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Welcome!

Hello, MeegsC, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} after the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  Wcm2010 21:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kites

Nice job improving Whistling Kite. Sabine's Sunbird talk 09:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brown Rock Chat

Thanks for nominating Brown Rock Chat... how did you come across it? I just made it barely 3 days back! Dunno what was the DYK factoid - am going there to see! But thanks!mukerjee (talk) 07:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you found it... For the DYK factoid - this could also be something:
"Is a good mimic, has been recorded imitating to perfection the songs of Yellow-eyed Babbler, Tickell's Blue Flycatcher, and Smaller Grey Cuckoo-Shrike"? This may be be "interesting" - but so is as the fact that it nests in inhabited houses ... But then both mimic-ing and nesting in rafters also happen to some other species. Hope it makes it!
Why don't you change your profile (under preferences) so that the "talk" page shows up? That way people you interact with don't have to hunt for it as much... Thanks again!mukerjee (talk) 09:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moving awards, etc.

Can I move a DYK notice from my talk page to my user page? If so, how? MeegsC | Talk 12:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC) {{helpme}}[reply]

Yes, you can. The easiest way is to use your browser's cut-and-paste feature to cut the markup out of your user talk page and to paste the same markup into your userpage. Hope that helps! --ais523 13:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

No worries

Thanks for the compliments to birds. I already have Whistling Kite on my watchlist but I wouldn't worry too much, species articles don't tend to attract too much attention form miscreants. It's bird that I'm reverting three times a day - what a vandal-fest. Have a good time in Greece - take lots of pictures! We need pictures! Sabine's Sunbird talk 00:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brown Rock Chat

Power be to you !!! Thanks! mukerjee (talk) 13:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reindeer

Hi MeegsC. Thanks for your mention of Reindeer hunting in Greenland at DKY. Much appreciated. If you have any suggestions for article improvement, it would also be appreciated. Regards. -- Fyslee/talk 20:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

William Green (rifleman)

Thanks for all your recent nominations! --howcheng {chat} 03:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
In light of you nominating my article on Victor Gauntlett for Did You Know..., I thought I would award you The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar. Best Regards, - Trident13 20:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for Nomination

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
In light of you nominating my article on Joe Baksi for Did You Know..., I'd like to show my appreciation by this award. Thanks again, - Work permit 16 May 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for nominating Joe Baksi on DYK. It's my first article created from scratch, your endorsement means a lot to me.--Work permit 02:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Taxoboxes

Thanks for pointing that out. I've updated Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds (genus taxobox example) Smallweed 09:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wing bones

I found a public domain image and just cleaned it up a bit. Hope this will serve your purpose. Shyamal 15:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you could edit the image and add lines and numbers. It may also be converted to vector format (SVG) in due course. Shyamal 00:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alternately I could label up an image and upload it soon. Shyamal 03:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Let me know if you need any modification to this one. Shyamal 15:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading images

It's a matter of personal preference, as far as I am concerned. It is probably better to upload them onto the Commons, be sure to follow the conventions there and at least tag the image with a category. It's easier to upload images onto Wikipedia directly, and someone will eventually load it onto the commons. Once you've uploaded someone else's image that you have permission for you'll need to email the permission you've obtained for that image to Wikipedia as spelled out in Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission#When permission is confirmed (unless they are prepared to upload it themelsves). A bit of a trial for the people kind enough to give us permission but I guess its their to protect them.

Did you have a good time in Greece? Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aw gee thanks....

Now to get this #$@*$*$ article to FAC but we're just waiting for Clayoquot to get back from the library...cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 09:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meidias Painter

Thank you for the nomination. It's always gratifying to know my writing is being read. The hook seems fine to me, hope it's successful. Twospoonfuls 10:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


DYK list

Yes, you do qualify for the list. Excellent work. Keep it up. Anonymous Dissident Utter 13:36, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page numbers in reference

