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'''Otto van Veen''', also known by his [[Latin]]ized name '''Otto Venius''' or '''Octavius Vaenius''' (1556 – 6 May 1629), was a [[Painting|painter]], [[Drawing|draughtsman]], and [[Humanism|humanist]] active primarily in [[Antwerp]] and [[Brussels]] in the late 16th and early 17th centuries. He is known for running a large studio in Antwerp, producing several [[emblem book]]s, and for being, from 1594 or 1595 until 1598, [[Peter Paul Rubens]]' teacher. His role as a [[Classical education movement|classically educated]] humanist artist (a ''pictor doctus''), reflected in the Latin name by which he is often known, Octavius Vaenius, was influential on the young Rubens, who would take on that role himself.<ref>Belkin (1998): 26–28.</ref><br />
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==Life==<br />
Van Veen was born around 1556 in Leiden, where his father, Cornelis Jansz. van Veen (1519–1591), had been [[Burgomaster]].<ref name="Van de Velde">Van de Velde.</ref> He probably was a pupil of [[Isaac Claesz van Swanenburg]] until October 1572, when the [[Roman Catholicism|Catholic]] family moved to Antwerp, and then to [[Liège]]. He studied for a time under [[Dominicus Lampsonius]] and [[Jean Ramey]], before traveling to [[Rome]] around 1574 or 1575. He stayed there for about five years, perhaps studying with [[Federico Zuccari]]. [[Carel van Mander]] relates that van Veen then worked at the courts of [[Rudolf II]] in [[Prague]] and [[William V of Bavaria]] in [[Munich]], before returning to the [[Low Countries]].<ref name=Mander>{{in lang|nl}} [http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/mand001schi01_01/mand001schi01_01_0268.htm Octavio van Veen] in [[Karel van Mander]]'s ''Schilderboeck'', 1604, courtesy of the [[Digital library for Dutch literature]]</ref> In Brussels, he was [[court painter]] to the governor of the [[Southern Netherlands]], [[Alexander Farnese, Duke of Parma]] until 1592, and then active in Antwerp.<br />
[[File:Otto van Veen - Amazons and Scythians.jpg|left|thumb|320px|''Amazons and Scythians'', 1597-99]]<br />
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After becoming a master in the [[Guild of St. Luke]] in 1593, van Veen took numerous commissions for church decorations, including altarpieces for the [[Cathedral of Our Lady, Antwerp|Antwerp cathedral]] and a chapel in the [[Antwerp City Hall|city hall]]. He also organized his studio and workshop, which included Rubens. Van Veen's connection to Brussels remained, however, and when [[Archduke Ernest of Austria]] became governor in 1594, he may have aided the archduke in acquiring important Netherlandish paintings by the likes of [[Hieronymus Bosch]] and [[Pieter Bruegel the Elder]].<ref>Bertini (1998): 119.</ref> The artist later served as dean in two prominent organizations in the city, the Guild of St. Luke in 1602, and the [[Guild of Romanists|Romanists]] in 1606.<br />
[[File:Otto van Veen - Dornenkrönung - 1868 - Bavarian State Painting Collections.jpg|thumb|320px|''The mocking of Christ'']]<br />
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In the seventeenth century, van Veen often worked for the Archdukes [[Albert VII, Archduke of Austria|Albert]] and [[Infanta Isabella Clara Eugenia of Spain|Isabella]], but never as their court painter.<ref name="Van de Velde"/> Later paintings include a series of twelve paintings depicting the battles of the Romans and the [[Batavians]],<ref>[http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/?/nl/items/RIJK01:SK-A-423 Brinio op het schild geheven] Painting by Otto van Veen</ref> based on engravings he had already published of the subject, for the [[Dutch Republic|Dutch]] [[States-General of the Netherlands|States General]].<ref>{{Cite web |url=http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/aria_assets/SK-A-424?lang=en&context_space=&context_id= |title=Rijksmuseum |access-date=18 May 2007 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120211141638/http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/aria_assets/SK-A-424?lang=en&context_space=&context_id= |archive-date=11 February 2012 |url-status=dead }}</ref> He had two brothers who were painters; [[Gijsbert van Veen]] (1558–1630) was a respected engraver and Pieter was an amateur.<ref name=Mander /> His daughter Gertruid was also a painter,<ref>[https://rkd.nl/en/explore/artists/79613 Gertruida van Veen(1602–1643)] in the [[RKD]]</ref> and he was the uncle of three [[pastel]]lists, Pieter's children, [[Apollonia van Veen|Apollonia]], Symon, and Jacobus.<ref>[http://www.pastellists.com/Articles/VEEN.pdf Profile of Apollonia van Veen] in the ''Dictionary of Pastellists Before 1800''.</ref> He died in [[Brussels]].<br />
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[[Arnold Houbraken]] considered Van Veen to be the most impressive artist and scholar of his day and put his portrait on the title print of his three volume book ''De groote schouburgh der Nederlantsche konstschilders en schilderessen''.<ref>{{in lang|nl}} [http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/houb005groo01_01/houb005groo01_01_0015.htm Octavio van Veen biography] in ''De groote schouburgh der Nederlantsche konstschilders en schilderessen'' (1718) by [[Arnold Houbraken]]</ref><br />
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==Emblem books==<br />
[[File:1.amorum emblemata, 1608.jpg|thumb|Veen, Otto van. ''Amorum Emblemata ... Emblemes of Love, with verses in Latin, English, and Italian''. Antwerp: [Typis Henrici Swingenii] Venalia apud Auctorem, 1608.]]<br />
[[File:2.amorum emlemata.jpg|right|thumb|Veen, Otto van. ''Amorum Emblemata ... Emblemes of Love, with verses in Latin, English, and Italian''. Antwerp: [Typis Henrici Swingenii] Venalia apud Auctorem, 1608.]]<br />
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Increasingly, van Veen was active in producing [[Emblem books]], including ''Quinti Horatii Flacci emblemata'' (1607), ''Amorum emblemata'' (1608), and ''Amoris divini emblemata'' (1615). In all these works, van Veen's skills as an artist and learned humanist are on display. The ''Amorum emblemata'', for example, pictures 124 [[putti]], or little cupids, enacting the mottoes and quotations from lyricists, philosophers, and ancient writers on the powers of Love. About van Veen's emblems Tina Montone has written, "In the course of the seventeenth century the Amorum emblemata was to become one of the most influential books of its time, functioning not only as a model for other Dutch and foreign emblem books, but also as a source of inspiration for many artists in other fields."<ref>Montone, p. 47.</ref> Some of these emblems are as relevant today as they would have to a seventeenth-century audience.<br />
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A few examples of these mottoes read: "A Wished Warre: The woundes that lovers give are willingly receaved..." He goes on to quote Cicero and Seneca on this theme and depicts two Cupids exchanging arrows. Another example familiar to us today as the story of [[The Tortoise and the Hare]] (originally a fable by [[Aesop]]), is titled "Perseverance winneth: The hare and the tortes layd a wager of their speed ..." shows us a cupid and tortoise outpacing the hare and exemplifying the idea that the love which is steady and constant will ultimately win the race.<ref>Quotations from Veen, 1608</ref><br />
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His ''Quinti Horatii Flacci Emblemata'' was a major step forward in the design and conceptualization of emblem books.<ref>The Invention of the Emblem Book and the Transmission of Knowledge, ca. 1510–1610, Karl A.E. Enenkel, 2019 - Chapter 7 "The Transmission of Knowledge via Pictorial Figurations: Vaenius’ Emblemata Horatiana (1607) as a Manual of Ethics"</ref> The full page illustrations were of very high quality and positioned on the recto of every page opening, with the letterpress opposite each illustration on the verso. The first edition had verses in Dutch and French below the latin quotes (drawn largely from Horace, but also other sources). Spanish and Italian were added in the second edition in 1612.<ref>Enenkel, p 366</ref><br />
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==Notes==<br />
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==References==<br />
* Catalogue de l'exposition "Le Beau Siècle. La vie artistique à Besançon de la Conquête à la Révolution", Cleditions.com, 2022, ISBN 978-2-35290-341-3.<br />
* Belkin, Kristin Lohse: ''Rubens''. [[Phaidon Press]], 1998. {{ISBN|0-7148-3412-2}}.<br />
* Bertini, Giuseppe: "Otto van Veen, Cosimo Masi and the Art Market in Antwerp at the End of the Sixteenth Century." ''Burlington Magazine'' vol. 140, no. 1139. (Feb. 1998), pp.&nbsp;119–120.<br />
* Montone, Tina, "'Dolci ire, dolci sdegni, e dolci paci': The Role of the Italian Collaborator in the Making of Otto Vaenius's Amorum Emblemata," in Alison Adams and Marleen van der Weij, ''Emblems of the Low Countries: A Book Historical Perspective''. Glasgow Emblem Studies, vol. 8. Glasgow: University of Glasgow, 2003. p.&nbsp;47. <br />
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20120211141638/http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/aria_assets/SK-A-424?lang=en&context_space=&context_id= Rijksmuseum Amsterdam, Otto van Veen's ''Batavians defeating the Roman'' (''sic'')]<br />
* Van de Velde, Carl: "Veen [Vaenius; Venius], Otto van" ''Grove Art Online''. [[Oxford University Press]], [accessed 18 May 2007].<br />
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20131120045005/http://www.rkd.nl/rkddb/(S(yiisexhhdy1uelbzc14ki55x))/detail.aspx Entry at the Netherlands Institute for Art History]<br />
* Veen, Otto van. Amorum Emblemata... Emblemes of Love, with verses in Latin, English, and Italian. Antwerp: [Typis Henrici Swingenii] Venalia apud Auctorem, 1608.<br />
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==External links==<br />
*{{Commons category-inline|Otto van Veen}}<br />
* [http://oloosson.com/vaenius/index.html Othonis Vaenii emblemata]<br />
* [https://www.lambiek.net/artists/v/veen_otto_van.htm Lambiek Comiclopedia article.]<br />
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20090118011538/http://emblems.let.uu.nl/index.html Emblem Project Utrecht] – 3 editions of emblem books by Otto van Veen<br />
*[https://archive.org/details/amorumemblemataf00veen Amorum Emblemata] on Internet Archive.<br />
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20110929041414/http://www.dspt.edu/197810316143459540/blank/browse.asp?a=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&c=55892 Vita D. Thomae Aquinatis] a manuscript by Otto van Veen (1610)<br />
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| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French [[Painting|painter]].<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters and collectors related to [[Otto van Veen]], [[Peter Paul Rubens]]' teacher,<ref>Catalogue de l'exposition "Le Beau Siècle. La vie artistique à Besançon de la Conquête à la Révolution", cleditions.com, 2022, {{ISBN|978-2-35290-341-3}}.</ref> Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
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The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career. His work is known in France<ref>{{Cite book|url=https://www.decitre.fr/livres/la-litterature-francaise-pour-les-nuls-9782412038994.html|title=''La littérature française pour les nuls''|date=|accessdate=|website=|publisher=|last=|first=}}</ref><ref>Pascal-Raphaël Ambrogi, ''Encyclopaedic Dictionary of Joan of Arc'', Paris, Desclée De Brouwer, 2017, ISBN 9782220086057, p. 239.</ref> but also in Armenia<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://entanik.am/fr/centre-%CA%BAendanik%CA%BA-ev%C3%A9nement-intitul%C3%A9-%CA%BAvues-photographiques-anim%C3%A9es%CA%BA-d%C3%A9di%C3%A9-%C3%A0-la-francophonie-et-aux|title=ʺEndanikʺ: Evénement intitulé ʺVues photographiques animéesʺ dédié à la Francophonie et aux frères Lumière, inventeurs de la cinématographie.|date=|accessdate=|website=|publisher=|last=|first=}}</ref> and Russia.<ref><abbr>(ru)</abbr>{{Cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=WSp1DwAAQBAJ|title=Вита Хан-Магомедова, Litres, 2018.|date=15 May 2022|accessdate=|website=|publisher=|last=|first=|isbn=9785041393786 }}</ref><br />
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== A style ==<br />
[[File:Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, Douard III, 1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel.tif|thumb|left|''Douard III'' (1996, Acrylic and pastel, 120 x 80).]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
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"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, {{ISBN|978-2-87629-297-0}}, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
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On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
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"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux; indeed both explore those paths which [[Gaston Bachelard|Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
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"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
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== Shows ==<br />
[[File:La baie des Anges, par Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60).JPG|thumb|left|''La baie des Anges'' (1994, Acrylic, 80 x 60).]]<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon [[Victor Chocquet]], Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Exposition dans le cadre du 16e salon d'art Richelieu, 2017<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/Indre-et-Loire/Communes/Richelieu/n/Contenus/Articles/2017/06/30/16-e-salon-artistique-ce-week-end-3152619/ |title=16 e salon artistique ce week-end - 30/06/2017, Richelieu (37) - la Nouvelle République |website=www.lanouvellerepublique.fr |access-date=12 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170816151009/http://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/Indre-et-Loire/Communes/Richelieu/n/Contenus/Articles/2017/06/30/16-e-salon-artistique-ce-week-end-3152619/ |archive-date=16 August 2017 |url-status=dead}}</ref><br />
*Exposition Art et foi, Chapelle des Annonciades, Pontarlier, 2019<br />
*Exposition Blick in die Zukunft, Fribourg-en-Brisgau, 2019<br />
*Exposition Regards d'artistes sur l'avenir, Besançon, October 2019<br />
*Exposition au Château de Moncley, 2020<br />
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=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
[[File:Michael enfant de Lumière.jpg|thumb|''Michael Enfant de Lumière'' (2018, Acrylic, 90 x 120).]]<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
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=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
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== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Lumière ou Projection privée.jpg|thumb|left|''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (2010, Acrylic and Pastel, 90 x 120).]]<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
*16ème Salon de l'Art Richelieu (2017)<br />
*Journée du patrimoine, Château de Vaire (2018)<br />
* Data Music, Besançon (2019)<br />
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== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
[[File:Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, Jehanne 1429 (1999, Acrylique et pastel, 60 x 40).JPG|thumb|''Jehanne 1429'' (1999, Acrylic and pastel, 60 x 40).]]<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
*Invité d'honneur du 16ème salon de l'Art Richelieu, 2017<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
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*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
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;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
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;France télévisions :<br />
[[File:Lautréamont, Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm).jpg|thumb|''Lautréamont'' (2012, Acrylic, 90 x 120).]]<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
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;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (April 2019 ; October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
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=== Other ===<br />
* ''Perséides'', Collection of paintings illustrated by the texts of Jacques-Rittaud Hutinet, Bègles, L'Ecouleur de la vie, 2019, ({{ISBN|9791069932395}}), (100 numbered copies).<ref>{{Cite book|url=https://data.bnf.fr/fr/temp-work/d8e56e25f91a099bdc12863858614f9e/|title=Bnf|year=2019 }}</ref><br />
* ''L'Essentiel'', Bourgogne Franche-Comté, Besançon, Sodiex Editions, été 2019, str. 42.<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 (50 numbered copies).<br />
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==References==<br />
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== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|tD26f_Z1O40|Interview d'artiste, RCF, 2014}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
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[[Category:20th-century French male artists]]<br />
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[[Category:21st-century French male artists]]<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
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| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, Douard III, 1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel.tif|thumb|left|''Douard III'' (1996, Acrylic et pastel, 120 x 80 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
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== Shows ==<br />
[[File:La baie des Anges, par Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60).JPG|thumb|left|''La baie des Anges'' (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60)]]<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
[[File:Citizen Trump 90 x 120 cm acrylique et pastel.jpg|thumb|right|''Citizen [[Donald Trump|Trump]]'' (2017, acrylique et pastel, 120 x 90 cm).]]<br />
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=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994, 60 x 40 cm, Pastel et acrylique)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
[[File:Lautréamont, Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm).jpg|thumb|''Lautréamont'' (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm)]]<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
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[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:French male painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:People from Bourges]]</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=759728932Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2017-01-12T21:24:32Z<p>Drapé: </p>
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| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud, en 2007.jpg<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2007.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
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| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, Douard III, 1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel.tif|thumb|left|''Douard III'' (1996, Acrylic et pastel, 120 x 80 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
[[File:La baie des Anges, par Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60).JPG|thumb|left|''La baie des Anges'' (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60)]]<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994, 60 x 40 cm, Pastel et acrylique)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
[[File:Lautréamont, Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm).jpg|thumb|''Lautréamont'' (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm)]]<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:French male painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:People from Bourges]]</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=745540611Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2016-10-21T18:49:19Z<p>Drapé: </p>
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<div>{{Orphan|date=January 2015}}<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
| bgcolour = #EEDD82<br />
| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud, en 2007.jpg<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2007.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, Douard III, 1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel.tif|thumb|left|''Douard III'' (1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
[[File:La baie des Anges, par Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60).JPG|thumb|left|''La baie des Anges'' (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60)]]<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994, 60 x 40 cm, Pastel et acrylique)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
[[File:Lautréamont, Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm).jpg|thumb|''Lautréamont'' (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm)]]<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
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[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:French male painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
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| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2007.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
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| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, Douard III, 1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel.tif|thumb|left|''Douard III'' (1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
[[File:La baie des Anges, par Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60).JPG|thumb|left|''La baie des Anges'' (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60)]]<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
[[File:Lautréamont, Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm).jpg|thumb|''Lautréamont'' (2012, Acrylique, 90 x 120 cm)]]<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:French male painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:People from Bourges]]</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=745539703Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2016-10-21T18:42:21Z<p>Drapé: /* Shows */</p>
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<div>{{Orphan|date=January 2015}}<br />
<br />
{{Infobox artist<br />
| bgcolour = #EEDD82<br />
| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud, en 2007.jpg<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2007.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, Douard III, 1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel.tif|thumb|left|''Douard III'' (1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
[[File:La baie des Anges, par Arnaud Courlet de Vregille (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60).JPG|thumb|left|''La baie des Anges'' (1994, Encre acrylique 80 x 60)]]<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
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[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:French male painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
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| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud, en 2007.jpg<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2007.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, Douard III, 1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel.tif|thumb|left|''Douard III'' (1996, 120 x 80 cm, Acrylique et pastel)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
<!-- Deleted image removed: [[File:Edouard III (1996) 120 x 90 cm Acrylique et pastel.tiff|thumb|left|Douar III (1996) 120 x 90 cm - Acrylique et pastel]] --><br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:French male painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:People from Bourges]]</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=745536492Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2016-10-21T18:17:49Z<p>Drapé: </p>
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<div>{{Orphan|date=January 2015}}<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
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| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud, en 2007.jpg<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2007.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
== Shows ==<br />
<!-- Deleted image removed: [[File:Edouard III (1996) 120 x 90 cm Acrylique et pastel.tiff|thumb|left|Douar III (1996) 120 x 90 cm - Acrylique et pastel]] --><br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:French male painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:People from Bourges]]</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=745472454Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2016-10-21T10:04:05Z<p>Drapé: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Orphan|date=January 2015}}<br />
<br />
{{Infobox artist<br />
| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = [[File:Arnaud, en 2007.jpg|thumb|Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, en 2007]]<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2007.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
== Shows ==<br />
<!-- Deleted image removed: [[File:Edouard III (1996) 120 x 90 cm Acrylique et pastel.tiff|thumb|left|Douar III (1996) 120 x 90 cm - Acrylique et pastel]] --><br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
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[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
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=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
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=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
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== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
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*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
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== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
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[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
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*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
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;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
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;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
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;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
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=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
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==References==<br />
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== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
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The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
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== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]'' (1975)]]<br />
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The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
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"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
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On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
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"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
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"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
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== Shows ==<br />
[[File:Edouard III (1996) 120 x 90 cm Acrylique et pastel.tiff|thumb|left|Edouard III (1996) 120 x 90 cm - Acrylique et pastel]]<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
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[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
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=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
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=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
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== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
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*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
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== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
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[[Category:Living people]]<br />
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[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]'' (1975)]]<br />
<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
== Shows ==<br />
[[File:Edouard III (1996) 120 x 90 cm Acrylique et pastel.tiff]]<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (September 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (September 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (October 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
* Radio Shalom (February 2016 ; October 2014)<br />
* RCF Radio (October 2014 ; September 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:People from Bourges]]</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=696509738Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2015-12-23T17:41:11Z<p>Drapé: /* Other */</p>
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<div>{{Orphan|date=January 2015}}<br />
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| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]'' (1975)]]<br />
<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
== Shows ==<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
*RCF Radio (octobre 2014, septembre 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
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| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
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<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]'' (1975)]]<br />
<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
== Shows ==<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
*RCF Radio (octobre 2014, septembre 2012)<br />
<br />
=== Other ===<br />
* ''Couleurs 2016'', with six reproductions, Pirey, éd. Néo-Print 25 Pirey, 2015 [whose 50 numbered copies].<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]'' (1975)]]<br />
<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
== Shows ==<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, école nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
<br />
*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
;Radio broadcast :<br />
*RCF Radio (octobre 2014, septembre 2012)<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
{{Persondata<br />
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| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
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[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]'' (1975)]]<br />
<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
{{-}}<br />
== Shows ==<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
<br />
*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
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[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
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*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
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;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
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;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
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;Radio broadcast :<br />
*RCF Radio (octobre 2014, septembre 2012)<br />
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==References==<br />
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== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
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==Lord of the Isles==<br />
Hi Mark,<br />
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Thanks for letting me know about the changes to the Lord of the Isles pages. To be honest I didn't give the changes the time they needed. I'm some way through my PhD at the moment and was just startled that the old Kingship idea was still there when scholarship is not in favour. If I get the time I'll make some sourced changes with care. <br />
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Jim<br />
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PS I'm not even sure how to join the talk page at the correct spot! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.22.50.94|82.22.50.94]] ([[User talk:82.22.50.94|talk]]) 22:06, 18 August 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:No worries, the problematic edit occurred long enough ago that no one would hold it against you now. In fact, the revert may have been an error on my part. Also, there is a "New section" tab at the top of talk pages, you can click that and it will set up a space for you to leave a message. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:00, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
== Welcome back ==<br />
Welcome back! [[User:EuroCarGT|<span style="color:cyan">'''///Euro'''</span><span style="color:grey">'''Car'''</span>]][[User talk:EuroCarGT|<span style="color:orange">'''GT'''</span>]] 05:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. Did I miss anything interesting? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:42, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::... no.<br />
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::The llama needs its hair combing, though. --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 07:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:: {{diff|User talk:Jimbo Wales|621375551|621375415|yes}} <!-- the archiving of this thread failed, and it's now nowhere. ??? [[User talk:Jimbo Wales#DYK about early learning|yes]] -->, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 08:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::*Well, you missed nothing ''unusual''. I'm sure most of it's interesting to someone.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 08:28, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I could think of few things, actually. VisualEditor has improved a lot and is now a very useful editing tool. Also, User:ТимофейЛееСуда has become an admin and has a new username: {{noping|TLSuda}}. Judging by what you did before the hiatus, you two are going to see a lot of each other... if you are planning on doing exactly what you did before. Best regards, [[User:Codename Lisa|Codename Lisa]] ([[User talk:Codename Lisa|talk]]) 20:38, 17 August 2014 (UTC) <br />
* Nice to see you back again! --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 16:18, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:*Ditto - welcome back! [[User:Hchc2009|Hchc2009]] ([[User talk:Hchc2009|talk]]) 17:40, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::*Aye, good to have you back! [[User:AddWittyNameHere|AddWittyNameHere]] ([[User talk:AddWittyNameHere|talk]]) 21:59, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::*Count me in. Welcome back Mark! All the best. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 22:06, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, it's great to talk to all of you again. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::*Glad to see you back, too. (BTW, I finished my master's program)&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 00:31, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::Wow, that's awesome. Glad to hear it! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::*Thanks. Hope to see you at FAC soon ;) Too many articles that aren't nearly quirky enough.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]])<br />
*Yay Mark! Bout time you attended to that llama! [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|<font color="purple">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 03:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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*Welcome back as well. Best wishes, [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 06:10, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
*Alleluia, you're back! You were very much missed. We admins had to work in teams of four to try to keep up with the backlog you were handling single-handedly. --[[User:Ponyo|<b><font color="Navy">''Jezebel's''</font></b><font color="Navy">Ponyo</font>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Ponyo|<font color="Navy">''bons mots''</font>]]</sup> 20:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I was working pretty hard before I left, probably a bit too hard in retrospect. Glad to see my old friends are still plugging away at SPI though! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
*Welcome back, Mark. Missed you while you were gone. <joke> WMF unilaterally issued all of us admins new mops. They work only with VisualEditor and MediaViewer, and there's no opt-out! </joke> '''[[User:Go Phightins!|<font color="blue">Go</font>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<font color="#E90004">''Phightins''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Go Phightins!|<font color="#008504">!</font>]]''' 20:32, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Hey, congrats on the promotion! I wish I could have voted, but it seems like the RFA narrowly succeeded with me :) [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks. I was honestly flattered by the community's support; at the same time, though, adminship isn't what it's made out to be ... but I love buttons, and now have more to push, so it's not all bad :-) '''[[User:Go Phightins!|<font color="blue">Go</font>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<font color="#E90004">''Phightins''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Go Phightins!|<font color="#008504">!</font>]]''' 20:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
*Welcome back Mark! Hope all is well in your off-Wiki life. You have been missed! - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 02:20, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::We're glad you came back to editing! We all missed you so much. :) [[User:IPadPerson|IPadPerson]] ([[User talk:IPadPerson|talk]]) 12:31, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Pleased to see that you're back, Mark Arsten. :) [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 18:25, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Good to see all of you are still here too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 22:10, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Yes, welcome back. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:12, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::And thank you for your encouragement, as well. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:24, 21 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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* Hey, I didn't know you were back until just now. Welcome back, and like numerous others have said, your hard work has been missed. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 01:45, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. Glad to see that you're still at it! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:46, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
*It's good to see you around again.--'''[[User:Jetstreamer|Jetstreamer]]'''&nbsp;''{{sup|[[User talk:Jetstreamer#top|Talk]]}}'' 22:32, 28 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Hi Mark,<br />
I was wondering why you deleted the Molly McQueen (singer) page? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:John Giddings|John Giddings]] ([[User talk:John Giddings|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/John Giddings|contribs]]) 16:24, 16 October 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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==James Grant== <br />
Hi Mark, wondering if you might be able to help out? You deleted the page for "James Grant (journalist)" and wondered what would need to be done/edits made to get the page reinstated in some form? Thanks! Paul[[User:Bluebolt76|Bluebolt76]] ([[User talk:Bluebolt76|talk]]) 19:50, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Grant_%28journalist%29<br />
http://www.wikigrain.org/?req=James+Grant+%28journalist%29&sort=date<br />
:Hi Paul, I've moved the deleted version of the page to [[Draft:James Grant (journalist)]] so you can work on it. The long and short of it is that it needs more citations to reliable sources in the body. See [[WP:CITE]] and [[WP:RS]] for explanations of what I mean by this. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Great, thank you Mark, and thanks for getting back so quickly. I'll work on updating the draft and adding suitable citations. Cheers, Paul [[User:Bluebolt76|Bluebolt76]] ([[User talk:Bluebolt76|talk]]) 15:56, 21 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Mark, just to update you, I've been working on the [[Draft:James Grant (journalist)]] page getting appropriate citations. Nearly done, will alert you when finished for your feedback/approval on the page. Thanks! [[User:Bluebolt76|Bluebolt76]] ([[User talk:Bluebolt76|talk]]) 19:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Hi Mark, so [[Draft:James Grant (journalist)]] is fully updated with appropriate citations! Have a look and let me know if ready to be reinstated? If so, maybe title should be changed to James Grant (publicist) since that is his main role now? Thanks! [[User:Bluebolt76|Bluebolt76]] ([[User talk:Bluebolt76|talk]]) 18:40, 18 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
