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===={{la|Jimmy Pardo}}===='''semi-protect'''. High level of IP vandalism. [[User:Areynol2|Areynol2]] 06:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
====[[Wikipedia:Service awards]]====

The service awards were proposed in July 2006, with the relevant discussions being [[Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals/Archive11#Editor_service_awards|here]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29&oldid=69331929#Service_awards here]. Inspection of both reveals 50/50 for and against, and it seems that the proposal was archived early by Ed. Herostratus, the founder and maintainer of the awards, refuses to resubmit this to Proposed Awards, apparently because he [[Wikipedia_talk:Awards#re_WP:SERVICE_awards|fears delisting]], so I am forced to bring this here. I find an award given on the basis of people rather than edits kinda worrying, and somewhat against the principles of Wikipedia (people don't matter, edits do). I don't really think this has a place on Wikipedia. [[User:Dev920|Dev920]] (Have a nice day!) 21:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

*'''Very strong need to keep''' - we have plenty of awards that are given out because the giver subjectively thinks that the recipeint should receive them. We need these awards, which have refreshingly objective criteria, to keep a balance. [[User:Johntex|'''Johntex''']]\<sup>[[User_talk:Johntex|talk]]</sup> 23:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Jimmy Pardo''' is a [[Chicago]]-born comedian of [[Italian people|Italian]] descent, married to [[Danielle Koenig]], and is best known for his quick and witty style. His material ranges from world problems to personal problems, some of which is displayed on his half-hour [[Comedy Central Presents]] special. He also hosted [[Game Show Network|GSN]]'s ''[[National Lampoon]]'s Funny Money'' from June to October 2003. In 2006, Pardo entered the podcast arena with "Never Not Funny", which he co-hosts with producer Matt Belknap. Pardo has appeared on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" as well as several appearances on "The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson".
*'''Keep''' This gives an idea where users are at in terms of service though some users have more edits than time (or vice versa) than others. [[User:Miller17CU94|Chris]] 22:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<small>This comment moved from [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards]] by [[User:Johntex|'''Johntex''']]\<sup>[[User_talk:Johntex|talk]]</sup> 01:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)</small>

''&#91;The following comment was [[:Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards|misfiled]], and has been copied here.&#93;''
Despite being almost constantly asked about it, he is in no way related to [[Don Pardo]], announcer of [[Saturday Night Live]].
:<s>I think you're voting on the wrong MfD. In any case,</s> if users want to show how many edits they have and how long they've been here, they can via a userbox. See my page, for example, where I have both. [[User:Dev920|Dev920]] (Have a nice day!) 23:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

''&#91;End copy.&#93;''

