'll just watch this page. DryGrain 18:43, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I think a Jacobs ladder is when you get lots of piercing up the shaft of the penis. So the jewellry sort of looks like rungs on a ladder. Irresponsible 15:52, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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let's be a bit more NPOV and point out that this sort of thing is also considered to be mutilation. compare & contrast with anorexia. -- Tarquin

Let's not. Body piercing is not a disease. That is really insulting both to people who are pierced and to anorexia sufferers. - Montréalais

I don't know if this subject has ever been researched but there are personality disorders that present as a self mutilation behaviours. Body piercing _in some cases_ can be a manifestation of this disorder.
Kpjas

Eating peanuts can be associated with personality disorders, too, but nobody's going to draw parallels between anorexia and peanuts in peanut. - montréalais

Agreed. An article on self-harming might appropriately mention that body piercing is one way this disorder can manifest itself. Vicki Rosenzweig 16:42 Aug 19, 2002 (PDT)

so what your saying is that someone like me, with 6 piercings _in total_ possibly/probably self-harms? right then............. and also its not mutilation, unless the person piercing does it incorrectly, then you may have a 'strange/mutilated' body part where you had to take out a bad piercing Selphie 10:50, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Cleanup

OK, somebody who understands this subject needs to cleanup "Piercing in industrialized civilizations". This section is so unencyclopedic I don't know where to start. I added the cleanup tag to alert others. — Stevie is the man! ^{Talk | Contrib} 15:15, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Okay, it should be better now. --Julie-Anne Driver 02:11, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ummm, I'm not sure. I still get the weird sensation that somebody is winking at me as I read the text. It just doesn't read as encyclopedic. — Stevie is the man! ^{Talk | Contrib} 02:44, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Related media

I removed the following links from the article:

• Image:Body Modification Code of Ethics.pdf
• Image:Required Legal Forms And Aftercare Sheets.pdf Required legal forms and aftercare sheets for body piercing
• Image:Sizing Chart.jpg For sizing gloves and measuring jewelry gauge and size
• Image:Piercing Class Difficulty and Pricing.pdf General classification of body piercing class, difficulty, and pricing guidelines.
• Image:Needles.pdf Examples of different kinds of needles used for body piercing, and a few examples of how to dispose of them.
• Image:Body Piercing Aftercare and Healing.pdf Some healing related issues that relate to body piercing
• Image:How to Test Jewelry.pdf
• Image:Gauge Chart.pdf Chart comparing all known wire gauges that may be encountered when making jewelry

Among my reasons for removing these are

1. Wikipedia isn't a how-to guide,
2. PDF isn't the right format for whatever encyclopedic information can be found in these.

dbenbenn | talk 21:31, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've removed them again, and listed all but Image:Gauge Chart.pdf on WP:IFD. dbenbenn | talk 02:07, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup

I've cleaned up the article, rearranged and added new sections and information. I've also removed the following:

"Genital piercings are some of the most common, and some piercers report that the Prince Albert piercing is the most popular of all, for females the most popular genital piercing is the vertical hood in which navel jewelry is often worn, ideally the piercing is placed so the lower part of the navel curve rests next to the clitoris. Many wearers of genital piercings keep their jewelry in during sexual activities, but others find it uncomfortable. It depends to a large degree on the design of the jewelry, the kind of genital piercing, and the type of sexual activity."

I'd like to see some sources to back up these claims.

Exploding Boy 22:56, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

Re: image "pierced girl"

I removed this for two reasons: first, the image summary was inappropriate (if the subject was indeed a "girl" then she shouldn't have been pierced by any reputable piercer to begin with; otherwise she should be called what she is: a woman). Second, the photo was woefully inadequate. I'm sure that there must be dozens, if not hundreds, of Wikipedians who sport piercings. I feel quite confident that we can get some clear photos of piercings that are actually useful. Exploding Boy 16:46, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

I respect your meaning. In my opinion it is/was a nice example showing three different types of piercings. My english is not the best, of course someone should be old enough to be pierced. I also call 20-year-old women 'girls'. (Actually I was not aware there is an "age border", because there also isn't one by the word 'girlfriend', I think) - but how I said: my english is not the best, but I'm able to learn :-). --Avatar-en 17:40, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I say, feel free to replace with a better photo and caption. But in the meantime, I have reinstated the image, which is the only real image of actual piercings that the article has. Earpol 21:21, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gauging

is there a place on wikipedia that describes the gauging of sizes of piercings? Kingturtle 01:15, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Doesn't look like. Why don't you add a section on it to the article? Ø 01:21, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Because I don't know how the gauging works, and where the gauging numbers came from. Kingturtle 01:38, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Well the gauging is simple enough. Smaller numbers indicate larger sizes. Sizes between 16 to 10 are common, 16 being the smallest in that range and 10 being the largest. Smaller sizes range down to 18 and 20 in my experience---never seen smaller. Large sizes can go up to 00---I don't think there's a triple 0 yet anyway. As to where they originated, who can say?

16:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

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