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User:Davedonohue

Sfacets, sorry about my iPhone article modification mistake. I was trying to illustrate how contentious the discussion around that one had gotten, and should have used the Sandbox. Thanks for your message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davedonohue (talkcontribs)

No, I should apologize, I noticed after that you had reverted your edit, so there was no real reason to post a warning... I have removed it from your talk page accordingly. Sfacets 02:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Please use four tildes ~~~~ to sign your comments, thanks!

No worries, and done re: the signature Davedonohue 04:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Davedonohue[reply]

RfC at Steven Hassan article

Hello Sfacets. If you have time, would you mind taking a look at my RfC at Steven Hassan? Thanks much. Tanaats 16:12, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I don't know if you are still watching the convoluted discussion at the RfC at Steven Hassan, so I thought I'd ask directly. What do you think of my compromise offer? Thanks Tanaats 05:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The compromise was accepted. Thanks much for your participation. Tanaats 15:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ISKCON News.net

Why do you keep taking it out? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Random108 (talkcontribs) 02:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

(Replied on user's talk) Sfacets 02:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yogani Article - Question Regarding Sources

Hi Sfacets. I had a question regarding sources that I was hoping you might be able to help me out with. Yogani has recently done three radio interviews and is scheduled for three more this month, the soonest one being Sunday. There is plenty of information in the interviews, which have been archived and are available for streaming or download at http://www.aypsite.com/audio.html, so they can be verified. The interviews have been conducted on a talk radio show in Cincinnati (1360 WSAI [1]) called "Yoga - The Other 98 Percent", and simultaneously broadcast live on the internet. I was originally going to use these as sources in the article as there is plenty of information there, but the closest I could find to a radio interview in the Wikipedia guidelines for sources was for video. Do archived radio interviews qualify as sources, so long as the information referenced is contained within the interviews, or would I run into a problem again due to the archives being hosted on the AYP site? Thanks for your help and have a great day. Mdyogi 20:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Thanks Sfacets, your help is appreciated. I'm gonna get on it now. Mdyogi 00:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for your help with Ayyavazhi. The whole body of articles need a lot of copyediting. I wanted to ask you a question. How do you populate a category that doesn't exist yet? I have this article and others I could add. Thanks again, NinaOdell | Talk 03:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of a valid source on the basis of history

hi there

I have been into yoga since 23 years and really feel that the need of a practical guide (not only theoretical) makes the article a better one. I found the website very elaborate and detailed in its explanation. I believe it should be restored.. would like to know your opinion on this matey. And the reason for removal was very vague IMO.

regards mark —The preceding Man on a Mission comment was added by Wisdomking (talkcontribs) 05:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I appreciate your honesty and straightforwardness

hi matey

  I understand your position very well and really appreciate your attitude.

The website does have very relevant information hithertho unmentioned in the article - the reason I added it. You have a nice week.

regards mark —The preceding Man on a Mission comment was added by Wisdomking (talkcontribs) 05:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Your recent edit to Swaminarayan Sampraday (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 16:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the you reinsertion of the blog link (emzr.com). found it is a wide scale spam campaign by an adsense publisher. see User_talk:Wisdomking. blogs are normaly avoided any way, as the majority are scrapped content as this blog was. a comparison is emzr.com scrapped content vs Mumbai Mirror's article by Bharat Thakur --Hu12 17:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invite to WikiProject Spam

If you're interested, come visit us in Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam so we can work together in our efforts to clean spam from Wikipedia. Hu12 17:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More Vandalism

Can we enact the same protection on the Shikshapatri & Vachanamrut pages? Any mention of BAPS is being erased left and right. I didn't know users could be this hostile and unwilling to tolerate a neutral POV! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moksha88 (talkcontribs) 21:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Swaminarayan Sampraday