:*'''Comment''': Dev920, by that reasoning we should also delete all barnstars, since people can recognize others' edits and other activities with simple messages on their talk pages. We should also delete all userboxes, since basic prose, like "This user has been a wikipedian since (date)" could be used instead. Etc. Just because something can be done one way doesn't militate against the idea of having alternative ways of doing it. &mdash; <span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span> &#91;[[User_talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|contrib]]&#93;</span> <span style="color: #990000; font-weight: bold;">ツ</span> 01:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
==Awards==
*'''Strong keep'''. Do not agree with nom's reasoning at all. If nom wanted this listed at "Barnstar and award proposals", and main page-author did not do it, nom should have done it instead of punitively MfDing it. Especially since known support level for the template by nom's own admission is ca. 50% as of middle of last year and almost certainly higher now, since page has multiple editors at this point. Don't agree with deletion rationale either. By that reasoning, user pages themselves (the only place these templates are used) should all be deleted too. I think nom is confusing Wikipedian principles for article writing and policy formation, on the one hand, with user page twiddling, on the other. &mdash; <span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span> &#91;[[User_talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|contrib]]&#93;</span> <span style="color: #990000; font-weight: bold;">ツ</span> 01:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
*Never Not Funny was nominated for a [http://2006.weblogawards.org/2006/11/nominations_best_podcast.php 2006 Weblog Award].
*'''Keep''' I see no reason at all why this page should be stricken from the project. There are lots of awards for all sorts of things in the project and I don't see why these should be banned. Is the problem that there is some reason why this should be moved from WP to some other namespace? Even if there is consensus at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards]] to not allow it to be added to {{tl|Barnstarpages}}, I would see no reason that it could not stand alone. --[[User:After Midnight|After Midnight]] <sup><small>[[User talk:After Midnight|0001]]</small></sup> 01:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
*Never Not Funny was made one of iTunes' "Best in 2006" podcasts.
:*'''Comment''': See [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards|immediately below in the MfD listings]]. Someone is trying to "punish" WikiProject Awards by MfDing the entire project! Anyway, given the [[WP:SNOWBALL]]'s chance that that MfD has, the issue could be taken up at WikiProject Awards, but it should be noted that the Wikipedia service awards were never intended to be a form of barnstar; they are a different animal completly. &mdash; <span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span> &#91;[[User_talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|contrib]]&#93;</span> <span style="color: #990000; font-weight: bold;">ツ</span> 01:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
*Has been called by one of the top 5 club comics in the country
*'''Strong keep'''. This is an adorable page, constructed with care and good humor. It's also a progressive set of barnstar-like awards that absolutely anybody can earn just by being active. It's the perfect answer to ''barnstar envy'' that some people might feel and gives users something to shoot for. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Durova|<span style="color:#009">Durova</span>]]</font><sup>''[[User talk:Durova|Charge!]]''</sup> 02:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''. Awards have an approval process now? That is so stupid. Anyway, people most certainly ''are'' important, becasue they're the ones who make the edits. -[[User:Amarkov|Amarkov]] <small>[[User_talk:Amarkov|moo!]]</small> 04:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
==Trivia==
*'''Delete'''. I am going to go against the tide here. These awards are pointless. Any user can state on their user page how many edits they have and how long they have been on WP, and take up less apace than these do. --[[User:Bduke|Bduke]] 10:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
*His nickname is "The Shooter".
:Question: How is that differenet from any userbox - the user can just add text to describer themselves? Same with barnstars - why not just leave a note for the person? [[User:Johntex|'''Johntex''']]\<sup>[[User_talk:Johntex|talk]]</sup> 14:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
*Pardo has declared himself "America's Hair Dad".
*'''Strong Keep''' Since Barnstars and the like are awarded on the basis of either acts of particular merit or continuous service in a particular field, it seems only fair that there should be general service awards as well. Every other organisation that awards medals of some description has those for general service. In any case they are entirely voluntary and nobody is forced to display one if they don't want to. [[User:A1octopus|A1octopus]] 16:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
*Although the comedian has a sordid history with alcohol abuse, Pardo now "keeps his temple clean."
*'''Keep.''' I originated the page so I'm biased, I guess. Anyway, my argument is: these are presumably motivational at least for some editors. They certainly don't do any ''harm'', and editors who find them unpleasing may ignore them. There is a reason that many organizations do have service awards. For the motivation, morale, and development of a large volunteer organization, they are helpful - that is my opinion, but it is based in accepted organizational development practice. They are specifically structured to require time in harness, with a reasonable amount of edits to show active status, to avoid the calumny of promoting "editcountitis" (the danger of which is overblown anyway, in my opinion). [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] 16:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

*'''Strong Keep''' Are you kidding?!? I love these awards. What a great way to get new users excited about wikipedia. These awards have given me incentive to become MORE involved in wikipeda so that I can meet the requirements to get the next one. Now, I wouldn't mind someone implementing a rule where the awards are taken away if the person who gave it to themeself doesn't deserve it. For instance, I'm not quite sure [[User:Lapinmies]] deserves Master Editor status. It may also be a good idea to increase the number of eidts required even more (since some people might consider correcting a spelling error that THEY made as an edit). However, this award system is wonderful, I can now throw myself a bone instead of waiting around for somebody to notice all the work I'm doing on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_Senators_by_seniority Category:United States Senators by seniority].--[[User:Dr who1975|Dr who1975]] 20:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
== External links ==
*'''Keep''' So what if it can be done with Userboxes, barnstars, plain text, whatever? There's no rule saying every has to do things in the same way. These are a nice way of acknowledging the contributions of editors. As for the claim of "people don't matter, edits do", if that is the case, why have user pages at all? [[User:Koweja|Koweja]] 20:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
*[http://www.jimmypardo.com Jimmy Pardo's Website]
*'''Keep''' An editor can reward themselves for their number of edits they have made. Others, however, should not judge an editor on the amount of edits they have made. --[[User:Sony-youth|<span style="font-family:Zapfino, sans-serif">sony-youth</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Sony-youth|talk]]</sup> 22:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
*[http://onetrickpony.ws/jimmy_pardo January 2006 Interview]
*[http://podcast.jimmypardo.com Jimmy Pardo's "Never Not Funny" Podcast]


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Jimmy Pardo is a Chicago-born comedian of Italian descent, married to Danielle Koenig, and is best known for his quick and witty style. His material ranges from world problems to personal problems, some of which is displayed on his half-hour Comedy Central Presents special. He also hosted GSN's National Lampoon's Funny Money from June to October 2003. In 2006, Pardo entered the podcast arena with "Never Not Funny", which he co-hosts with producer Matt Belknap. Pardo has appeared on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" as well as several appearances on "The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson".

Despite being almost constantly asked about it, he is in no way related to Don Pardo, announcer of Saturday Night Live.


Awards

  • Never Not Funny was nominated for a 2006 Weblog Award.
  • Never Not Funny was made one of iTunes' "Best in 2006" podcasts.
  • Has been called by one of the top 5 club comics in the country

Trivia

  • His nickname is "The Shooter".
  • Pardo has declared himself "America's Hair Dad".
  • Although the comedian has a sordid history with alcohol abuse, Pardo now "keeps his temple clean."
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