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The Disney movie, ''[[Frozen (2013 film)|Frozen]]'', has the coronation scene, and the bonus short video has the wedding scene. But neither of them depicts the Christian cross. Is it trying to depict the culture as secular or pagan? If they were intentionally trying to remove religion, then why not just avoid having a coronation ceremony or wedding ceremony that resembles that in the Roman Catholic Church and theological descendants (Protestants and et cetera)? [[Special:Contributions/140.254.136.179|140.254.136.179]] ([[User talk:140.254.136.179|talk]]) 13:56, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
The Disney movie, ''[[Frozen (2013 film)|Frozen]]'', has the coronation scene, and the bonus short video has the wedding scene. But neither of them depicts the Christian cross. Is it trying to depict the culture as secular or pagan? If they were intentionally trying to remove religion, then why not just avoid having a coronation ceremony or wedding ceremony that resembles that in the Roman Catholic Church and theological descendants (Protestants and et cetera)? [[Special:Contributions/140.254.136.179|140.254.136.179]] ([[User talk:140.254.136.179|talk]]) 13:56, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
:I imagine that the reason is that Arrendelle is not set in the real world, and thus Christianity doesn't exist there. Also it avoids potential issues selling the film in foreign markets. I'd imagine they based it on things like the coronation of Queen Elizabeth, but removing the religious elements while keeping the pomp and circumstance. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 14:47, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
:I imagine that the reason is that Arrendelle is not set in the real world, and thus Christianity doesn't exist there. Also it avoids potential issues selling the film in foreign markets. I'd imagine they based it on things like the coronation of Queen Elizabeth, but removing the religious elements while keeping the pomp and circumstance. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 14:47, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
:Start with the [[null hypothesis]] and don't look for the lack of evidence to mean the evidence of lack. By that I mean that you start with no assumptions at all: start with the fact that ''you don't know the stance of the film creators on religion one way or the other''. Then, if there is no evidence to refute the null hypothesis (that you don't know one way or the other), then you can make no statements, even in the negative, which change that null hypothesis. The lack of religious elements doesn't positively prove the scene is pagan OR christian. It is merely a lack of evidence, and lacks of evidence cannot be used to move one off of a state of uncertainty. Since you know no more about your question because you have no evidence to push to one way or another, you still don't know. Getting more comfortable with your inability to know something is a [[Dunning-Kruger effect|sign of intelligence]]. --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 16:34, 10 December 2015 (UTC)


== 1930s American actress Barbara Weeks ==
== 1930s American actress Barbara Weeks ==

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December 3

Can you identify the song used in this commercial?

Can you identify the song used in this commercial? Thanks. Contact Basemetal here 20:47, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My Mistake by NINA. AlexiusHoratius 20:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) The google application on my cell phone listened to it and identified it as "My Mistake" by NINA. here is the official video. --Jayron32
I forgot to thank you guys. So thanks. Note this NINA is not Nina (singer) but a German singer w/ no WP article. Contact Basemetal here 23:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect we could use an article about her then... --Jayron32 01:13, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

December 5

Zero Tolerance end song

What song is playing at the end of 2015 film Zero Tolerance, during the threesome pool scene? Couldn't find by lyrics and Shazam didn't recognize. Thanks. 93.174.25.12 (talk) 15:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Classification of "1989"

Does the iPod/iTunes software label Taylor Swift's album 1989 "country", or "pop"? Thanks. Khemehekis (talk) 23:08, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Read for yourself. --Jayron32 23:23, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, cool! iTunes puts info on the albums online! And I see that it is labeled pop. Khemehekis (talk) 23:37, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

December 7

How to become a model in Rio de Janeiro?

How to become a model in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil? How to begin a career in modeling? Sophia.castro1 (talk) 00:47, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What type of model? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots13:29, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you are referring to a fashion model, here in the States we have schools that teach modeling. Topics covered include some basic makeup skills, how to walk, etc. You might be able to find something of that sort in Brazil. Dismas|(talk) 16:54, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
One caution is that criminals may well use a modeling agency as a pretext to gain access to pretty young women, to force them into prostitution, etc., so I suggest you always bring your parents with you. StuRat (talk) 22:16, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is there's collective term for songwriters, audio engineers, and record producers?