I'll admit they are not an obligation, but I find it highly revealing that a majority of articles that can do include page numbers in the current FA log. I don't request something like Cameroon or Mom and Dad (version before I combined identical refs), both of which are ridiculous (each in their own way). Another option is a "first ref abbreviated" system as for Samuel Adams (which I also used for a few paper refs in Verbascum thapsus), although I've found I liked that system less, because you have to hunt the original citations in preceding footnotes. Circeus 15:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I recently adjusted International Phonetic Alphabet to a similar mixed style (with abbreviated titles, and content notes), Quatermass II is another example of what Raven will probably look like, with both full and abbreviated references. For a FA with books, but no page number, see École Polytechnique massacre. For one with the (IMHO horrendous, but probably useful here because there are so many of them) "linked footnotes," see Conatus.
Book parts are more reasonable to cite without page numbers, and are accommodated by {{cite book}}, although multiple chapters from the same book might be best abbreviated as Last, First, "Chapter", in Editor, page numbers. You could optionally use the book title with page numbers in the abbreviated form to bypass author. Circeus 15:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hey thanks

Haliaster

The move from Haliaster to Haliastur is fine. In my opinion, leaving the Haliaster redirect is a good thing, as it means that if anyone accidentally misspells it (as you did), they will be able to see the error. If you really want to get rid of the old name, go to Haliaster and replace the #REDIRECT with {{db-author}}, and an admin will delete the "Haliaster" page. John Vandenberg 22:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding types of Raven

Hi MeegsC, the NHM types can be checked using [1] and the other site mentioned for looking up data is GBIF. Actually the reply (Dr Prys-Jones?) says there are many types. Not that there is no type specimen of the taxon (Corvus corax corax). Even if there is no holotype for Linnaeus specimens, there is most likely a designated neotype. Shyamal 14:43, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The DYK Medal

The DYK Medal
I, Smee, hereby award MeegsC, for your multiple contributions to Did you know? The community appreciates your work. Thank you. Yours, Smee 23:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The 25 DYK Medal

The 25 DYK Medal
I, P.K.Niyogi, hereby award MeegsC with The 25 DYK Medal, in recognition of his over 25 contributions to the Did you know? section, as featured on the Main Page. Great job, you're on your way to 100! Thank you for your contributions to the project. Regards, P.K.Niyogi 06:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 24 May, 2007, a fact from the article Dance in Cameroon, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Smee 08:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 24 May, 2007, a fact from the article M/S Nordlandia, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- 2 noms at once, nice! Yours, Smee 08:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC) .[reply]

Thanks for nomination

Brilliant! No one has ever done that to me before. Of course the point is, that although the novel is 'set' at Sutton Hoo, the facts and characters, despite retaining their original names and identities, have all been horribly scrambled, which is annoying for the archaeologists! I wonder how it will get on. Thankyou anyhow. Best wishes, Dr Steven Plunkett 00:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 27 May, 2007, a fact from the article The Dig (novel), which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Haha! It was vaulted into notoriety before even the inline refs got in. Best wishes Dr Steven Plunkett 00:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flight feathers

Here are some possibly additional areas for coverage

Great going! Shyamal 04:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beats me. Why does it say, articles with unsourced ... at the bottom ? Shyamal 04:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Motmot tails - they drop on their own. [2] Also was looking at another belief that melanized feathers are stronger and it looks like even that may need to be re-examined http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/207/2/285/ Shyamal 08:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination

Hi, thanks for nominating Cassiber. I'm honoured. --Bruce1ee 06:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Collab

Who nominated me for what?....oh, right. Goddammit it's a tiebreaker and you went and voted for both of 'em ?! (The suspense is killing me -which will be the next bird collab..)

PS: I've beefed up American Crow a bit if you feel like working on corvids....cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 13:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Head of the River (Queensland)

Hi, Yeah I just noticed the lifted part. I didn't write that section though. It was originally part of the Head of the River (Australia) article that needed to be broken up..so I just moved all the existing info to the new article. Sorry..should have been more attentive. Loopla 01:13, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 27 May, 2007, facts from the articles Claus Wedekind, and The Dig (novel), which you recently nominated, have been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Aquarius • talk 16:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 28 May, 2007, a fact from the article William Carrick, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Smee 10:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK query On May 29, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Flight feathers, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for that really comprehensive article Meegs. You've earnt yourself the pictured slot. Happy editing and keep up the great work, Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 06:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Need sources

Hi MeegsC,

See this comment Remiges illustration. Do you know of any accurate source illustrations that can be looked up ? Shyamal 03:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up

