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Discussion through July 2006

Spain joins NATO

Spain joined NATO under the last UCD's Government, with Calvo Sotelo in office; the government rushed to because polls suggested that the PSOE, a party that opposed it, would eventually win the next general elections. The Referendum that came later asked the voters to leave (or not) the Organisation while modifying the status of the relationship. The result was not to leave it. I have fixed this mistake. --Uncertain 11:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

18th c. Spain - Enlightenment & Backwardness

I am relatively new to this process. Nonetheless, I am concerned about the characterization of Spain in the eighteenth century. Spain emphatically DID absorb the ideals of the Enlightenment (e.g. - The Jesuits before their expulsion or the military reforms following the Seven Years' War). Nor did Spain fall impossibly behind England and France. As late as 1796, Spain had the largest navy in Western Europe, as well as 4 of 7 and 5 of the 9 largest warships in the world. It retained control of the largest European empire in the world (the English and the French both lost the bulk of theirs during the 1700s). And all this was accomplished without the enormous national debt incurred by either England or France. Moreover, if we want to push things even further forward, more than half of all the ships fighting at Trafalgar -- on both sides -- were built by the Spanish in Spain and Havana. How might we correct these misperceptions?

Maps

Historical maps of Spain: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/spain_910_1492.jpg jengod 21:37, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ferdinand and Isabel

I'm not sure why there is no mention of Ferdinand and Isabel, the union of Castile and Aragon, etc. Given that that this was a pivotal set of events in the creation of what became Spain, shouldn't there be substantial discussion about this? See, e.g., Treaty of Alcaçovas for starters. NorCalHistory 19:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lead section not compliant with WP:LEAD

The lead section is not compliant with WP:LEAD. The lead section is supposed to summarize the entire article, and entice the reader to read more. NorCalHistory 20:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While I am continuing to add to the lead section, I am aware that my additions are also not (yet) compliant with WP:LEAD, because the additions occasionally refer to matters which are not (yet) included in the main text (such as the marriage of Isabella and Ferdinand). The hope is that additions may be made to the main text, so as to fill-in missing information. NorCalHistory 21:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The heavy editing of the lead section is essentially done, and I have upgraded some of the early sections (taking better material from Spain). The rest of the main text needs filling, such as the Ferdinand and Isabella story.NorCalHistory 21:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The lead section is still not in compliance. It's supposed to be a concise summary of the article. Right now it's huge. In fact I was reading through the lead just now and I was surprised to see a table of contents at the bottom, 'cause I thought that was the actual article. It's wayyyyyy too long. Most of that info does not need to be there. 68.8.108.62 00:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by the above comments, the reason the lead section is so long is that the article is too short.--Shtove 11:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WIKIPEDIA

This web sit is not reall dont get any info from it

Proposal to merge Prehistoric Spain with Prehistoric Portugal & move to Prehistoric Iberia

Currently, the text of Prehistoric Spain seems really to be about prehistoric Iberia. Similarly, the text of Prehistoric Portugal seems really to be about the same thing. This would be perfectly understandable seeing as there was no Spain and no Portugal in prehistoric times. I have argued therefore that it would be best to have these articles merged under a title which indicates the geographical region rather than the modern states. I have proposed the articles be merged and moved to Prehistoric Iberia. Please come and discuss the proposal. Jimp 09:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jim. If the merge goes through, what shall we do with Pre-Roman Portugal? You see, Prehistoric Spain encompasses a period that the "Portuguese" articles differentiated into Prehistoric Portugal and Pre-Roman Portugal. Should we merge them all? The Ogre 13:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
May I request that this conversation (also) take place at WP:SPAIN? As a courtesy to the WP:SPAIN members, I will place a link there to this conversation. EspanaViva 20:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spain since 1978 section

The "Spain since 1978" section should be restructured to be written in complete sentences, instead of sentence fragments. If "The Unión del Centro Democrático governments. 1981 The 23-F coup d'état attempt." is meant to be a section subhead, it should be turned into that: as it is, it looks like someone's class notes. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review requested for Madrid article

A Peer review has been requested for Madrid, the article about the capital city of Spain. Please feel free to edit the Madrid article to improve it and/or leave a comment at Wikipedia:Peer_review#Madrid. EspanaViva 19:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spain in the American Revolutionary War

Help expand this article, please. Spain doesn't get her due credit for her contribution to victory in the war. You can help correct that. SamEV 03:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

spain

what were the needs and wants that made spain come to america

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