I think it's best to call them staff members or if I can make up the portmanteau word, it would be writenginducers (after writers, engineers, and producers), which is not great and hard to say. What do you think and what would you refer for these? PlanetStar 08:43, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Would Recording industry personnel be too vague? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 14:41, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That would be too vague. PlanetStar 23:24, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
They could all be called producers, broadly, since these shadowy figures make the music the performers perform under the bright lights. Prowritineers is slightly more catchy, if you must go that route. "Staff members" might work, if they're all in-house employees, but it doesn't sound right for contractors and would also include the studio janitor. He's a good dude, but has minimal input.
"Production crew", I suppose. As long as you're already talking in a music context, it shouldn't make people think dollys, grips and other mysterious film folk. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:46, December 7, 2015 (UTC)
Colloquially, maybe "the office". Works for a lot of industries, to distinguish from "the talent", but nothing particularly musical about it. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:51, December 7, 2015 (UTC)
Actually, the term "shadowy figures" seems like a good choice. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:24, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
They have such different duties that it's very unlikely that they'd be lumped together enough to get a distinct label. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:56, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
From my days working with bands, I'd say the term in the UK is generally "backroom boys" (even the girls are called that). This usage goes back to World War 2 - a Marlene Dietrich song referenced it in a different context but the thought is the same. --TammyMoet (talk) 21:23, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

movies set in ancient arabia

Hello. More than 15 years ago, I saw a movie in the TV which I can't remember it's name, but I remember that in a scene, some Arab (or Arab-dressed) man reached a spring that was located on the heart of the mountains. They were very thirsty, but there were a few snakes in the spring, making it hard and dangerous to drink the water. Also they had to bring some water for their friends. I think they had an argument over who should go ahead and fill the jugs. But finally they managed to fill their jugs with caution. This is all I remember by now, and it is one of the most breathtaking scenes I have seen in a movie. I don't now if the movie was set in pre-Islamic Arabia or in the Islamic era, I suspect that it was somewhat related to early Islam. I would be thankful if someone tell me the name of the movie. 19:19, 7 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.224.81.73 (talk)

Sorry, I have no idea, but we do have a few categories you might want to peruse to see if anything strikes you as familiar: films set in Saudi Arabia, Films set in deserts. Incidentally, the spring you mention would more commonly be referred to as an oasis, which might help your search. 64.235.97.146 (talk) 20:34, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note that Arabia looked pretty much the same from 100 years ago to thousands of years ago. Until oil wealth, that is. Hence many scenes in Lawrence of Arabia, while set around WW1, could be easily mistaken for scenes from a movie set thousands of years earlier (with exceptions for the attack on the train, for example). StuRat (talk) 22:12, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
After the oil money came in, the mountains, oases and dunes stayed looking as they do. Even the outskirts of Riyadh may as well be a million years old. Forests, cities and humans are relatively fly-by-night operations. As to the question, I'll take a shot in the dark with The 7th Voyage of Sinbad. I don't remember much about that film, either, so it's got that in common with the OP's. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:06, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
I don't recall any scene like that in that particular movie. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This comprehensive list contains many more movies than in our own Category:Films about snakes. It also has a pic and brief description for each film. I browsed it for a film about snakes in a spring, but nothing (except lurking cobras) jumped out at me. You may have better luck. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 20:09, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

December 9

Should I Play Call Of Duty?

I know Call Of Duty is a pretty popular FPS shooter, although I'm not sure if it's worth to buy it or not. Can someone list cons and pros of playing and buying Call Of Duty? Thanks for reading this! FiendYT (talk) 03:39, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a list of reviews at metacritic [1] for black ops III. I don't know if you should play it or not - that's not really something we can address with references. I will say that in my opinion, COD is hard to get the hang of for people who are not already very experienced in FPS. It also depends on what you want to do. For example, if you want to play online against other humans, I might recommend Starwars Battlefront or Titanfall instead - they are relatively easy to pick up (especially Battlefront), but they don't have any single-player campaign modes. If you really like playing cooperative and single-player missions, you might check out Destiny_(video game), which is sort of an FPS/MMORPG mix, and it may well keep you entertained longer than COD. So it really depends on what type of FPS action you're interested in, what your budget is, maybe even what system you plan to play on. Finally, you may check out gamefly or other rental services, that way you can play a bit of a game before you commit to paying full price for it. SemanticMantis (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Out of date information on Sarah Kerrigan page.

To whom it may concern,

I am writing as a Starcraft II player and fan of Sarah Kerrigan. I noticed that her Wikipedia page is out of date for the latest expansion Legacy of the Void. Her species was listed as "Infested Terran" (permalink: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Kerrigan&oldid=693391036), when at the end of the game (although it is ambiguous whether Kerrigan is considered a Terran again, or if she is a Xel'Naga as she was when Kerrigan defeated Amon) Sarah Kerrigan is most clearly not an infested Terran. Here is the starcraft wiki page on Sarah Kerrigan. Also, you can look through the campaign of Legacy of the Void to check my claim. [1]

Thanks, Wikipedia User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.28.251.124 (talk) 03:49, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you have valid sources you could do the updates yourself. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:08, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

December 10

Am I missing an important film?