::The article could still be improved a bit, it looks like there are a lot of primary sources instead of secondary sources (i.e. articles by Grant, rather than articles about Grant). If you want, you can move it to [[James Grant (publicist)]] now, but there's a chance that someone will try to delete it again. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:18, 19 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay, great Mark. I have moved it to [[James Grant (publicist)]] for now, and see how that goes. Thank you so much for your help with this, much appreciated. [[User:Bluebolt76|Bluebolt76]] ([[User talk:Bluebolt76|talk]]) 16:16, 24 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== IP address used for nothing but voting delete in AFDs with another user ==<br />
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You closed the sockpuppet investigation previously. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mdtemp/Archive] So I'd like to point out that this IP address has 99% of their edits in deletion discussions, and a comparison shows this other user is there [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?user1=Mdtemp&user2=204.126.132.231&user3=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&allusers=on] as well, both saying delete. Sometimes right after one another, other times spaced out a bit. Just look at the edit history of the IP address. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/204.126.132.231&offset=&limit=500&target=204.126.132.231] And the other guy seems to have no edits but in AFDs either. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Mdtemp&offset=&limit=500&target=Mdtemp] [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 22:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, that does seem suspicious. Since there's a lot more evidence than there was 8 months ago you might want to re-open the SPI. Not sure I'll be able to look at it in detail very quickly. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 22:09, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I think an administrator is needed to reopen it, and you are the one that closed it. I'm not really familiar on how these things work. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 22:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::No, you can re-open it since there is new evidence that wasn't there was when I closed it before. On [[WP:SPI]] there's a box that says "How to open an investigation:" and you click the "[show]" tab next to it and there's a box you can just add the name of the case and it will re-open it. I haven't handled many SPI cases lately so I'm not inclined to take action without getting input from another clerk. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::{{tps}} I'm just a bit skeptical on this one, [[User:Dream Focus]]. The IP only seems to show up on AfDs started by the other user that are related to boxing and other martial artists, and then only after they've been listed with a {{tq|This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Martial arts|list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions]].}}, where they show up on that page's list where anyone interested in the topic will have watchlisted it. I don't see any cases over the past couple of months where the IP showed up before the AfD was listed, and also doesn't seem to show up on proposed AfDs in other categories, such as Hong Kong movies. The arguments are frequently similar, but sometimes aren't. Based on the current state of the list page, the IP would seem to haunt the place, and has commented on most of the AfDs, including many not nominated by the user. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 02:20, 21 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::PS: Welcome back, Mark! Great to see you here. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 02:20, 21 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::They disagreed with one another in one AFD, so probably different people. Or it could be a clever ruse to throw us off since they agree on delete every other time and knew someone was talking about them. I have no idea. I just read how one was involved in something before at [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Papaursa/Archive]], and if you read what Dennis Brown said at the end of that page, sounds suspicious. But no way to tell. I do it find it odd that someone can edit Wikipedia only in AFD and nothing else, especially without ever having to even register a name, just using an IP address. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 03:54, 21 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Bertie Gilbert Re-Creaton ==<br />
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Hi Mark<br />
On 5 March 2013 you deleted the page [[Bertie Gilbert]] I have been working hard to put together a new article for Bertie Gilbert and when I tried to create I saw the page is protected from creation. I really do think this guy is noteable now with the recent short films he has made. Have a look at my article [[User:H.Brian Griffin/sandbox2|here]] and see the following links as well.<br />
[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZp5j0LWQCT5cO_vhkrW6kA| Youtube channel]<br />
[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3633758/|imdb page]<br />
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Thank you very much for taking the time to read this I hope you give this page a chance.<br />
(<span style="font-family:'Impact',monospace"><span style="display:none">User:</span>[[User:H.Brian Griffin|H.Brian Griffin]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:H.Brian Griffin|talk]]</sup><sup> | </sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/H.Brian Griffin|contribs]]</sup> 22:12, 19 August 2014 (UTC))<br />
:At a glance it looks like it needs citations to reliable sources before it can be restored. See [[WP:CITE]] and [[WP:RS]] for detailed explanations of what I mean by this. Are there newspapers or magazines that have written about him? Coverage on websites can sometimes be used, but only certain websites are deemed reliable on Wikipedia. Also see [[WP:NACTOR]] for a good rule of thumb. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:50, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I have added some references now. [[User:H.Brian Griffin/sandbox2|Is this ok?]] and if it is, will you create the article or will you unprotected the article from creation so I can create it. Thanks for the help.(<span style="font-family:'Impact',monospace"><span style="display:none">User:</span>[[User:H.Brian Griffin|H.Brian Griffin]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:H.Brian Griffin|talk]]</sup><sup> | </sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/H.Brian Griffin|contribs]]</sup> 09:06, 20 August 2014 (UTC))<br />
:::I made [[Bertie Gilbert (filmmaker)|this]] anyway if you could merge the article [[Bertie Gilbert]] with the new one I created it would make more sense. Since there are no other articles on wikipedia called Bertie Gilbert. Thanks agian (<span style="font-family:'Impact',monospace"><span style="display:none">User:</span>[[User:H.Brian Griffin|H.Brian Griffin]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:H.Brian Griffin|talk]]</sup><sup> | </sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/H.Brian Griffin|contribs]]</sup> 12:38, 20 August 2014 (UTC))<br />
::::Unfortunately, imdb is not a reliable source, so that doesn't count for notability purposes. I'm not sure about the other source either, but it's better than imdb at least. A single source is usually not enough to demonstrate notability. At this point it doesn't seem to me like he meets the notability guidelines so I've moved it back to [[User:H.Brian Griffin/Bertie Gilbert]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:37, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::I added another Reference is [[User:H.Brian Griffin/Bertie Gilbert|this]] ok? (<span style="font-family:'Impact',monospace"><span style="display:none">User:</span>[[User:H.Brian Griffin|H.Brian Griffin]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:H.Brian Griffin|talk]]</sup><sup> | </sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/H.Brian Griffin|contribs]]</sup> 20:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC))<br />
::::::Blogspot blogs are generally not accepted as good sources either. It might be too soon for an article on Gilbert, sorry. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:24, 21 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== You're back!!! ==<br />
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Looks like I'm a little late to the party... Welcome back Mark!!! I can't tell you how elated I became when I saw your name/datestamp in the block log [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Realns here]. I am now among admin ranks, and I had for so long looked forward to working with you. Hope you decide to stay for good... your shoes are impossible to fill but for the past five months I sure have tried hard :) A beer awaits you below &mdash; '''[[User:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:MusikAnimal|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</sup>''' 19:50, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks! It feels good to be back in action. Congrats on the RFA, I hope you like being an admin... it can be tiresome at times! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:21, 21 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== A beer for you! ==<br />
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== While you were away... ==<br />
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... [http://www.standard.co.uk/incoming/article9682695.ece/alternates/w1024/zoo5.jpg the llama got larger!] (Picture by Jeremy Selwyn). --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 20:16, 21 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Lol, what a picture. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== User talk:Ryulong ==<br />
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[[User talk:Ryulong]]<br />
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Hi, you semi'd that page in 2013, {{xt|<nowiki>17:18, 30 December 2013 Mark Arsten (talk | contribs) changed protection level of User talk:Ryulong [edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite)[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Trolling, let me know when you want this unprotected) (hist)</nowiki>}}<br />
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Can you ask him/her if it can be removed? Or at least if he can make a page for IPs to talk to him/her?<br />
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Thx, [[Special:Contributions/88.104.23.102|88.104.23.102]] ([[User talk:88.104.23.102|talk]]) 01:30, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:At the time I protected his page, he was getting constantly targeted by sockpuppets, so fairly extreme measures were justified. I haven't been around much lately, so I'm not sure if protection still makes sense or not. {{ping|Ryulong}}, any thoughts on the matter? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:35, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Who is this guy and why does he care?—[[User:Ryulong|<font color="blue">Ryūlóng</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryulong|<font color="Gold">琉竜</font>]]) 06:41, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Not sure, but looking at his editing history he seems to have a lot of experience with Wikipedia. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 07:12, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::I was just passing, really. When visiting AIV on unrelated business, I noticed that Ryulong had been reported there (yet again) and wanted to let him/her know, but was unable to post on the talk; that's all. Not a big deal, and it seems s/he noticed soon after anyway. But in general, it's rather inconvenient if IPs are unable to contact editors at all. Maybe you could have a non-protected page where IPs could leave messages, if the vandalism isn't a huge problem.[[Special:Contributions/88.104.23.102|88.104.23.102]] ([[User talk:88.104.23.102|talk]]) 17:31, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::You are correct, having a non-protected page for IPs to leave messages is generally considered the best practice. I think it's ultimately up to Ryulong though. At least, I'm not inclined to force him, not sure how other admins feel about such things these days. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== IP PA ==<br />
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As you have helped me in the past with some users/IP [[WP:PA]]s, just wanted you to see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Batman_v_Superman:_Dawn_of_Justice&diff=next&oldid=622498867 this]. Thanks. (Possibly connected to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.196.41.58 this IP].) - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 20:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I semi-protected the page since it was getting hit pretty heavily. Possibly just a throwaway IP used by any number of vandals, but let me know if there's more of the same on other pages. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:00, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== HISTMERGE ==<br />
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Hello Mark Arsten, {{u|Favre1fan93}} sent me to you for the HISTMERGE situations, first take a look at discussion [[User talk:Favre1fan93#Redirect to Draft|HERE]]. I need this draft [[Draft:The Jungle Book (2015 film)]] history to be merged into [[The Jungle Book (2015 film)]], and then [[Alice in Wonderland 2]] history into [[Alice in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass]]. In "The Jungle Book (2015 film)", I mentioned about the draft article that it was in works and will be moved to mainspace. And "Alice in Wonderland 2" was created by my more than a year ago and have some editing history which should be merged into "Alice in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass", which was created three weeks ago. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 06:30, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, I'm not sure that histmerges are needed here. We usually do them when the editing history (which serves as attribution) is on a different page than the content. If you are the only person who worked on the original articles, if you replace the new articles with what you had written there will still be adequate attribution. Does that make sense or am I missing something here? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:46, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::But I had mentioned in the [[The Jungle Book (2015 film)]] that a draft is being developed and also the article had more than 10 edits history which was just removed to make a way for another article. The right way was to merge the new article when already existed article had some edits history. And {{u|Favre1fan93}} also looked into the situation and he is agreed on HISTMERGE of the [[Draft:The Jungle Book (2015 film)]], as it was first created and still waiting for the confirmed sources of filming begins. The new article doesn't even provide the confirmed source of filming, probably it should be deleted by discussion. {{u|TriiipleThreat}} should comment here. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 02:26, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Hey Mark. In my view, Captn's draft is the better article at the time, and per [[WP:NFF]], the main space one should not exist yet. So I don't know how that should be handled. I thought a HISTMERGE, but maybe I'm wrong. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 02:33, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh, ok, I think I was confused. So for the Jungle Book you guys want to merge the mainspace article into draftspace article? It might just be better to get the mainspace article deleted and then move your draft to mainspace when the time comes that an article is justified. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:42, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think it should be deleted because it does have some unsourced material (the infobox). Or redirect to [[The Jungle Book#Adaptations]]. And an edit notice should be put on [[The Jungle Book (2015 film)]] notifying users about the draft Capt started. A sample edit notice that can be used can be copied from {{tl|Editnotices/Page/Guardians of the Galaxy 2}}, which the info changed accordingly. I think that would work. Thanks Mark. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 02:53, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::Ok, well, I merged the histories so they're all in one place. At this point you could just redirect it and leave the histories there for use when it's restored in due time. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:55, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::I've gone and done so for now, you can just pick a version from the history to revert to when you need it. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:57, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::Also, I'm not sure anything needs to be done for Alice in Wonderland, but you could ask Anthony Appleyard, since he was working on it and he's the resident expert with histmerges and so on. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:07, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thank you guys, now I need your help for HISTMERGE of Alice in Wonderland. I had created the article, so the right way was to move the first one to the new title. It's again up to you guys. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 06:41, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Hmm, it looks like this one might be a case of [[WP:Parallel histories|parallel histories]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:05, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I don't think so, it'll also go with a normal merge like you did for ''The Jungle Book''. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 02:27, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
What do you say then? --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 07:25, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Not sure, maybe ask Anthony Appleyard and see what he thinks. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:47, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
* A complete history-merge of [[Alice in Wonderland 2]] and [[Alice in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass]] is impossible due to [[WP:Parallel histories]]. There may have been various partial copy-and-pastes between these 2 pages, but it looks like that there was not a single complete clean cut-and-paste event between them which could be history-merged. Best leave them alone and put a history note in their talk pages. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 22:37, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, thanks for looking into this for me. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:15, 28 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Candice Pinto ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I set out to create an article on "Candice Pinto" and found that you deleted the page due to BLP concerns in January 2014. Could you please move the text to a draft page so i can work on addressing the issues? Thankyou. [[User:Trinidade|Trinidade]] ([[User talk:Trinidade|talk]]) 15:24, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I might be able to help. The issue was that there were no sources cited in the article. Have you found any good sources about her? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:38, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:: Yes, as of now i have about 6 online news articles about her modelling career. [http://getahead.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/sep/18/slide-show-1-lakme-fashion-week-model-speak-candice-pinto-i-dont-follow-fashion-trends.htm this], [http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/fe/daily/20000408/fpe02015.html this], [http://www.hindustantimes.com/news-feed/archives/candid-candice-seeks-out-her-creative-self/article1-8653.aspx this] and [http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/true-life/the-show-goes-on this] for now. there'll be more if i play around with google a bit. [[User:Trinidade|Trinidade]] ([[User talk:Trinidade|talk]]) 20:49, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, sounds good, I've moved it to [[Draft:Candice Pinto]] for you. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:54, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks a lot. Cheers [[User:Trinidade|Trinidade]] ([[User talk:Trinidade|talk]]) 21:05, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hi Mark, I've got a basic article together now, fit to move into article-space. What do you think? [[User:Trinidade|Trinidade]] ([[User talk:Trinidade|talk]]) 16:10, 25 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::Ok, it looks decent to me, so I've moved it back to where it originally was. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks [[User:Trinidade|Trinidade]] ([[User talk:Trinidade|talk]]) 04:31, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Tags... ==<br />
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Thanks for removing the reduce ones - sometimes the rescalled script fails to remove the template - as I was fixing those odd few - SWMBO called me to sort out the cats having a Mexican stand-off in the hall... :-( [[User:Ronhjones|<b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron<span style="color:red">h</span>jones&nbsp;</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ronhjones|&nbsp;(Talk)]]</sup> 21:01, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, I didn't realize you were working on them at the time actually. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== User:kblfan ==<br />
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Can you revoke his ability to edit his own talk page? Check out the vitriol he's been spewing (and re-inserting when others take it out): [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kblfan&diff=622818277&oldid=622818068][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kblfan&diff=622819084&oldid=622818566]. [[User:Jrcla2|Jrcla2]] ([[User talk:Jrcla2|talk]]) 01:00, 26 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, didn't see this last night. Looks like he's calmed down now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:46, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== A cupcake for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I just noticed you've returned from your WikiBreak. Welcome back! --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User_talk:K6ka#|talk]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 01:47, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, glad to see you too. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:50, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Quick Question ==<br />
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What are some easy user rights groups to get? thanks <mark style="background:black">[[User:Bobherry|<font color="silver">Bob</font><font color="gold">herry</font>]] [[User talk:Bobherry|<font color="silver">talk</font>]]</mark> 14:55, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
: As you can see here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=618496145 I have rollback. {{rfplinks|1=Bobherry}}<br />
::It all depends on what kind of editing you do and what areas you'd like to edit more, but maybe Reviewer would be helpful? I think people who use Rollback correctly are often allowed to be reviewers. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:51, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::One can become a Junior Wrangler at the [[WP:Teahouse]] just by declaring that's what you are. I do so regularly...<br />
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:::(You are ineligible if you have ever been [[Senior Wrangler]], though.) --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 21:19, 27 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Up to writing? ==<br />
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[[Adam–God doctrine|This]] seems to be right up your old alley. Fairly good shape, too, surprisingly. My reaction was... [http://commonsenseatheism.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/head-asplode.png head asplode].&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 04:38, 28 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Huh, that is interesting, can't say I've heard much about it either. I'm always wary of editing LDS topics since there was so much conflict before, but I guess I've done some risky stuff before! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 14:58, 29 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:*I think the early life of the founder was just promoted a short while ago, actually. It may have calmed down.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 15:01, 29 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Justin Scoggins ==<br />
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I created a page for [[Justin Scoggins]] that you twice deleted recently because of what appears to be copyright issues. I dont believe the created page has copyright issues. Note that about nine months ago the page was also created and deleted because the fighter failed [[WP:NMMA]]. However, he has continued to fight and now meets WP:NMMA. Since you previously deleted I wanted you to be aware. [[User:RonSigPi|RonSigPi]] ([[User talk:RonSigPi|talk]]) 22:36, 29 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, thanks for the note. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Thought you might want to take a look at this dude. ==<br />
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Been watching [[Sindikato movies|these]] [[Sindikatu|gang-related]] [[Francisco Group|pages]] [[Rex “Wacky” Salud Group|lately]], and from what I gathered and remember, they reek of being a [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Malusia22|handywork]] of Malusia22. Mind if we take a look at these so we can swiftly deal with such elaborately-crafted mumbo-jumbo? [[User:Blakegripling ph|Blake Gripling]] ([[User talk:Blakegripling ph|talk]]) 01:23, 30 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I'll take a look at them. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:36, 1 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! Had a bit of trouble dealing with this as Mal, through his sockpuppet accounts, kept on writing up elaborate claims about a supposed [[National Crime Syndicate]]-esque outfit in the Philippines, when it doesn't actually exist according to my dad. The problem is while the sources Malusia use are a dead giveaway, I still need some input on someone who knows the ins and outs about the Philippine underworld. That, and if anyone's willing to help, I'll set up a long-term abuse page to aid others in identifying this kid. [[User:Blakegripling ph|Blake Gripling]] ([[User talk:Blakegripling ph|talk]]) 11:30, 3 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, I finally got around to closing it, sorry for the wait. Let me know if he tries this again. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:43, 3 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks dude. Guess we really should post a notice on this guy and his modus operandi of putting up elaborate yet blatant hoaxes. [[User:Blakegripling ph|Blake Gripling]] ([[User talk:Blakegripling ph|talk]]) 00:34, 4 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== AfD closure ==<br />
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If you would be so kind as to look at this [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/0-8-4|AfD discussion]] and perform a closure. The article in question ([[0-8-4]]) has received some more information over the last day or so, conforming it to the notability guidelines. Thanks. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I've closed it. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:45, 2 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== FC Rohožník ==<br />
Hi Mark Arsten, can you undelete please article about Slovak football club [[FC Rohožník]]. FC Rohožník compets in 2014/2015 3. liga (divison - Bratislava - 3 tier in Slovak football system). [http://www.futbalnet.sk/sutaze/-/sutaz/727] The club currently also plays in the [[Slovak Cup|Slovnaft Cup]]. FC Rohožník proceeded to 3rd round of the competition. [http://www.futbalnet.sk/sutaze/-/sutaz/662/zapas/139321]. On 3 September 2014, he will face with [[MFK Dubnica]]. Thanks in advance. [[User:IQual|IQual]] ([[User talk:IQual|talk]]) 12:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:You might want to ask at the football wikiproject for an admin to look into it. I'm not very familiar with the notability guidelines for football teams. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|IQual}} approached me with this. Obviously as a non-administrator I can't actually undelete this article, but I can confirm that they're right about the notability. [[WP:FOOTYN]] is the most widely respected guideline when it comes to non-biographical football topics, and as IQual has shown above, FC Rohoznik have competed in the Slovak Cup. If you prefer this go through an admin more familiar with football, I'm happy to oblige, but since you're already involved I figured I'd ask you first. Thanks. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 22:00, 3 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, I trust your judgment. I've restored the page, but it still needs to be updated and linked to and so on. I can undelete their logo too, if it was deleted as well. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:38, 3 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== plz revert a deletion due to horrible quality & disable this stupid bot ==<br />
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chris_Redfield.png and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Michelle_Chang_(Tekken).png too kthx. --[[User:SNAAAAKE!!|SNAAAAKE!!]] ([[User talk:SNAAAAKE!!|talk]]) 16:58, 2 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kratos_God_of_War_III.png --[[User:SNAAAAKE!!|SNAAAAKE!!]] ([[User talk:SNAAAAKE!!|talk]]) 16:59, 2 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I'd suggest bringing it up with the bot operator. I know there are guidelines for the sizes of non-free images, but I can't recall the exact numbers off the top of my head. Let me know what he says. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:43, 2 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
Hi Mr.Mark. This is Sindhu Biju from Dubai. I came to know my page was deleted. I would like to know what are the parameters to be followed to get it activated. I am one of the popular RJs of Dubai and a guinness book of record holder. This year I was honoured by Kerala State Government for my works.<br />
Waiting to hear from you<br />
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:Hi, you can see some of the guidelines at [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)]]. Merely being popular or listed in the Guinness Book isn't necessarily enough, but it may help. Let me know what you think when you've read the guideline. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:30, 11 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Disruptive IP ==<br />
Hi Mark. I'm dealing with a disruptive IP making edits across [[Assassin's Creed]] pages. They consistently change the lead of multiple articles, going against established consensus. They have been warned multiple times and have failed to start a discussion or respond to the warnings. IP is [[User talk:80.192.155.191|here]]. Thanks. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 21:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, looks like a block is probably warranted if he keeps it up. I'll keep an eye out in case he starts making the same edits. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:59, 11 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Draft move ==<br />
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Hello Arsten! I've already requested the draft move at {{u|Bgwhite}}'s talk page, but I think he has forgotten due to some remembering problems :). Will you please do these two drafts move to mainspace?<br />
* [[Draft:The Finest Hours (2015 film)]] to ''[[The Finest Hours (2015 film)]]''<br />
* [[Draft:The Stanford Prison Experiment (film)]] to ''[[The Stanford Prison Experiment (film)]]''<br />
Awaiting... Thanks and ping me when it's done. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 15:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:{{ping|Captain Assassin!}} Ok, I moved them. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:04, 11 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks Arsten. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 16:14, 11 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Ian Paisley]] ==<br />
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Do you have time to check this article? The subject recently died, so is PC still needed? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 07:22, 13 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Well, BLP does apply to the recently deceased as well. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:01, 19 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==SPI==<br />
As you previously acted on a [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kauffner]] SPI, are you able to take a look at this latest one? Is actively editing in several short term discussions RMs/AfDs etc. and removing notifications of the SPI. Thanks. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 10:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry for not getting to that, looks like someone beat me to it. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:48, 19 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Moves without leaving redirects ==<br />
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Hello Arsten! I've a proposal here, will you please move [[Template:Did you know nominations/1960 U-2 incident]] to [[Template:Did you know nominations/St. James Place]] without leaving redirect. And please delete [[Template:Did you know nominations/Untitled Cold War thriller]], which I moved but the redirect was left. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 07:34, 19 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I recommend fixing the backlinks in the templates first. You'll break something if you forget.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 09:52, 19 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, let me know when the backlinks are fixed and I'll move it. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I think {{u|Mandarax}} did some work on backlinks and Mandarax can confirmed if the backlinks are fixed or not. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 01:46, 20 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::What I had done was patch it so that it's correct with the current nomination page name. If it were to be moved again, it would have to be patched again, and if it's moved without a redirect, the entry on the main nominations page would also have to be fixed to point to the new name. I think it's better to just leave it with its current name. As I demonstrated when I created [[Template:Did you know nominations/Throatwobbler Mangrove]] for April Fools' Day, the name of the nomination subpage doesn't matter. [[User:Mandarax|<span style="color:green">M<small>AN</small>d<small>ARAX</small></span>]]&nbsp;<span style="color:blue">•</span>&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandarax|<span style="color:#999900"><small>XAЯA</small>b<small>ИA</small>M</span>]] 06:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes, I've seen these matters. Subpage nomination will work, thanks guys. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 09:29, 20 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ok, let me know if anything else comes up. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:23, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Userspace move help ==<br />
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Hi Mark. May I please get some help moving my draft of an article in the userspace, moved into the mainspace? I would like [[User:Favre1fan93/sandbox/6]] moved to [[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (season 2)]]. However, the first two edits in my sandbox are from a previous draft, so if it is possible for those to not be moved to the article space that would be great. Once you have completed the move, if you could delete my userspace so I can start afresh again, that would be wonderful. Finally (on a separate topic), do you happen to know a user who understands bot functions well? I'd like to reach out to them if you know of anyone. Thanks as always. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 20:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I think I got all the revisions moved and deleted correctly, let me know if I messed something up. As far as active users who are good with bots, [[User:28bytes]] comes to mind. I'm not sure if he's operating a bot currently but I think he knows a lot about how bots work and policy etc. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:22, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Looks perfect! Thanks!! I have also reached out to 28bytes with my question. Hopefully they can help me. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 03:12, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== 089baby again ==<br />
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As is so often the case when I post here, I've discovered a new sockpuppet of {{user|089baby}}. Could you look into {{user|Khmerhearts}}? They've recreated a couple of 089baby's old articles. Thanks in advance. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 17:37, 21 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, if it's only one or two articles maybe we should have a checkuser look at it. Unless I'm overlooking some clear evidence, which I may be. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 04:32, 23 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Mistaken page deletion ==<br />
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Hi Mark<br />
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My name is Julian Simpson. It appears that you were the admin responsible for authorising the deletion of a page about me on here. The page was legitimate but I believe it was put up for deletion by one of a group of people on Twitter who were harassing a friend of mine and took umbrage at me defending him. At the time, they threatened to "destroy my online presence", which seemed a little far-fetched so I ignored it. However, a few people have remarked recently that both my website (which I stopped maintaining some time ago) and the wiki page about me had disappeared. It seems a silly thing to be concerned about, I suppose, but I'm a writer and director and I've worked hard over the last fifteen or so years and that wiki page linked to the work I had done and was a useful way for people to look me up online. I don't know if it still exists somewhere but is there a way of reinstating it?<br />
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Thanks for your help.<br />
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[[User:Juliansimpson1|Juliansimpson1]] ([[User talk:Juliansimpson1|talk]]) 19:43, 24 September 2014 (UTC)Julian Simpson<br />
:It is technically possible to restore the page, yes. Before we do that we'd have to see evidence that you're "notable" though. We have a specific (and sometimes confusing) definition of "notable" on Wikipedia though, you can see the standard here: [[WP:CREATIVE]]. Let me know what you think. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:19, 24 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Telman Aliyev==<br />
Hello! I'm from Azermayjan. Could u help me? I whant to know about deleted page Telman Aliyev. Whats problem with this page? I wark in Institute of Cybernetic of Azerbayjan Academy Of Scinsec and we must enter all of our professor in wikipedia. We have the same pages in az.wiki8pedia and ru.wikipedia. Plese help me with this problem.<br />
Thanks in advance <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Alex0402|Alex0402]] ([[User talk:Alex0402|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alex0402|contribs]]) 08:24, 29 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hello, I might be able to help you with this. Being a professor, while certainly an accomplishment, isn't enough to justify having a Wikipedia article on someone. We have specific standards for articles about professors, [[WP:PROF]], and only professors who meet that guideline can have articles. That being said, it's often difficult for us to judge the notability of academics from non-English speaking countries, so please let me know if we've misjudged this situation. Thanks! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:52, 29 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:HarpBasedBand]] ==<br />
