Talk:National Diet

Reasoning for move (from Diet of Japan), we should call things by their Official name if possible and let redirects handle the other names. That's all. Emperorbma

I did the move because it's better than a cut and paste, but I disagree with the move; most English speakers do not know the term Kokkai. See also Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). - Hephaestos 05:07 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Hum, I have already moved it. I feel that it should be at Kokkai since the system supports redirecting, and people will know that they are where they want to be. We should be as official as possible. Besides Duma and Knesset are in their own articles and most English speakers just call those the Russian and Israeli Parliaments respectively. Emperorbma 05:12 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Google disagrees with that assessment; I know Google's full of misinformation, but it's good at telling "what people call things" (even if what they call things is erroneous) because after all that's exactly what it indexes. So I tried some searches with the "English only" option turned on.

• "israeli parliament" (in quotes): 11,600; knesset: 83,800
• "russian parliament" (in quotes): 58,600; duma: 213,000

on the other hand,

• "japanese diet" (in quotes): 9,410; kokkai: 2,110

Hephaestos 05:25 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

• Sigh* Oh well... you can't win 'em all... OK, I'll put it back. Sorry about all this. I don't suppose it'd hurt to leave it here? Emperorbma

Actually I'd like to wait for an opinion from someone besides just the two of us; let's leave it here for the time being - Hephaestos 05:35 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I have no problem with that. I am really sorry about all this anyway. I don't see how it'd hurt either way, I just feel it looks better in it's native tongue. ^_^;; Emperorbma

I can think of another major arguement for Kokkai over Diet of Japan. Diet also means food, and some people could confuse "diet of Japan" with the "Diet of Japan". (Yes, it is a silly thing, but some people could) Emperorbma

Oh it's no bother really. And I got to thinking "Japanese Diet" comes up with hits on the more mundane English version of "diet" so that count might be way off. - Hephaestos 05:46 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

4220 out of 5590 results pertain to food (I used "food" as an additional search word). Interesting, this doth a quandary pose. Emperorbma

I'm tempted to go with whatever the Kokkai/Diet itself uses in its official English-language publications. I have no idea how to find out what that is though. - Hephaestos 06:01 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The National Diet Library (English) says "National Diet" in it's title, but I am not sure that's what they use as an official name.

Google turns up 14,300 results for "National Diet" -food (I looked through 5 pages, all were pertinent) I don't know but maybe "Japanese National Diet" or somesuch could work? Or we could keep it here. Maybe we should have a WikiVote from passersby to test the waters first. Emperorbma

OK, I've searched and "Diet of Japan" still works (to redirect) here, so for the time being we're safe while we poll the guests.

P.S. "Diet of japan" didn't work, but that's to be expected since the 'pedia is case sensitive. Emperorbma 06:50 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)