Talk:Slovak noble families
What is this supposed to mean?
As in most regions of Europe, many of the families are of non-Slovak origin, many have also non-Slovak members and many of them have become (also) Hungarian etc. families.
By this statement, almost any family could be included under any ethnicity. What is the point of this article? To try and show every family in Central Europe as somehow Slovak?
-- This is indeed a pitiful attempt to invent non-existent history, many of these noblemen probably never thought that they would be referred to as Slovak one day.
This is a sad example of altering History! Most of the families have nothing to do with being Slovak. Actualy most of their descendents would be sad to hear that they are included !!! Slovakia never existed before WWI. If you think it otherwise look up any history book. Most of the nobles in Slovakia were German or Hungarian and no original reference states otherwise (of cource some have Slavic ancestry)--Csabap 04:19, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Gone after it, editor's choices cut out, good ones left in. No matter, that Slovak nobility never ever existed, since they were Hungarian nobles, with Slovak ethnicity/ancestry, so, therefore, in fact the whole category:Slovak nobility is wrong. :-) Creationism...--Vince hey, yo! :-) 03:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
No matter, that nobility was never ever divided by ethnicity, but by country, where they are nobles in :D --Vince hey, yo! :-) 03:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- Please, read the first sentence of the article before you remove its content. It clearly explains who is included in the list. Tankred 20:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I did, and read the sentence after it, wich is a LOL thing. Obviously you haven't read that (the second one), and what I wrote here, on the talkpage. This article is fully wrong. They were not Slovakian nobles, (and in fact Slovakian nobility never ever existed) but Hungarian nobles from the territory of present day Slovakia, some with ethnic Slovak background. I checked wich are Slovek from them, since the article's name is Slovak noble families, and it is pretty LOL to read in the second sentence, that some of them are not of slovak origin or backgound. I just cut them out. I improved the article's content, but you reverted it to a POV and obviously false version. I revert it to my version and I kindly ask you to use this discussion page.
And stop calling me a vandal. WP:CIV. Is this a big thing for you, to act civilized? --Vince hey, yo! :-) 22:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I gave a {{fact}} tag to only those, who are disputed/not proven, or I was unable to find a source. It is up to you or someone else, to find them. --Vince hey, yo! :-) 22:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- Blanking content of Wikipedia is vandalism. For example, you removed the Illésházy family from the list, though they lived in Trencin Castle in Slovakia for centuries. You also removed the most famous owner of Trencin Castle, Matthew Csák. You removed the Báthory family, as if their most famous member (Elizabeth Bathory) did not live and die in Cachtice Castle in Slovakia. History of Eastern Slovakia and the Amade family is completely overlapping. Kossúths were from the Slovak region of Turiec and some of them had a strong Slovak consciousness. You cannot just blank random items from a list. Stop it. Tankred 23:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)