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Mark, I was wondering whether you could look into this user, who has a large number of vandalism warnings. Typically, HBB inserts empty tables into articles well in advance of when they're needed, and if they're partially filled, they're frequently inaccurate and unsourced. A little while ago, HBB deleted a valid table from [[Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 19)]] with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dancing_with_the_Stars_(U.S._season_19)&oldid=627627586 this edit]] (it has since been restored by another user). I posted vandalism4 template on HBB's talk page, but it's one among many. Thanks for your assistance. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 03:17, 30 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry for the late response. How are his edits over the past week? They look Ok at a quick glance unless I missed something. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:34, 5 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Funnily enough, he made three in a row in the hour since your reply to the same article, [[Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 19)]]. They all have problems: the first was the premature expansion of a table to include a column for next Monday's show, and the next two were the two versions of a new section for next Monday's show (reverted between the edits) that contain an unsourced (and almost certainly incorrect) running order for Monday. (On this past Monday's show, the participants didn't know what order they'd be performing until they were informed, live; as there's been no information I've seen that they're doing things any different this week, it seems likely that the running order won't be known until the live show is broadcast on Monday.) [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 02:31, 5 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Follow-up: I just noticed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACallmemirela&diff=627680957&oldid=627625360 this post] by HarpBasedBand on the talk page of [[User talk:Callmemirela|Callmemirela]], who had reverted earlier edits by HBB. It's an odd one; he promises to become an Administrator (because that would stop Callmemirela from reverting HBB's posts?), but that unsigned note is the extent of the communication. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 02:40, 5 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Follow-up2: New edits at [[Dancing with the Stars (U.S. TV series)]] to the Troupe section. In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dancing_with_the_Stars_(U.S._TV_series)&diff=628410231&oldid=628406309 this edit], he adds the claim that Kym Johnson was in the Troupe seasons 17–19 (she had been a professional with a celebrity partner through season 16). This is clearly impossible, since she has been a judge on the [[Dancing with the Stars (Australian TV series)|Australian version of the show]] since fall 2013, which would mean she would have had to be in Australian and California at the same time ... including right now, since season 19 of the U.S. show and season 14 of the U.S. show both started in September and are continuing through November. HBB earlier added a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dancing_with_the_Stars_(U.S._TV_series)&diff=628287686&oldid=628129881 similar incorrect claim] about Maksim Chmerkofskiy, another pro who'd never been in the troupe, which I reverted. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 02:04, 6 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Draft merge ==<br />
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Will you please merge the history of [[Hail, Caesar!]] into the [[Draft:Hail, Caesar!]], because anonymous users will not stop creating the article in mainspace before its filming start? So please merge the history into draft and keep the content added by "Sock". Thanks. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 02:53, 5 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==GQ Thailand==<br />
Hi, Mark Arsten, I'm really pleased to see that you are back! I seem to remember that you once set up pending changes for me to help deal with a troublesome IP; I wondered, could I ask you to look at [[GQ Thailand]] to see if that might be a possible solution the continuing problems there? I'd be grateful. Regards, [[User:Justlettersandnumbers|Justlettersandnumbers]] ([[User talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 21:01, 7 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Patrick Hoban ==<br />
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Hi Mark, Patrick Hoban's page was originally deleted as "However, Patrick Hoban has still not received significant coverage or played in a fully pro league". Well he has now played two full seasons in the Irish premier league and has just won the Irish league cup. He was also named in the team of the year last year. These were referenced when I recreated the page. Can this page be recreated please? <br />
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Thanks <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:The Irish Phantom|The Irish Phantom]] ([[User talk:The Irish Phantom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Irish Phantom|contribs]]) 14:26, 13 October 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Protection ==<br />
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Hi, can you protect my talk page against vandalism again. There was a halt from last February and now it started up again. This time, maybe you can lengthen the protection for longer than just three days. - [[User:Zarbon|Zarbon]] ([[User talk:Zarbon|talk]]) 17:17, 14 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Deletion review for [[X-Cart]]==<br />
An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#X-Cart|deletion review]] of [[X-Cart]]. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <!-- This originally was from the template {{subst:DRVNote|PAGE_NAME}} ~~~~ --> --[[User:Gruznov|Gruznov]] ([[User talk:Gruznov|talk]]) 00:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== GitLab [Request for Undeletion] ==<br />
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Hi Mark, back in [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/GitLab|Summer 2013]] it might have been a bit harder to find some external sources for the notability of [[GitLab]] ([https://about.gitlab.com/ about.gitlab.com]).<br />
Here are some more from the last year; please consider them in a request for undeletion.<br />
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* [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-wp-washpost-bc-tech-talent08-20141008-story.html Mentioned] in [[Chicago Tribune]];<br />
* [http://thenextweb.com/insider/2014/06/04/github-rival-gitlab-building-business-just-0-1-paying-customers/ In depth article] on [[The Next Web]]<br />
* [https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-gitlab-as-your-very-own-private-github-clone In depth manual] by large Hoster [[DigitalOcean]]<br />
* [https://bitnami.com/stack/gitlab Description] by Cloud Hoster [[bitnami]]<br />
* [https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/development/gitlab-on-ubuntu-14-04 Tutorial] by [[linode]]<br />
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* Number of tagged questions on [[StackOverflow]]: [http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/gitlab?sort=votes&pageSize=50 889]<br />
* Notable submissions to [[Hacker News]]: [https://hn.algolia.com/?q=gitlab#!/story/forever/0/gitlab 95]<br />
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GitLab is also the only product/service listed in [[Comparison_of_open-source_software_hosting_facilities|Comparison of open-source software hosting facilities]] which doesn't have it's own article and is also [http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=gitlab%2C%20alioth%2C%20assembla%2C%20berlios%2C%20betavine&cmpt=q significantly more common] than others on the list; I don't see why it shouldn't qualify too<br />
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extended post from [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#GitLab]]<br />
[[User:Diskurs|Diskurs]] ([[User talk:Diskurs|talk]]) 10:26, 21 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Achievement Hunter ==<br />
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Hi, I saw you on the Achievement Hunter Talk page and wanted to ask you about a article I am making, [[Draft:Achievement Hunter]]. I think this would be a suitable page for AH, especially since the main [[Rooster Teeth#Achievement Hunter|Rooster Teeth]] section about AH has been trimmed '''ALOT'''. Any thoughts on [[Draft:Achievement Hunter| my article]] would be great! Please post them [[Draft talk:Achievement Hunter#Publish this Article!|HERE]] [[User:EoRdE6|EoRdE6]] ([[User talk:EoRdE6|talk]]) 18:42, 21 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Clarification motion ==<br />
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A case ([[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Sexology|Sexology]]) in which you were involved has been modified by {{oldid2|631252824|Motion|motion}} which changed the wording of the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Sexology#Discretionary_sanctions|discretionary sanctions section]] to clarify that the scope applies to pages, not just articles. For the arbitration committee --[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 20:29, 27 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Halloween cheer! ==<br />
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== Drafts merge ==<br />
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Hello Mark! Apparently there are two drafts going on about a single topic, would you please merge the histories of [[Draft:Avengers: Infinity War - Part I]] to [[Draft:Avengers: Infinity War Part 1]] and keep the better content? I already requested you above which you didn't reply but that's okay now. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 06:22, 31 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Afremov ==<br />
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Mark, could you tell why Leonid Afremov article was deleted? Thank you. I do not know how to find your reply. If you could copy it to yuryk@cucor.com, I would appreciate. <br />
Yury<br />
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== Afremov ==<br />
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Mark, could you tell why Leonid Afremov article was deleted? Thank you. I do not know how to find your reply. If you could copy it to yuryk@cucor.com, I would appreciate. <br />
Yury<br />
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== SPI clerk move ==<br />
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Hi, Mark, I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Clerks&diff=633888514&oldid=628877471 moved] you from active to temporarily inactive on the SPI clerk page. Obviously, you're welcome to move yourself back to active if you start clerking again. Regards.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:55, 15 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== the deletion of Paul Terry ==<br />
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the policy clearly states that if an actor has had "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows". Paul has starred in the hit film James and the Giant Peach which is clearly a notable film. He also starred in Microsoap which was also a notable television show.<br />
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== The Casualties ==<br />
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Hi Mark would you be able to put the lock on The Casualties wiki again? I believe it expires this week. Thanks! <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:BeAwareX1|BeAwareX1]] ([[User talk:BeAwareX1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BeAwareX1|contribs]]) 22:20, 1 December 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== deleted page (Magisterium) ==<br />
Hi Mark! Last year a page I created was (correctly) deleted for [[WP:TOOSOON]]: [[Magisterium Series]]. The book is out now, is a bestseller, and there are several good sources for information. I'd like to take a crack at improving the article and putting it back up, but I failed to save the content. Since you were the deleting admin, are you able to restore what I originally created so I don't have to start from scratch? (Or userify it while I improve it?) Thanks! [[User:Caseylf|Caseylf]] ([[User talk:Caseylf|talk]]) 19:57, 7 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
:{{tps}} Mark hasn't been around much lately, unfortunately, but userfied to [[User:Caseylf/Magisterium Series]]. All the best. '''[[User:Go Phightins!|<font color="blue">Go</font>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<font color="#E90004">''Phightins''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Go Phightins!|<font color="#008504">!</font>]]''' 23:33, 7 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you so much! [[User:Caseylf|Caseylf]] ([[User talk:Caseylf|talk]]) 01:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Craig P. Stone]] ==<br />
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Hi Mark,<br />
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I have been continually updating and corroborating all information on my Wiki<br />
and it is still showing "Speedy Deletion".<br />
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Would you be able to help me get my information up on the Wikipedia<br />
Encyclopedia.<br />
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All is valid information and there is no promotion of Craig P. Stone other<br />
than what was accomplished.<br />
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I know you are busy. Thank you for your help.<br />
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Craig Stone <br />
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ie. As I added some additional background it added "SCRIPT ERROR" under my name and my Alma Mater in "red"<br />
:{{tps}} Mark hasn't been around recently, and you're talking about an article that was deleted per a deletion discussion in December 2013. I can't follow what you're saying. You're editing from an IP address, not a registered account, and your other edits (other than this page) don't show you doing anything recently. In any event, I suggest first that you use your registered account. Second, if you want to create a new article that is ''significantly different'' from the one that was deleted, use [[WP:AFC]] to do so rather than try to put it into article space yourself. If the article is similar to what was deleted in 2013, it will be deleted again without discussion per [[WP:CSD#G4]].--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:58, 11 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The Jungle Book (2015 film) ==<br />
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Now the production has begun, would you please merge [[The Jungle Book (2015 film)]] into [[Draft:The Jungle Book (2015 film)]] and then move it all to the mainspace article? It was first time merged by you if you remember. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 03:41, 13 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas!!!==<br />
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'''And remember to keep the CHRIST in CHRISTmas!'''<br />
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== Season's Greetings! ==<br />
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'''Hello Mark Arsten! As we gather to celebrate the changing of years and reflect on [[42 (number)|the meaning of life, the universe, and everything]], I would like to wish you and yours a merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Attached is a small snack which I hope will give you the energy to continue being an amazing person and editor in the coming year.'''<br />
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Happy editing,<br><br />
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::Season's Greetings and Happy New Year, Quentin. All the best. [[Special:Contributions/69.22.169.73|69.22.169.73]] ([[User talk:69.22.169.73|talk]]) 22:33, 31 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==''Merry Merry''==<br />
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== [[Xherdan Shaqiri]] ==<br />
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Hi Mark, just an FYI that I put a 2 day semi on the article as there is quite a bit there at the moment and a bit too much for the PC you put on it to handle just at the moment. Hope you don't mind. <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 03:20, 7 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== reinstating Alliance of Hope for Suicide Survivors' page ==<br />
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Hi Mark, my name is Heather Shadur, and I am on the board of the Alliance of Hope, a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps people across the globe cope with and heal from suicide loss. You recently deleted our page, which one of our volunteers had created. We are primarily a volunteer-led organization, founded by a clinical mental health counselor named Ronnie Walker, LCPS, who lost her stepson to suicide in 1995.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UWuo4TBg8A</ref><br />
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We are listed as a resource for survivors by major respected organizations, such as the National Suicide Prevention Resource Center, the "nation’s only federally supported resource center devoted to advancing the National Strategy for Suicide Prevention," <ref>http://www.sprc.org/sites/sprc.org/files/Survivors.pdf</ref>, American Association of Suicidology <ref>http://www.suicidology.org/resources-links-of-interest</ref>, American Foundation of Suicide Prevention <ref>https://www.afsp.org/coping-with-suicide-loss/where-do-i-begin/other-websites-organizations#onlinesupportgroups</ref>, and many others. Just last month we were listed as one of the "Top 10 Suicide Prevention Websites," by GoodTherapy (I cannot cite the link because Wiki has a protection filter for their site... not sure why.)<br />
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Our free services include: an informational website <ref>www.allianceofhope.org</ref>, which provides resources for new survivors, a blog, and a bookstore; a clinically moderated forum <ref>http://forum.allianceofhope.org</ref>, which hosts the largest online community of suicide-loss survivors in the world, with more than 6,800 members and 140,000 posts; and a Facebook page, with an editorial calendar of 60 supportive posts a month <ref>https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alliance-of-Hope-for-Suicide-Survivors.</ref>. We have upwards of 10 newly bereaved survivors joining our forum every day, seeking help, and we receive daily emails from people who say we are their lifeline. Google AdWords has provided us with an in-kind grant of $120K, to help people who need our services find us more easily. <br />
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Would you kindly contact me at heather@shadur.com, to let me know what we need to do to have the page reinstated, and what further info you need? My very best, Heather [[Special:Contributions/72.130.176.142|72.130.176.142]] ([[User talk:72.130.176.142|talk]]) 10:23, 9 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Shawn Welling ==<br />
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Hi there! I'm working on a page on filmmaker Shawn Welling, and I'd like to know what I can do to get it published on Wikipedia proper. I notice that there have been prior attempts, but this is my first try.<br />
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Here's a link to my draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shawn_Welling<br />
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Please let me know what I can do to improve it!<br />
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Thanks!<br />
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[[User:Luckynumber78|Luckynumber78]] ([[User talk:Luckynumber78|talk]]) 20:02, 13 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Reply ==<br />
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== 3 years ==<br />
Hiya Mark. Some 3 years+ ago there was an AfD for a page called [[Forrest Yoga]]. In fact, the page was noticed more than once it seems. ''Dead links'' for references and ''self-written/original research'' material predominated in the article space as a basis for ''verifiability''. There is claim to ''exclusivity of practice(s)'', again purporting original research/creation. Considering, the article space is almost completely reliant on materials written/supposed by the article space referent to assume validity. Could you please revisit the page and discuss if a deletion review would be relevant? PS: the 7 references here aren't mine; look like they orphaned from #58 somehow <small><span style="border:solid 1px orange; background:cyan">[[User:Nikto|<span style="font-family:Chiller">Nikto</span>]] [[User talk:Nikto|<font color="red">''wha?''</font>]]</span></small> 03:40, 16 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 22, 2015]] ==<br />
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A summary of a Featured Article you nominated at [[WP:FAC]] will appear on the Main Page soon. Does the article need more work before hitting the Main Page? I had to squeeze the summary down to a little over 1200 characters; was there anything I left out you'd like to see put back in? - Dank ([[User talk:Dank|push to talk]]) 20:34, 27 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Requesting a copy of the deleted text ==<br />
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Hi Marks.<br />
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Congratulations for the excellent work u'v done. <br />
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Can u plz provide me a copy [[Edupristine]], please? I need it because I am studying some of the deleted pages with promotional content. You can post it @ [[User:Ammabava/sandbox]]. Umpteen thanks in advance. --[[User:Ammabava|Ammabava]] ([[User talk:Ammabava|talk]]) 09:50, 16 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
==Request for your opinion==<br />
Good morning Mark! I noticed you've edited a topic related to [[Jimmy Edgar]] somewhat recently, and was hoping to collect viewpoints on an aesthetic issue. If you had a minute to [[Talk:Jimmy_Edgar#Request_for_consensus.2Fvote_on_Jimmy_Edgar_infobox_photo|contribute to the discussion/vote on the infobox photo]], that would be very helpful. [[User:Earflaps|Earflaps]] ([[User talk:Earflaps|talk]]) 11:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== 2013 DCFC Wikipedia page ==<br />
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Hi Mark, <br />
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I wanted to reach out to you about the deletion of Detroit City FC's '2013 Season' Wikipedia page. I work with the club, and helped to maintain and edit that page. Detroit City Football Club is a popular team that plays in the National Premier Soccer League, which is a recognized league within the US Soccer Federation that is commonly referred to as a fourth-tier league. So, while it's not a top league, it is most certainly legitimate, real and an important piece in the structure of U.S. soccer. The club sees 3,000 supporters per match at Cass Technical High School in Detroit, MI., and as the team grows and looks to advance to a higher league, it is essential that the page you deleted returns. Not only for supporters looking to learn more about our team, but also for the club's own records.<br />
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It would be helpful to better understand your reasoning for deleting this page, so we can work together to get it back. Thank you for your time.<br />
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Lindsey Pehrson<br />
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[[Special:Contributions/2601:4:1F00:D800:9123:467D:1D89:DA0A|2601:4:1F00:D800:9123:467D:1D89:DA0A]] ([[User talk:2601:4:1F00:D800:9123:467D:1D89:DA0A|talk]]) 17:41, 20 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== TFA ==<br />
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'''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/PumpkinSky Prize|<span style="color:orange;">Precious</span>]]''' [[User talk:PumpkinSky|again]], your article on [[Clarence 13X]]! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:37, 22 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Restoring deleted files ==<br />
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I was wondering if you could restore a couple of files that you deleted. They are both non-free images that I uploaded with a fair use rationale, and they both got removed from their respective articles. For some reason, I wasn't notified that they were nominated for deletion. Anyway, the two images are Belgrave Heights Christian School logo.jpg and Concordia University Wisconsin logo.png. [[User:StAnselm|<b>St</b>]][[Special:Contributions/StAnselm|Anselm]] ([[User talk:StAnselm|talk]]) 20:29, 28 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind; I just uploaded them again. [[User:StAnselm|<b>St</b>]][[Special:Contributions/StAnselm|Anselm]] ([[User talk:StAnselm|talk]]) 05:02, 3 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deepak Bajracharya ==<br />
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Dear Mark Arsten<br />
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Deepak Bajracharya, a Nepali singer was born on May 2 in Lalitpur, Nepal.<br />
He started his musical career in the song Chodi Gayo Priya. Since , he had recorded more than 250 songs and did more than 300 programmes.<br />
He also did his first live concert in City Hall (1988) (2045). He too combine with other band for the concert in different countries including Nepal. With 1974AD ICON 2003 at .Ktm And Hong Kong, Rovin & Lujaw And Mongoliyan Heart at Dasrath Stadium. Ktm, with Ram K Dhakal and J Rajani Kant at Japan.<br />
He did his major solo concert in Deepak’s Night In Hong Kong (2002), World No Tobacco Day Mega Event live (2003) Presented By NHEICC & WHO at Dasrath Stadium. Ktm, Deepak Bajracharya Live In Patan at Patan Durbar Square, Deepak Bajracharya Live In Unplugged 2004 at Royal Nepal Academy.Ktm, Ma Ra Mero Guitar at Malla Hotel, Deepak Bajrachary Live In Biratnagar (2005).<br />
Among 250 songs his famous and hits songs included, Kali Kali Hissi Pareki, Ow Amira, Kati Baschau Maiti Gharma, Ritu, Jhumu Jhumu .<br />
He was also the brand ambassador of Bagpiper Whiskey, Kodak Film, Samsung Electronic and World Link Communication.<br />
He also awarded with different title award as Best Male Vocal Performance 1999 A.D., Best Music Video Award 2000 A.D, Album of the Year 2003 A.D.and so on.<br />
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for more info http://songsnepali.co/biography-of-deepak-bajracharya/<br />
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http://singerdeepak.com/<br />
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So i would like you to re generate this page again so that i can post all info to this.<br />
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Thanks and Regards <br />
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Indeep Koirala <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Koiralaindeep|Koiralaindeep]] ([[User talk:Koiralaindeep|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Koiralaindeep|contribs]]) 11:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Question about banner page ==<br />
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Dear Sir,<br />
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I just would like to know why the pictures gallery of the Arnaud Courlet de Vregille page has be pulled out. Do you know if it's possible to put it back.<br />
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Thank you and sorry for my english.<br />
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--[[User:Drapé|Drapé]] ([[User talk:Drapé|talk]]) 15:23, 15 March 2015 (UTC)</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=651488217Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2015-03-15T15:04:02Z<p>Drapé: /* Sources */</p>
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| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
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| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
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| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en|title=Genealogy - Roglo|work=roglo.eu}}</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
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The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
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== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]'' (1975)]]<br />
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The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78.</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
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"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very depths of abstract art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111.</ref>''".<br />
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On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
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"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32.</ref>"<br />
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"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independent vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
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== Shows ==<br />
*Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br />
*Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br />
*Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br />
*Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br />
*Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br />
*Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
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[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|''Concerto'' (2006)]]<br />
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=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br />
*Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br />
*Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art><br />
*Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br />
*Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br />
*Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
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=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
*Pierre Cornette de Cyr<br />
*Guy Loudemer<br />
*Maître Pillon<br />
*Maître Machoïr<br />
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== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe'' (1994)]]<br />
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*Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br />
*Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br />
*Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br />
*Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br />
*Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br />
*Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br />
*Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br />
*Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br />
*Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br />
*Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br />
*Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
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== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
*1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br />
*Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br />
*Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br />
*Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
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[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|''Brünhilde'' (2012)]]<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
;Catalogs of exhibitions :<br />
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*"Art concours 1993"<br />
*Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
*Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
*Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
*Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
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;Regional press:<br />
*''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
*''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
*''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
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;France télévisions :<br />
*"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
*"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
*"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
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;Radio broadcast :<br />
*RCF Radio (2014, 2012)<br />
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==References==<br />
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== External links ==<br />
* {{YouTube|Ki66L2QnzQA|Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté}}<br />
* {{YouTube|c44HhXmOdF4|Un homme, un style, une oeuvre}}<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
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==Mahusha==<br />
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Please help to edit [[galileo]]- professorship at pisa by adding more information.<br />
:Hmm, I'm not sure I'll be able to get around to that anytime soon. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 04:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Mahusha==<br />
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Merry christmas.<br />
:Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:05, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Mahusha==<br />
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Please say your number of edits.<br />
:I've made about 107,500 edits or so, in about 30 months. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pcount/index.php This tool] will show you how many edits each user has made. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:30, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Wow! that's amazing and Merry christmas. Will you become friend of me? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mahusha|Mahusha]] ([[User talk:Mahusha|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mahusha|contribs]]) 06:36, 25 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Sure, I would be glad to be your friend. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Mahusha==<br />
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How can I become a administrator of wikipedia, but I am auto confirmed user. [[User:Mahusha|Mahusha (talk)]]<br />
:It's not easy! You basically have to be a model Wikipedian for at least a year first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== User:PWB Health Ltd ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I've unblocked {{userlinks|PWB Health Ltd}} (which you softblocked) to allow them to request an rename. I hope you don't mind. Regards, <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 11:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No prob, thanks for handling that. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Gentle reminder ==<br />
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As mentioned further up the page, mind moving the prodded pages [[Shab-al-Hiri Roach]] and [[Durance (role-playing game)]] to my userspace please? [[User:Neonchameleon|Neonchameleon]] ([[User talk:Neonchameleon|talk]]) 15:03, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, done. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ASSISTANCE WITH FLO RIDA PAGE ==<br />
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Hello, Someone has seriously vandalized this page removing all reference to FLO RIDA song for Charity with MARC MYSTERIO which has charted internationally as well and is highly publicized.<br />
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Theyve removed Mysterio from related acts and all mentions of the single.<br />
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The song was to benefit ONE FUND BOSTON.<br />
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Can you check through the edits made on that page and revert them? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/109.76.50.30|109.76.50.30]] ([[User talk:109.76.50.30|talk]]) 19:56, 17 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:What is the exact title of the page you're referring to? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:05, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== non-constructive edits ==<br />
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I just got the following message from you:<br />
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Please refrain from making nonconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Boring, Oregon with this edit. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Administrators have the ability to block users from editing if they repeatedly engage in vandalism. Thank you. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Navigation menu<br />
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I hope you at least read the edit. (ahem!) <br />
::And I am here to announce that I find the reaction time between graffiti (or humorous edit) and Wikipedia editor is incredibly quick. So I guess- "Good Work" is in due for you. (Even if I wish my edit on Boring, Oregon would've stayed.) <br />
'''As for a possible solution/idea you may offer me:'''<br />
:No, I will not post it on the Uncyclopedia, which is over edited lame humor.<br />
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My edit was as follows:<br />
All Wikipedia contributors apologize for any sighs of boredom that the reader of this article may exhale. In the future please note that Wikipedia strives for informative information and is not responsible for readers who wish to find something not boring in an article titled "Boring, Oregon".<br />
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Cheers, --[[Special:Contributions/71.205.198.123|71.205.198.123]] ([[User talk:71.205.198.123|talk]]) 01:25, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I did find your edit humorous. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:50, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I apologize, it will not happen again. Hopefully. --[[Special:Contributions/71.205.198.123|71.205.198.123]] ([[User talk:71.205.198.123|talk]]) 01:57, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Since you've blocked the normals from Jimbo's talk page, I'll post to you ==<br />
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Russavia is posting legal threats that Jimbo might want to know about.<br />
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Jimmy_Wales_by_Pricasso_%28the_making_of%29.ogv&diff=prev&oldid=112046724<br />
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By the way, it seems kind of draconian to block that many users from Jimbo's talk page to get Mbz1. [[User:Hell might be other people|Hell might be other people]] ([[User talk:Hell might be other people|talk]]) 03:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It is unfortunate that we don't have a better solution to deal with IP-hopping disruption we do now, I agree. I was going to ignore her, but then she started edit warring, so I decided protection was merited. I suggest you use the "Email this user" function to bring this incident to Jimbo's attention. Or you could post on his Commons talk page: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales User talk:Jimbo Wales]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:10, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Would you be so kind as to post it to his en.wp talk page? I don't think he watches or responds on commons and Russavia is saying some pretty vile things about him on commons. Thanks in advance. [[User:Hell might be other people|Hell might be other people]] ([[User talk:Hell might be other people|talk]]) 03:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I have to run at the moment, but if you post the message you want added to his talk page to [[WP:RFED]] someone should copy it over. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:Bashtowndriyp]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your help with that rather messy affair. I'll keep an eye on things when he's unblocked, and so will a few others who work AfC who are aware of what's going on. Many thanks, my friend. :) [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 10:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, let me know if there are any more issues. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Savedship ==<br />
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A sockpuppet of {{User|Savedship002}} a user whom you indefinitely blocked for [[Wikipedia:Vandalism-only account|VOA]] only 18 hours ago has popped up. → {{User|Savedship001}}. &#9733;&#9734; [[User:DUCKISJAMMMY|<font color="Fuchsia">DUCK</font><font color="blue">IS</font><font color="Fuchsia">JAMMMY</font>]]&#9734;&#9733; 10:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Nevermind {{alreadydone}} by [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]]. Thanks for the previous block. &#9733;&#9734; [[User:DUCKISJAMMMY|<font color="Fuchsia">DUCK</font><font color="blue">IS</font><font color="Fuchsia">JAMMMY</font>]]&#9734;&#9733; 11:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RevisionDelete&target=Special%3ALog%2Fnewusers&type=logging&ids=53354337 RevDel] ==<br />
