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Hi {{PAGENAME}}!. Every attempt to rescue a Wikipedia article is a noble gesture. However, there may be occasions when, with the best will in the world, it is just not possible to accord even a minimum of notability to an article or stub, or find a proper source for it. Most regrettably, even the most dedicated inclusionists will have to concede that the article may have to go if the creator or major contributors cannot justify their work.<br>
Hi {{PAGENAME}}!. Every attempt to rescue a Wikipedia article is a noble gesture. However, there may be occasions when, with the best will in the world, it is just not possible to accord even a minimum of notability to an article or stub, or find a proper source for it. Most regrettably, even the most dedicated inclusionists will have to concede that the article may have to go if the creator or major contributors cannot justify their work.<br>
For new and recent unsourced BLPs, some users are now working at [[WT:BLP PROD TPL]] on the development of templates that are designed to encourage contributors to source new BLPs, without scaring away the newbies who might not be aware of the rules. This template is certainly not another a licence to kill for the deletionists, in fact the very idea of it is to ensure that you are not fighting a losing battle. It would be great if you could look in at the prgogress and maybe leave a word of encouragement. The workshop page is essentially a template development taskforce, and is not a place to engage in a hefty debate on incusion/deletion policy. See you at [[WT:BLP PROD TPL]]?--[[User:Kudpung|Kudpung]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 13:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
For new and recent unsourced BLPs, some users are now working at [[WT:BLP PROD TPL]] on the development of templates that are designed to encourage contributors to source new BLPs, without scaring away the newbies who might not be aware of the rules. This template is certainly not another a licence to kill for the deletionists, in fact the very idea of it is to ensure that you are not fighting a losing battle. It would be great if you could look in at the prgogress and maybe leave a word of encouragement. The workshop page is essentially a template development taskforce, and is not a place to engage in a hefty debate on incusion/deletion policy. See you at [[WT:BLP PROD TPL]]?--[[User:Kudpung|Kudpung]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 13:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Redact or retract your latest accusation ==

Redact your latest accusation about me, made at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Statement_by_Okip:_Arbitration_reaps_what_it_sows]] and make no further counterfactual claims or accusations against me, or I may choose to pursue further steps in dispute resolution. As a note, I am [[User:Lar/Accountability|recallable]]. I expect you are eligible to initiate a petition under my criteria, but if not, I specifically waive the eligibility requirement in your particular case. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 17:52, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

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Saw your table, and posted a comment on statistics for this sort of polling. Just wanted to see if you had any thoughts. (Like I say, I think in this case, the point I raise is moot, but it might matter in other polls, like Phase I). -- Bfigura (talk) 05:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also responded somewhere in the RfC to a comment you made about one of my !votes, but I forget exactly where. Best, -- Bfigura (talk) 05:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UBLP flags

aerica beats conch republic. hope you don't mind my assigning flags to people, thought you would like the presidential one.

i was kinda responding to WTmitchell's not wanting to use unique flags per the WikiCup, you can pick any image to stand in for you, Vexillology, it is prettier than a list of names. Pohick2 (talk) 14:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Re above: what information do you need for the bot to run? Answer on my talk page (unusually for me...). Thanks --Jubilee♫clipman 19:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Answering self but need verification: I just add the project to the list by the looks of it (using the template provided if we need to specify the subpage or widen the seach terms). Correct? Answer here since the info may well help others!  ;) --Jubilee♫clipman 23:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tim, who created the bot, still needs final approval. [4] I would suggest asking him for final approval. Okip 12:14, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Will do --Jubilee♫clipman 15:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The National Federation of Coffee Growers of Colombia

Hi Okip, I just noticed that the article on the National Federation of Coffee Growers of Colombia was modified on February 20, 2010, at 16:00 by an editor VickyMa, deleting all my contributions with total disregard and without any comment, justification or reason; in my opinion, with total contempt. What should I do here to have my contributions inserted back into the article? I don’t want to do so just on my own initiative in order to avoid any argument or confrontation. Should I ask for comment RFC? Or what do you suggest I do? Please advice. Thanks,--Grancafé (talk) 18:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the heads-up on the closing proposals -- Boing! said Zebedee 04:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

do you really think this is a jimbo whales problem? ain't he just going along with the Weltanschauung: i.e. it's not the individual, but the movement. ain't it the Peter Principle, they can't pull off Götterdämmerung, so the insurgents will make lemonade of the lemons. Pohick2 (talk) 00:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Little Eichmanns, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Little Eichmanns. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Prezbo (talk) 01:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copied from user talk:Ikip (if you dont want me to keep doing this, let me know and I'll stop ... Im doing it for lots of other inactive/name0changed users too, not just you) Soap 01:59, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks very much for taking the time to recognize the good faith efforts of your fellow editors. That's very kind of you and help improve the editing environment by promoting collegiality and goodwill. Kudos. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Userrights

Hey, just wanted to let you know I removed the flags from your Ikip account. Hope you don't mind. –Juliancolton | Talk 21:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BLP debate

Hi Okip! If there is any consensus at at all, it is that the entire discussion has become a tangled confusion, and as a result both proponents and opponents of the issues under discussion are abandoning ship. None of us want this. It is still not clear which way consensus will fall and your contributions to the discussion are invaluable. However, In an attempt to keep the policy discussion on an even track, some users have decided to start the ball rolling for clarity by creating a special workshop pages. The first of these is for the technical development of a template at WT:BLP PROD TPL in case policy is decided for it . The taskforce pages are designed keep irrelevant stuff off the policy discussion and talk page, and help a few of us to move this whole debate towards a decision of some kind or another. The pages will be linked in a way that watchers will still find their way to them. This move is not intended to influence any policy whatsoever; It is to keep the discussion pages focussed on the separate issues. Cheers. --Kudpung (talk) 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BLP sticky PROD

Hi Okip!. Every attempt to rescue a Wikipedia article is a noble gesture. However, there may be occasions when, with the best will in the world, it is just not possible to accord even a minimum of notability to an article or stub, or find a proper source for it. Most regrettably, even the most dedicated inclusionists will have to concede that the article may have to go if the creator or major contributors cannot justify their work.
For new and recent unsourced BLPs, some users are now working at WT:BLP PROD TPL on the development of templates that are designed to encourage contributors to source new BLPs, without scaring away the newbies who might not be aware of the rules. This template is certainly not another a licence to kill for the deletionists, in fact the very idea of it is to ensure that you are not fighting a losing battle. It would be great if you could look in at the prgogress and maybe leave a word of encouragement. The workshop page is essentially a template development taskforce, and is not a place to engage in a hefty debate on incusion/deletion policy. See you at WT:BLP PROD TPL?--Kudpung (talk) 13:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redact or retract your latest accusation

Redact your latest accusation about me, made at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Statement_by_Okip:_Arbitration_reaps_what_it_sows and make no further counterfactual claims or accusations against me, or I may choose to pursue further steps in dispute resolution. As a note, I am recallable. I expect you are eligible to initiate a petition under my criteria, but if not, I specifically waive the eligibility requirement in your particular case. ++Lar: t/c 17:52, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]