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January 13
NEW NOMINATIONS
- DeleteIt is empty and its author requests deletion. Rintrah 15:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete as categorization by subjective inclusion criterion, POV. -- Prove It (talk) 15:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Mobile phone companies of El Salvador, convention of Category:Mobile phone companies by country. -- Prove It (talk) 15:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Royal Family of Cambodia
- Propose renaming Category:Royal Family of Cambodia to Category:Cambodian royalty
- Rename, per convention of category:Royalty. Pinoakcourt 14:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Kohary
- Propose renaming Category:Kohary to Category:Kohary family
- Rename, "Kohary" could be almost anything; my proposed name is clearer. Pinoakcourt 13:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Lucky ☆ Star
- Propose renaming Category:Lucky ☆ Star to Category:Lucky Star (manga)
- Rename, a consensus has been reached for renaming the main article from Lucky ☆ Star to Lucky Star (manga) (and it has since been moved), the category should also follow. Also see the main article renaming discussion at Talk:Lucky_Star_(manga)#Requested_move. Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 12:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. As per article renaming, best to to avoid the use of non-Latin alphabets in category names. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:34, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Lists of terrestrial volcanoes
- Merge, 99,9% of articles about volcanoes in Wikipedia are about volcanoes on Earth. This category is redundant and can be merged into "Lists of volcanoes" without breaking the consistency. Darwinek 11:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Merge per Dawrinek. The Rambling Man 12:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Marvel Comics - New Universe characters
- Propose renaming Category:Marvel Comics - New Universe characters to Category:New Universe characters
- Rename - This was nominated and resulted in rename here but apparently got overlooked when the other nominated category got renamed. Also, Category:Psi-Force members was to be deleted. This doesn't fit speedy rename and I'm not sure if there's some other process for picking up these missed changes, if so point me toward it and I'll repost this there. Otto4711 11:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Towns in California
- Merge, The State of California makes no distinctions on the size of their cities like many Northeast US states do. The one relatively minor difference are those that are general law cities, and those that are charter cities. Category:Towns in California seems to be an odd mix of incorporated cities, unincorporated communities, and ghost towns. There is already the semi-overlapping category:Census-designated places in California and category:Unincorporated communities in California. Communities that fit into those categories should be moved. Incorporated cities should be moved into Category:Cities in California, and then Category:Towns in California should be deleted. BlankVerse 10:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Associate's degree holders
- Delete - This seems like such a non-notable achievement that it is not worth using it as a criteria to categorize people. The category should be deleted. Dr. Submillimeter 10:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Do we have Category:Degree holders or similar? roundhouse 11:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom before it gets out of control. The Rambling Man 12:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This appears to be a sort of branding/marketing exercise by some universities and colleges rather than a substantive type of qualification. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. That said, I even doubt if there is a need for a category bachelor degree holders if there is one. For for Brownhairgirl's latter complaint, I doubt it. It have zero effect as I see it. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 14:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Translators by source material
- Delete - Currently, this category contains only Category:Bible translators (which should be kept). The category was intended to be used for the translators of other materials as well. The category also once contained Category:Translators of hymns, but in a 2007 Jan 5 discussion, it was decided to delete this subcategory and not to use this type of categorization scheme. Among other things, it was stated that searches for people based on the type of material that they translated was esoteric and that the classification scheme was a bad idea because translators often work on a wide variety of source materials. This category should therefore be deleted. Dr. Submillimeter 10:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - per previous cfd and above case. roundhouse 11:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per well-reasoned nom and previous CFD. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete it makes more sense to categorize translators by nationality and languages. We already do both. -- Prove It (talk) 13:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Moskva class aircraft carriers
Delete: replaced by more precise Category:Moskva class helicopter carriers —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 05:51, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per N328KF. The Rambling Man 12:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Seems like straightforward housekeeping. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Hindu Fundamentalism
Delete, A POV attempt by User:Kathanar as a response to consistent edit-warring against consensus regarding the CfD of Category:Religious supremacists. A category on Hindu Nationalism already exists so redundant (Category:Hindutva) Rumpelstiltskin223 04:35, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete' per nom .Shyamsunder 17:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)}}}