Is there supposed to be an article at Swaminarayan Sampraday? A Ramachandran 22:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, it's just that there seems to be something there now. Seems there was an article under the redirect that has been resurrected. Is that what was intended? If not, perhaps it should be deleted to give a clean start? Check the history, there's been a bit of back and forth between the redirect and the old article there.... A Ramachandran 00:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

your offer of help with the YGS page

Hi, thanks for the note on A Ramachandran's talk page. The YGS page has gone through enormous edit warring and conflicts in the past, due to editors with conflicts of interest in opposition. I've spent a great deal of time in early 2006 working on that page, so a huge amount of material is already available in the history. Here's an old diff with a LOT of information on YGS, albeit not formatted very well. Perhaps you can look this over and help me cull the information from here which can be used to formulate a cogent and unbiased article? Thanks in advance! Hamsacharya dan 23:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you think the conflict of interest is not a problem, and will be watching the article... I have doubts myself. Have you looked through the edit history? There has been a large amount of edit warring in the past, and Hamsacharya dan seems to have been one of the warring parties. The older versions are rather unencyclopedic: adoring and promotional... A Ramachandran 23:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is all true. I took a break from wikipedia for the last 8 months or so - I'm not interested in arguing or wasting time warring on here any longer. I know that even if I win, I've lost because of all the wasted time. I already tried nominating the article for deletion, when I found that an unbiased article would be very difficult to create given the warring. That failed at that time. If you two will support me in an AfD, then perhaps this article can be deleted, and I wont have to think any more about the next time someone tries to vandalize it. As it is, 3rd party publications in magazines about YGS are sparse - there are few articles from the US and abroad on YGS that I can call upon at this time. Please review these briefly to see if they are viable sources, considering that many of them are interviews with or contain quotes from YGS himself.

  1. article in Yogi Times magazine [2]
  2. article in Awareness Magazine [3]
  3. article in Life Positive Journal (not available online at this time)
  4. column in LA Yoga magazine
  5. article in the Aspectarian [4]
  6. Chandigarh Tribune [5]
  7. newspaper clipping from an Indian newspaper from the 1970's (not online)
  8. certificate of merit from a primary school in India. (not online)  

Thanks, --Hamsacharya dan 02:50, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see this evidence connecting Terminator III with indef blocked user NoToFrauds. A Ramachandran 02:47, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

astalavista.box.sk

nice work sherlock, you could even read the site advisors text or go to astalavista to check the basis of my warning before you deleted my warning. (i know because it was edited back faster than i could write my oneliner of reasons to astalavista.box.sk talk page.) --Zache 06:02, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well it's elementary, my dear Watson... Sfacets 06:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Heide Fittkau-Garthe

Hi Sfacets,

I removed the references to the Heide Fittkau-Garthe mass suicide story because the story only concerns initial charges made and there is no record I can find anywhere of any subsequent convictions. However I have found plenty of references to Heide Fittkau-Garthe being released without charges.

Please read the following references and let me know what you think... [6] [7] [8] [9].

I realise that the above links are probably not considered reputable sources, though I could be mistaken. However there is a brief mention in www.time.com, which is at least as reputable as the existing reference, of Heide being released on bail [10]. If she was really guilty of such serious charges, especially including children, then I doubt very much that she would ever be released on bail.

I suggest that the story is not notable unless we can find a better reference that something really did happen and it wasn't, as suggested by the various reports cited above, just a concocted tip-off made up by a relative of a member of her group.

Generally, the law in democratic countries considers people innocent until proven guilty. I would hope Wikipedia articles would aim to follow a similar ethical code.

Thanks and regards, Bksimonb 17:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK I've raised the issue in the Cult discussion page [11] since that is the most active of the pages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bksimonb (talkcontribs) 19:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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Moderation

Mind doing a little moderation on the Reggaeton page? The title shouldn't have been changed in the first place, especially without consensus. If anything you should change it back to the way it had appeared for years (without the accent) and then open discussion to where a consensus can be reached before it would be edited. I know more about that genre than anyone on wikipedia and have been maintaining that article since it went up, what's being done to it is vandalism, plain and simple.

Jinabhai Vasanji

There is an article titled "Jinabhai Vasanji." This is inaccurate as this was not his name upon becoming a sadhu (ascetic). Once someone becomes an ascetic, they renounce their former identity, and in the case of the Swaminarayan faith, Yogiji Maharaj was his name, not Jinabhai Vasanji. How do I go about changing a title?
Moksha88 05:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iglesia ni Cristo

While you're trying to delete the email links, you've also deleted the External links section header. Could you fix it? --wL<speak·check·chill> 05:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there are 3 subsections which were under that header, pro, con and other. So they look out of place without that External links header. --wL<speak·check·chill> 05:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BAPS

