Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Cladogram requests

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Welcome to the Tree of Life Cladogram Request page

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Cladogram creators:

Templates:

  • {{Clade}}
    Default cladograms
  • {{Cladogram}}
    Boxed cladograms
  • {{Cladex}}
    Extended cladogram parameters

What is a cladogram:

  • A cladogram is an infographic that shows the relationships of scientific taxa. These can be useful to show how animals are related in almost any article on organisms.

What can have a cladogram:

  • Any article with enough information in the literature about its systematics can have a cladogram added. A single cladogram can be used on multiple articles.
    • Exception: Cladograms cannot be created in situations where the taxon has not appeared in at least one published analysis. Linnaean systematics cannot be translated into cladograms. Original research cladograms are not allowed.

Formats for cladograms:

  • The most significant features of cladograms can often be altered to fit specific articles with limited space.
  • The font size can be reduced with larger cladograms so that less space is taken up.
    • Default font size is 85% point size but can be changed between 75 and 100% upon request.
  • Line lengths affect how far the cladogram reaches across the page.
    • To fit images in the whitespace beside a cladogram with over 15 taxa a size below 90% is recommended, but sizes upwards that can be used to fill the cladogram across the whole article left-right.
  • Boxing a cladogram can allow for it to be positioned in line with text, and onto specific sides of a page.
    • Exception: Very large cladograms (~40+ taxa) should never be boxed, as they will take up far too much vertical space.
  • When specific formats are wanted please mention them in the cladogram request, otherwise Cladogram Creators will use their own discretion.

Images in cladograms:

  • Images like silhouettes or lateral views of skulls or life restorations can be added to cladograms
    • Note: when adding images, it is important to ensure that |middle is placed before the |thumb or equivalent, otherwise Firefox will render the images aligned to the bottom of the text and the taxon named will become uncentered.

Tips for Cladogram Creators:

  • Try to avoid edit conflicts by promptly replying to all requests that you intend to work on. Losing all your progress isn't fun.
  • Feel free to ask for help from others, we're all in this together.
  • Keep the OR rules in mind when creating cladograms. Don't add unpublished information to them.
  • Feel free to experiment with different features.


Requests

Titanichthys phylogeny

Back again, I saw this phylogenetic tree for Titanichthys, here. and I want to include said cladogram into Titanichthys, since there isn't one there yet. PlacodermReconstructions (talk) 06:55, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@PlacodermReconstructions: it took a while, but here it is —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 19:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Silesaurs as ornithischians

I'd like to show the recent cladogram finding silesaurs within Ornithischia in the Diodorus article, and it would also be handy in the Silesauridae article, which only shows the "traditional" non-dinosaur view. The paper is free here:[1], and it would be fig. 1 with everything but the lower green clade collapsed into major groups (Theropoda etc.). FunkMonk (talk) 20:27, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@FunkMonk: I'm working on it —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 20:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it might be nice to claim requests like this going forward. I've started on a few cladograms in the past without realizing they were already being worked on ;) Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 20:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would probably be good to add that in the top blurb as a guideline, then. FunkMonk (talk) 20:52, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Lythronaxargestes: Yeah, I've had that problem too lol —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 21:14, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@FunkMonk: Decided to base the cladogram on the more recent Norman et al. (2022) paper, which has a somewhat better sampling of ornithischians and adds a few new clades. Also, I excluded all the non-dinosaur groups, because the cladogram would be way too big otherwise. Hope it's okay —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 21:14, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Dinosauria
Oh yeah, that was probably the one I wanted in the first place, but could only find the older one, thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 21:17, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@FunkMonk: Just noticed that figure 6 of the paper has a version of the cladogram with more labels, which have now been added —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 21:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, was about to update the article, but seems you already did hehe. Will add it to Diodorus next time I expand it. I wonder if the two cladograms would work side by side (as in Elasmosaurus) to avoid white space, but perhaps wouldn't work since this one is much taller. FunkMonk (talk) 21:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Macraucheniidae cladogram

Hello, I am requesting that the cladogram from Püschel et al. 2023 be coded up. The image of the cladogram in question is here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10914-022-09646-0/figures/20. In addition, also demonstrate a paraphyletic Cramaucheniinae, from Pternoconius to Theosodon. The outgroup taxon is Tricoelodus. Thanks in advance. --Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 00:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Magnatyrannus: Which of the two cladograms in that figure do you want? I'm gonna assume you want the lower one, unless you're a fan of huge polytomies. —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 00:53, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, here it is anyway —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 01:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Tbh I'm not really a fan of polytomies, thank you. --Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 01:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Macraucheniidae
Cramaucheniinae
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