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Hi. Just a small thing, but it should be enough to only delete the username and not the action in these examples (''à la'' [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RevisionDelete&target=Special%3ALog%2Fnewusers&type=logging&ids=49919132]), since the phrase "was created" is not itself offensive. '''[[User:It Is Me Here|<font color="#006600">It Is Me Here</font>]]''' <sup>'''[[User_talk:It Is Me Here|<font color="#CC6600">t</font>]] / [[Special:Contributions/It Is Me Here|<font color="#CC6600">c</font>]]</sup>''' 15:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see my mistake now. Thanks for the note, I'll keep that in mind. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==HornAfrik Media Inc==<br />
Hi Mark, Could you please undelete Ali-Ahmed.jpg now that [[HornAfrik Media Inc]] is out of the creation process! Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 18:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I've undeleted it. Not sure if it qualifies as fair use in that article or not though. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:03, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Thank you, the image ended up in the content fork on the Attacks on HornAfrik Media Inc. We appreciate all your assistance Mark! [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 19:55, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merge request==<br />
Mark, could you merge the histories of [[User:Crtew/Norberto_Miranda]] and [[User:Crtew/Norberto Miranda Madrid]] together into the [[User:Crtew/Norberto Miranda Madrid]] article so all the edits are together in one place for CC copyright. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 20:00, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, it's taken care of now, I think. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, Perfect! [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 20:14, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Loque2009 ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
Because I found out that Loque2009 was only using the account for spam / advertising purposes, please reblock this user indefinitely.<br />
Thanks!<br />
[[User:Thewikiguru1|Thewikiguru1]] ([[User talk:Thewikiguru1|talk]]) 21:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I might be willing to do that, but I think you should ask the blocking admin first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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OK, I have asked the blocking admin [[User:Edgar181|Edgar181]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|talk]]).<br />
[[User:Thewikiguru1|Thewikiguru1]] ([[User talk:Thewikiguru1|talk]]) 21:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"<br />
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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Admin's Barnstar'''<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I see you everywhere lately - blocking vandals, deleting spam, saving the weak! [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 22:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:18, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
==Sorry==<br />
oh I'm sorry, I understand what I did wrong now. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.128.219.189|65.128.219.189]] ([[User talk:65.128.219.189|talk]]) 00:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Ali Iman Sharmarke ==<br />
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Mark, Could you undelete the image HornAfrik.jpg for the article [[Ali Iman Sharmarke]] now that it is published. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 04:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, done. I think the FUR needs to be updated though. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:59, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Opinion ==<br />
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If you could, please check out these two users: Pinakulo and Fairyspit. I want someone else's opinion before I call [[wp:sockpuppetry|sock puppetry]] on them. Look at their contributions, based mainly on the edits of [[Benedict Cumberbatch]] or anyone affiliated with him like ex-girlfriends. They both seem very set on reverting any edit they don't agree with until it's border line an edit war. Please let me know what you think. Thank you! :) [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 12:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, they both seem to focus on Cumberbatch and have both edited [[Katia Elizarova]] a decent amount as well. That does seem suspicious. To file a successful case at [[WP:SPI]] though, you'd have to present diffs of very similar edits that they've made. Ideally something like, one accounts adds something to an article, someone removes it, then the other account re-adds it. If you can show that kind of thing on more than one article you're very likely to get a checkuser to examine their IPs. Basically just present enough evidence so it seems like more than just a coincidence that they have the same interests. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:06, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::I will, thank you! [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 21:16, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::If you'd like to comment on this, I opened up a discussion here [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fairyspit]]. If not, that's fine. Thanks for your help! [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 18:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Eat, Pray, Love ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I was the one who requested a protect for the Eat, Pray, Love page due to an edit war where edits selectively removes negative reviews from notable sources (Huffington Post and The New York Times). I had requested temporary full protect to encourage use of the talk page, but I was the only one you ended up blocking, and now the user who had removed the negative reviews disappeared from the talk page. It may be that the neutrality of a low-importance article is not significant, but if you think it's worthwhile perhaps you could look at the edits and talk page (there were previous complaints about neutrality due to the dearth of negative reviews). Regardless, I yield to your greater expertise and won't edit further. Thanks for all the work you seem to do on Wikipedia. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E|2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E]] ([[User talk:2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E|talk]]) 13:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, from the perspective of an edit looking at a content dispute, my goal is to stop the edit warring more than it is to make sure the "right" version of the page is in place. So, in this case, semi-protection stopped the edit warring, though maybe not on the "right" version. If I had full protected it, it would have definitely stuck on the "wrong" version for a while, since by default I protect the current version. If the editor in question doesn't want to discuss, you could ask on the talk page of a relevant Wikiproject (perhaps [[WP:WikiProject Books]]) for uninvolved users to comment or try opening an [[WP:RFC]] on the talk page of the article to get more input. Let me know if you have any more questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:36, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Rif Dimashq offensive (September–November 2013) ==<br />
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You can set the protection on this page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_Dimashq_offensive_%28September%E2%80%93November_2013%29 Rif Dimashq offensive (September–November 2013)][[User:Hanibal911|Hanibal911]] ([[User talk:Hanibal911|talk]]) 13:49, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a little bit less disruption at this point than I like to see before protecting, so I think I'll hold off for now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Geraldine Edwards hoax ==<br />
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Thanks for blocking [[Special:Contributions/146.244.11.175|146.244.11.175]] just now. The person represents a real BLP problem.<br />
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I have been working hard undoing the work of this person based in San Diego who in April–May 2011 started adding stuff about Geraldine Edwards to various articles. This person has created a couple of hoax references to help the hoax text resist deletion, which strategy has in fact worked pretty well until today. I was surprised to see that the San Diego person reacted so strongly today; I guess I thought the person had stopped caring about these articles a long time ago. I was wrong! <br />
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The hoax material usually gives Geraldine Edwards an important place as groupie or girlfriend in several musician biographies, a place at least the equal of [[Bebe Buell]] with regard to Buell or someone else being the inspiration for the groupies in the film ''Almost Famous''.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bebe_Buell&diff=427271037&oldid=421591398][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groupie&diff=427467343&oldid=427099477][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rick_Springfield&diff=427785131&oldid=427564082] This IP editor also smears the name of Mary Ambrose[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carl_Carlton_%28German_musician%29&diff=470120650&oldid=455072794] or pushes her down in importance[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honey_%28Robert_Palmer_album%29&diff=427280899&oldid=423256102]; Ambrose was Robert Palmer's longterm girlfriend at the time of his death and a co-composer on two of his songs. <br />
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Here are some fake references used by the IP:<br />
*{{cite news |first=Frank |last=Phelps |coauthors= |title=Dapper Rocker Robert Palmer dies |work=[[The Chicago Sun Times]] |page=27 |date=28 September 2003 |accessdate=2 May 2009|quote= |url= }}<br />
*{{cite news |first=Tracy |last=Marks |coauthors= |title=Former Employee and Lover of Robert Palmer Challenges his Will; Mary Ambrose says she is not a Heartless Goldigger |work=[[The Sun (United Kingdom)|The Sun]] |page=39 |date=29 October 2004 |accessdate=2 May 2009|quote= |url= }}<br />
*{{cite new| title=Eric Clapton Talks| author=Mark D'Ambrosio| newspaper=[[The Boston Beacon]]| date=June 20, 2006| url=http://articles.TheBostonBeacon.com/2006/June/20/local/me-clapton11/6}} [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Clapton&diff=428319709&oldid=428033853] ...Which was soon changed to the following...<br />
*{{cite new| title=Eric Clapton Talks| author=Mark D'Ambrosio| newspaper=[[The Boston Globe]]| date=June 20, 2006| url=http://articles.TheBostonGlobe.com/2006/June/20/local/me-clapton11/6}} [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Clapton&diff=next&oldid=428320058]<br />
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Since many people involved in this hoax are still alive, I wanted to let you know the extent of it, so that the BLP case is somewhat familiar if it arises in the future. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 22:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:For instance, when San Diego person gets home from work and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Palmer_%28singer%29&diff=prev&oldid=586867319 reduces Mary Ambrose] on the machine at home. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 00:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for the note, I'll look into it more later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:31, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, this is very strange. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for your various protections and blocks—what a relief! [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 04:11, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lam Duong ==<br />
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Could you undelete the image Lam_Duong.png now that [[Assassination of Vietnamese-American journalists in the United States]] has been created. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 22:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Are you sure that's the name? I don't see a file there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== CSD-F5 deletion of .pdf image ==<br />
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The deletion of [[:File:New_Jersey_Dry_Town_Listing.pdf]] was performed under [[WP:CSD#F5]], but as the uploaded item is a .pdf file from the State of New Jersey, and the file is linked directly by about 20 articles as a link rather than as an image. It would appear, as I read it, that the image did not meet the qualifications to delete the file under CSD F5. Any thoughts on restoring the file? [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 03:33, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I've temp undeleted it for now {{ping|DavidinNJ}} had marked it as non-free, perhaps he could comment. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Xmas in Advance ==<br />
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<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:green; background-color:white; font color:red; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">[[image:Christmas_tree_sxc_hu.jpg|70px|left]]<br />
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[[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) is wishing you a [[Mary Poppins|Merry]] [[Christmas]]! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> <br />
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Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{tls|Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.<br />
</div> [[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) 13:41, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the Christmas cheer! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== List of Harry Potter characters query ==<br />
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Please see [[Talk:List_of_Harry_Potter_characters#Students_in_Harry.27s_year]]. Thanks :)<br />
:I suggest you discuss the issue there and try to come to a consensus. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Teresa Cristina ==<br />
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Have you protected indefinitely by mistake? [[User:DrKiernan|DrKiernan]] ([[User talk:DrKiernan|talk]]) 18:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that was a mistake... I'm glad someone caught that! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:16, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Removed references by mistake on the Winter Solstice page===<br />
Hi I removed the references from :http://en.wikipedia.org/Winter_solstice<br />
by mistake. Can you please help? and bring them back? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.172.197.188|122.172.197.188]] ([[User talk:122.172.197.188|talk]]) 20:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Ok, I added them back. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:05, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandalism on [[Origami]] ==<br />
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The vandal on Origami is obviously back again, now as a registered autoconfirmed user, {{vandal|BurfyAdkins}}, to bypass the indefinite semi-protection. A user account that was created on 17 December, the day after [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A66.118.71.123 the block on the last IP he used] expired, made the needed number of more or less meaningless edits on other articles and then sat back, waiting to become autoconfirmed, before making [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=587003302&oldid=585699309 the exact same vandalism] on Origami as the various blocked IPs did (note the misspelling in BurfyAdkins' edit summary "Oragami", which duplicates the IP-vandal's spelling [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=585141036&oldid=585140796 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=585140787&oldid=584066859 here]). And my gut feeling tells me not only that it is the same individual, but also that he has created several spare sleeper accounts... [[User:Thomas.W|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#164D0B">'''Thomas.W'''</font>]] [[User talk:Thomas.W|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#164D0B"><sup><small>'''talk to me'''</small></sup></font>]] 20:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, thanks for the note. I blocked Burfy indef for now. Amazing how persistent some of these guys are... If any more pop up I'll talk to a checkuser about a sleeper check. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Aww, you're going to delete my very straightforward comments? Pity. Oh, well. Yes, I do have sleeper accounts, but I haven't decided whether to use them yet, or to go in a different direction. You're correct that I'm persistent, though. Still, I'm willing to come out in the open and state my intentions. So you don't have to play guessing games. FYI, kind of a busy day for me, so I'm done for now. Just wanted to see how fast the response would be to Burfy. I'll be back, probably next week. Have a Merry Christmas! [[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.146|74.82.64.146]] ([[User talk:74.82.64.146|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 22:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:::{{ping|74.82.64.146}} Just a note that with comments like this, you will be blocked for block evasion and for vandalism, and your registered accounts will be indefinitely blocked. [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 00:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry for ignoring you Mr. IP. I'm willing to listen if you have something to tell me, but I can't guarantee much else. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Athens Metro Station Layouts, added by socks of blocked user [[user:Pumpie|Pumpie]] ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I looked through the page history of some of the [[Athens Metro]] stations. Apparently, blocked user [[User:Pumpie|Pumpie]] and their socks (now blocked) added station layouts to the Athens Metro, and you reverted some of their edits; thanks for that. However, many of the station layouts are still there, in a poorly coded condition, and I think that you have overlooked some of their edits. Should the layouts stay, should I replace them with new layouts that are in a better condition (see some of the Taipei Metro and NYC Subway station layouts for examples of station layouts that I can convert Pumpie's layouts to), or should they be deleted altogether? I know how to fix the station layouts and can do so easily. Let me know of your thoughts on this. Thanks, [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 21:11, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, it's up to you, but if you have the energy then I think replacing them with new layouts would be the best option. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Wow, that was a expeditious response. I'll start doing that ASAP. [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 21:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sounds good! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:22, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Carlos Beltrán]] ==<br />
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Now that this guy becomes part of [[New York Yankees]] officially, I guess that issues are resolved. Semi-protection is too much for now, so why not re-enabling PC1 and let IPs edit again trustfully? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 22:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I'm a bit hesitant to do so because of the libelous nature of some of the vandalism that he was getting earlier in the month. It's revision deleted now though, so I can't point it out. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 22:23, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: You mean before the December 7 incident? If so, I'll ask [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]. The unsourced edits after December 7 are NYY-related. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 23:50, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::The libelous edits I deleted were on December 2, I think. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd guess it's probably safe, since most of it was related to the transaction that only became official yesterday. If vandalism continues, we can always re-protect it. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 00:32, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::: Under one condition, can you enable indefinite PC1? I'm sure that some IPs will do good. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 01:17, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== {{user|089baby}} ==<br />
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I'm writing here because of your involvement in the SPI into this user. The case has gotten somewhat ridiculous. He has used five new sockpuppets in the last six weeks or so, for a total of seventeen this year. It's clearly gotten to a point where blocking is a completely ineffective sanction. So was wondering if there is anything else that could be done to keep him off Wikipedia? In the SPI someone suggested blocking the underlying IP address. Is this possible, and would it stop him from creating new accounts? Thanks in advance for your help. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 02:43, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I blocked the most recent incarnation on the duck test. In some cases checkusers can issue a range block to the underlying IP range, but oftentimes, [[WP:RBI|revert, block, ignore]] is the best we can do. [[User:Mailer diablo]] was the last CU to look into it, so you might ask him if there's anything else that can be done. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:13, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for the suggestion. I've asked [[User:Mailer diablo]] about a range block and other possibilities. That being said, would it be inappropriate for me to report future sockpuppets directly to you instead of, or in addition to, an SPI, because I've got one for you, [[User:Holydog007]]. Part of the reason blocking has been so ineffective in the case that its usually taken about ten days to identify and block new sockpuppets. I'm now watching several key articles in this case. This is how, I managed to find the last two socks so quickly. I'm hoping that with quicker enforcement action he might just take his block seriously. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 05:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, I hope he's able to. Yes, feel free to report them on my talk page if you want. Technically it's good to have the full paper trail of a SPI filing, but the important thing is that they end up blocked. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 06:37, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request for Assistance ==<br />
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Would it be possible if I can get your assistance with dealing with an unruly ip? An ip, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.250.4.115] 98.250.4.115 is upset with the edits of one [[User:Op47|Op47]] over the splitting of [[Largest organisms]], and demonstrated its upset-ness by demanding that Op47 undo his edits or face banning for his "vandalisms." I removed the ip's threat here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOp47&diff=587047936&oldid=587047112] but it was then undone by [[User:Irishfrisian|Irishfrisian]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Op47&diff=next&oldid=587047936], and the ip then proceeded to accuse me of defending a vandal. Perhaps you would be better at persuading 98.250.4.115 to be more civil?--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 03:42, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I left him a message. We'll see how he responds. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 04:05, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for your help.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 04:38, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Thankyou to both of you for your help. [[User:Op47|Op47]] ([[User talk:Op47|talk]]) 13:03, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request for Assistance: DELETION PAGE ==<br />
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You deleted David D.A. Doman page. I am requesting the page be reactivated. It was the lack of sources that had the page removed, and I would like to add more credibly sources. How do I go about requesting the page be put live again? Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ranu79|Ranu79]] ([[User talk:Ranu79|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ranu79|contribs]]) 17:02, 21 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It depends, do you have sources that indicate he meets [[WP:GNG|our general notability guideline]]? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:50, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Chamillionaire protection ==<br />
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Hi! I noticed you protected the page [[Chamillionaire]] with the summary "Persistent vandalism". I see no vandalism at all to the page in the last month, and very little in the last few months. —[[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Emufarmers|T]]/[[Special:contributions/Emufarmers|C]])</small></sup> 19:08, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, I didn't protect it, I placed it under pending changes which still allows IPs to edit. I count at least seven disruptive IP edits in the last fifty edits which I think is enough to justify PC, particularly for a BLP. {{unsigned|Mark Arsten}}<br />
::The last 50 edits span 4 months, which doesn't strike me as an overwhelming barrage. On the other hand, I tend to think we should have PC on all BLPs as a matter of principle, so I guess I shouldn't be complaining. :-)<br />
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::By the way, [http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1teba8/i_am_wizardman_a_wikipedia_administrator_former/ce72z5o] (if that's not what brought you to the article in the first place). —[[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Emufarmers|T]]/[[Special:contributions/Emufarmers|C]])</small></sup> 03:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No, not overwhelming, but enough that I think pending changes is acceptable. For overwhelming vandalism I use semi-protection, but for BLPs that consistently have vandalism issues at a lower frequency I tend to opt for pending changes. How much vandalism exactly merits pending vs semi vs none is certainly a grey area, but when dealing with BLPs I err on the side of caution. I tend to agree with you about how we'd handle all BLPs in a perfect world, looking at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&tagfilter=possible+libel+or+vandalism this list] each day is pretty sobering. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 06:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Topic Ban ==<br />
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Hi Mark, hope you have been well. Just wondering if you know much about topic bans for users and the process to possibly start a discussion about implementing one for a user? Thanks. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 20:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well I guess the usual way is to open an ani discussion to discuss their conduct and see if it is concerning to anyone else. If so, then open a subheading in the discussion to hold a !vote on topic banned. The key is to clearly spell out the disruption. Let me know if you have any more questions. {{unsigned|Mark Arsten}}<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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Please Office Protect my user page<br />
([[User:FMacks|FMacks]] ([[User talk:FMacks|talk]]) 01:58, 22 December 2013 (UTC))<br />
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== AfD on DOM? ==<br />
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As the AfD on [[:David Oscar Markus]] generated no interest, can we close the AfD and just go for a speedy? Thanks. – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 02:30, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Generally I don't do that. Sometimes leaving it open for a bit leads to a much more solid consensus, which is helpful to have if someone tries to get it undeleted. There was some Rfc about closing one-week-old Afds like we would PRODs, and I don't think there was consensus to do it that way. I can't find the Rfc now though, so I may be mistaken. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[:Roger#Radio phraseology|Roger]]. – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 06:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, sometimes it's best to PROD first and then go to Afd if it's contested. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:55, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Scott Leaton ==<br />
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Hi [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark]],<br />
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You deleted [[Scott Leaton]] after closing the AFD. Do you have any objections to userfication so that I can do some work on it? [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 06:11, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I think this is one of those rare situations where you can actually cut and paste it into a sandbox. Just note what you're doing in the edit summary. Then if it's moved back to mainspace I'll just history merge your sandbox and the article since there won't be any intervening edits. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:51, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::OK. I was also thinking of using the new [[WP:DRAFTS|draft space]] feature, unless I can find a lot of good stuff for him. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 23:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, that does make sense. I really haven't been following the draft space news though. I should get up to speed. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::It just started a few days ago, so no worries. :) I will start a user page draft, and then probably sometime later this week I will move to drafts if I can't build it up enough on my own. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 01:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sounds good to me. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:29, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Emmitt Smith]] ==<br />
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The PC protection will end for almost a week. I believe that extra protection time is needed; vandalism hasn't stopped yet. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 10:00, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, good catch. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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Hi Mark Arsten, user Vahram Mekhitaryan repeatedly added wrong, not related links in articles, and starting edit wars. Please take some action against it.--[[User:Δαβίδ|Δαβίδ]] ([[User talk:Δαβίδ|talk]]) 10:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:{{tps}} Provide diffs. [[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) 10:17, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::That user repeatedly adding original research statement ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_Eternity_sign&diff=586500771&oldid=586488241]), which has been removed per discussion at talk page, but he readding it again. <br />
::Adding non related links ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=586501449&oldid=586490944], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=586762861&oldid=586682962], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=587209306&oldid=587116534]). Besides, reverting edits with uncertain/wrong explainations in edit summary.<br />
::He was previosly blocked 3 times for edit war in same article.--[[User:Δαβίδ|Δαβίδ]] ([[User talk:Δαβίδ|talk]]) 10:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Hmm, I think it might be best to take him to [[WP:ANI]] now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:23, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RFPP ==<br />
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Hi Mark Arsten, thanks for all the great work you've been doing at RFPP recently; I see your name appear in my watchlist there every day. :) Hope you've been having a pleasant holiday season, too! Best. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 18:49, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, it feels good to keep the backlogs at bay. Best holiday wishes to you too. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:55, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== More pages pending changes ==<br />
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Protection time of [[Vivek Oberoi]] is running out; there are still vandals out there. I'll mention more later. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 19:53, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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What about [[Bidisha]] and [[Friday the 13th (franchise)]]? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 20:12, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I've extended Vivek, but I don't see much recent vandalism on the other two. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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What about [[Paoli Dam]] and [[Uri Sebag]]? [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 06:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Repeat IP vandal (under many different IP addresses) ==<br />
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Mark, yesterday I reported a persistent vandal on [[A Katy or a Gaga]] and other ''Glee'' articles who had finally strayed into 3RR territory, and the user, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.69.116.46 76.69.116.46], was blocked for 24 hours. Said user is back today under IP [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.91.131.143 174.91.131.143], making the same edits trying to add Care Bears directors and writers to this particular episode's info. (I've just now reverted the edits, but don't expect the reversion to hold unless action is taken.)<br />
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As noted, this has been happening since early November. (November 9: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.91.129.253 174.91.129.253]; November 15 and 18: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.95.201.175 174.95.201.175]; December 7: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.148.91.202 184.148.91.202]; December 21: 76.69.116.46; and now early on December 23 with 174.91.131.143). If there's anything you can do to slow this vandal down, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 03:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I protected for now. I'll look into it more tomorrow. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, Mark. Oddly, 174.91.131.143 made another problematic edit of [[Glee (season 5)]] this morning, but that edit was adjusted by IP 69.77.173.156 a couple of hours later. Both were Care Bears–related, so I have to assume they're both by the same editor. Might you be able to block both addresses? [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 14:26, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Mark, I've just been reverted by that new IP, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.77.173.156 69.77.173.156], on [[Glee (season 5)]]. Unfortunately, I have three edits that could be called reversions already today (two from this vandal, and one from someone who broke the episode table), so I'm basically out of commission there; I'll have to leave this in your hands, Care Bear misinformation and all. Thanks for anything you can do. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 18:30, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, I think that's enough about Care Bears for now, I've blocked a couple IPs, let me know if more pop up doing the same thing. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Many thanks. I'll let you know if more IPs appear. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 19:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ==<br />
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[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) is wishing you a [[Mary Poppins|Merry]] [[Christmas]]! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> <br />
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:Thanks, Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Need Help ==<br />
This user: The Red Pen of Doom is reverting my edits unnecessarily and writing his own information using my identified sources.He being a wikipedia editor has the right to alter any wrong information but he is deleting the entire text added by me to the page [[Ajaz Khan]] and writing his own text on the page. When there was no content available on this page then this user didn't make any efforts in adding information in this article but when i added verifiable information then he deleted the entire content added by me and used my sources to add his new content. I request you to please look into this matter. If i did any mistake i will accept it with no argument.Thank you.--[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) 09:15, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, first things first, have you tried discussing the matter on the article's talk page (or the user's talk page)? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Ok.. I'll try to talk to him and sort it out through his talk page.Thanks.--[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) 09:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Styrofoam King ==<br />
Thank you for your action on this editor. I should point out though that this is the same user as [[Прискорбные]], who has previously been banned for sock puppetry having made numerous vandalism upon the [[Phil Collins]] page.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 19:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, let me know if you see him pop up again. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:43, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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the user was also previously vandalizing and blocked under the name [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_Somerville], so he's guaranteed to come back.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 20:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Collins&curid=153557&diff=587421444&oldid=587287976 this] (the text you dispute) is not truly [[WP:Vandalism]]; see how Wikipedia defines vandalism. From what I see, that text you removed is simply a summary of what is lower in the article (a very short summary of Collins being controversial, in addition to the note about his success) and is therefore [[WP:Lead]]-compliant. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 21:45, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], since it is a sock that is trying to push it, it most definitely is not compliant with policies and guidelines. [[User:Nymf|Nymf]] ([[User talk:Nymf|talk]]) 21:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes, anyone is free to revert edits that are made in evasion of a block. Whether a particular edit ''should'' be reverted is a judgment call--we don't have to revert a particular edit just because a banned user made it. Note that this is apparently [[User:The abominable Wiki troll]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Nymf, it still is not vandalism, and that is my point on this matter. It is WP:Lead-compliant, though is perhaps not needed...since the information immediately before that states that Collins has attracted significant criticism (and directs readers to the Criticism section). What is not compliant with Wikipedia on this matter is that it is a [[WP:Sockpuppet]] adding it. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:05, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], I'll agree to disagree on that. The user obviously does not like [[Phil Collins]] and is [[Wikipedia:VANDALISM#Gaming_the_system|gaming the system]] to get his opinion across. [[User:Nymf|Nymf]] ([[User talk:Nymf|talk]]) 22:17, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The difference is that I was/am solely focusing on the text (except for mentioning the editor in my second comment in this section and now); you were/are mostly focusing on the editor. The text is not vandalism, but, yes, we'll agree to disagree on this one. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:21, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], thanks for your comment. I removed it because it was submitted by a troll who has taken on several user names and previously and repeatedly submitted into the lead that Collins was "The Antichrist" and "The most hated man in rock", which was judged by other users to be opinionated and inappropriate for the lead. While I consider criticism of Collins to be very significant, this guy has an agenda.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 22:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I understand. Your rationale on this matter makes good sense. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:28, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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You might want to take a look at IP 92.30.211.5 as well as that IP has made similar death threats and are probably the same person.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 23:32, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I can not prove anything ofcourse, but I would have looked once more at any connection between user TreasuryTag and the IPs. Why did this IP contact that user a (problem user) who has not been active since August. Just a suggestion to check that out.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 23:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Wow, there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I'll have to get up to speed on this. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No worries. But I am now confident that TreasuryTag has a connection to the IPs which is a clear violation of the guidelines concerninh him for the 41st time. Anyway, take a look. Merry Christmas.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 07:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey thanks, and what did he say? ==<br />