Why is there a link to the Swaminarayan Sampraday on the BAPS page? Both faiths have its differences and are only united by the Swaminarayan name. Moksha88 06:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I still do not understand why the BAPS page has to have a link to the Swaminarayan Sampraday page. Could you please explain to me the justification? Moksha88 00:29, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, the Swaminarayan Sampraday page should have a BAPS link. Moksha88 06:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed...another day, another edit war! I've already added it back, so we'll see what comes next... Moksha88 07:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


"...spin-off from the original Swaminarayan sect"

The two phrases in the BAPS article were just now removed by me because they are clearly pointed. The first one emphasizes the fact that Shastriji Maharaj, the founder of BAPS, was excommunicated and forced to leave; however, he left and was then excommunicated.

"Shastriji Maharaj- who separated from the original sect in order to propagate what he saw as the true philosophy of the Faith"

As for the second phrase, it depicts Shastriji Maharaj as radical in the sense that he did what he wanted to do without regard to scriptures or God. He left because Vadtal was becoming unsafe for him to stay there. Acharya Laxmiprasadji, the head of the Vadtal, refused to rebuke the hostile saints due to his grudge against Shastriji Maharaj. Why? As a seven-year old, he disliked a sermon given to him once on good conduct by Shastriji Maharaj.

I am not trying to turn into one of the fiery, radical anonymous vandals, but there are some facts that go unstated. Again, I will continue to work within the rules established by Wikipedia, and these statements are in hopes of demeriting BAPS. Moksha88 20:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cpsriv.jpg

I've makrd an image you uploaded Image:Cpsriv.jpg, as "fair use disputed". You may not be aware of current Wikipedia practices, but images of living people rarely qualify for fair use because they can (theoretically) be replaced with free versions. Since the subject has made several public appearances lately, and since videos of his appearnaces show many people taking pictures of him, there's less justification for using a copyrighted photo. See Wikipedia:Fair use#Counterexamples. A relevant counterexample includes:

  • A photo from a press agency (e.g. Reuters, AP), not so famous as to be iconic, to illustrate an article on the subject of the photo. If photos are themselves newsworthy (e.g. a photo of equivalent notoriety as the Muhammad cartoons newspaper scan), low resolution versions of the photos may be fair use in related articles.

Since there's no assertion that this photo is itslef newsworthy it would not qualify for fair use. See also the essay Wikipedia:Deletion of all fair use images of living people. -Will Beback · · 20:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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RE: Spamming

I apologize for spamming and will stop. I am going to re-add my Review of the live performance of Kyle Cease however. This link was approved by Kyle and is also promoted in his myspace blog. I will NOT add any additional links to Wikipedia.

Again, I am sorry.

Chase Roper —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.168.87.166 (talk) 20:39, 2 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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IRC meeting

The mediator has proposed an IRC meeting. Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-16 Sahaja Yoga. -Will Beback · · 22:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Copyvio ELs

What is your proof that "Adishakti.org" violates copyrights? I see you're removing many links to their websites, such as here: [12] Don't tell me that you're claiming to have created all the photos and drawings yourself. -Will Beback · · 02:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, they have ripped a CD that the SY organisation holds copyrights to, and are making the tracks available for download on their website, in each of the articles I removed links to. Sfacets 03:32, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

