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Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2017

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Article states that: "Roem was born and raised in Prince William County, Virginia,[2] the daughter of Marian and John Paul Roem."

The word "daughter" needs to be changed to "son" because if she was born a girl, and raised a girl, there would be no transgender transition.

" Roem came out as transgender in 2013,[2] having begun her transition the previous year.[7]"

The whole concept of transgenderism is about transitioning from one gender to another gender. It does not retroactively change what was in the past. This error of rewriting history, of semmingly seeking to change the reality of the past through creative use of wording describing the past, actually harms the credibility of transgender-rights advocacy. 172.58.11.136 (talk) 12:37, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how we do things here. See MOS:GENDERID. --ChiveFungi (talk) 13:04, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Please change, "She will be the first openly transgender person to serve in a state legislature.[5][6]," to, "She will be the first openly transgender person to serve in the Virginia state legislature.[5][6]"

Danica Roem is not the first openly transgender state rep. Althea Garrison was elected to the MA state leg in 1992. Please use more precise language (ie. in VA).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Althea_Garrison

146.189.21.200 (talk) 14:21, 8 November 2017 (UTC) 146.189.21.200 (talk) 14:21, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note, I think the distinction being made is that Roem was the first to be elected while campaigning as openly trans; it's my understanding that Garrison being trans wasn't known until after she was elected. I can't think of a good way to stay that in a non-clunky way in the lede, but you're right in that Roem won't be the first to serve openly. Addendum: And Stacie Laughton was elected while being out during her campaigning but she didn't actually serve, so that further complicates how the wording should be since it isn't just about winning an election. Umimmak (talk) 14:54, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Very fair, I do think it is important to not erase the history that Garrison represents. Maybe something along the lines of, "She won the first campaign running as an openly trans woman and will serve as Virginia's first trans legislator." I know it's still pretty clunky. 146.189.21.200 (talk) 15:02, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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