Rumpelstiltskin223 I see again the same users involved here, its seems you been "canvassing" for votes again. No I think this category can stand on its own, Hindu nationalism is not a good definition (nationalism denotes more of a nationality or ethnicity), as there is no category for muslim nationalism, etc., this is a much better term for what it categorizes and makes it more standard.--Kathanar 04:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- What a charming kettle of accusations. The first statement is rather funny considering that I have not contacted or canvassed anybody whereas you clearly have [1][2]. Second statement is beautiful original research and has no real basis in truth or fact. Rumpelstiltskin223 05:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Here's the thing. The term "Hindu Fundamentalism" is a nonentity as there are no "Fundamentals" in Hinduism. "Fundamentalism" means literal adherence to normative scripture. Christianity and Islam have such scripture (Bible and Quran respectively) but Hinduism does not. If you argue the Vedas are normative then you are saying that Hindutvawadis adhere to the literal truth of the Vedas. This is laughable as a majority of Hindutvawadis probably haven't even read the Vedas. Hindutva or "Hindu Nationalism" is a political movement, not a religious one and so no fundamentalism is involved. See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hindu_extremism for similar arguments from another AfD. Rumpelstiltskin223 05:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete'--D-Boy 05:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - No need to feed.Bakaman 06:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per reasoned argument in nom. The Rambling Man 12:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete' per nom. POV category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Category:"History of" templates
- Merge, better fitting category, no need for duplication. Chris 04:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Types of museum
- Merge Category:Types of museum into Category:Museums by type
- One has most of the articles, and the other has most of the cats, and there's no reason that I can see for it. --lquilter 03:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think it makes more sense to Merge Category:Types of museum into Category:Museums -- Samuel Wantman 08:43, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's better to keep one of the "museum types" categories and keep the museums cat -- which is after all a fairly major cat -- clean. Otherwise all the articles and subcats -- 55 cats, 24 pages -- get lumped in at the top. Someone obviously cleaned up the main museums cat by moving all the cats into a subcat, and I think it's good because it helps the other categories in museums be visible (Museum occupations, Museum organizations, Museum events, and so on). I just think they went a little overboard in making two categories with a difficult-to-understand distinction. (It's also parallel to Museums by city, Museums by country.)--lquilter 14:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Military units and formations of South Korea
- Category:Military units and formations of South Korea into Category:Military units and formations of the Republic of Korea
- Merge, The Mil Units and formations of S Korea duplicates an existing category that uses the official name of the South Korean Army. Buckshot06 02:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Reverse merge Common name is South Korea, which is where the country's page resides. Xiner (talk, email) 02:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Reverse merge per Xiner; the country categories generally use the common name of the country (i.e. the one where the article is placed), not the formal one. Kirill Lokshin 03:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Fictional villains
Delete - we recently deleted fictional hereoes and fictional heroines categories. All the same rationales for deleting those categories apply here. Otto4711 01:43, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. What we really need is Category:Fictional categories that is kept perpetually empty. ;-) Samuel Wantman 02:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete It's a shame because there ARE heroes and villains. Xiner (talk, email) 02:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Reluctant delete for consistency and because, in many cases, it invokes POV which is inappropriate for a category. While we're at it, though, I must point out that supervillain is different from just villain because supervillain can generally be more objectively defined. Doczilla 08:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete this and all of its subcategories - I have wanted to nominate this category myself for a while for two reasons. First, whether or not someone is a villian may require a subjective judgment. In some cases, characters clearly behave as villians, while in others, characters have more complex characteristics that make the designation ambiguous. Second, characters switch between being heroes and villians frequents. Magneto and Darth Vader are good examples, although I also see that Silver Potato is now listed as a villian (despite being a long-standing hero). Dr. Submillimeter 09:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per Dr. S. The Rambling Man 12:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Orphan tags
Per the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Free but unwanted images, this category is not wanted or needed. —Remember the dot (t) 00:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Xiner (talk, email) 02:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Category:Orphaned images
Per the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Free but unwanted images, this category is not wanted or needed. —Remember the dot (t) 00:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Xiner (talk, email) 02:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)