How do we know this? Which pages host the purported violations? -Will Beback · · 18:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The links I removed directed to the pages in quesion. Sfacets 22:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
At least one of the links you removed was to a PDF. Again, how do we know that the material is in violation of copyright? How can we verify this? -Will Beback · · 22:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose you could try contacting someone via the sahajayoga.org website. Which link was to the pdf file? Sfacets 23:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Until such time as you can proivide evidence of the copyright violations, I am restoring the links. -Will Beback · · 23:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Have a look at [13] clearly the editor ripped the CD and is distributing the content. Sfacets 00:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
And how do we know that the material is in violation of copyrights? -Will Beback · · 01:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
the mere fact that he has ripped the CD and is distributing the content is copyright infringement. Sfacets 01:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
It's only copyright infringement if the CD was copyrighted. You have the burden of proof to show that these are definititively copyvios. So far you haven't done so. -Will Beback · · 02:10, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The music, like photos is automatically copyrighted to the artist, unless provisions are stated to the contrary. It is therefore up to you to prove that the songs are not copyrighted. Sfacets 02:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea who holds the copyrights. We don't know that they the website hasn't received permission. You have not demonstrated any evidence that these are copyvios. You have shown that you have a dislike for the website and the group that it represents. That makes it hard to believe you are acting in good faith. Especially when you add copyright violations yourself. -Will Beback · · 06:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good faith or bad faith, the fact remains that an individual is not allowed to reproduce a CD without express permission of the copyright holder. Can you prove that the webmaster has obtained permission to copy and distribute the media? Sfacets 08:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
We don't know who the copyright holder is. It could have been the friend who sent it to him. Wikipedia does not have proof of copyright permission for every image and article that it links to. The presumption is that the website holds the copyright. If you can provide proof otherwise please do. Otherwise don't use Wikipedia as the battleground for a vendetta against that group. -Will Beback · · 08:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Don't be absurd, I'm not using wikipedia as a 'battleground'. Even if the author of the media in question did share the music, he/she still maintains copyright (copyright is not transmitted with the media - the media is for personal use only), and the website adishakti.org is in breach of this copyright by illegally distributing copies. Sfacets 08:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Its not absurd to say that you and Sahajhist have removed links to that website numerous times, and that you have made off-line negative comments about them. As for the links, how do you know that the performers didn't grant permission? How do we know that there is a copyright violation? -Will Beback · · 09:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Define "off-line negative comments"? As I mentionned above, only the artist has the right to distribute his/her content - in this case (as shown by " i will be uploading all 8 tracks onto every page of www.adishakti.org") it is clearly not the artist distributing the files. Sfacets 11:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm referring to your posted comments on the AdiShakti Yahoo group. As for the links there's no evidence that the artists haven't given their permission. Using the same logic we should remove virtually every external link from Wikipedia, since we can't be sure that the webmasters were the creators of their material, or that they received permission from the copyright owners. That standard would certainly apply to every SY link, plus about 20 milion others. Again, if you have no proof, don't delete the links. -Will Beback · · 17:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
According to US copyright law -

"it is a direct violation of copyright laws to upload music to a Web site, even with a legally purchased music cd. Unless you have the express written consent of the owner, you could face a monetary lawsuit and criminal charges

. Can you provide evidence of such a written consent? Sfacets 23:35, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
You'll have to ask that website. Until we have proof that they are violating copyright there is no more reason to assume that they are than there is reason to assume that every SY website is illegally hosting photos of Shri Mataji. The burden of proof is on you, since you are making the assertion of a copyright violation. -Will Beback · · 23:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since you haven't provided any proof that the links are copyvios, I'm going to revert your deletions. Please don't delete them again until you have some actual evidence of copyright violations. And please clean up your own copyright violations (below). -Will Beback · · 04:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You unilaterally deleted numerous links from a group with which you have a conflict, I discussed it with you extensively, and now you accuse me of acting arbitrarily? I think that you're confusing the two of us. You are more than welcome to seek an "uninterested third party to mediate". Meanwhile please stop deleting these links. -Will Beback · · 12:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it that every time I suggest ou do something (eg supply evidence, start an RFC) you throw it back at me? Are you unable to do it yourself? Sfacets 13:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
You're the one who wants to remove the informaiton, therefore the burden of proof is on you. -Will Beback · · 19:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you keep deleting the tags on Image:Dharamsala map.gif. The site has a clear copyright notice, and the uploader claims "permission". That being the case why isn't the {permission} tag appropriate? -Will Beback · · 01:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You've already removed on 'DB' tag as well. Any reason why it shouldn't be deleted immediately? -Will Beback · · 02:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since you are apparently so concerned about copyrights, how come you haven't yet deleted this improperly licensed image? -Will Beback · · 23:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image replaced with self-created one. Sfacets 16:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Self-created? This appears to be another instance in which you claim the work of others as your own. You can't simply make a small cange and claim it as your own. -Will Beback · · 19:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Small change? It's completely different. Your continued ridiculous assertions that I claim the work of others as my own are absurd. Sfacets 01:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
The version I saw before must have been left in the cache. I acknowledge that you have finally, and after much prompting, fixed this problem. Thank you. -Will Beback · · 04:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category Rename

According to Webster Dictionary, the definition of sect is as follows.