On December 25, 1948, the first true (meaning glasses-free) stereoscopic footage in live-action and full color premiered at an autostereoscopic cinema in russia called the Stereokino (or maybe it was called the Vostokkino). This footage belongs to the film Crystals. I wasn't born until the 1980s, so I can't see Crystals anymore. Because a cinema won't show the same film permanently. So that would mean that the Stereokino is not showing Crystals anymore. The first true stereoscopic live-action full color footage that was meant to be enjoyed permanently was a special episode (June 7, 2011) of GameCenter CX which a download for the Nintendo 3DS (once the episode's downloaded, you can keep it permanently on your Nintendo 3DS). The title of this episode was Arino's Challenge 3D (3D Classics: Excitebike). I am enjoying watching this special GameCenter CX episode. But I still was not able to see Crystals when it was released. It was the first time true stereoscopic live-action full color footage was publicly available (albeit not permanently), so am I missing an important film? Ebaillargeon82 (talk) 06:52, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Disney movies and religion

The Disney movie, Frozen, has the coronation scene, and the bonus short video has the wedding scene. But neither of them depicts the Christian cross. Is it trying to depict the culture as secular or pagan? If they were intentionally trying to remove religion, then why not just avoid having a coronation ceremony or wedding ceremony that resembles that in the Roman Catholic Church and theological descendants (Protestants and et cetera)? 140.254.136.179 (talk) 13:56, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine that the reason is that Arrendelle is not set in the real world, and thus Christianity doesn't exist there. Also it avoids potential issues selling the film in foreign markets. I'd imagine they based it on things like the coronation of Queen Elizabeth, but removing the religious elements while keeping the pomp and circumstance. -mattbuck (Talk) 14:47, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Start with the null hypothesis and don't look for the lack of evidence to mean the evidence of lack. By that I mean that you start with no assumptions at all: start with the fact that you don't know the stance of the film creators on religion one way or the other. Then, if there is no evidence to refute the null hypothesis (that you don't know one way or the other), then you can make no statements, even in the negative, which change that null hypothesis. The lack of religious elements doesn't positively prove the scene is pagan OR christian. It is merely a lack of evidence, and lacks of evidence cannot be used to move one off of a state of uncertainty. Since you know no more about your question because you have no evidence to push to one way or another, you still don't know. Getting more comfortable with your inability to know something is a sign of intelligence. --Jayron32 16:34, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1930s American actress Barbara Weeks

I have encountered some puzzling information about Barbara Weeks, who was an American actress in the 1930s. Wikipedia's article about her says, "she married the Lockheed test pilot Lewis Parker in 1938." Although the article didn't provide a citation, I found an online obituary that supports the statement. Also, a website has excerpts from an interview with Weeks in which she says about Parker, "He was transferred to Japan for a year, so it wasn’t until December 4, 1938, that we married in Yuma, AZ."

Here is the puzzling element: The Dec. 1, 1938, issue of the trade publication Broadcasting contains the statement, "CARL FRANK announcer of Original Good Will Hour on WGN -MBS, on Nov. 26 married Barbara Weeks, star of Her Honor, Nancy James."

How could Weeks have married two men within about a week (unless she committed bigamy, which would certainly have made news)? On the other hand, it doesn't seem likely that two actresses -- one in film and one in radio -- would have had the same name.

I had begun adding some information about Weeks' radio career to the article, but I am reluctant to continue doing so until I can find out more about the apparent discrepancy. If anyone reading this has access to reference material that would clarify the situation, I will appreciate your help. Eddie Blick (talk) 14:18, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It took a *lot* of searching and I ran into the same problems on the way (including wading through a Walter Winchell column) but there were two Barbara Weeks who were actresses with the other active on radio (and was quite well-known), which led to confusion when the other actress died in 1954. Here's a link to an excerpt from a book "The Sound of Silence" by Michael G. Ankerich on Google. (link) FlowerpotmaN·(t) 15:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rhapsody In Blue - George Gershwin 1924

I love this composition as many do. It's a long piece, about 19 minutes. It's semi-classical in nature. What was Gershwin trying to convey to his listeners when he wrote this? It is unique and unusual in that nothing has ever been written that resembles this in it's style and complexity. The piano solos, the best part, in my opinion, are played all over the place from the bottom of the keyboard to the top. Does anyone have any comments? Thank you.Rcrmartin (talk) 15:22, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Does this or this or this or this help?--Jayron32 16:30, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]