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Thanks for cleaning up the Young Turks stuff, and I assume he's made more threats at me. Curious what he said? [[User:Greg Salter|Greg Salter]] ([[User talk:Greg Salter|talk]]) 23:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Something about the transmission of HIV through incest. He was posting that on all the Young Turks articles for a while. Not sure what Cenak ever did to him, but, oh well. This reminds me, want me to semi-protect your userpage since he keeps comeing back? I should extend the offer to [[User:Jarkeld]] as well. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Aleah Chapin ==<br />
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Hi, not sure this is the place to reply to your email.<br />
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I am the sponsor of the commission you indicated you needed a source for. What further sourcing do you need, besides my saying I have paid for the commission?<br />
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David / Jennysup<br />
:Well, do you have a link to a website or newspaper that confirms the information? Per our [[WP:V|verifiability policy]] we need to see evidence that confirms that facts. Unfortunately we can't just take your word for it. Sorry! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:52, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inland taipan ==<br />
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The problem, Mark, is that the IP user we are dealing with is not well versed about the subject he's editing. In my opinion, we are dealing with nothing more than a younger individual who has a fixed imaginary/fantasy vision of what the Inland taipan ''should'' be (sort of the way I used to think of tigers when I was a child), rather than focus on what it ''is'' by being unbiased and objective. His poor writing and his poor reading comprehension arose suspicion in me about plagiarism. This lead me to make use of duplicate detector and he is in violation of [[WP:CV]]. Numerous other Wikipedia policies and guidelines have been violated by this IP user over and over again. Warnings didn't stop him. When we try to edit to fix some of these problems he quickly reverts them. He is not willing to comply with anything nor is he willing to work with me (or the other editors who have seemingly given up) in improving the article. He is an obsessed fanatic. I and some of the other editors have degrees on the very subject matter - but he refuses to allow us to edit. In my opinion, he simply needs to be given an indefinite block. I believe it is necessary to save this article and to save a lot of editors from problems. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, ''mea culpa'' I've changed it from full protection to semi-protection and extended the duration. An indefinite block isn't really an option here. We try not to indefinitely block IPs, and in this case he seems to be jumping around from IP to IP, which would greatly hinder the effectiveness of any blocks. I think semi-protection is the best bet at this point for that reason. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thank you. This is for the best. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 04:24, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Catherine Gross deletion ==<br />
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The documentation of what is essentially a secret society is difficult at best, but I am working on updating the page and references as much as possible. I direct you to the pages of Gloria Brame and Viola Johnson as well as the Kink Aware Professionals page where you will see her name. Links were also removed from SouthEast LeatherFest of which Ms. Gross is the Producer.<br />
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A comment was posted about the awards she received being "minor" but the person who commented says they do not know the origin of the awards. Awards Ms. Gross has received are nationally recognized awards in the leather community, and in no way are considered minor at all. If you look at the Leather Journal link, you will see Ms. Gross listed as an award recipient. This is a well respected publication both nationally and internationally in the leather community. Here is a link for your quick reference: http://www.theleatherjournal.com/pantheon/61-list-of-pantheon-of-leather-awards-all-time-recipients<br />
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You can see Ms. Gross listed on the Leather Archives & Museum site as a Board member http://www.leatherarchives.org/contact/contact.htm Additionally, a book edited by Peter Tupper to be published in 2015 discussing the "firsts" in the leather community specifically names Ms. Gross http://petertupper.com/2013/02/23/editing-the-history-of-consensual-master-slave-relationships/.<br />
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I would also like to refer you to the folllwing page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Southeast_Leatherfest_(2nd_nomination)where you will see comments pertaining to the difficulty in finding sources due to the privacy and secrecy of the community. While some aspects of the community are beginning to open, it is still a huge challenge to find the supporting documentation.<br />
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I do understand the need for proper citations as much as possible, and again, I'm working on that to the best of my ability. I appreciate your assistance in this matter. If it is not possible to restore the page, I respectfully request a copy of the page. Thank you.<br />
[[User:Mike Shore|Mike Shore]] ([[User talk:Mike Shore|talk]]) 02:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, really what we need to have an article on her is "significant coverage in reliable sources", see [[WP:GNG]]. The deletion of the article isn't meant as an insult to her or her accomplishments, but we have very particular rules about independent sourcing in biographies. Also, articles need to be written neutrally, we can't accept articles that seem like they're promoting an person, see [[WP:NPOV]]. If you'd like to have the article restored, the first step is to create a neutrally written, well sourced draft about her. See [[WP:DRAFT]] for details. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:02, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*Mark- thank you so much for your response. Is it possible for you to send me a copy of the page so that I might use that as a reference and work on getting it up to appropriate standards? My email is mikeshore212@yahoo.com Thank you. [[User:Mike Shore|Mike Shore]] ([[User talk:Mike Shore|talk]]) 20:18, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Sure, will do. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RfPP Tips ==<br />
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A few things to know. Cyberbot no longer follows redirects. Also placing {{tlx|rfpp|n}} sets a 24 hour timeout on the request. That means you don't need to slap another tag on there to have the bot archive it. Merry Christmas.—[[User:C678|<span style="color:green;font-family:Neuropol">cyber<span style="color:red">power]] <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline</sub>[[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas]] 03:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, that's good to hear. For some reason a lot of redirects need protecting... sigh. Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:56, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== SafeMinds reinstatement ==<br />
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Where do things stand on SafeMinds as a Wiki page? As indicated, I am new to all of this and must admit, I am not Wiki savvy. So, there is a learning deficit here that must be acknowledged, thanks.<br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 05:56, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I replied below. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[WP:Edit warring]] going on at [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)]] ==<br />
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Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_for_page_protection#Wikipedia:Notability_.28people.29_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 this], I was just about to ask you if perhaps that page should be full-protected. Then I went to [[WP:Request for page protection]] and thought that perhaps it's already listed there. I have not had the Wikipedia:Notability (people) page on my [[WP:Watchlist]] for long (about a week now), and I might not have it on there for much longer. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 06:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I would have protected it a while ago, but since I close some Afds on the subject I was worried that it could create the perception of bias if I protect the "wrong version" of the notability guideline. It sure looks bad to have admins and other veteran contributors edit warring like that on an official guideline so I broke down and protected it. I guess I don't personally have an opinion on the disputed content to be honest, but I guess I'll just skip over the Afds that hinge on the disputed passage of the guideline in the future. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 07:22, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yep, I understood the rationale you gave at WP:Request for page protection, and thanks for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Notability_%28people%29&curid=286178&diff=587485601&oldid=587485567 going ahead and protecting that page.] As for the edit war that was going on there, you and [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Notability_%28people%29&curid=7318428&diff=587481645&oldid=587478083 summed it up well.] I wonder if BusterD watches your talk page and if my initial post here about this matter led him to comment there about it. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 07:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, I think it needs an uninvolved admin to step in and say "Consensus is X--discussion over". That whole talk page is a mess at this point. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 07:46, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::(edit conflict) I do watch Mark's talk page. I've been watching this situation with growing dismay for several days, and the discussion for much longer. I'll avoid taking a side, but the warring actions taken by some on both sides do not shower any in the discussion with glory. I was writing an RFC to appear under my comment. The issue needs a broader set of eyes. BTW, is there a WP:BURDEN related to policy and guideline changes? It seems to me that the party making the change needs defend the change, not those restoring the original guideline. Am I incorrect? [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 07:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::: Normally that would be the case, but in a case like here, where the alternative is not so much between two different proposed versions of a rule but basically just between the validity of a rule and its mere absence, the only logically tenable principle is the other way round: there has to be a demonstrable continuing consensus ''for'' a rule in order for it to be valid, so a demonstrable state of "no consensus" must lead to its removal rather than its preservation. This is simply because guidelines are meant to be descriptive, not prescriptive, and a valid guideline is, by definition, that which has consensus. Therefore, demonstrable lack of consensus in (including a persistent pattern of the rule being overridden in practice) logically entails that the guideline is invalid and has to be struck. There is also a practical reason for this: demanding active consensus for removal (rather than active consensus for its retention) would make it far too easy for small bands of determined filibusterers to keep a rule in place forever – which is precisely what has been happening here for years. That's the reason for the exasperation that has led to this recent bout of warring. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 08:32, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Thanks for the comment. I better understand your point now. I've been noticing the exasperation for quite some time. I've taken the liberty of creating a request for comment. Does anybody see something in my request or my comment afterwards which needs changing? [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 08:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::: Thanks. Maybe you could consider shortening the intro to the RfC a bit; right now it doesn't seem to make it quite clear what its intended scope is (as you are asking some more questions in the intro text than the one you put at the top). Please also note that several people have already been providing endorsement !votes to pretty much exactly the same question in the discussion above. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 09:04, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Ok, I think this will be a good way to solve the issue. Being able to point to the results of a formal Rfc closed in your favor always goes a long way to silence opposition. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:04, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection ==<br />
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Hello Sir I Request you to Please Semi-protect my user Page<br />
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== Need support and advice for BLP == <br />
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Hi Mark, I've been updating one of the pages you deleted recently (Sayo Kosugi) and need your help to make it right. PROD was based on unsourced BLP, so I added some relevant references in the article, which I thought solved the issue, but probably it wasn't enough to validate. Could you help me understand better not to make a same mistake and make it right? Thanks! Aki 05:47, 24 December 2013 (JST) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Makwn|Makwn]] ([[User talk:Makwn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Makwn|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:The issue was that we need independent sources that discuss the individual, see [[WP:IRS]] (think newspapers, books, magazines, etc.). If you can find such sources, you are free to recreate the article as long as you [[WP:Cite|cite them in the article]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:24, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Mark! I put 5 direct sources with citation discussing the article and put them in the reference list but was deleted and want to know the reasons. One was from the symphony orchestra, another was from Juilliard school but do you think those aren't independent enough to be cited? Thanks! Aki 10:50, 28 December 2013 (JST) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/204.57.75.30|204.57.75.30]] ([[User talk:204.57.75.30|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== SafeMinds reinstatement ==<br />
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Mr. Arsten --<br />
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I have looked back into the archives and found your response on Autism File as a reputable media outlet. Can you elaborate on what is needed to gain reinstatement if this is not acceptable and the mentions in mainstream media are unacceptable? <br />
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Here's some additional input:<br />
SafeMinds members have testified before Congress and Congress recognizes SafeMinds as a legitimate organization. Would that transcript <ref>http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Blaxill-Testimony-Bio-TnT.pdf</ref> suffice? <br />
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Our members continue to participate as representatives <ref>http://iacc.hhs.gov/about/member-bios.shtml#public-members</ref> of the affected families on government committees as a representative for SafeMinds. Is that acceptable? <br />
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I don't follow why this continues to fail to meet your thresholds of recognition as a legitimate organization... including the annual ongoing IRS 990 filings on income/expenditure and recognition by the IRS that we are a 501(c)(3) organization formed in the state of Illinois and the numerous links that come up when researching the organization through Wiki's own websearch tools. <br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 14:59, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Also, please elaborate on why Autism Files is not considered a reliable source? I don't see where this news outlet fails to meet wiki RS criteria.<br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 15:07, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't believe that Autism File is a reliable source, as it appears to promote [[WP:FRINGE]] content. The Daily Mail isn't a very good source, but my appraisal was based on [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1023351/The-great-autism-rip---How-huge-industry-feeds-parents-desperate-cure-children.html this article]. Unfortunately, testifying before Congress and participating as representatives does not necessarily demonstrate notability. It doesn't appear to me that there is enough coverage of your group to merit its own article, but if you disagree you are free to appeal the deletion at [[WP:DRV]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:28, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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The mention in a questionable outlet (your own words) from 2008 seems rather thin for justifying [[WP:FRINGE]] - if the passing mention of a questionable outlet placing advertising and receiving promotion from years past forever condemns a periodical to this status, then most all publications and organizations would be suspect... <br />
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As far as [[WP:DRV]], I find your responses to what has been provided for creating substantive evidence on SafeMinds existence as a credible organization as indicative of uncertainty on the deletion. Thanks for your indications on the means to move forward for reinstatement. <br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 22:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Date vandal ==<br />
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Hi Mark, may I trouble you to take at IP editor [[Special:Contributions/68.0.216.233|68.0.216.233]]. If I report the user to AIV now, it'll just get ignored for insufficient warnings, but this IP is clearly on a date-faking campaign. In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Even_Stevens_Movie&diff=587527637&oldid=566119631 these 2 edits] the user introduces deliberate factual error at The Even Stevens Movie. The film was released on June 13, 2003, but the user changed that to June 11, 2004, and also massively changed other dates. User also vandalized dates [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seven_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587533437 here at Seven (film)] where they changed the release date from September 22, 1995 ([http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/seven/ source]) to June 7, 1996. Looking through some of their other edits, I noticed massive date changes [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Malcolm_in_the_Middle_episodes&diff=587532131&oldid=587000671 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Negotiator&diff=prev&oldid=587538128 here]. There is also a piece of subtle vandalism [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bridgette_Wilson&diff=prev&oldid=587164204 here] where the user moved Mortal Kombat down in the list and changed the release year from 1995 to 1996. Anyhow, the user is obviously here to vandalize. Thanks for your help, [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:27, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the detailed explanation, I think there's enough to justify a block if he keeps it up. He hasn't edited since your warning, so I'll hold off on blocking for now and check back later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Cool, thanks. As I revert I'm noticing a lot of 1995 dates being changed to 1996. Bot? [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:31, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Hmm, not sure, perhaps. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Maybe not. He misspelled October two different ways in one edit. What a hollow existence--finding new tedious ways to insert false information into Wikipedia articles? Geez. Here are the edits that I double-checked for accuracy at RottenTomatoes (some are dupes of above). [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Even_Stevens_Movie&diff=prev&oldid=587540309][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lara_Croft:_Tomb_Raider&diff=prev&oldid=587542727][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mortal_Kombat_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587542792][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_of_Time_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587542846][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=7_(disambiguation)&diff=prev&oldid=587542897][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seven_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587543389][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bridgette_Wilson&diff=prev&oldid=587543777][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Klaus_Badelt&diff=prev&oldid=587543984] [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:45, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your alter ego ==<br />
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hafspajen&diff=587578447&oldid=587578411 Your alter ego] left a message on my talk page. I think somebody is trying to make fun of you. (Bad taste). [[User:Hafspajen|Hafspajen]] ([[User talk:Hafspajen|talk]]) 00:11, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sounds like someone had too much Eggnog! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes. {{smiley}} [[User:Hafspajen|Hafspajen]] ([[User talk:Hafspajen|talk]]) 16:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Happy Holidays to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Please Give Me Another Chance, Help me and Let me re.edit my page ==<br />
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Hello Mark Arsten, I am Mark Ludwig Labastida, I am a high school physics teacher at Tagum National Trade School for 2 years. Ever since I knew about wiki, I have been starting to depend on it, researching for almost every projects and assignment I had way back when I was a student.<br />
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Last December 23, 2013 I started to make/ write my first wiki page entitled The Big Five Pageants Ranks (I guess other wiki user/editor renamed it into The Five major beauty pageant) and it is a better name than mine indeed.<br />
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Just now I noticed that my page was temporarily protected, I have mixed emotions actually, I was a little sad because my page is subject for deletion. I am also very MUCH happy and shocked because I just can't believe that the admin: Mark Arsten was the one who keep my page protected.<br />
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Thank you for giving my page some time to be checked by you sir. If you could give me a chance to improve my article it would be my honor to do so. It would also be a great to receive some advice from you on how can I make my page more effective. :) I would love to be one of the wiki editors/user. To help the wiki community.<br />
:You'll be [[WP:AUTOCONFIRMED|autoconfirmed]] in a day or so, which will allow you to edit the page then. Please take care to abide by our policies on [[WP:COPYVIO|copyright violations]] though when you do. Let me know if you have any more questions. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== inre [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Truth About Lies (film)]] ==<br />
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The original version of the article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Truth_About_Lies_%28film%29&diff=587449996&oldid=431036856 from 2011] was based upon on old and inaccurate source. Further research shows the project began filming December 2013 and is now in post-production. I made corrections/expansions to the article to address the original author's errors and have added a different set of "''Find sources''" at the AFD. I think the now-better-sourced and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Truth_About_Lies_%28film%29&ent now slightly improved article]. What you think? '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 02:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, I'll try to check it out later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas==<br />
Merry Christmas Mark, glad to see I'm not the only one crazy enough to be patrolling too early on Christmas Day! <font face="chiller"><font color="red"><b>[[User:Jimfbleak|Jimfbleak]] - </b></font></font><font face="arial"><font color="green">[[User talk:Jimfbleak| talk to me?]]</font></font> 06:58, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:07, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Glee'' IP back, now messing with my user page ==<br />
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Mark, the IP that you blocked for vandalizing "[[A Katy or a Gaga]]" and [[Glee (season 5)]] is back as 173.206.72.5, and added this fake [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BlueMoonset&diff=prev&oldid=587694439 DYK credit] for "A Katy or a Gaga", including the usual Care Bears association, to my user page. Needless to say, I'm about to revert it. Blocking the new IP address would be welcome. Many thanks. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 03:47, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Huh, very odd. Well, I've blocked that IP, but something tells me we haven't seen the last of him... [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. Well, his favorite target pages are unavailable, so it's not hugely surprising that someone that persistent is finding other outlets. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 05:49, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Hounding? HA! see [[WP:AGF]] ==<br />
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how dare u accuse me of having ANYTHANG to do with Ryulong?! Sir, my name is Ron I went to University of Miami and love anime shit. I dont want to talk to u anymore. Read the rules. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 20:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:[[WP:AGF]] is a great policy, but sometimes coincidences just become too much. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:20, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::just what r u trying to say? Spit it out Mary, I mean!, Mark... [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 20:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::What I mean is if you continue to create the appearance that you're here to bother Ryulong you'll be blocked. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:39, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Bangerter Machine Gun page Removal? ==<br />
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Can you please advise me of the information that brought you to the decision to remove the page regarding the Bangerter Machine Gun? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.37.107.41|68.37.107.41]] ([[User talk:68.37.107.41|talk]]) 20:53, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:You can see the reasons for the deletion here: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bangerter machine gun]]. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:59, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Yes I just found that page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.37.107.41|68.37.107.41]] ([[User talk:68.37.107.41|talk]]) 21:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== [[User:Mwara thuku]] ==<br />
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He's back, making edits using [[User:66.37.51.4]] as well. What's problematic is that people are reverting his edits, and trying to leave him messages on his talk page, and he just keeps inserting this nonsense. Would you mind taking a look? --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 22:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Alright, I've blocked per [[WP:CIR]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 22:17, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:ErikHaugen]] ==<br />
Mark - I could use some help. This user has deleted an entire page I added by citing "unambiguous copyright violation"; when I requested proof he deleted the page. This is not the first of my recent edit this user is trolling and I am gravely displeased. Please take a look at my talk page for his comments. I sent him message and received no reply at the time of this writing. I would like the "Kahal Kadosh" page returned in entirety. Jaim Harlow [jimharlow99] 22:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:What is the exact title of the page you'd like me to look at? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:: Erik Haugen deleted the following page: <br />
:::(Deletion log); 18:59 . . ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) deleted page [[Kahal Kadosh Beth Shalome]] (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement)<br />
:: I am requesting that it be restored. There was no copyright infringement - he made it up out of thin air and didn't possess the stones to exchange discussion. He fabricated "copyright infringement" claim where there was none. Here is my talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimharlow99 Jaim Harlow 02:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I've replied at [[User_talk:Jimharlow99]]. [[User:ErikHaugen|ErikHaugen]] <small>([[User talk:ErikHaugen|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/ErikHaugen|contribs]])</small> 06:04, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Ketchup ==<br />
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You have reverted a section about the HP works in Birmingham which seems to have been added quite inappropriately, possibly to disguise the insult to yourself which is buried within it. [[User:Chemical Engineer|Chemical Engineer]] ([[User talk:Chemical Engineer|talk]]) 22:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Ditto your reversion of removal of inappropriate material to [[Koala]] - you have inadvertently blocked the wrong user (who correctly removed the material), instead of the person who put it there (including more buried insults). Cheers, [[User:Bahudhara|Bahudhara]] ([[User talk:Bahudhara|talk]]) 23:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oops, my mistake - I've just looked into it a bit further - it now appears that both users are socks - "(the first sock) inserted false info and used a malicious sock to revert the addition, hoping someone would add it back. These new socks operate on the same MO" - and this is what happened in this case too. Cheers, [[User:Bahudhara|Bahudhara]] ([[User talk:Bahudhara|talk]]) 23:54, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, there are some very silly socks running around :) [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:57, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
*Thanks guys, I was actually tricked here. The user adding the vandalism as well as the user removing the vandalism were being controlled by the same banned user, who tries to trick people that way. So they're both (rightfully) blocked at this point and the text is gone from the article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:56, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Copyvios by Thundrplaya ==<br />
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I noticed that you blocked Thundrplaya this summer for copyright violations. Well, I found another one at [[Nebraska Cornhuskers men's basketball]]. Which likely means there may be more. I know this user hasn't edited since November, but it may be a good idea to check his edits for copyright problems. [[User:HangingCurve|HangingCurve]]<sup>[[User talk:HangingCurve|Swing for the fence]]</sup> 23:41, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, thanks for the note. I'll try to look into that later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== AfD closure ==<br />
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Mark, would you mind taking a look at this AfD [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/On_Combat:_The_Psychology_and_Physiology_of_Deadly_Conflict_in_War_and_in_Peace]? It's been relisted twice, last time was 10 days ago. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 00:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, that's a complicated one. I've looked at it a few times, but it's a hard call to make since it's so close. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::*I know I'm biased because of my vote, but it looks like a no consensus to me. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 17:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A Simple Plan (film) ==<br />
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Thank you for protecting ''[[A Simple Plan (film)|A Simple Plan]]''. But, can you please revert the most recent addition of original research and analysis? Thanks! ---<font face="Georgia">'''[[User:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#009900">The Old Jacobite</span>]]'''</font><font face="Courier New"><sub>''[[User talk:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#006600">The '45</span>]]''</sub></font> 00:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I generally don't revert to a specific version after protecting a page. I suggest you make an edit request on the talk page and ask for a revert there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/The Party Posse Band/Archive]] ==<br />
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Mark, I'm confused by what happened here. I understand that of the three accounts, The Party Posse Band was the oldest and should be the master, as opposed to Be Sharps (band), but there are two problems with the way it's configured now. First, we've "lost" the third account, [[User:Posse band]]. Second, the tagging is wrong. The master is not tagged, but Be Sharps is tagged as the master (because I didn't know there was an earlier one). Is there a way to fix all this, or am I missing something? the tagging, of course, is easy to fix, but I'm going to wait until I hear back from you. Thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sorry for the mixup. I've changed the tags on The Party Posse Band and the Be Sharps (band) and added Posse band to the SPI. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:39, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, is there a way to get back my comments? In other words, the archive should show two reports instead of only one. My comments were somewhat important because the users were not advertising real things but creating hoaxes. If it's too difficult, I'll live. :-) --[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:57, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, I see what the issue was, I forgot to merge one section. I've done so now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Perfect!--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | At Wikipedia we sometimes call our admins mop-wielders. You sir, are the most moppy of wielders or the most wieldy of moppers (your choice). Thank you for your dedication in cleaning up tasks that others don't make the time for. Your behind-the-scenes cleaning makes this encyclopedia run smoothy -- [[User:ТимофейЛееСуда|'''Тимофей''']][[User_talk:ТимофейЛееСуда|'''<font color="#00f00ff">ЛееСуда</font>''']]. 02:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the note, I really appreciate it. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Hi==<br />
Could you take a look at the edits of IP 24.209.194.7 he is adding information that is obviously not appreciated as his edits are often reverted but the user seems unwilling to change even after being told several times. Regards,--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 16:11, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I left another message for him, we'll see how he responds and then work from there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Good.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 16:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry to bother you again, but there is a IP who has made a threat against another user and also is making unconstructive edits. IP 118.165.20.203 . Regards,--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 17:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I think I got him. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Hello Mark==<br />
Hello Mark. <br />
I updated my husbands information ( Peter Cartwright. Actor) you left me a message saying " You have removed it" <br />
I fail to understand why? I simply added that he had married and then passed away. Can you please explain why this is not acceptable ?<br />
You can contact me<br />
Regards<br />
Peggy Cartwright ( Peters Wife) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 17:47, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi, sorry for the misunderstanding. There were a couple problems with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Cartwright_(actor)&diff=prev&oldid=587828637 this edit]. When you add a claim to a Wikipedia article, you need to include a source with your edit that we can verify. This prevents pranksters from adding claims of death to articles about living people, something we've had many problems with in the past. Also, while I am very sorry for your loss, we don't use language like "is sadly missed" in article. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:09, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hello Mark. Thank you for your reply. What should I do now? Add the info again? Or will you add it?<br />
Peggy Cartwright <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 00:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:We can add the information back in, but we'd need to see an obituary or an article first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Sandra Griffin Management Ltd<br />
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A selection of our clients current and recent engagements.<br />
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It is with regret that we announce, that PETER CARTWRIGHT passed away on Monday 21st November. Ever the gentleman, and ever the professional, he will be sadly missed. If you would like to call his Agent Sandra Griffin Management Ltd , Twickenham or look on her website you will see death of <br />
Peter .. Which she has made a mistake he past on the evening of Monday 18th November 2013 ..Peggy Cartwright <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 13:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:That would probably work, just make sure you link to the official website when you add that to the article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks Mark==<br />
