Talk:PlaneShift (video game)

Category

As i think Planeshift should not be in category "Free software games". Actually i think there is no difference between "Free software games" and Free game software. So the definition "Free games are computer games assembled out of free software and open content" should apply to both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.114.233.170 (talk • contribs)

well... if you want to be specific, then Free game software is software for games... not the actual game... but ya... i dont know... —This unsigned comment is by 208.178.241.142 (talk • contribs) 22:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC).

Special features and idea

I think it would be worth to mention PlaneShift's special ideas and features ...e.g type-talking (instead of the now "classic" click-through) with NPC's in order to keep the world more coherent, heavily encouraged role-playing, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.61.66.55 (talk • contribs)

Copyvio, links to races (e.g., Enkidukai)

I've just removed nearly all the content regarding Yliakum from the article, as it was mostly a word-for-word copy (albeit a somewhat rearranged one) from the official Player Guide's Section 3.2. Overview of the Known World. Most of this content was first added to the article through a merge[1] from the old Yliakum article. According to Chapter 5. License of the Player Guide, This license (the PlaneShift Content License) is applied to all artwork and texts in this web site and is applied to all art/models/music/texts/names/setting/... present in the game. Since the PlaneShift Content License prevents copying, modifying, and creating derivative works from content applied to it, content directly from the Player Guide or other documentation from the PlaneShift website cannot be used in Wikipedia. If I've been overzealous and accidentally removed original content from the article that does not violate copyright, please restore it.

I've also removed wikilinks to the races of Yliakum, excluding those that have a presence outside PlaneShift. I think that, at least in the game's current pre-alpha state, there isn't enough information for each race to warrant its own article, and that the creation of such articles shouldn't be encouraged. Any (non-copyvio) material on the races should be added in the Races section of the current article. If it gets to the point where content on the races gets too large, we can always split it off info a Races of PlaneShift article in the future. (ed: Not seeing any objections, I went ahead and merged Enkidukai into the races section. — 11:15, 5 December 2005 (UTC)) Accordingly, I'm proposing that Enkidukai be merged into the current section on races. If there's no objection, the merge should be simple, then we can remove the link to Enkidukai from the article. — Jeff | (talk) | 11:47, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

No, I'm personally glad you did this. There was a thread by the user who "created" the Yliakum article in the official Planeshift forums and he was not received very well. It was mainly a hair-brained attempt at getting attention combined with a lack of understanding of Wikipedia. I didn't know what to do with the article, so I simply stuck a merge tag on it and tried to throw in some inter-wiki links. The main reason I didn't get rid of the problematic text all together was to prevent hurt feelings (and that's no reason to leave a copyright violation in place!) Talad, the creator of Planeshift, did not comment, so I'm unsure how he felt about possible copyright violations.

This was needed for quite a while. Indi^talk 18:43, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I would like to apologise for that... I was immature back then :( Pure inuyasha 23:32, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Stats please

I came to the wikipedia entry looking for stats such as registered players, and number of players during peak hours etc, I didn't find them. They shouldn't be too hard to find should they. --165.155.128.132 20:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

You're right of course; though you would be surprised how hard this information can be to find at times, unless the game itself puts them to a prominent place. =) I can't find server stats anywhere on the site. Maybe someone who plays the game should post about this to their forums. I don't have the time and patience to register a forum account for a game that I've tried playing three times total... --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 12:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, so the forums are pretty impressive (>19000 members), and since the actual player count of any game is guesstimatable out of hat as (forum_members * 10), I think the notability is not a problem. Now all we need is hard data! Stats, anyone? --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 19:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

They do have statistics on web! Well I'll be damned, Google is ocassionally helpful. I suppose that takes care of the notability questions and all. =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 20:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I think they added stats.The Ronin 19:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Question...

Does this game have a language filter? If so, that would be really good. Because if it doesn't, my mom might not let me play... Please reply. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dragonexpert19 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

You should probably ask on their forums. http://www.hydlaa.com/smf/ Squids_and_Chips 22:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Notability?

Sure the "few references" tag should be on here, but it's difficult to see how PlaneShift's notability is in doubt. It's a very large project which has been around for years and attracted thousands of active users. This article is full of fancruft and OR but the subject itself is not the problem, the treatment of the subject is.

I think the NN tag ought to be removed.

Eleland 18:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. Definitely notable. However, I am unable to find any "non-trivial" sources for this claim - perhaps someone with Google-fu skills superior to mine (not hard) would be able to find some? --Pyreforge 13:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

http://www.planeshift.it/pix/PSinPCgamer_small.jpg, october 2001 pcgamer uk 70.48.58.206 00:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC) steuben

Excellent! Now to remove that offensive tag... --Pyreforge 07:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

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NPOV dispute

The article has been repeatedly edited to present Planeshift in the best positive light. Submissions that others have made have been deleted if they talk about the existence of bugs in the game or the game's community. That is to say, someone is deleting any submission that suggests something even remotely negative about the game. The result is a very biased article that is highly commercial in nature.

Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. Also, there's WP:BLP to contend with. Tuxide 05:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Balatant advertising is considered spam and should be deleted as such.

Tuxide is using a bot to prevent ANY changes that ANYONE makes. DL42 06:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Check out his profile. He's using VandalProof 2.0. Planeshift deserves an article, but the current one will probably be deleted since it's an advertisement / spam.