Talk:Conor McGregor: Difference between revisions

Nickname

There is a semi-official/unofficial nickname of Conor McGregor circulating on YouTube, spoken by a few MMA fighters, calling him "Mr. Confidence." Can you add it? I think Colby Covington said it.

 Not done: I don't think it is relevant enough to be added to the article. L293D (☎ • ✎) 20:07, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Small PP Billu Karahi (talk) 23:56, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2021

Change :

Corsica arrest On 10 September 2020, McGregor was arrested in Corsica on suspicion of attempted sexual assault and indecent exposure for an incident alleged to have taken place in a bar. After being held in custody for two days while being interviewed by police, he was released without charge.[268][269][270]

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Corsica arrest On 10 September 2020, McGregor was arrested in Corsica on suspicion of attempted sexual assault and indecent exposure for an incident alleged to have taken place in a bar. After being held in custody for two days while being interviewed by police, he was released without charge.[268][269][270]. Eight months later, French authorities dropped the investigation due to insufficient evidence. Bestmodever (talk) 08:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:35, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2021

change weight to 170lbs 109.237.2.76 (talk) 21:35, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:42, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2021

2405:6E00:133B:D100:E052:B861:59B3:F0B (talk) 02:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

McGregor's full name is Conor Anthony Christopher McGregor

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Living Concrete (talk) 04:20, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2021

broke his ankle -> broke his LEG 78.141.59.78 (talk) 13:19, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2021

I would just change the reason for defeat in his third fight with Poirer to 'TKO (Doctor's stoppage due to leg injury)', as that was the official reason. 159.196.170.44 (talk) 03:12, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 03:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

 Undone: This request has been undone. By User:Cassiopeia. ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 04:15, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Why was this request undone? AgentStark (talk) 07:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

The fight method is as per Sherdog based on Wikipedia WP:MMA guidelines. Sherdog lists the fight result as "TKO (Leg injury)" ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 08:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done again. The fight stoppage was due to doctor's intervention. As was/is already referenced in the article. The Reliable Sources Noticeboard has already ruled that sources other than Sherdog can be used in MMA articles, and specifically in this one. (If sherdog isn't listing the official reason for stoppage, maybe it's not that reliable?) Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:48, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

NEDOCHAN, I invite you to self-revert, then discuss, per WP:BRD. Stop edit-warring. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:49, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

WP:MMA says:

In the column Method, unless sources within the body text of the article state otherwise, always use the result that is available in a fighter's record at Sherdog Fight Finder. Do not use your interpretation of a fight result in the record, as the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. Any result that is not referenced or that is not the same as in Sherdog, must be returned to how it is described in Sherdog.

Not ambiguous. NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:51, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Exactly. Please do not revert the text from the result "TKO (Leg injury)" again. ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 09:56, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

I didn't, I restored the version as per Sherdog. Bastun changed it.NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:58, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Bastun - I really don't want an argument. Please read the following from WP:MMA:

In the column Method, unless sources within the body text of the article state otherwise, always use the result that is available in a fighter's record at Sherdog Fight Finder. Do not use your interpretation of a fight result in the reEDOCHAN|NEDOCHAN]] (talk) 09:50, 12 July 2021 (UTC)cord, as the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. Any result that is not referenced or that is not the same as in Sherdog, must be returned to how it is described in Sherdog.

Thanks. NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:50, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Copied the above from my talk page, where it was posted for some odd reason. Why post that there, rather than here?

Response to it: It's lovely, but it's completely unenforceable - who agreed to that? How many editors? When and where? A dead Wikiproject? You are well aware that the Reliable Sources Noticeboard already ruled you can't limit MMA sources to Sherdog, and ESPN is a reliable source. I did not add my own interpretation, as you claim. If Sherdog isn't reporting the official causes of fights ending, maybe it's just not so reliable? Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:59, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

It is the official result. That's why it's there. NEDOCHAN (talk) 10:00, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Somehow I didn't notice it was a dead Wikiproject. @Bastun makes good points. However my edit was initially reverted by @Cassiopeia, citing the same reason as @NEDOCHAN on my talk page actually about WP:MMA. ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 10:08, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

It'd also be great, Bastun, if you stopped needlessly insulting a WikiProject of which you're not a member and to which you have never contributed every time you come to a page about Conor McGregor. There are lots of us who do lots of work and it'd be appreciated if you stopped slagging us off.NEDOCHAN (talk) 10:06, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

The WP hasn't been updated since 2007... ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 10:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject MMA is alive and well, thanks.NEDOCHAN (talk) 10:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts&action=historyNEDOCHAN (talk) 10:12, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

The project is moribund at best. The fact that you use it in your argument is why I have to reference it. The result sherdog reports is not the official result. The result ESPN reports is. I'd also like to remind editors of this: There are arguments both for and against the reliability of this source. Editors who considered the source less reliable cited lack of reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, while those in favor cited its agreement with ESPN as an indication of fact-checking and accuracy per WP:RS. Overall, however, the consensus seems to be that the source is less reliable than ESPN and other sources rated generally reliable, but does not count as a self-published source under WP:SPS. Some editors believe that Sherdog is reliable for some basic information, especially fight information and results, but not other information. Overall, the consensus is that the source should be used with caution, on a case-by-case basis. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 13:39, 28 November 2020 (UTC) source.

This was the result of a substantive RfC at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard about sherdog. Note the bit about it's reliability deriving from its partnership from ESPN? Your ownership of this article is getting tiresome at this stage. Again, I invite you to self-revert. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

The pageviews have been about 10 per day for the past five years. ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 10:17, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

FormalDude, that has nothing to do with anything. Bastun. Even the quote above, which was a non-admin closure of an RFC started by a sock and contained three different socks of the same user voting in it, still says that for fight records there is consensus for them to be as per Sherdog. I won't revert and I'd ask you not to either. The official result is NOT what it says in ESPN. The official result is TKO (injury). Sherdog and other sources often say what was injured, for posterity. https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/ufc-264-results-highlights-dustin-poirier-scores-tko-victory-after-conor-mcgregor-suffers-leg-injury/live/NEDOCHAN (talk) 10:21, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

It shows the level of activity in the WikiProject, as does the revision history you tagged: it's very low. Regardless, I restored Bastun's edit because it is the more WP:RS. ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 10:26, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

I have no idea whether or not any participants in the RfC were socks. Non-admin closures are perfectly fine. That RfC result absolutely stands, until such time as there's another, with a different ruling. Even if the WP:MMA instruction above carried more weight than the RfC (it doesn't), it states In the column Method, unless sources within the body text of the article state otherwise, always use the result... (my emphasis added). So, as the body and the source in the body do indeed say otherwise - get on with the reverting, NEDOCHAN. Also please stop with the ownership and WP:BATTLEGROUND behaviour. We are literally talking about the addition of a couple of words, sourced, to a reliable source, which are entirely accurate. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:29, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Can I include recent controversy of Conor McGregor .

Conor McGregor commented on Dustin Poreir's wife , shown on twitter some screenshots of Instagram requests of Porior's wife. Huge Earth (talk) 05:36, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Trash talk isn't controversial in the same sense as the other examples. Not notable.NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:55, 12 July 2021 (UTC)