Mark I do appreciate your offer of contacting you re the article on Caledonia. I'm working on my PhD at the moment on Wyntoun's Chronicle and have four Masters Degrees. I was struck by the use of the phrase 'in what is now Scotland'. It is perfectly acceptable to use it. It is equally acceptable simply to refer to 'Scotland' as it is not necessary to correct every potential anachronism. Ionesco key factor in this is the question of consistency across articles and within them. So, Ireland which in this article and on others is not! until I altered it referred in terms like 'what is now Ireland'. Of course, like Scotland and England it was also during the 'Caledonian' period ruled by petty or sub kings and had not attained to political unity and was not then known as Ireland either linguistically or politically. That is why I have made this particular alteration. It is certainly not vandalism and is not incorrect. You will find few, very few countries to which Wikipedia editors are applying the same rules to as to references to Scotland... This is pretty obviously unacceptable. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.22.50.94|82.22.50.94]] ([[User talk:82.22.50.94|talk]]) 00:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but I saw you write [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caledonia&diff=prev&oldid=587997323 "Roman military incursions into central and northern Scotland,we're fleeting."] and assumed you were vandalizing. Feel free to continue to edit the page. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:59, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Candidate for deletion==<br />
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Hello Mark, the page I created is candidate for deletion. Last December 24, you had it protected. I did some revisions and edits on the page I also cited sources and links to make it more reliable and more informative. I hope you could check the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_major_beauty_pageants and you could give me some advice on how to make it better. The page will I think be deleted on December 31 if not properly edited. Please help. Thank you. [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 02:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:To have the article kept, you'll have to present major media outlets who use the term "Five major beauty pageants" and discuss the subject in detail. It might be a better idea though to edit related topics rather than just this one article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Is it possible if I will edit also other pages by mentioning this page: [[Five major beauty pageants]] on theirs?[[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 03:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:That's ok, but ''only'' if you have a published reference that connects the other pages to that subject. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok I will. Thank you :)[[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 03:40, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Mark, I already edited these pages:<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_World<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_International<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Earth and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Supranational.<br />
Thank you Mark.. [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 04:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*I've removed the most recent edits to each of these pages, as they only attempted to confirm the unsupported and unsourced claim of '5 major pageants.' As I've suggested elsewhere, this appears to be part of a persistent attempt to promote a recently established contest by conferring it 'major' status on Wikipedia. It's something akin to spamming, is disruptive, and given the discussions at multiple pages and canvassing at numerous others, suggests a willful ignorance of guidelines. Thanks, [[User:JNW|JNW]] ([[User talk:JNW|talk]]) 08:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I understand if ever you will delete the page. I fully understand that we are just trying to keep the Wikipedia's reputation and its good standing in the web for online research. I still wish and hope that someday I can be part of your team. My apology for my desire (maybe undesirable) to keep the page. Thank you for the experience of editing I have learned a lot. Thank you also for the people/editors /contributors I came to talk with. It was really a great experience. Sir, if you have time please feel free to know me more. I am 27 years old physics high school teacher from Philippines. Here's my facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/Markimatics :) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 12:15, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Deleted image was removed from article by vandal ==<br />
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You recently deleted the image [[:File:Southern Methodist University Seal.gif|File:Southern Methodist University Seal.gif]] because it was an orphaned non-free file unused in an article for more than one week. I took a look at the article history for [[Southern Methodist University]], and the image was removed by a couple IP editors as part of a series of vandal edits that were only partially reverted. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southern_Methodist_University&diff=585236874&oldid=583116816 Here's the beginning and ending of those edits]. Can you restore the deleted image so it can be relinked to the article? Thanks. [[User:Mabeenot|–Mabeenot]] ([[User talk:Mabeenot|talk]]) 03:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sorry for the mixup, it's been undeleted now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:37, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Polimoda revision ==<br />
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Sir, someone manipulated the "polimoda" page and added "It is not listed by the Italian ministry of education, the Ministero dell'Istruzione, dell'Università e della Ricerca, among the institutions authorised to award degrees in music, dance and the arts.[4]" which is not true.<br />
Polimoda is accredited and recognised by the region of tuscany and the comune di firenze e prato.<br />
Please kindly make a research and make the page look appropriate for this famous prestigious fashion school.<br />
http://www.polimoda.com/en/about-us.html <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.46.156.76|41.46.156.76]] ([[User talk:41.46.156.76|talk]]) 05:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:You should bring this up on the articles talk page and try to start a discussion there. Let me know how it turns out, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== What're ya tryin to do? ==<br />
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I remember u btw. That kid is not listening to reason, [[Talk:List of Dragon Ball characters#Manga spellings?!]] is about the recient changes to the page. U should be on my side, yet ur in favour of permablocking me?! Watever Im watching the threads. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I didn't say I'm in favor of blocking you, no. Nor do I have an opinion on the content dispute. You seem like you're looking for conflict though, which raises red flags coming from a new user. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::What?! All I EVER wanted was the best for wiki, and am met with constant opposition. Look, check the links and know that Im telling the truth. Xfansz or watever his or her name is lying about "Viz names" cause theyre REDIRECTS! Check it out dude. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Constantly being met with opposition may be a sign that you should change your approach, no? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:50, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Im afraid not. At least Huron is on my side. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Please Protect My Page ==<br />
HelloMark, I would like to ask your help to have this page be protected. I am planning to finish this page before the year ends. Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_Named_After_Jose_Rizal. Thank you so much :) [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 06:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but we generally only protect pages if there are problems with vandalism, copyright violations, or other issues. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== editors ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
no doubt you will simply ignore this and then block my account, but can you please explain why you won't let blocked editors create a new account? If they continue to create trouble then yes fair enough you should block them, but it seems no one even bothers to find out why people do the things that they are doing, most of the time they do believe they are right even if they're not it might be a matter of opinion. Just ignoring it and telling them they are a vandal then blocking them without even listening to them is totally wrong. So I beg you, let me prove to you that a second chance is worth while just for a week then if you really feel it's not then block me and I promise I won't ever come back. But if you do, do that it will just show what sort of peeople are in charge of this site are really like. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Aaacafe|Aaacafe]] ([[User talk:Aaacafe|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aaacafe|contribs]]) 11:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Think of it this way: if someone is arrested for drunken driving and has his license suspended, if he responds by using a counterfeit license and continuing to drive during his suspension he'll get in more trouble if he's caught. Now, sockpuppetry is harmless compared to drunken driving and wiki-admins are not police, but I think the analogy basically works. If you go the duration of your block without evading it, you can be welcomed back as an editor in good standing when it ends or when you qualify for the [[WP:Standard offer|standard offer]]... that way you won't have to worry about getting more blocks from admins like me. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== More 089baby socks ==<br />
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Could you please block the newest sockpuppet: {{user|Overhadkick}}? There aren't many edits to go on, but three of them are essentially identical to one made by previous socks. Thanks in advance. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 16:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, obvious enough that I could just block him. I should protect some of those pages when I get a chance. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== No need to worry. ==<br />
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Hi, I recently reverted all the remaining edits by sockpuppets of Pumpie that were marked "current" to relive most of your workload. I was going to upload a brand new map of the Athens Metro (which has citations of course) but it's these users that delay genuine contributions like mine. Anyway, there are two remaining SPI cases for the said user. --'''[[User:Marianian|Marianian]]'''<sup>([[User_talk:Marianian|talk]])</sup> 18:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I'll try to look into it later today. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Cheema ==<br />
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[[Cheema]] has been a problem since [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cheema&diff=585763151&oldid=585758141 this edit] on 12 December. Until then, it had been stable for a good while. I've raised the issue on the talk page on a couple of occasions but feel like I'm hitting my head against a brick wall. Some might call it a slow edit war but I'm in a good mood at the moment and would rather not put someone who is apparently new-ish at the mercy of [[WP:AN3]] where a block would seem the likely outcome. [[WP:3O]] is an option, I guess, but I wonder if you could take a quick look at it. No worries if you are not so inclined or do not have the time. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 22:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, a trip to [[WP:AN3]] seems unavoidable at this point. Sorry that I can't come up with much more to say. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::OK. Thanks for taking a look at it. I'm getting fed up of having to make repeated visits to SPI, AN3 and RFPP and worry that I'm gaining a bad reputation for biting or cabal-like behaviour etc. But if needs must then the integrity of the project trumps all, I guess. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 01:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Major copyright violations made by IP user ([[Inland taipan]]) ==<br />
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* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fbillabongsanctuary.com.au%2Fnative-animals%2Freptiles%2Finland-taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Feprints.jcu.edu.au%2F11938%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20090613092123%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.qm.qld.gov.au%2Ffeatures%2Fsnakes%2Ftaipan%2Frediscovery.asp&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Faustralianmuseum.net.au%2FInland-Taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicator detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Faustralianmuseum.net.au%2FInland-Taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector] <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DendroNaja|contribs]]) 03:22, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Ok, thanks for the note, if it's not too much trouble, could you point out which revision they were first added in and which revision they were removed in? I'll revdelete the intervening edits. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:It's going to be difficult, I mean that was just after a very brief search, god knows how many copyright violations there are. The article, from my point of view as someone specialized in the field, is in shambles and the user should not be allowed to edit it ever. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 03:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, agreed. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Heads Up ==<br />
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May be a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kellogg_Company&diff=prev&oldid=588187306 sock] to add to a list?[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:02, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks and question==<br />
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Dear Sir, <br />
<br />
I am French student and I published the Wikipedia page of Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, peinter, and you accepted it in november, I thank you for that. <br />
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Moreover, I would like to know what means the designation "Orphan page" and if I can doing something to change this statute. I read the Wikipedia explanation but I don't understand what it means precisely. <br />
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To finish, I thank you very much for your open mindedness and your interest for culture. <br />
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Thanking for your availability, I address you my wishes.<br />
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--[[User:Drapé|Drapé]] ([[User talk:Drapé|talk]]) 14:48, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Dear Sir,<br />
<br />
One year ago, an administrator of Wikipedia removed the orphean banner of the "Arnaud Courlet de Vregille" page and I just would like to know why it came back again some days ago.<br />
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Thanking for your availability,<br />
<br />
--[[User:Drapé|Drapé]] ([[User talk:Drapé|talk]]) 13:32, 5 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ritratto_di_Dama_-_Anna_Sforza.pdf ==<br />
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Who gave you the permission to delete this file? This file contains original art historical research of more than 3 years and adds value more than anything else on the page. There is no copyright issue as I have everything clarified with all the parties having an interest in it. So please undo your change or I do it. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RESA79|RESA79]] ([[User talk:RESA79|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RESA79|contribs]]) 14:04, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=628776424Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2014-10-08T11:37:51Z<p>Drapé: /* Exhibitions */</p>
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<div>{{Infobox artist<br />
| bgcolour = #EEDD82<br />
| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, en 2009.JPG<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
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The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
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== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, China's ink and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
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"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
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On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
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"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
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"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
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== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
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[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
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=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
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=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette de Cyr<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
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== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
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Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Relais culturel des Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (2001)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
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== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
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[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
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:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
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Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
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France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
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== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
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<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
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5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
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</gallery><br />
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| image = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, en 2009.JPG<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
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| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|left|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, China's ink and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette de Cyr<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
<br />
:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
<br />
5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
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| NAME = Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de<br />
| ALTERNATIVE NAMES =<br />
| SHORT DESCRIPTION = French painter<br />
| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
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[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
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| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, China's ink and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works with an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned French architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette de Cyr<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violinist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
<br />
:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
<br />
5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}<br />
<br />
{{Persondata<br />
| NAME = Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de<br />
| ALTERNATIVE NAMES =<br />
| SHORT DESCRIPTION = French painter<br />
| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
}}<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:20th-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:21st-century French painters]]<br />
[[Category:People from Bourges]]</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leonidas_I&diff=595265259Leonidas I2014-02-13T07:34:39Z<p>Drapé: /* Modern */</p>
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<div>{{Other uses2|Leonidas}}<br />
{{pp-protected|expiry=2014-06-25T22:35:19Z|small=yes}}{{Refimprove|date=August 2008}}<br />
{{Infobox monarch<br />
| name = Leonidas I<br />
| title = [[List of kings of Sparta|King of Sparta]]<br />
| image = Leonidas I of Sparta.jpg<br />
| image_size = 230px<br />
| caption = <br />
| reign = 489–480 BC<br />
| native_lang1 = Greek<br />
| native_lang1_name1 = Λεωνίδας<br />
| birth_date = c. 540 BC<br />
| birth_place = [[Sparta]]<br />
| death_date = 480 BC (aged around 60)<br />
| death_place = [[Thermopylae]]<br />
| predecessor = [[Cleomenes I]]<br />
| successor = [[Pleistarchus]]<br />
| queen = [[Gorgo, Queen of Sparta|Gorgo]]<br />
| royal house = [[Agiad]]<br />
| father = [[Anaxandridas II]]<br />
| mother = ''Unknown''<br />
| children = [[Pleistarchus]]<br />
| religion = [[Religion in ancient Greece|Greek Polytheism]]<br />
}}<br />
<br />
'''Leonidas I''' ({{IPAc-en|l|iː|ˈ|ɒ|n|ɨ|d|ə|s}} {{respell|lee|ON|i-dəs}} or {{IPAc-en|l|iː|ˈ|ɒ|n|.|ɨ|.|d|æ|s}}; [[Doric Greek|Doric]] and [[Modern Greek]]: {{lang|grc|Λεωνίδας}} {{IPA-el|leɔːnídas|}}, ''{{lang|grc-Latin|Leōnidas}}''; [[Ionic Greek]]: Λεωνίδης, ''Leōnidēs''; died 480 BC),<ref>Robert Chambers, Book of Days</ref> was a king of the Greek city-state of [[Sparta]]. He led the Spartan forces during the [[Second Persian invasion of Greece|Second Persian War]], and is remembered for his heroic death at the [[Battle of Thermopylae]]. Leonidas was the third son of [[Anaxandridas II|Anaxandridas II of Sparta]],<ref name="Morris 25">Morris, 25</ref> which traced its mythical descent to [[Heracles]].<br />
<br />
==Life==<br />
According to [[Herodotus]], Leonidas' mother was his father's niece and had been barren for so long that the [[ephor]]s, the five annually elected [[executive (government)|administrators]] of the Spartan constitution, tried to prevail upon King Anaxandridas to set aside his wife and take another. Anaxandridas refused, claiming his wife was blameless, whereupon the ephors agreed to allow him to take a second wife without setting aside his first. This second wife, a descendent of Chilon the Wise, promptly bore a son, [[Cleomenes I|Cleomenes]]. However, one year after Cleomenes' birth, Anaxandridas' first wife also gave birth to a son, [[Dorieus]]. Leonidas was the second son of Anaxandridas' first wife, and either the elder brother or twin of Cleombrotus.<ref>Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+5.39 5.39&ndash;41]; Jones, p. 48.</ref><br />
Because Leonidas was not heir to the throne, he was not exempt from attending the [[agoge]], the public school that the sons of all Spartans had to complete in order to qualify for citizenship.<ref>For more information on the agoge see: Nigel M. Kennell, ''The Gymnasium of Virtue'', Chapel Hill, University of North Carolina Press, 1995.</ref> Leonidas was thus one of the few Spartan kings to have ever undergone the notoriously harsh training of Spartan youth.<br />
<br />
Anaxandridas died in 520 BC,<ref name="Morris 35">Morris, 35</ref> and Cleomenes succeeded to the throne sometime between then and 516 BC.<ref>W. G. Forrest, ''A History of Sparta 950–192 B.C., New York, W.W. Norton & Company, 1968, p. 85.</ref><br />
Dorieus was so outraged that the Spartans had preferred his half-brother over himself that he found it impossible to remain in Sparta. He made one unsuccessful attempt to set up a colony in Africa and, when this failed, sought his fortune in Sicily, where after initial successes he was killed.<ref>Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+5.42 5.42&ndash;48]</ref> Leonidas' relationship with his bitterly antagonistic elder brothers is unknown, but he married Cleomenes' daughter, [[Gorgo, Queen of Sparta|Gorgo]], sometime before coming to the throne in 490 BC.<ref>Paul Cartledge, ''The Spartans: The World of the Warrior-Heroes of Ancient Greece'', New York, Vintage Books, 2002, p. 126.</ref><br />
[[File:3420 - Milano - Ernesto Bazzaro (1859-1937) - Monumento a Felice Cavallotti (1906) - Foto Giovanni Dall'Orto 23-Jun-2007.jpg|thumb|Leonidas I as depicted at the top of the monument to [[Felice Cavallotti]] in [[Milan]], created by [[Ernesto Bazzaro]] in 1906.]]<br />
Leonidas was clearly heir to the Agiad throne and a full citizen at the time of the [[Battle of Sepeia]] against Argos (c. 494 BC). Likewise, he was a full citizen when the Persians sought submission from Sparta and met with vehement rejection in or around 492/491 BC. His elder brother the king had already been deposed on grounds of purported insanity, and had fled into exile when Athens sought assistance against the Persian invasion that ended at Marathon (490 BC).<br />
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[[Plutarch]] has recorded the following: "When someone said to him: 'Except for being king you are not at all superior to us,' Leonidas son of Anaxandridas and brother of Cleomenes replied: 'But were I not better than you, I should not be king.'"<ref>Plutarch on Sparta, Sayings of Spartans, Leonidas son of Anaxandridas, #1</ref> As the product of the agoge, Leonidas is unlikely to have been referring to his royal blood alone but rather suggesting that he had, like his brother Dorieus, proven superior capability in the competitive environment of Spartan training and society, and that he believed this made him qualified to rule.<br />
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Leonidas was chosen to lead the combined Greek forces determined to resist the Persian invasion in 481 BC. This was not simply a tribute to Sparta's military prowess: The probability that the coalition wanted Leonidas personally for his capability as a military leader is underlined by the fact that just two years after his death, the coalition preferred Athenian leadership to the leadership of either Leotychidas or Leonidas' successor (as regent for his still under-aged son) Pausanias. The rejection of Leotychidas and Pausanias was not a reflection on Spartan arms. Sparta's military reputation had never stood in higher regard, nor was Sparta less powerful in 478 BC than it had been in 481 BC.<br />
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This election of Leonidas to lead the defense of Greece against Xerxes' invasion led to Leonidas' death in the [[Battle of Thermopylae]] in 480 BC.<br />
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==Battle of Thermopylae==<br />
{{Main|Battle of Thermopylae}}<br />
[[File:Léonidas aux Thermopyles (Jacques-Louis David).PNG|upright=1.3|thumb|''Leonidas at Thermopylae'' (1814) by [[Jacques-Louis David]], who chose the subject in the aftermath of the [[French Revolution]] as a model of "civic duty and self-sacrifice", but also as a contemplation of loss and death, with Leonidas quietly poised and [[heroic nudity|heroically nude]]<ref>Jack Johnson, "David and Literature," in ''Jacques-Louis David: New Perspectives'' (Rosemont, 2006), pp. 85–86 ''et passim''.</ref>]]<br />
Upon receiving a request from the confederated Greek forces to aid in defending Greece against the Persian invasion, Sparta consulted the [[Pythia|Oracle]] at [[Delphi]]. The Oracle is said to have made the following [[prophecy]] in [[hexameter]] verse:<br />
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{{quote|<poem>For you, inhabitants of wide-wayed Sparta,<br />
Either your great and glorious city must be wasted by Persian men,<br />
Or if not that, then the bound of Lacedaemon must mourn a dead king, from Heracles' line.<br />
The might of bulls or lions will not restrain him with opposing strength; for he has the might of Zeus.<br />
I declare that he will not be restrained until he utterly tears apart one of these.<ref name="7.220">Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+7.220 7.220]</ref></poem>}}<br />
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In August 480 BC, Leonidas went out to meet [[Xerxes I of Persia|Xerxes]]' army at Thermopylae with a small force of 300 men, where he was joined by forces from other Greek city-states, who put themselves under his command to form an army of 14,000 strong. There are various theories on why Leonidas was accompanied by such a small force of hoplites. According to [[Herodotus]], "the Spartans sent the men with Leonidas on ahead so that the rest of the allies would see them and march with no fear of defeat, instead of medizing like the others if they learned that the Spartans were delaying. After completing their festival Carneia, they left their garrison at Sparta and marched in full force towards Thermopylae. The rest of the allies planned to do likewise, for the Olympiad coincided with these events. They accordingly sent their advance guard, not expecting the war at Thermopylae to be decided so quickly."<ref>Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+7.206 7:206]</ref> Many modern commentators are unsatisfied with this explanation and point to the fact that the Olympic Games were in progress or impute internal dissent and intrigue.<br />
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Whatever the reason Sparta's own contribution was just 300 Spartiates (accompanied by their attendants and probably [[perioeci|perioikoi]] auxiliaries), the total force assembled for the defense of the pass of Thermopylae came to something between four and seven thousand Greeks. They faced a Persian army who had invaded from the north of Greece under [[Xerxes I of Persia|Xerxes I]]. Herodotus stated that this army consisted of over two million men; modern scholars consider this to be an exaggeration and give estimates ranging from 50,000 to 200,000.<ref>{{cite book | last=De Souza | first=Philip | title=The Greek and Persian Wars 499–386 BC | publisher=Osprey Publishing | location=Oxford|year=2003 | page=41 | url=http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=V5BeCF82gwUC&lpg=PA3}}</ref><br />
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Xerxes waited four days to attack, hoping the Greeks would disperse. Finally, on the fifth day the Persians attacked. Leonidas and his men repulsed the Persians' frontal attacks for the fifth and sixth days, killing roughly 20,000 of the enemy troops and losing about 2,500 of their own. The Persian elite unit known to the Greeks as "[[Persian Immortals|the Immortals]]" was held back, and two of Xerxes' brothers (Abrocomes and Hyperanthes) died in battle.<ref>{{cite book | author1 = Herodotus | author2 = George Rawlinson, editor | title = The History of Herodotus | publisher = D. Appleman and Company | year = 1885 | location = New York | pages = bk. 7 | url = http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Herother.html }}</ref> On the seventh day (August 11), a [[Malians (Greek tribe)|Malian Greek]] traitor named [[Ephialtes of Trachis|Ephialtes]] led the Persian general [[Hydarnes]] by a mountain track to the rear of the Greeks.<ref>{{cite book | author1 = Herodotus | author2 = Henry Cary, editor | title = The Histories of Herodotus | publisher = D. Appleton and Company | year = 1904 | location = New York | page = 438 | url = http://books.google.com/books?id=QsIcxGrq6QAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+Herodotus&ei=oN3zSbC6BaDCzQT5soXLDQ#PPA438,M1 }}</ref> At that point Leonidas sent away all Greek troops and remained in the pass with his 300 Spartans, 900 [[Helots]], and 700 [[Thespiae|Thespians]] who refused to leave.<br />
The Thespians stayed entirely of their own [[will (philosophy)|will]], declaring that they would not abandon Leonidas and his followers. Their leader was [[Demophilus of Thespiae|Demophilus]], son of Diadromes, and as [[Herodotus]] writes: "Hence they lived with the Spartans and died with them."<br />
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One theory provided by [[Herodotus]] is that Leonidas sent away the remainder of his men because he cared about their safety. The King would have thought it wise to preserve those Greek troops for future battles against the Persians, but he knew that the Spartans could never abandon their post on the battlefield. The soldiers who stayed behind were to protect their escape against the Persian cavalry. [[Herodotus]] himself believed that Leonidas gave the order because he perceived the allies to be out of heart and unwilling to encounter the danger to which his own mind was made up. He therefore chose to dismiss all troops except the Thespians and Helots and save the glory for the Spartans.<ref name="7.220"/><br />
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Of the small Greek force, attacked from both sides, all were killed except for the Thebans, who surrendered. Leonidas was killed, but the Spartans retrieved his body and protected it. [[Herodotus]] says that Xerxes' orders were to have Leonidas' head cut off and put on a stake and his body [[crucifixion|crucified]]. This was considered [[sacrilege|sacrilegious]].<ref>Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+7.238 7.238]</ref><br />
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==Legacy==<br />
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===Antiquity===<br />
A [[hero cult]] of Leonidas survived at Sparta until the [[Antonine dynasty|Antonine era]] (1st century AD).<ref>Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics, Part 12 By James Hastings Page 655 ISBN 0-567-09489-8</ref><br />
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===Thermopylae monument===<br />
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[[File:Molon labe2 edit crop.jpg|thumb|Statue of the Leonidas at the monument of [[Thermopylae]].]]<br />
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A monument to Leonidas was erected at Thermopylae in 1955. It features a bronze statue of Leonidas. A sign, under the statue, reads simply: "[[Molon labe|ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ]]" ("Come and take"), which the Spartans said when the Persians asked them to put down their weapons at the start of the Battle of Thermopylae.<br />
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Another statue, also with the inscription ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, was erected at [[Sparti (municipality)|Sparta]] in 1968.<br />
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===Modern===<br />
In the US Army, the 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division, with a detachment of 300 men, known as [[Diyala campaign|Task Force 300]] and led by then LtCol Andrew Poppas of Greek ancestry, was chosen to bolster the defenses of Baqubah in the Diyala River Valley, Iraq and led a series of battles named after Greek City-States.<ref>http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/Repository/SelectedSpeeches/Caldwell5-73BallRemarksFinalAsDelivered.pdf</ref><br />
[[File:Léonidas, La Mort d'un Prince (Arnaud de Vregille, 2007, 120 x 90 cm, Acrylique).jpg|thumb|''Léonidas, La mort d'un Prince'', [[Arnaud Courlet de Vregille]] (2007, Acrylic, 120 x 90 cm)]]<br />
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===Literature===<br />
''Leonidas'' was the name of an Epic poem written by Richard Glover, which originally appeared in 1737. It went on to appear in four other editions, being expanded from 9 books to 12.<br />
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He appears as the [[protagonist]] of [[Frank Miller (comics)|Frank Miller]]'s 1998 comic book series ''[[300 (comics)|300]]'', as it presents a fictionalized version of Leonidas and the Battle of Thermopylae, so does the [[300 (film)|2007 feature film adapted from it]].<br />
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Helena P. Schrader has produced a three-part biographical novel on Leonidas. ''Leonidas of Sparta: A Boy of the Agoge'', Wheatmark, Tucson, 2010 ISBN 978-1-60494-474-7 ''Leonidas of Sparta: A Peerless Peer'', Wheatmark, Tucson, 2011, ISBN 978-1-60494-602-4 and "Leonidas of Sparta: A Heroic King" (scheduled for publication 2012).<br />
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===Film===<br />
{{Further|Battle of Thermopylae in popular culture|Sparta in popular culture}}<br />
In cinema, Leonidas has been portrayed by:<br />
*[[Richard Egan (actor)|Richard Egan]] in the 1962 epic ''[[The 300 Spartans]]''.<br />
*[[Gerard Butler]] in the 2007 film ''[[300 (film)|300]]'', inspired by the [[graphic novel]] of the [[300 (comics)|same name]] by [[Frank Miller (comics)|Frank Miller]] and [[Lynn Varley]]. [[Tyler Neitzel]] portrayed Leonidas as a young man. Voice actors for foreign dubs include [[Tilo Schmitz]] (German) and [[Jōji Nakata]] (Japanese).<br />
*[[Scott Burn]] in the 2007 spoof ''[[United 300]]''.<br />
*[[Sean Maguire]] in the 2008 spoof ''[[Meet the Spartans]]''.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
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==References==<br />
* Herodotus, ''Herodotus, with an English translation by A. D. Godley''. Cambridge. Harvard University Press. 1920.<br />
* Jones, A. H. M. ''Sparta'', New York, Barnes and Nobles, 1967<br />
* Morris, Ian Macgregor, ''Leonidas: Hero of Thermopylae,'' New York, The Rosen Publishing Group, 2004.<br />
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* {{EB1911|title=Leonidas}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
{{Portal|Ancient Greece|Biography}}<br />
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*[http://www.awesomestories.com/flicks/300-story/leonidas Leonidas and the 300 Spartans] with explanatory animations, [http://www.awesomestories.com/flicks/300-story/ephialtes-the-traitor videos and rare images from Sparta's Archaeological Museum]<br />
* [http://elysiumgates.com/~helena/Leonidas.html Sparta Reconsidered] provides a comprehensive look at Sparta including an essay on Leonidas.[http://elysiumgates.com/~helena/Leonidas.html]<br />
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* The website [http://www.sparta-leonidas-gorgo.com/ Sparta-Leonidas-Gorgo] is specifically dedicated to Leonidas and his wife Gorgo.[http://www.sparta-leonidas-gorgo.com/]<br />
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{{Infobox monarch<br />
| name = Leonidas I<br />
| title = [[List of kings of Sparta|King of Sparta]]<br />
| image = Leonidas I of Sparta.jpg<br />
| image_size = 230px<br />
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| reign = 489–480 BC<br />
| native_lang1 = Greek<br />
| native_lang1_name1 = Λεωνίδας<br />
| birth_date = c. 540 BC<br />
| birth_place = [[Sparta]]<br />
| death_date = 480 BC (aged around 60)<br />
| death_place = [[Thermopylae]]<br />
| predecessor = [[Cleomenes I]]<br />
| successor = [[Pleistarchus]]<br />
| queen = [[Gorgo, Queen of Sparta|Gorgo]]<br />
| royal house = [[Agiad]]<br />
| father = [[Anaxandridas II]]<br />
| mother = ''Unknown''<br />
| children = [[Pleistarchus]]<br />
| religion = [[Religion in ancient Greece|Greek Polytheism]]<br />
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'''Leonidas I''' ({{IPAc-en|l|iː|ˈ|ɒ|n|ɨ|d|ə|s}} {{respell|lee|ON|i-dəs}} or {{IPAc-en|l|iː|ˈ|ɒ|n|.|ɨ|.|d|æ|s}}; [[Doric Greek|Doric]] and [[Modern Greek]]: {{lang|grc|Λεωνίδας}} {{IPA-el|leɔːnídas|}}, ''{{lang|grc-Latin|Leōnidas}}''; [[Ionic Greek]]: Λεωνίδης, ''Leōnidēs''; died 480 BC),<ref>Robert Chambers, Book of Days</ref> was a king of the Greek city-state of [[Sparta]]. He led the Spartan forces during the [[Second Persian invasion of Greece|Second Persian War]], and is remembered for his heroic death at the [[Battle of Thermopylae]]. Leonidas was the third son of [[Anaxandridas II|Anaxandridas II of Sparta]],<ref name="Morris 25">Morris, 25</ref> which traced its mythical descent to [[Heracles]].<br />
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==Life==<br />
According to [[Herodotus]], Leonidas' mother was his father's niece and had been barren for so long that the [[ephor]]s, the five annually elected [[executive (government)|administrators]] of the Spartan constitution, tried to prevail upon King Anaxandridas to set aside his wife and take another. Anaxandridas refused, claiming his wife was blameless, whereupon the ephors agreed to allow him to take a second wife without setting aside his first. This second wife, a descendent of Chilon the Wise, promptly bore a son, [[Cleomenes I|Cleomenes]]. However, one year after Cleomenes' birth, Anaxandridas' first wife also gave birth to a son, [[Dorieus]]. Leonidas was the second son of Anaxandridas' first wife, and either the elder brother or twin of Cleombrotus.<ref>Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+5.39 5.39&ndash;41]; Jones, p. 48.</ref><br />
Because Leonidas was not heir to the throne, he was not exempt from attending the [[agoge]], the public school that the sons of all Spartans had to complete in order to qualify for citizenship.<ref>For more information on the agoge see: Nigel M. Kennell, ''The Gymnasium of Virtue'', Chapel Hill, University of North Carolina Press, 1995.</ref> Leonidas was thus one of the few Spartan kings to have ever undergone the notoriously harsh training of Spartan youth.<br />