1 a: a dissenting or schismatic religious body; especially : one regarded as extreme or heretical

Can we rename "Swaminarayan sect" to "Swaminarayan" faith or something a little less polar? Swaminarayan Hinduism, of all groups, does not fit the above definition. Moksha88 09:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is only one definition, the other is " a group adhering to a distinctive doctrine or to a leader" and "A group of people forming a distinct unit within a larger group by virtue of certain refinements or distinctions of belief or practice." (American heritage Dictionary) Sect is a lot less pejorative than say 'cult', for example. In this case it would be considered a sub group of Hinduism, and sect would be a good descriptor, faith connotes that it is a major standalone religion that has no afiliations with any other major organised religion. Sfacets 11:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


Offshoot

Please refrain from continuously adding " is an off-shoot of the Swaminarayan Sampradaya" to the BAPS page - unless you have a source to prove this? It is doing nothing more than disruptig edits. Sfacets 22:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Haribhagat"

Yes, i have a source (one of an un-biased scholar - Raymond Brady Williams who wrote an Introduction into Swaminarayan Hinduism) In his book he writes that Yagnapurush(the saint who is the founder of BAPS) left the Swaminarayan Sampradaya(the original sect set up by Bhagwan Swaminarayan) to set up his own organisation(BAPS). He was originally of the Swaminarayan Sampradaya and then left to create BAPS, so i think it makes BAPS an off-shoot. Please inform me if the terminology is different.

Also in the same book it states that the Swaminarayan Sampradaya is the sect set up by Bhagwan Swaminarayan. I think this discussion stemmed from the see also link in the respective sects pages. My edit was to add information to the side of the see also link. I still believe by adding the information it is improving the quality as it is making users aware that this link (ie BAPS is an off-shoot from the Swaminarayan Sampradaya and Swaminarayan Sampradaya is the sect set up by Bhagwan Swaminarayan). Also i was considering the fact of adding the off-shoot information to the BAPS article but after this reaction i decided to wait and get the views of others.

Haribhagat 15:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Bhagwan Swaminarayan

On the talk page, i have presented views on how to improve the article and have had backings from users. I would like to request if you can review my comments on the Bhagwan Swaminarayan talk page and then confirm if i could go ahead and add this additional information under guidance. My idea is to add a small section which states that Bhagwan Swaminarayan set up and led a sect by the name of Swaminarayan Sampradaya. I will await your reply.

Haribhagat 15:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of founders of world religions‎;

Would you discuss on the talk page before deleting stuff , particularly if your edit summary does not support your action. For instance you deleted Scientology arguing that its not a major religion , yet the article is about world religions not about major religions.--CltFn 23:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: Regarding Scientology, there is discussion already in progress on the talk page. (which I mentionned in my edit summary). If a (potentially) minor religion such as Scientology were to be included, then many many other groups would have to be included as well, which is why it is vital to ascertain that Scientology has a substantial following. Sfacets 23:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Well accordint to this source, it is is listed as a major religion. --CltFn 00:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Cease

Good Afternoon!

There seems to be some controversy surrounding a link to a review of one of the artists live shows. I followed through on my end to NOT add anymore links to my blog and I completely understand and acknowledge that I was inadvertently spamming. I am very fond of Wikipedia and do not want to contribute to spam. That being said, the link to this review is the only review of this artist's work and, as I've stated before, is shared directly in his own Myspace Blog. Several wikipedia users have come to read this review and then clicked out of my blog to the Artist's Myspace profile or Amazon.com where they can purchase his work. Again, I am going to include this link and request that it stop being removed as it is an entirely relevant and useful resource.

crazy 00:34, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dharmic Writers template

I see you have at least started the process of nominating this for deletion. Good. Categories can fulfill the same purpose. I was removing it from the articles of writers not listed on it, but I will stop so more opinions can be registered in the deletion discussion. IPSOS (talk) 02:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A blocked user cannot edit any pages other than his/her own talk page, see WP:BLOCK#Evasion of blocks. Khoikhoi 07:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's better now. Khoikhoi 07:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for preserving the content on the Reggaeton talk page. In years of editing wikipedia, I have never seen such a blatant disregard of this site's rules. I recognize that you posting doesn't mean you agree or disagree, I just appreciate that you don't edit out of spite. On a sidenote, where on wikipedia can someone report an admin for abuse? 65.0.105.137 07:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]