[3] if you get back in time. :) pschemp | talk 20:51, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Commas or parentheses for scientific name in opening sentence and elsewhere

(Now that was a long header wasn't it?) There's a debate here about commas versus parentheses for scientific names for organisms (well in this case birds). I'm not sure whether this has been raised elsewhere but would be good to establish once and for all here and could apply as MOS across all biology articles. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New wing image

Hi, I found this new wing image in a book on www.archive.org . If you like it, maybe you could replace the current image. Shyamal 06:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Obelisk posture

Hey, thanks! I'm glad it was interesting. It seems to be a frequently asked question -- "why do dragonflies stand on their hands like that" -- since they look so funny doing it. —Celithemis 21:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Password

Thanks for the advice. Sadly it won't help since I don't as of yet have an e-mail account. Now I'm seriously thinking I should get one. Cynops2 00:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Naugle

Thanks for your corrections to this article. I am not a native speaker, and your copy-editing was really helpful :-)--Legionarius 03:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gambia

OK, it'll be tomorrow now - not sure if I took many bird images on that holiday, but I'll do what I can. Jimfbleak 16:55, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been through the list fixing some typos/weird Avibase names that I missed before. I don't know if you want to chop the Avibase link - all the country lists use it, but none reference it. Jimfbleak 19:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't trust the Avibase list too much. It uses US names and ignores generally accepted splits, so all the European lists, except the ones I constructed, have Black Scoter, but not Common Scoter. The status is often wrong, but varies from list to list (often rare species are not tagged as such). It's best to find a second source. I checked Eurasian Griffon here, and to my surprise it's listed for Senegal, so Avibase may well have got it right. I'll see what Birds of the Gambia says later. Jimfbleak 06:08, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also here and here. Jimfbleak 06:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
At least the SABC list uses the correct names! The avibase list is obviously more accurate than I thought, other than the US name problem. It's nearly 10 years since i went to The Gambia, and I didn't take many pics. I went to SA this year, but the bird pics I took don't overlap. I assume that you have Birds of the Gambia, so I'm not much help really.... Jimfbleak 12:17, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved the page back to its original name, and repointed a couple of links that went to the lower case version.

South American Bittern

Updated DYK query On 3 July, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article South American Bittern, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 17:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

paper request

I have managed to find some of the papers you asked for, send me an email and I'll forward them on to you. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flight feather

I'm moving in a few days, so I can't really guarantee I'll look at it before next week. If anything, that list of birds without secondaries is bloaty. Don't put images on left of headers. Rework that one-sentence section. Also consider moving the single-use references inside the footnotes; separation has advantages, but is unnecessary for material used only once. As a personal aside, I hate these linked notes (the abbreviation is enough IMO), but that's not an acceptable criterion. I have an inordinate fondness for title abbreviations over years, though that is horrible in linked notes Circeus 21:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bird unprotection

It's on my watchlist. Also, a lot can change in two months, so give it a try. I'll restore the sprotection if things get too hairy again. Borisblue 07:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query On 13 July, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tiny Hawk, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Yomanganitalk 12:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Golden Gate bridge

Hi Firsfron: Just wondering if you remember why you added the WP:Bird project template to the Golden Gate Bridge article (back in December 2006)... Inquiring minds want to know! :) MeegsC | Talk 13:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Meegs!
I actually have no idea; that was seven months ago. ;) But I assume it was a mistake, and it can be safely removed. Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester 23:09, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citation needed

Hi. Thanks for your message. All I think we need to see is a sufficient reference to enable verification of what is said - much the same as with anything on Wikipedia really. I'm sure it's possible to find a single reference which covers this rather than having to include many. If you'd like to fix this, Denis Summers-Smith's works would be a good starting point - let me know if you need further help tracking down something suitable and I'll see what I can do. All the best. SP-KP 15:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Long-billed Wren

I guess the naming standardisation doesn't apply to extinct birds. I suggest creating a stub Long-billed Wren (South America) and fixing the links that need to go to it. We can then either move Long-billed Wren to Long-billed Wren (New Zealand) and have Longbilled Wren as a redirect page or we can just have a dab notice at the top. Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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