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Anaxandridas died in 520 BC,<ref name="Morris 35">Morris, 35</ref> and Cleomenes succeeded to the throne sometime between then and 516 BC.<ref>W. G. Forrest, ''A History of Sparta 950–192 B.C., New York, W.W. Norton & Company, 1968, p. 85.</ref><br />
Dorieus was so outraged that the Spartans had preferred his half-brother over himself that he found it impossible to remain in Sparta. He made one unsuccessful attempt to set up a colony in Africa and, when this failed, sought his fortune in Sicily, where after initial successes he was killed.<ref>Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+5.42 5.42&ndash;48]</ref> Leonidas' relationship with his bitterly antagonistic elder brothers is unknown, but he married Cleomenes' daughter, [[Gorgo, Queen of Sparta|Gorgo]], sometime before coming to the throne in 490 BC.<ref>Paul Cartledge, ''The Spartans: The World of the Warrior-Heroes of Ancient Greece'', New York, Vintage Books, 2002, p. 126.</ref><br />
[[File:3420 - Milano - Ernesto Bazzaro (1859-1937) - Monumento a Felice Cavallotti (1906) - Foto Giovanni Dall'Orto 23-Jun-2007.jpg|thumb|Leonidas I as depicted at the top of the monument to [[Felice Cavallotti]] in [[Milan]], created by [[Ernesto Bazzaro]] in 1906.]]<br />
Leonidas was clearly heir to the Agiad throne and a full citizen at the time of the [[Battle of Sepeia]] against Argos (c. 494 BC). Likewise, he was a full citizen when the Persians sought submission from Sparta and met with vehement rejection in or around 492/491 BC. His elder brother the king had already been deposed on grounds of purported insanity, and had fled into exile when Athens sought assistance against the Persian invasion that ended at Marathon (490 BC).<br />
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[[Plutarch]] has recorded the following: "When someone said to him: 'Except for being king you are not at all superior to us,' Leonidas son of Anaxandridas and brother of Cleomenes replied: 'But were I not better than you, I should not be king.'"<ref>Plutarch on Sparta, Sayings of Spartans, Leonidas son of Anaxandridas, #1</ref> As the product of the agoge, Leonidas is unlikely to have been referring to his royal blood alone but rather suggesting that he had, like his brother Dorieus, proven superior capability in the competitive environment of Spartan training and society, and that he believed this made him qualified to rule.<br />
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Leonidas was chosen to lead the combined Greek forces determined to resist the Persian invasion in 481 BC. This was not simply a tribute to Sparta's military prowess: The probability that the coalition wanted Leonidas personally for his capability as a military leader is underlined by the fact that just two years after his death, the coalition preferred Athenian leadership to the leadership of either Leotychidas or Leonidas' successor (as regent for his still under-aged son) Pausanias. The rejection of Leotychidas and Pausanias was not a reflection on Spartan arms. Sparta's military reputation had never stood in higher regard, nor was Sparta less powerful in 478 BC than it had been in 481 BC.<br />
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This election of Leonidas to lead the defense of Greece against Xerxes' invasion led to Leonidas' death in the [[Battle of Thermopylae]] in 480 BC.<br />
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==Battle of Thermopylae==<br />
{{Main|Battle of Thermopylae}}<br />
[[File:Léonidas aux Thermopyles (Jacques-Louis David).PNG|upright=1.3|thumb|''Leonidas at Thermopylae'' (1814) by [[Jacques-Louis David]], who chose the subject in the aftermath of the [[French Revolution]] as a model of "civic duty and self-sacrifice", but also as a contemplation of loss and death, with Leonidas quietly poised and [[heroic nudity|heroically nude]]<ref>Jack Johnson, "David and Literature," in ''Jacques-Louis David: New Perspectives'' (Rosemont, 2006), pp. 85–86 ''et passim''.</ref>]]<br />
Upon receiving a request from the confederated Greek forces to aid in defending Greece against the Persian invasion, Sparta consulted the [[Pythia|Oracle]] at [[Delphi]]. The Oracle is said to have made the following [[prophecy]] in [[hexameter]] verse:<br />
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{{quote|<poem>For you, inhabitants of wide-wayed Sparta,<br />
Either your great and glorious city must be wasted by Persian men,<br />
Or if not that, then the bound of Lacedaemon must mourn a dead king, from Heracles' line.<br />
The might of bulls or lions will not restrain him with opposing strength; for he has the might of Zeus.<br />
I declare that he will not be restrained until he utterly tears apart one of these.<ref name="7.220">Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+7.220 7.220]</ref></poem>}}<br />
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In August 480 BC, Leonidas went out to meet [[Xerxes I of Persia|Xerxes]]' army at Thermopylae with a small force of 300 men, where he was joined by forces from other Greek city-states, who put themselves under his command to form an army of 14,000 strong. There are various theories on why Leonidas was accompanied by such a small force of hoplites. According to [[Herodotus]], "the Spartans sent the men with Leonidas on ahead so that the rest of the allies would see them and march with no fear of defeat, instead of medizing like the others if they learned that the Spartans were delaying. After completing their festival Carneia, they left their garrison at Sparta and marched in full force towards Thermopylae. The rest of the allies planned to do likewise, for the Olympiad coincided with these events. They accordingly sent their advance guard, not expecting the war at Thermopylae to be decided so quickly."<ref>Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+7.206 7:206]</ref> Many modern commentators are unsatisfied with this explanation and point to the fact that the Olympic Games were in progress or impute internal dissent and intrigue.<br />
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Whatever the reason Sparta's own contribution was just 300 Spartiates (accompanied by their attendants and probably [[perioeci|perioikoi]] auxiliaries), the total force assembled for the defense of the pass of Thermopylae came to something between four and seven thousand Greeks. They faced a Persian army who had invaded from the north of Greece under [[Xerxes I of Persia|Xerxes I]]. Herodotus stated that this army consisted of over two million men; modern scholars consider this to be an exaggeration and give estimates ranging from 50,000 to 200,000.<ref>{{cite book | last=De Souza | first=Philip | title=The Greek and Persian Wars 499–386 BC | publisher=Osprey Publishing | location=Oxford|year=2003 | page=41 | url=http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=V5BeCF82gwUC&lpg=PA3}}</ref><br />
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Xerxes waited four days to attack, hoping the Greeks would disperse. Finally, on the fifth day the Persians attacked. Leonidas and his men repulsed the Persians' frontal attacks for the fifth and sixth days, killing roughly 20,000 of the enemy troops and losing about 2,500 of their own. The Persian elite unit known to the Greeks as "[[Persian Immortals|the Immortals]]" was held back, and two of Xerxes' brothers (Abrocomes and Hyperanthes) died in battle.<ref>{{cite book | author1 = Herodotus | author2 = George Rawlinson, editor | title = The History of Herodotus | publisher = D. Appleman and Company | year = 1885 | location = New York | pages = bk. 7 | url = http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Herother.html }}</ref> On the seventh day (August 11), a [[Malians (Greek tribe)|Malian Greek]] traitor named [[Ephialtes of Trachis|Ephialtes]] led the Persian general [[Hydarnes]] by a mountain track to the rear of the Greeks.<ref>{{cite book | author1 = Herodotus | author2 = Henry Cary, editor | title = The Histories of Herodotus | publisher = D. Appleton and Company | year = 1904 | location = New York | page = 438 | url = http://books.google.com/books?id=QsIcxGrq6QAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+Herodotus&ei=oN3zSbC6BaDCzQT5soXLDQ#PPA438,M1 }}</ref> At that point Leonidas sent away all Greek troops and remained in the pass with his 300 Spartans, 900 [[Helots]], and 700 [[Thespiae|Thespians]] who refused to leave.<br />
The Thespians stayed entirely of their own [[will (philosophy)|will]], declaring that they would not abandon Leonidas and his followers. Their leader was [[Demophilus of Thespiae|Demophilus]], son of Diadromes, and as [[Herodotus]] writes: "Hence they lived with the Spartans and died with them."<br />
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One theory provided by [[Herodotus]] is that Leonidas sent away the remainder of his men because he cared about their safety. The King would have thought it wise to preserve those Greek troops for future battles against the Persians, but he knew that the Spartans could never abandon their post on the battlefield. The soldiers who stayed behind were to protect their escape against the Persian cavalry. [[Herodotus]] himself believed that Leonidas gave the order because he perceived the allies to be out of heart and unwilling to encounter the danger to which his own mind was made up. He therefore chose to dismiss all troops except the Thespians and Helots and save the glory for the Spartans.<ref name="7.220"/><br />
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Of the small Greek force, attacked from both sides, all were killed except for the Thebans, who surrendered. Leonidas was killed, but the Spartans retrieved his body and protected it. [[Herodotus]] says that Xerxes' orders were to have Leonidas' head cut off and put on a stake and his body [[crucifixion|crucified]]. This was considered [[sacrilege|sacrilegious]].<ref>Herodotus, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+7.238 7.238]</ref><br />
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==Legacy==<br />
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===Antiquity===<br />
A [[hero cult]] of Leonidas survived at Sparta until the [[Antonine dynasty|Antonine era]] (1st century AD).<ref>Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics, Part 12 By James Hastings Page 655 ISBN 0-567-09489-8</ref><br />
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===Thermopylae monument===<br />
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[[File:Molon labe2 edit crop.jpg|thumb|Statue of the Leonidas at the monument of [[Thermopylae]].]]<br />
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A monument to Leonidas was erected at Thermopylae in 1955. It features a bronze statue of Leonidas. A sign, under the statue, reads simply: "[[Molon labe|ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ]]" ("Come and take"), which the Spartans said when the Persians asked them to put down their weapons at the start of the Battle of Thermopylae.<br />
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Another statue, also with the inscription ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, was erected at [[Sparti (municipality)|Sparta]] in 1968.<br />
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In the US Army, the 5th Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division, with a detachment of 300 men, known as [[Diyala campaign|Task Force 300]] and led by then LtCol Andrew Poppas of Greek ancestry, was chosen to bolster the defenses of Baqubah in the Diyala River Valley, Iraq and led a series of battles named after Greek City-States.<ref>http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/Repository/SelectedSpeeches/Caldwell5-73BallRemarksFinalAsDelivered.pdf</ref><br />
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''Leonidas'' was the name of an Epic poem written by Richard Glover, which originally appeared in 1737. It went on to appear in four other editions, being expanded from 9 books to 12.<br />
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He appears as the [[protagonist]] of [[Frank Miller (comics)|Frank Miller]]'s 1998 comic book series ''[[300 (comics)|300]]'', as it presents a fictionalized version of Leonidas and the Battle of Thermopylae, so does the [[300 (film)|2007 feature film adapted from it]].<br />
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Helena P. Schrader has produced a three-part biographical novel on Leonidas. ''Leonidas of Sparta: A Boy of the Agoge'', Wheatmark, Tucson, 2010 ISBN 978-1-60494-474-7 ''Leonidas of Sparta: A Peerless Peer'', Wheatmark, Tucson, 2011, ISBN 978-1-60494-602-4 and "Leonidas of Sparta: A Heroic King" (scheduled for publication 2012).<br />
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In cinema, Leonidas has been portrayed by:<br />
*[[Richard Egan (actor)|Richard Egan]] in the 1962 epic ''[[The 300 Spartans]]''.<br />
*[[Gerard Butler]] in the 2007 film ''[[300 (film)|300]]'', inspired by the [[graphic novel]] of the [[300 (comics)|same name]] by [[Frank Miller (comics)|Frank Miller]] and [[Lynn Varley]]. [[Tyler Neitzel]] portrayed Leonidas as a young man. Voice actors for foreign dubs include [[Tilo Schmitz]] (German) and [[Jōji Nakata]] (Japanese).<br />
*[[Scott Burn]] in the 2007 spoof ''[[United 300]]''.<br />
*[[Sean Maguire]] in the 2008 spoof ''[[Meet the Spartans]]''.<br />
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* Herodotus, ''Herodotus, with an English translation by A. D. Godley''. Cambridge. Harvard University Press. 1920.<br />
* Jones, A. H. M. ''Sparta'', New York, Barnes and Nobles, 1967<br />
* Morris, Ian Macgregor, ''Leonidas: Hero of Thermopylae,'' New York, The Rosen Publishing Group, 2004.<br />
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* {{EB1911|title=Leonidas}}<br />
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*[http://www.awesomestories.com/flicks/300-story/leonidas Leonidas and the 300 Spartans] with explanatory animations, [http://www.awesomestories.com/flicks/300-story/ephialtes-the-traitor videos and rare images from Sparta's Archaeological Museum]<br />
* [http://elysiumgates.com/~helena/Leonidas.html Sparta Reconsidered] provides a comprehensive look at Sparta including an essay on Leonidas.[http://elysiumgates.com/~helena/Leonidas.html]<br />
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* The website [http://www.sparta-leonidas-gorgo.com/ Sparta-Leonidas-Gorgo] is specifically dedicated to Leonidas and his wife Gorgo.[http://www.sparta-leonidas-gorgo.com/]<br />
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'''Otto van Veen''', also known by his [[Latin]]ized name '''Otto Venius''' or '''Octavius Vaenius''', (c.1556 – 6 May 1629) was a [[Painting|painter]], [[Drawing|draughtsman]], and [[Humanism|humanist]] active primarily in [[Antwerp]] and [[Brussels]] in the late sixteenth and early seventeenth century. He is known for running a large studio in Antwerp, producing several [[emblem book]]s, and for being, from 1594 or 1595 until 1598, [[Peter Paul Rubens|Peter Paul Rubens's]] teacher. His role as a [[Classical education movement|classically educated]] humanist artist (a ''pictor doctus''), reflected in the Latin name by which he is often known, Octavius Vaenius, was influential on the young Rubens, who would take on that role himself.<ref>Belkin (1998): 26–28.</ref><br />
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[[File:Schouburg I PlateTitleprint with Otto van Veen.jpg|thumb|left|Title print of three volume book ''Schouburg'', by [[Arnold Houbraken]]. Houbraken considered Van Veen to be the most impressive artist and scholar of his day and put his portrait (lower left) on his title print.<ref>{{Language icon|nl|Middle Dutch}} [http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/houb005groo01_01/houb005groo01_01_0015.htm Octavio van Veen biography] in ''De groote schouburgh der Nederlantsche konstschilders en schilderessen'' (1718) by [[Arnold Houbraken]], courtesy of the [[Digital library for Dutch literature]]</ref>]]<br />
[[File:Otto van Veen.jpg|thumb|''Christ in the House of Martha and Mary'', ''c''. 1597]]<br />
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Van Veen was born in Leiden around 1556, where his father had been [[Burgomaster]].<ref name="Van de Velde">Van de Velde.</ref> He probably was a pupil of [[Isaac Claesz van Swanenburg]] until October 1572, when the [[Roman Catholicism|Catholic]] family moved to Antwerp, and then to [[Liège]]. He studied for a time under [[Dominicus Lampsonius]] and [[Jean Ramey]], before traveling to [[Rome]] around 1574 or 1575. He stayed there for about five years, perhaps studying with [[Federico Zuccari]]. [[Carel van Mander]] relates that van Veen then worked at the courts of [[Rudolf II]] in [[Prague]] and [[William V of Bavaria]] in [[Munich]], before returning to the [[Low Countries]].<ref name=Mander>{{Language icon|nl|Middle Dutch}} [http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/mand001schi01_01/mand001schi01_01_0268.htm Octavio van Veen] in [[Karel van Mander]]'s ''Schilderboeck'', 1604, courtesy of the [[Digital library for Dutch literature]]</ref> In Brussels, he was [[court painter]] to the governor of the [[Southern Netherlands]], [[Alexander Farnese, Duke of Parma]] until 1592, and then active in Antwerp.<br />
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After becoming a master in the [[Guild of St. Luke]] in 1593, van Veen took numerous commissions for church decorations, including altarpieces for the [[Cathedral of Our Lady, Antwerp|Antwerp cathedral]] and a chapel in the [[Antwerp City Hall|city hall]]. He also organized his studio and workshop, which included Rubens. Van Veen's connection to Brussels remained, however, and when [[Archduke Ernest of Austria]] became governor in 1594, he may have aided the archduke in acquiring important Netherlandish paintings by the likes of [[Hieronymus Bosch]] and [[Pieter Bruegel the Elder]].<ref>Bertini (1998): 119.</ref> The artist later served as dean in two prominent organizations in the city, the Guild of St. Luke in 1602, and the [[Guild of Romanists|Romanists]] in 1606.<br />
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In the seventeenth century, van Veen often worked for the Archdukes [[Albert VII, Archduke of Austria|Albert]] and [[Infanta Isabella Clara Eugenia of Spain|Isabella]], but never as their court painter.<ref name="Van de Velde"/> Later paintings include a series of twelve paintings depicting the battles of the Romans and the [[Batavians]],<ref>[http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/?/nl/items/RIJK01:SK-A-423 Brinio op het schild geheven] Painting by Otto van Veen</ref> based on engravings he had already published of the subject, for the [[Dutch Republic|Dutch]] [[States-General of the Netherlands|States General]].<ref>[http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/aria_assets/SK-A-424?lang=en&context_space=&context_id= Rijksmuseum]</ref> He had two brothers who were painters; Gijsbert van Veen (1562-1628) was a respected engraver and Pieter was an amateur.<ref name=Mander /> His daughter Gertruid was also a painter.<ref> [http://www.rkd.nl/rkddb/dispatcher.aspx?action=search&database=ChoiceArtists&search=priref=79613 Gertruida van Veen(1602-1643)] in the [[RKD]]</ref> He died in [[Brussels]].<br />
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[[File:1.amorum emblemata, 1608.jpg|center|thumb|Veen, Otto van. Amorum Emblemata... Emblemes of Love, with verses in Latin, English, and Italian. Antwerp: [Typis Henrici Swingenii] Venalia apud Auctorem, 1608.]]<br />
[[File:2.amorum emlemata.jpg|right|thumb|Veen, Otto van. Amorum Emblemata... Emblemes of Love, with verses in Latin, English, and Italian. Antwerp: [Typis Henrici Swingenii] Venalia apud Auctorem, 1608.]]<br />
[[File:40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 x 40 cm Encre acrylique.JPG|thumb| ''Le Procès'', by [[Arnaud Courlet de Vregille]], French peinter and descendant of Otto van Veen (1989, Acrylic ink, 60 x 40)]]<br />
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Increasingly, van Veen was active in producing [[Emblem books]], including ''Quinti Horatii Flacci emblemata'' (1607), ''Amorum emblemata'' (1608), and ''Amoris divini emblemata'' (1615). In all these works, van Veen's skills as an artist and learned humanist are on display. The ''Amorum emblemata'', for example, pictures 124 [[putti]], or little cupids, enacting the mottoes and quotations from lyricists, philosophers, and ancient writers on the powers of Love. About van Veen's emblems Tina Montone has written, "In the course of the seventeenth century the Amorum emblemata was to become one of the most influential books of its time, functioning not only as a model for other Dutch and foreign emblem books, but also as a source of inspiration for many artists in other fields." <ref> Montone, p. 47.</ref> Some of these emblems are as relevant today as they would have to a seventeenth-century audience. A few examples of these mottoes read: "A Wished Warre: The woundes that lovers give are willingly receaved..." He goes on to quote Cicero and Seneca on this theme and depicts two Cupids exchanging arrows. Another example familiar to us today as the story of [[The Tortoise and the Hare]] (originally a fable by [[Aesop]]), is titled "Perseverance winneth: The hare and the tortes layd a wager of their speed ..." shows us a cupid and tortoise outpacing the hare and exemplifying the idea that the love which is steady and constant will ultimately win the race. <ref> Quotations from Veen, 1608</ref><br />
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*[http://emblems.let.uu.nl/index.html Emblem Project Utrecht] - 3 editions of emblem books by Otto van Veen<br />
* [http://www.dspt.edu/197810316143459540/blank/browse.asp?A=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&C=55892 Vita D. Thomae Aquinatis] a manuscript by Otto van Veen (1610)<br />
* [http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/veen_otto_van.html Otto van Veen on Artcyclopedia]<br />
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==References==<br />
* Belkin, Kristin Lohse: ''Rubens''. [[Phaidon Press]], 1998. ISBN 0-7148-3412-2.<br />
* Bertini, Giuseppe: "Otto van Veen, Cosimo Masi and the Art Market in Antwerp at the End of the Sixteenth Century." ''Burlington Magazine'' vol. 140, no. 1139. (Feb. 1998), pp.&nbsp;119–120.<br />
* Montone, Tina, "'Dolci ire, dolci sdegni, e dolci paci': The Role of the Italian Collaborator in the Making of Otto Vaenius's Amorum Emblemata," in Alison Adams and Marleen van der Weij, ''Emblems of the Low Countries: A Book Historical Perspective''. Glasgow Emblem Studies, vol. 8. Glasgow: University of Glasgow, 2003. p.47. <br />
* [http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/aria_assets/SK-A-424?lang=en&context_space=&context_id= Rijksmuseum Amsterdam, Otto van Veen's ''Batavians defeating the Roman'' (''sic'')]<br />
* Van de Velde, Carl: "Veen [Vaenius; Venius], Otto van" ''Grove Art Online''. [[Oxford University Press]], [accessed 18 May 2007].<br />
*[http://www.rkd.nl/rkddb/(ufvyulvppfkplhrn2mixlu45)/detail.aspx Entry at the Netherlands Institute for Art History]<br />
* Veen, Otto van. Amorum Emblemata... Emblemes of Love, with verses in Latin, English, and Italian. Antwerp: [Typis Henrici Swingenii] Venalia apud Auctorem, 1608. <br />
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How often is this bot going to be doing runs? When it edits I am unable to see the previous editor on my watchlist. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:30, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:These sorts of changes are not needed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hepatitis_C&diff=589369328&oldid=589229771] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hepatitis_C&diff=587537899&oldid=587355356] and if they are going to occur on a weekly basis we may need to shut this bot down. They are burying vandalism. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:34, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Change the template generated in the infobox for cite journal and cite ISBN if there are issues. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::{{ping|Jmh649}} I will give a detailed response on your talk page before restarting [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BattyBot 25|this task to fix date formatting]]. In the meantime, I will have the bot run an [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BattyBot 27|unrelated task to fix broken URLs]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 12:14, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. I am a content editor and care little about the ordering of the date. These are minor tasks. The issue is if they are interfering with more important surveillance. Can you bundle tasks together such that the bot is only run once a quarter? [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:39, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Mike - please post your requests on [[User talk:GoingBatty]], as they have nothing to do with this bot. (Also please use the New section button to give your posts a title, and use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to automatically sign and date your posts.) Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 12:14, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Yes, please stop this bot. I have wondered about some of these changes before, but changing "Sept." to "Sep" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siletzia&diff=589860868&oldid=589692996 this edit]) is pointless, even silly. And the double indirect link to a possible explanation is not satisfactory. If there is some rationale for this change please link to it directly. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 22:02, 9 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:{{ping|J. Johnson}} Now that you mention it, the edit summary can be improved. From now on, I'll use "''fixed [[:Category:CS1 errors: dates|CS1 errors: dates]] to meet [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] (also [[WP:AWB/GF|General fixes]])''" to better explain (within the limited available space) why the edits are neither pointless nor silly. I've provided more information on the task at [[User:BattyBot]]. Your input at [[Help talk:Citation Style 1]] before the {{red|Check date value}} messages are visible to all editors would be appreciated. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|J. Johnson}} On second thought, I'll use "''fixed [[Help:CS1_errors#bad_date|CS1 errors: dates]] to meet [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] (also [[WP:AWB/GF|General fixes]])''" - the first link goes to a simpler explanation. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::None of those links point to any discussion of why "Sep" is better than "Sept." This change is unjustified. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 22:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::See the third and fourth row in the [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] table. The notation "MMM" in the table indicates that month abbreviations should be three letters. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 23:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::[[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] also uses "Sep" as the example several times. If you would like to propose a change to the MOS, let's discuss at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers]]. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 23:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:What was the point of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=72_Days&diff=590231099&oldid=543689033 this edit]? Read the rules of use for AWB, esp. point 4. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 17:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|Lugnuts}} It removed the unnecessary dash at the beginning of {{para|accessdate|-2011-09-29}}. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:24, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Great. Now go and read the rules of use of AWB. Again. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 17:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Done. While removing a dash may seem "insignificant or inconsequential", it also removed the article from [[:Category:CS1 errors: dates]], fixed the [[WP:COinS]] output of the reference, and ensured that there won't be a {{red|Check date values}} error shown in the future. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::{{tps}} and even if none of the last three had applied, it would still have been a valid [[typo]] fix. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 19:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:1) As before: the link in your edit summary does ''not'' point to any discussion or text justifying the conversion of "Sept." to "Sep", not even to (quoting Jonesey95) "{{tq|the third and fourth row in the [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] table}}".<br />
:2) [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] lists ''acceptable date formats''. It does '''not''' require, recommend, suggest, or condone conversion of abbreviated months to "short month name". It does specify "[o]nly ... where conciseness is needed", which is not the case for edits you did. <br />
:3) "Sep" is certainly used as an example several times. But you seem to have missed the example in a following section — [[MOS:DATEUNIFY|Consistency]] — where the mixed use of (what a coincidence) of "Sep" and "September" is '''explictly rejected'''.<br />
:4) The proper correction for an abbreviated month, especially where the context already includes full month names generally, is — the ''full month name''. Your "correction" is inconsistent, and thus '''in'''correct. <br />
:Please desist from your ill-considered and incorrect edits. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 21:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|J. Johnson}} I will reply to your post on [[User talk:GoingBatty]], so that further conversation does not interrupt the running of [[User:BattyBot|unrelated BattyBot tasks]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:09, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::I think this dubious behavior qualifies as "broken". Until it is justified, fixed, or removed the bot should be interrupted. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 21:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::While we discuss BattyBot's task 25, BattyBot can run other tasks that are not associates with changing dates - see [[User:BattyBot]] for a complete list of tasks. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:47, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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<div>{{Infobox person<br />
| name = Romy Schneider<br />
| image = Romy Scheider (cropped).jpg<br />
| image size = 250px<br />
| caption = Romy Schneider, September 1965<br />
| birth_name = {{Nowrap|Rosemarie Magdalena Albach}}<br />
| birth_date = {{Birth date|df=yes|1938|9|23}}<br />
| birth_place = Vienna, Austria<br />
| death_date = {{Death date and age|df=yes|1982|5|29|1938|9|23}}<br />
| death_place = Paris, France<br />
| occupation = Actress<br />
| years_active = 1953–1982<br />
| spouse ={{Plainlist|<br />
*[[Harry Meyen]] (1966–1975)<br />
*Daniel Biasini (1975–1981)}}<br />
| partner = [[Alain Delon]] (1959–1963)<br />
| children =David Haubenstock, [[Sarah Biasini]]<br />
}}<br />
'''Romy Schneider''' (23 September 1938 – 29 May 1982) was an Austrian-born film actress who held German and French citizenship. She started her career in the German ''{{Lang|de|[[Heimatfilm]]}}'' genre in the early 1950s when she was 15. From 1955 to 1957 she played the central character of [[Empress Elisabeth of Austria]] in the Austrian ''[[Sissi (film)|Sissi]]'' trilogy. In 1958 she met [[Alain Delon]] and they became engaged; Schneider moved to France where she made successful and critically acclaimed films with some of the most notable film directors of that era. Her engagement to Delon ended in 1963 and Schneider subsequently married twice. The son from her first marriage died in an accident in 1981 when he was 14. In May 1982, aged 43, Schneider was found dead in her Paris apartment.<br />
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==Early life==<br />
Schneider was born '''Rosemarie Magdalena Albach''' in Nazi-era Vienna, six months after the [[Anschluss]], into a family of actors that included her paternal grandmother [[Rosa Albach-Retty]], her Austrian father [[Wolf Albach-Retty]] and her German mother [[Magda Schneider]]. After her parents' divorce in 1945, Magda took charge of Romy and her brother Wolfi, eventually supervising the young girl's career, often appearing alongside her daughter. Her career was also overseen by her stepfather, [[:de:Hans Herbert Blatzheim|Hans Herbert Blatzheim]], a noted restaurateur who Schneider indicated had an unhealthy interest in her.<ref>{{cite web<br />
|url = http://www.pipole.net/+-romy-schneider-+.html<br />
|title = Biography<br />
|accessdate = 28 October 2007<br />
|publisher = pipole.net<br />
|language = French<br />
|quote = Romy témoignant par la suite de l’intérêt malsain qu’il lui portait.<br />
|archiveurl = http://web.archive.org/web/20071030002343/http://www.pipole.net/+-romy-schneider-+.html <!-- Bot retrieved archive --> |archivedate = 30 October 2007}}</ref><ref>{{cite web<br />
|url = http://www.seniorplaza.nl/BeroemdhBuiten9.htm<br />
|title = Biography and career<br />
|accessdate = 28 October 2007<br />
|publisher = SeniorPlaza.nl<br />
|language = Dutch<br />
|quote = waarvan Romy later aangaf dat hij een ongezonde belangstelling voor haar had<br />
}}</ref><ref>{{cite web<br />
|url = http://sz-shop.sueddeutsche.de/szpopups/serie_noire/dvd03_starportrait_Schneider.html<br />
|title = Auch das noch – Alice Schwarzer entdeckt Romy Schneider als Frauensymbol<br />
|accessdate = 28 October 2007<br />
|last = Surkus<br />
|first = Andrea<br />
|publisher = ''[[Süddeutsche Zeitung]]''<br />
|language = German<br />
|quote = und will mit ihr schlafen}}</ref><ref>{{cite web<br />
|url = http://www.fembio.org/biographie.php/frau/biographie/romy-schneider/<br />
|title = Biography<br />
|accessdate = 28 October 2007<br />
|last = Gretter<br />
|first = Susanne<br />
|publisher = FemBio Frauen-Biographieforschung e.V.<br />
|language = German & French<br />
|quote = Il a clairement proposé de coucher avec moi.}}</ref><ref>{{cite web<br />
|url = http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/archiv/.bin/dump.fcgi/1998/0919/magazin/0066/index.html<br />
|title = Der Liebling der Machos<br />
|accessdate = 28 October 2007<br />
|last = Leinkauf<br />
|first = Thomas<br />
|date = 19 September 1998<br />
|publisher = ''[[Berliner Zeitung]]''<br />
|language = German<br />
|quote = Blatzheim in ihrer Jugend mit ihr schlafen wollte.}}</ref><br />
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==Early career==<br />
Romy Schneider's first film, made when she was 15, was ''[[Wenn der weiße Flieder wieder blüht]]'' (''When the White Lilacs Bloom Again'') in 1953, credited as Romy Schneider-Albach. In 1954, Schneider for the first time portrayed a royal, playing a young [[Queen Victoria]] in the Austrian film ''Mädchenjahre einer Königin'' (known in the U.S. as ''The Story of Vickie'' and in Britain as ''Victoria in Dover''). Schneider's breakthrough came with her portrayal of [[Empress Elisabeth of Austria]], in the romantic biopic ''[[Sissi (film)|Sissi]]'' (1955) and its two sequels, ''[[Sissi – The Young Empress]]'' (1956) and ''[[Sissi – Fateful Years of an Empress]]'' (1957), all with [[Karlheinz Böhm]], who became a close friend. Less stereotypical films during this busy period include ''[[:de:Robinson soll nicht sterben|Robinson soll nicht sterben]]'' (''The Legend of Robinson Crusoe'', 1957), working with a young [[Horst Buchholz]], and ''[[Monpti]]'' (1957), directed by [[Helmut Käutner]], again with Buchholz.<br />
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Schneider soon starred in ''[[Christine (1958 film)|Christine]]'' (1958), a [[remake]] of [[Max Ophüls]]'s 1933 film ''[[Liebelei (film)|Liebelei]]'' (itself based upon a play by [[Arthur Schnitzler]] and starring her mother Magda Schneider). It was during the filming of ''Christine'' that Schneider fell in love with French actor [[Alain Delon]], who co-starred in the movie. She left Germany to join him in Paris and they announced their engagement in 1959.<br />
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Schneider decided to live and to work in France, slowly gaining the interest of film directors such as [[Orson Welles]] for ''[[The Trial (1962 film)|The Trial]]'' (1962), based upon [[Franz Kafka]]'s ''[[The Trial]]'' and was introduced by Delon to [[Luchino Visconti]].<br />
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Under Visconti's direction, she gave performances in the [[Théâtre de Paris|Théâtre Moderne]] as Annabella (and Delon as Giovanni) in [[John Ford (dramatist)|John Ford]]'s stage play ''[['Tis Pity She's a Whore]]'' (1961) and in the film ''[[Boccaccio '70]]'' (segment: "The Job"). In 1962 Schneider played Anna in [[Sacha Pitoëff]]'s production of [[Anton Chekhov|Chekhov]]'s play ''[[The Seagull]]'', also at the Théâtre Moderne. A brief stint in [[Cinema of the United States|Hollywood]] included an appearance in ''[[Good Neighbor Sam]]'' (1964) a [[comedy film|comedy]] with [[Jack Lemmon]], while ''[[What's New Pussycat?]]'' (1965), although American financed, was shot in and around [[Paris]]. Schneider co-starred with [[Peter O'Toole]], [[Peter Sellers]] and [[Woody Allen]]; the film was made from his first screenplay.<br />
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Schneider and Delon decided to split up in 1963 although they remained close lifelong friends. They continued to work together in such films as ''[[La Piscine (film)|La Piscine]]'' (''The Swimming Pool'', 1968), which revitalized her career, and ''[[The Assassination of Trotsky]]'' (1972).<br />
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==Later career==<br />
[[File:Romy Schneider in Max et les Ferrailleurs.jpg|thumb|left|Schneider during the filming of ''Max et les Ferrailleurs'']]<br />
Schneider continued to work in France during the 1970s, most notably with director [[Claude Sautet]] on five films. Their first collaboration, ''[[The Things of Life]]'' (''Les choses de la vie'', 1970) with [[Michel Piccoli]], was a great success and made Schneider an icon in France. The three colleagues teamed up again for the [[Film noir|noir]] thriller ''[[Max et les Ferrailleurs]]'' (''Max and the Junkmen'', 1971), and she appeared with [[Yves Montand]] in Sautet's ''[[César and Rosalie|César et Rosalie]]'' (1972). Schneider portrayed Elisabeth of Austria again in ''[[Ludwig (film)|Ludwig]]'' (1972), Visconti's film about the life of King [[Ludwig II of Bavaria]]. This time she played the Empress as a much more complex, mature, even bitter woman. "Sissi sticks to me just like oatmeal", Schneider once said.<ref>{{cite web<br />
|url = http://www.wieninternational.at/de/node/4375/print<br />
|title = Romy Schneider – Bilder einer Ikone<br />
|accessdate = 19 December 2007<br />
|publisher = Compress VerlagsgesmbH & Co KG<br />
|language = German<br />
|quote = Sissi pappt an mir wie Griesbrei}}</ref><br />
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Other successes from this period included ''[[The Train (1973 film)|Le Train]]'' (1973), where she played a German-Jewish refugee in World War 2, [[Claude Chabrol]]'s thriller ''[[Innocents with Dirty Hands]]'' (''Les innocents aux mains sales'', 1975) with [[Rod Steiger]], and ''[[Le vieux fusil]]'' (1975). The gritty ''[[That Most Important Thing: Love]]'' (''L'important c'est d'aimer'', 1974) garnered her first [[César Award]] (France's equivalent of the Oscar), a feat she repeated five years later, in her last collaboration with Sautet, for ''[[A Simple Story (1978 film)|A Simple Story]]'' (''Une histoire simple'', 1978).<br />
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On 30 October 1974, Schneider created one of the most memorable moments on German television. She was the second guest on [[Dietmar Schönherr]]'s talk show ''Je später der Abend'' (''The Later the Evening'') when she, after a rather terse interview, remarked passionately to the last guest, bank robber and author [[:de:Burkhard Driest|Burkhard Driest]]: "Sie gefallen mir. Sie gefallen mir sehr." (I like you. I like you a lot.)<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.stern.de/kultur/tv/kuehn-kuckt-die-tv-kolumne-und-retten-kann-uns-nur-heinz-schenk-594954.html|title=Und retten kann uns nur Heinz Schenk|date=9 August 2007|accessdate=26 March 2011|publisher=''[[Stern (magazine)|Stern]]''|language=German}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/kino/0,1518,druck-484146,00.html|title=Die Berührbare|accessdate=14 February 2008|last=Beier|first=Lars-Olav|date=23 May 2007|publisher=''[[Der Spiegel]]''|language=German}}</ref><ref>{{YouTube|aSV91Opw4d0|''Je später der Abend'': Burkhard Driest and Romy Schneider}}, (October 1974, 29 seconds) {{De icon}}</ref><br />
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She also acted in ''Le Trio infernal'' (1974) with [[Michel Piccoli]], and in ''[[Garde à vue]]'' (1981) with [[Michel Serrault]] and [[Lino Ventura]]. An unpleasant incident occurred during this period with leading German film director [[Rainer Werner Fassbinder]] who wanted her to play the lead in his film ''[[The Marriage of Maria Braun]]'' (1979). Negotiations broke down when he called Schneider a "dumb cow",<ref>Derek Malcolm [http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/1999/jan/28/derekmalcolmscenturyoffilm.derekmalcolm "Rainer Werner Fassbinder: The Marriage of Maria Braun"], ''The Guardian'', 28 January 1999. Retrieved 2 March 2009.</ref> to which Schneider responded by declaring she would never work with such a "beast". Fassbinder cast [[Hanna Schygulla]] instead, reviving his professional association with an actress to whom he had also been offensive.<br />
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Schneider starred in [[Bertrand Tavernier]]'s ''[[Death Watch]]'' (''La mort en direct'', 1980) playing a dying woman whose last days are watched on national television via a camera implanted in the brain of a journalist ([[Harvey Keitel]]). It is based on [[David G. Compton]]'s novel, Her last film was ''[[The Passerby (1982 film)|La Passante du Sans-Souci]]'' (''The Passerby'', 1982).<br />
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==Personal life and death==<br />
In July 1966, following the end of her relationship with Delon, Schneider married German director and actor [[Harry Meyen]] (1924–1979). The couple had a son, David Christopher (3 December 1966 &ndash; 5 July 1981) but later divorced. Meyen committed suicide in Hamburg, Germany in 1979. In 1975, Schneider married Daniel Biasini, her private secretary; they separated in 1981. Their daughter [[Sarah Biasini|Sarah Magdalena]] (born 21 July 1977) is now an actress.<br />
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[[File:Boissy-sans-Avoir Tombe Romy Schneider.JPG|thumb|upright|Grave of Romy&nbsp;Schneider and her son in Boissy-sans-Avoir]] David, her son, died at the age of 14 after attempting to climb the spiked fence at his stepfather's parents' home, but punctured his [[femoral artery]] in the process. Schneider began drinking alcohol excessively after the death of David. When she was found dead in her apartment in Paris on 29 May 1982, it was suggested that she had committed suicide by taking a lethal cocktail of alcohol and [[Sedative|sleeping pills]]. After another [[Autopsy|post-mortem]] examination was carried out, authorities declared that she had died from cardiac arrest. Her tombstone at [[Boissy-sans-Avoir]] in the [[Canton of Montfort-l'Amaury]] bears the name Rosemarie Albach. Shortly afterwards, [[Alain Delon]] arranged for David to be buried in the same grave.<ref>{{cite journal<br />
|last = Delon<br />
|first = Alain<br />
|authorlink = Alain Delon<br />
|title = Adieu ma puppelé<br />
|journal = [[Paris Match]]<br />
|issue = #1724<br />
|url = http://merveilleuseromy.typepad.fr/inoubliableromy/2009/03/adieu-ma-puppel%C3%A9.html<br />
|accessdate = 24 September 2009<br />
|date = 11 June 1982<br />
|language = French<br />
|laysummary =<br />
|laysource = }}</ref><br />
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==Enduring popularity==<br />
[[File:5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|thumb|Romy Schneider, by [[Arnaud Courlet de Vregille]] (1975, Pencil, 21 x 29 cm)]]<br />
The French journalist Eugène Moineau initiated in 1984 the [[Prix Romy Schneider]]; this prize&mdash;the most prestigious award for promising actresses in the [[Cinema of France|French film industry]]&mdash;is awarded by a jury each year in Paris in conjunction with the Prix [[Patrick Dewaere]] (formerly the Prix [[Jean Gabin]]). In 1990, the Austrian newspaper ''[[Kurier]]'' created the [[Romy (TV award)|Romy TV Award]] in honour of Schneider. In 2003, she was voted 78th on the list of the greatest Germans in the German TV programme [[Unsere Besten]] (the German version of [[100 Greatest Britons]])&mdash;the second highest ranked actress ([[Marlene Dietrich]] was 50th) on that list. Until 2002, the [[Austrian Federal Railways]] [[InterCity#Austria|InterCity]] service IC 535 from [[Wien Südbahnhof]] to [[Graz]] was named "Romy Schneider".<ref>[http://www.bahnnews-austria.at/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249&sid=1ecea6a9473085f4583d9969742b1e7d "Neues Kursbuch"] by Thomas Pröglhöf, 23 November 2002 {{De icon}}</ref><ref>[http://www.parlament.gv.at/PG/DE/XXI/AB/AB_04258/daten_000000.doc "Question on Notice"], Austrian Department for Traffic, Innovation and Technology, 31 December 2002 {{De icon}}</ref><ref>[[:it:Romy Schneider (treno)|Romy Schneider (Train)]] {{It icon}}</ref><br />
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A movie about Schneider's life, titled ''Eine Frau wie Romy/Une femme comme Romy'' (''A Woman Like Romy'') was planned by [[Warner Bros.]] for 2009; Schneider's role was going to be played by [[Yvonne Catterfeld]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/kino/0,1518,druck-534779,00.html|title=Ein Soap-Sternchen gibt den Weltstar|last=Sander|first=Daniel|work=[[Der Spiegel]]|date=12 February 2008|accessdate=14 February 2008|language=German}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/yvonne-catterfeld-spielt-romy-schneider-ich-hatte-eine-gaensehaut-1.274392|title=Ich hatte eine Gänsehaut|work=[[Süddeutsche Zeitung]]|date=12 February 2008|accessdate=26 March 2011}}</ref> The project was cancelled in July 2009.<ref>[http://www.focus.de/kultur/kino_tv/romy-schneider-film-catterfeld-sagt-projekt-ab_aid_420863.html?drucken=1 "Catterfeld sagt Projekt ab"], ''[[Focus (German magazine)|Focus]]'', 27 July 2009 {{De icon}}</ref> A musical about Schneider, ''Romy – Die Welt aus Gold'' (''Romy – The Golden World'') was premiered in 2009 at the Theater [[Heilbronn]].<ref>[http://www.theater-heilbronn.de/12.html?&user_spielplan_pi1%5Btype%5D=SINGLE&user_spielplan_pi1%5Buid%5D=175 ''Romy – Die Welt aus Gold''] {{De icon}}</ref> In November 2009 the [[ARD (broadcaster)|ARD]] broadcast the feature film ''Romy'' with [[Jessica Schwarz]] in the title role.<ref>[http://www.swr.de/romy/romy_der_film/ ''Romy'' – the movie] at [[Südwestrundfunk]] {{De icon}}</ref><br />
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==Filmography==<br />
{|class="wikitable"<br />
!Title||Year||Role||Director<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Wenn der weiße Flieder wieder blüht]]''||1953||Evchen Förster||[[Hans Deppe]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Mädchenjahre einer Königin (1954)|Mädchenjahre einer Königin]]''||1954||Princess Victoria / Queen Victoria||[[Ernst Marischka]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Feuerwerk]]''||1954||Anna Oberholzer||[[Paul Burkhard]], [[Erik Charell]], and [[Kurt Hoffmann]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:fr:Mon premier amour (film, 1955)|Der letzte Mann]]''||1955||Niddy Hoevelmann||[[Harald Braun]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Die Deutschmeister|Die Deutschmeister]]''||1955||Stanzi Hübner||Ernst Marischka<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Sissi (film)|Sissi]]''||1955||[[Empress Elisabeth of Austria|Sissi]]||Ernst Marischka<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:fr:Kitty à la conquête du monde|Kitty und die große Welt]]''||1956||Kitty Dupont||[[Alfred Weidenmann]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Sissi – The Young Empress|Sissi – Die junge Kaiserin]]''||1956||Sissi||Ernst Marischka<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Sissi – Fateful Years of an Empress|Sissi – Schicksalsjahre einer Kaiserin]]''||1957||Sissi||Ernst Marischka<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Robinson soll nicht sterben|Robinson soll nicht sterben]]''||1957||Maud||[[Josef von Báky]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Love from Paris]]'' (''Monpti'')||1957||Anne-Claire Jouvain||[[Helmut Käutner]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Eva (1958 film)|Eva]]'' (''Die Halbzarte'')||1958|| Nicole||[[Rolf Thiele]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Scampolo]]''||1958||Scampolo||Alfred Weidenmann<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Mädchen in Uniform (1958 film)|Mädchen in Uniform'']]||1958||Manuela von Meinhardis||[[Géza von Radványi]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Christine (1958 film)|Christine]]''||1958||Christine Weiring||[[Pierre Gaspard-Huit]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Katja, die ungekrönte Kaiserin|Katia]]''||1959||[[Catherine Dolgorukov|Katia]]||[[Robert Siodmak]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Die schöne Lügnerin|Die schöne Lügnerin]]''||1959||Fanny Emmetsrieder||[[Axel von Ambesser]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Ein Engel auf Erden (Film)|Ein Engel auf Erden]]''||1959||Stewardess/Angel||[[Géza von Radványi]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Purple Noon]]'' (''Plein soleil'')||1960||Freddie's companion (uncredited)||[[René Clément]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Die Sendung der Lysistrata|Die Sendung der Lysistrata]]'' (TV)||1961||Myrrhine / Uschi||[[Fritz Kortner]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Boccaccio '70]]''||1961||Pupe (segment ''Il lavoro'')||[[Luchino Visconti]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:fr:Le Combat dans l'île|Le Combat dans l'île]]''||1962||Anne||[[Alain Cavalier]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[The Trial (1962 film)|The Trial]]''||1962|||Leni||[[Orson Welles]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[The Victors (film)|The Victors]]''||1962||Regine||[[Carl Foreman]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[The Cardinal]]''||1963||Annemarie von Hartman||[[Otto Preminger]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Good Neighbor Sam]]''||1964||Janet Lagerlof||[[David Swift (director)|David Swift]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[L'Enfer (Clouzot)|L'Enfer]]''||1964<ref group=F>''L'Enfer'' remained unfinished in 1964; it was released as ''L' Enfer de Henri-Georges Clouzot'' in 2009 by [[:fr:Serge Bromberg|Serge Bromberg]].</ref>||Odette||[[Henri-Georges Clouzot]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[L'Amour à la mer]]''||1965||The star||[[Guy Gilles]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Is Paris Burning?]]'' (''Paris brûle-t-il ?'')||1965||scene cut||René Clément<br />
|-<br />
|''[[What's New Pussycat?]]''||1965||Carole Werner||[[Clive Donner]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[10:30 P.M. Summer]]''||1965||Claire||[[Jules Dassin]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Schornstein Nr. 4|Schornstein Nr. 4]]'' (''La Voleuse'')||1966||Julia Kreuz||[[Jean Chapot]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Triple Cross (1966 film)|Triple Cross]]''||1966||Countess||[[Terence Young (director)|Terence Young]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Romy: Anatomy of a Face]]'' (''Romy. Porträt eines Gesichts'')||1967||Herself||[[Hans-Jürgen Syberberg]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Otley (film)|Otley]]''||1968||Imogen||[[Dick Clement]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[La Piscine (film)|The Swimming Pool]]''||1969||Marianne||[[Jacques Deray]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[La califfa]]'' ||1970||Irene Corsini||[[Alberto Bevilacqua]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[The Things of Life|Les choses de la vie]]''||1970||Hélène||[[Claude Sautet]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[My Lover My Son]]''||1970||Francesca Anderson||[[John Newland]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:fr:Qui ? (film, 1970)|Qui ?]]''||1970||Marina||[[:fr:Léonard Keigel|Léonard Keigel]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Bloomfield (film)|Bloomfield]]''||1971||Nira||[[Richard Harris]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[The Assassination of Trotsky]]''||1971||Gita Samuels||[[Joseph Losey]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Max et les Ferrailleurs]]''||1971||Lily||Claude Sautet<br />
|-<br />
|''[[César and Rosalie|César et Rosalie]]''||1972||Rosalie||Claude Sautet<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Ludwig (film)|Ludwig]]''||1972||Elisabeth of Austria||Luchino Visconti<br />
|-<br />
|''[[The Train (1973 film)|Le Train]]''||1973||Anna Kupfer||[[Pierre Granier-Deferre]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:fr:Un amour de pluie|Un amour de pluie]]''||1974||Elizabeth||[[Jean-Claude Brialy]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:fr:Le Trio infernal|Le Trio infernal]]''||1974||Philomena Schmidt||[[Francis Girod]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[L'important c'est d'aimer]]''||1974||Nadine Chevalier||[[Andrzej Żuławski]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:de:Le Mouton enragé|Le mouton enragé]]''||1974||Roberte Groult||[[Michel Deville]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Le vieux fusil]]''||1975||Clara Dandieu||[[Robert Enrico]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Innocents with Dirty Hands|Les innocents aux mains sales]]''||1975||Julie Wormser||[[Claude Chabrol]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:fr:Mado|Mado]]''||1976||Hélène||Claude Sautet<br />
|-<br />
|''[[A Woman at Her Window]]'' (''Une femme à sa fenêtre'')||1976||Margot Santorini||[[Pierre Granier-Deferre]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Group Portrait with Lady (film)|Gruppenbild mit Dame]]||1977||Leni Gruyten||[[Aleksandar Petrović (film director)|Aleksandar Petrović]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[A Simple Story (1978 film)|A Simple Story]]''||1978||Marie||Claude Sautet<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Bloodline (1979 film)|Bloodline]]''||1979||Hélène Martin||Terence Young<br />
|-<br />
|''[[:fr:Clair de femme (film)|Clair de femme]]''||1979||Lydia||[[Costa-Gavras]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[Death Watch]]''||1979||Katherine Mortenhoe||[[Bertrand Tavernier]]<br />
|-<br />
|''[[The Lady Banker|La Banquière]]''||1980||Emma Eckhert||[[Francis Girod]]<br />
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|''[[Fantasma d'amore]]''||1981||Anna Brigatti Zighi||[[Dino Risi]]<br />
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|''[[Garde à vue]]''||1981||Chantal Martinaud||[[Claude Miller]]<br />
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==Awards==<br />
[[File:Romy Schneider Marke.jpg|thumb|German stamp issued in 2000]]<br />
*[[Bambi Award|Bambi]]: 1957 nominated for ''[[Sissi (film)|Sissi]]''<br />
*[[Bravo Otto]]<br />
**1957: Bronze<br />
**1958: Gold<br />
**1959: Silver<br />
**1971: Silver<br />
**1972: Bronze<br />
**1977: Bronze<br />
*{{ill|fr|Étoile de Cristal}}: 1963 as Best Foreign Actress for ''[[The Trial (1962 film)|The Trial]]''<br />
*[[Golden Globe Award for Best Actress – Motion Picture Drama]]: 1963 nominated for ''[[The Cardinal]]''<br />
*[[César Award for Best Actress]]<br />
**[[1st César Awards|1975]]: won for ''[[L'important c'est d'aimer]]''<br />
**[[2nd César Awards|1976]]: nominated for ''[[:fr:Une femme à sa fenêtre|Une femme à sa fenêtre]]<br />
**[[4th César Awards|1978]]: won for ''[[A Simple Story (1978 film)|Une histoire simple]]''<br />
**[[5th César Awards|1979]]: nominated for ''[[:fr:Clair de femme|Clair de femme]]<br />
**[[8th César Awards|1982]]: nominated for ''[[The Passerby (1982 film)|La Passante du Sans-Souci]]''<br />
*[[Deutscher Filmpreis]] Best Actress: 1977 for ''[[Group Portrait with Lady (film)|Group Portrait with Lady]]''<br />
*[[David di Donatello|Premio David di Donatello]]: 1979 Lifetime Achievement<br />
*[[33rd César Awards|2008]]: [[Honorary César]]<br />
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===Awards named after Romy Schneider===<br />
*[[Prix Romy Schneider]], French film award established in 1984<br />
*[[Romy (TV award)|Romy]], Austrian award established in 1990<br />
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==References==<br />
{{Reflist|30em}}<br />
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===Literature===<br />
* Hans-Jürgen Tast: ''Romy Schneider – Ein Leben auf Titelseiten'' Schellerten 2008, ISBN 978-3-88842-036-8.<br />
* Michael Töteberg: ''Romy Schneider'', [[Rowohlt Verlag]] 2009, ISBN 978-3-499-50669-7<br />
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:These sorts of changes are not needed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hepatitis_C&diff=589369328&oldid=589229771] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hepatitis_C&diff=587537899&oldid=587355356] and if they are going to occur on a weekly basis we may need to shut this bot down. They are burying vandalism. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:34, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Change the template generated in the infobox for cite journal and cite ISBN if there are issues. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::{{ping|Jmh649}} I will give a detailed response on your talk page before restarting [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BattyBot 25|this task to fix date formatting]]. In the meantime, I will have the bot run an [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BattyBot 27|unrelated task to fix broken URLs]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 12:14, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Arnold Lupton==<br />
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== Dubious "fixes" of abbreviated months. ==<br />
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Yes, please stop this bot. I have wondered about some of these changes before, but changing "Sept." to "Sep" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siletzia&diff=589860868&oldid=589692996 this edit]) is pointless, even silly. And the double indirect link to a possible explanation is not satisfactory. If there is some rationale for this change please link to it directly. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 22:02, 9 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:{{ping|J. Johnson}} Now that you mention it, the edit summary can be improved. From now on, I'll use "''fixed [[:Category:CS1 errors: dates|CS1 errors: dates]] to meet [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] (also [[WP:AWB/GF|General fixes]])''" to better explain (within the limited available space) why the edits are neither pointless nor silly. I've provided more information on the task at [[User:BattyBot]]. Your input at [[Help talk:Citation Style 1]] before the {{red|Check date value}} messages are visible to all editors would be appreciated. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|J. Johnson}} On second thought, I'll use "''fixed [[Help:CS1_errors#bad_date|CS1 errors: dates]] to meet [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] (also [[WP:AWB/GF|General fixes]])''" - the first link goes to a simpler explanation. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::None of those links point to any discussion of why "Sep" is better than "Sept." This change is unjustified. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 22:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::See the third and fourth row in the [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] table. The notation "MMM" in the table indicates that month abbreviations should be three letters. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 23:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::[[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] also uses "Sep" as the example several times. If you would like to propose a change to the MOS, let's discuss at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers]]. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 23:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:What was the point of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=72_Days&diff=590231099&oldid=543689033 this edit]? Read the rules of use for AWB, esp. point 4. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 17:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|Lugnuts}} It removed the unnecessary dash at the beginning of {{para|accessdate|-2011-09-29}}. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:24, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Great. Now go and read the rules of use of AWB. Again. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 17:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Done. While removing a dash may seem "insignificant or inconsequential", it also removed the article from [[:Category:CS1 errors: dates]], fixed the [[WP:COinS]] output of the reference, and ensured that there won't be a {{red|Check date values}} error shown in the future. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::{{tps}} and even if none of the last three had applied, it would still have been a valid [[typo]] fix. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 19:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:1) As before: the link in your edit summary does ''not'' point to any discussion or text justifying the conversion of "Sept." to "Sep", not even to (quoting Jonesey95) "{{tq|the third and fourth row in the [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] table}}".<br />
:2) [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] lists ''acceptable date formats''. It does '''not''' require, recommend, suggest, or condone conversion of abbreviated months to "short month name". It does specify "[o]nly ... where conciseness is needed", which is not the case for edits you did. <br />
:3) "Sep" is certainly used as an example several times. But you seem to have missed the example in a following section — [[MOS:DATEUNIFY|Consistency]] — where the mixed use of (what a coincidence) of "Sep" and "September" is '''explictly rejected'''.<br />
:4) The proper correction for an abbreviated month, especially where the context already includes full month names generally, is — the ''full month name''. Your "correction" is inconsistent, and thus '''in'''correct. <br />
:Please desist from your ill-considered and incorrect edits. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 21:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|J. Johnson}} I will reply to your post on [[User talk:GoingBatty]], so that further conversation does not interrupt the running of [[User:BattyBot|unrelated BattyBot tasks]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:09, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::I think this dubious behavior qualifies as "broken". Until it is justified, fixed, or removed the bot should be interrupted. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 21:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::While we discuss BattyBot's task 25, BattyBot can run other tasks that are not associates with changing dates - see [[User:BattyBot]] for a complete list of tasks. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:47, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Excuse-me, I'm French so my English is verry bad.<br />
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I just would like to know why you deleted the "orphan banner" in the Wikipedia page of Arnaud Courlet de Vregille ? It's a good news for me because I am the creator of this page ; but I would like to know what happened for the acceptation of its deletion...<br />
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Thank you very much<br />
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How often is this bot going to be doing runs? When it edits I am unable to see the previous editor on my watchlist. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:30, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:These sorts of changes are not needed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hepatitis_C&diff=589369328&oldid=589229771] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hepatitis_C&diff=587537899&oldid=587355356] and if they are going to occur on a weekly basis we may need to shut this bot down. They are burying vandalism. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:34, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Change the template generated in the infobox for cite journal and cite ISBN if there are issues. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::{{ping|Jmh649}} I will give a detailed response on your talk page before restarting [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BattyBot 25|this task to fix date formatting]]. In the meantime, I will have the bot run an [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BattyBot 27|unrelated task to fix broken URLs]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 12:14, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. I am a content editor and care little about the ordering of the date. These are minor tasks. The issue is if they are interfering with more important surveillance. Can you bundle tasks together such that the bot is only run once a quarter? [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:39, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Arnold Lupton==<br />
Plesae check references for Arnold Lupton page <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/121.219.96.225|121.219.96.225]] ([[User talk:121.219.96.225|talk]]) 11:50, 6 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dubious "fixes" of abbreviated months. ==<br />
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Yes, please stop this bot. I have wondered about some of these changes before, but changing "Sept." to "Sep" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siletzia&diff=589860868&oldid=589692996 this edit]) is pointless, even silly. And the double indirect link to a possible explanation is not satisfactory. If there is some rationale for this change please link to it directly. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 22:02, 9 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:{{ping|J. Johnson}} Now that you mention it, the edit summary can be improved. From now on, I'll use "''fixed [[:Category:CS1 errors: dates|CS1 errors: dates]] to meet [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] (also [[WP:AWB/GF|General fixes]])''" to better explain (within the limited available space) why the edits are neither pointless nor silly. I've provided more information on the task at [[User:BattyBot]]. Your input at [[Help talk:Citation Style 1]] before the {{red|Check date value}} messages are visible to all editors would be appreciated. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|J. Johnson}} On second thought, I'll use "''fixed [[Help:CS1_errors#bad_date|CS1 errors: dates]] to meet [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] (also [[WP:AWB/GF|General fixes]])''" - the first link goes to a simpler explanation. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::None of those links point to any discussion of why "Sep" is better than "Sept." This change is unjustified. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 22:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::See the third and fourth row in the [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] table. The notation "MMM" in the table indicates that month abbreviations should be three letters. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 23:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::[[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] also uses "Sep" as the example several times. If you would like to propose a change to the MOS, let's discuss at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers]]. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 23:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:What was the point of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=72_Days&diff=590231099&oldid=543689033 this edit]? Read the rules of use for AWB, esp. point 4. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 17:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|Lugnuts}} It removed the unnecessary dash at the beginning of {{para|accessdate|-2011-09-29}}. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:24, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Great. Now go and read the rules of use of AWB. Again. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 17:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Done. While removing a dash may seem "insignificant or inconsequential", it also removed the article from [[:Category:CS1 errors: dates]], fixed the [[WP:COinS]] output of the reference, and ensured that there won't be a {{red|Check date values}} error shown in the future. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::{{tps}} and even if none of the last three had applied, it would still have been a valid [[typo]] fix. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 19:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:GoingBatty:<br />
:1) As before: the link in your edit summary does ''not'' point to any discussion or text justifying the conversion of "Sept." to "Sep", not even to (quoting Jonesey95) "{{tq|the third and fourth row in the [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] table}}".<br />
:2) [[MOS:DATEFORMAT]] lists ''acceptable date formats''. It does '''not''' require, recommend, suggest, or condone conversion of abbreviated months to "short month name". It does specify "[o]nly ... where conciseness is needed", which is not the case for edits you did. <br />
:3) "Sep" is certainly used as an example several times. But you seem to have missed the example in a following section — [[MOS:DATEUNIFY|Consistency]] — where the mixed use of (what a coincidence) of "Sep" and "September" is '''explictly rejected'''.<br />
:4) The proper correction for an abbreviated month, especially where the context already includes full month names generally, is — the ''full month name''. Your "correction" is inconsistent, and thus '''in'''correct. <br />
:Please desist from your ill-considered and incorrect edits. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 21:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|J. Johnson}} I will reply to your post on [[User talk:GoingBatty]], so that further conversation does not interrupt the running of [[User:BattyBot|unrelated BattyBot tasks]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:09, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::I think this dubious behavior qualifies as "broken". Until it is justified, fixed, or removed the bot should be interrupted. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 21:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::While we discuss BattyBot's task 25, BattyBot can run other tasks that are not associates with changing dates - see [[User:BattyBot]] for a complete list of tasks. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:47, 12 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Orphan page ==<br />
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Hi Batty Bot,<br />
<br />
Excuse-me, I'm French so my English is verry bad.<br />
<br />
I just would like to know why you deleted the "orphan banner" in the Wikipedia page of Arnaud Courlet de Vregille ? It's a good news for me because I am the creator of this page ; but I would like to know what happened for the acceptation of its deletion...<br />
<br />
Thank you very much</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Auguste_and_Louis_Lumi%C3%A8re&diff=590718703Auguste and Louis Lumière2014-01-14T20:52:35Z<p>Drapé: /* First film screenings */</p>
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| parents = Claude-Antoine Lumière (1840–1910)<br />
| awards = [[Elliott Cresson Medal]] (1909)<br />
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The '''Lumière''' ({{IPA-fr|lymjɛːʁ|pron}}) brothers, '''Auguste Marie Louis Nicolas''' {{IPA-fr|oɡyst maʁi lwi nikɔla|}} (19 October 1862, [[Besançon]], [[France]] &ndash; 10 April 1954, [[Lyon]]) and '''Louis Jean''' {{IPA-fr|lwi ʒɑ̃|}} (5 October 1864, [[Besançon]], [[France]] &ndash; 6 June 1948, [[Bandol]]),<ref>{{cite news |first= |last= |authorlink= |coauthors= |title=Louis Lumière, 83, A Screen Pioneer. Credited in France With The Invention of Motion Picture. |url=http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50715FF3A5F167B93C5A9178DD85F4C8485F9 |quote= |publisher=''New York Times'' |date=7 June 1948 |accessdate=2008-04-29 }}</ref><ref>{{cite news |first= |last= |authorlink= |coauthors= |title=Died. |url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,854930,00.html |quote=Louis Lumière, 83, wealthy motion-picture and color-photography pioneer, whom (with his brother Auguste) Europeans generally credit with inventing the cinema; of a heart ailment; in Bandol, France. |publisher=[[Time (magazine)]] |date= 14 June 1948 |accessdate=2008-04-29 }}</ref> were the earliest [[film director|filmmakers]] in history. Appropriately, "lumière" translates as "light" in English.{{cn|date=January 2014}}<br />
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==History==<br />
The Lumière brothers were born in [[Besançon]], [[France]], in 1862 and 1864, and moved to [[Lyon]] in 1870, where both attended [[La Martiniere Lyon|La Martiniere]], the largest technical school in Lyon.<ref>{{cite book | title = Motion Pictures | author = Gina De Angelis | publisher = The Oliver Press | year = 2003 | isbn = 978-1-881508-78-6 | url = http://books.google.com/books?id=daHmkclqERYC&pg=PA34&dq=Lumi%C3%A8re+Besan%C3%A7on+Lyon&lr=&as_brr=3&as_pt=ALLTYPES&ei=eqdfSaiYK4PAlQTF4tj7BQ#PPA34,M1 }}</ref> Their father, Claude-Antoine Lumière (1840–1911), ran a [[History of the camera|photographic]] firm and both brothers worked for him: Louis as a physicist and Auguste as a manager. Louis had made some improvements to the still-photograph process, the most notable being the dry-plate process, which was a major step towards moving images.<br />
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It was not until their father retired in 1892 that the brothers began to create moving pictures. They patented a number of significant processes leading up to their film camera, most notably [[film perforations]] (originally implemented by [[Emile Reynaud]]) as a means of advancing the film through the camera and projector. The original [[cinématographe]] had been patented by [[Léon Guillaume Bouly]] on 12 February 1892.<ref>{{cite news |first= |last= |authorlink= |coauthors= |title=Brevet FR 219.350 |url=http://cinematographes.free.fr/bouly-219350.html |quote= |publisher=''Cinematographes'' |date= |accessdate=2013-12-11}}</ref> The brothers patented their own version on 13 February 1895.<ref>{{cite news |first= |last= |authorlink= |coauthors= |title=Brevet FR 245.032 |url=http://cinematographes.free.fr/lumiere-245032.html |quote= |publisher=''Cinematographes'' |date= |accessdate=2013-12-11}}</ref> The first footage ever to be recorded using it was recorded on March 19, 1895. This first film shows workers leaving the Lumière factory.<br />
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==First film screenings==<br />
The Lumières held their first private screening of projected motion pictures in 1895.<ref>Chardère (1985), p.71. This first screening on March 22, 1895 took place in Paris, at the "Society for the Development of the National Industry", in front of an audience of 200 people – among which [[Léon Gaumont]], then director of the Comptoir de la photographie. The main focus of this conference by Louis Lumière were the recent developments in the photograph industry, mainly the research on polychromy (color photography). It was much to Lumière's surprise that the moving black-and-white images retained more attention than the colored stills photographs.</ref> Their first public screening of films at which admission was charged was held on December 28, 1895, at [[Salon Indien du Grand Café]] in Paris.<ref>[http://www.universalis.fr/encyclopedie/presentation-du-cinematographe-lumiere/ December 28, 1895.]</ref> This history-making presentation featured ten short films, including their first film, ''[[Workers Leaving the Lumière Factory|Sortie des Usines Lumière à Lyon]]'' (''Workers Leaving the Lumière Factory'').<ref>[http://www.institut-lumiere.org/francais/films/1seance/accueil.html "La première séance publique payante", Institut Lumière]</ref> Each film is 17 meters long, which, when hand cranked through a projector, runs approximately 50 seconds.<br />
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[[Image:Cinématographe Lumière.jpg|thumb|right|190px|The world's first film poster, for 1895's ''[[L'Arroseur arrosé]]'']] It is believed their first film was actually recorded that same year (1895)<ref>Chardère (1987), p.70: The date of the recording of their first film is in dispute. In an interview with Georges Sadoul given in 1948, Louis Lumière tells that he shot the film in August 1894. This is questioned by historians (Sadoul, Pinel, Chardère) who consider that a functional Lumière camera didn't exist before the end of 1894, and that their first film was recorded March 19th 1895, and then publicly projected March 22nd at the Société d'encouragement pour l'industrie nationale in Paris.</ref> with [[Léon Bouly]]'s [[cinematographe|cinématographe]] device, which was patented the previous year. The cinématographe — a three-in-one device that could record, develop, and project [[film|motion picture]]s — was further developed by the Lumières.<br />
[[File:Lumière ou Projection privée.jpg|thumb|default|''Lumière ou Projection privée'', by [[Arnaud Courlet de Vregille]] exposé dans l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]] (2010, acrylic, 120 x 90 cm)]]<br />
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The public debut at the Grand Café came a few months later and consisted of the following ten short films (in order of presentation):<ref>[http://www.institut-lumiere.org/francais/films/1seance/accueil.html Bienvenue sur Adobe GoLive 4]. Institut-lumiere.org. Retrieved on 2013-08-16.</ref><br />
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#''[[Workers Leaving the Lumière Factory|La Sortie de l'Usine Lumière à Lyon]]'' (literally, "the exit from the Lumière factory in Lyon", or, under its more common English title, ''Workers Leaving the Lumiere Factory''), 46 seconds<br />
#''Le Jardinier ([[l'Arroseur Arrosé]])'' ("The Gardener," or "The Sprinkler Sprinkled"), 49 seconds<br />
#''[[The Photographical Congress Arrives in Lyon|Le Débarquement du Congrès de Photographie à Lyon]]'' ("the disembarkment of the Congress of Photographers in Lyon"), 48 seconds<br />
#''[[La Voltige]]'' ("Horse Trick Riders"), 46 seconds<br />
#''[[La Pêche aux poissons rouges]]'' ("fishing for goldfish"), 42 seconds<br />
#''[[Les Forgerons]]'' ("Blacksmiths"), 49 seconds<br />
#''[[Repas de bébé]]'' ("Baby's Breakfast" (lit. "baby's meal")), 41 seconds<br />
#''[[Le Saut à la couverture]]'' ("Jumping Onto the Blanket"), 41 seconds<br />
#''[[Place des Cordeliers à Lyon|La Places des Cordeliers à Lyon]]'' ("Cordeliers Square in Lyon"—a street scene), 44 seconds<br />
#''[[La Mer (film)|La Mer (Baignade en mer)]]'' ("the sea [bathing in the sea]"), 38 seconds<br />
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The Lumières went on tour with the cinématographe in 1896, visiting [[Bombay]], [[London]], [[Montreal]], [[New York]] and [[Buenos Aires]].<br />
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The moving images had an immediate and significant influence on popular culture with ''[[L'Arrivée d'un Train en Gare de la Ciotat]]'' (literally, "the arrival of a train at La Ciotat", but more commonly known as ''Arrival of a Train at a Station'') and ''[[Carmaux, défournage du coke]]'' (Drawing out the coke). Their [[actuality film]]s, or ''actualités'', are often cited as the first, primitive [[documentaries]]. They also made the first steps towards comedy film with the slapstick of ''[[L'Arroseur Arrosé]]''.<br />
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==Early color photography==<br />
[[Image:LumiereAlgerijnen.jpg|thumb|left|Autochrome color picture by Jean-Baptiste Tournassoud of North-African soldiers, Oise, France, 1917.[http://www.greatwar.nl/frames/default-color.html link]]]<br />
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The brothers stated that "the [[film|cinema]] is an [[invention]] without any future" and declined to sell their camera to other filmmakers such as [[Georges Méliès]]. This made many film makers upset. Consequently, their role in the history of film was exceedingly brief. They turned their attentions to colour photography and in 1903 they patented a colour photography process, the "[[Autochrome Lumière]]", launched on the market in 1907. Throughout much of the 20th century, the Lumière company was a major producer of photographic products in Europe, but the brand name, Lumière, disappeared from the marketplace following merger with [[Ilford Photo|Ilford]](ref [http://sdx.rhonealpes.fr/sdx/sribzh/main.xsp?execute=show_document&id=MERIMEEIA69000030 City of Lyon Document)].<br />
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==Other early cinematographers==<br />
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The Lumière Brothers were not the only ones to claim the title of the first cinematographers. The scientific [[chronophotography]] devices developed by [[Eadweard Muybridge]], [[Étienne-Jules Marey]] and [[Ottomar Anschütz]] in the 1880s were able to produce moving photographs, as was [[Thomas Edison]]'s [[Kinetoscope]], premiered in 1891. Since 1892, the projected drawings of [[Émile Reynaud]]'s [[Théâtre Optique]] were attracting Paris crowds to the Museé Grevin. [[Louis Le Prince]] and [[Claude Mechant]] had been shooting moving picture sequences on paper film as soon as 1888, but had never performed a public demonstration. Polish inventor, [[Kazimierz Prószyński]] had built his camera and projecting device, called [[Pleograph]], in 1894. [[Max Skladanowsky|Max and Emil Skladanowsky]], inventors of the [[Bioskope]], had offered projected moving images to a paying public one month earlier (November 1, 1895, in [[Berlin]]). Nevertheless, film historians consider the Grand Café screening to be the true birth of the cinema as a commercial medium, because the Skladanowsky brothers' screening used an extremely impractical dual system motion picture projector that was immediately supplanted by the Lumiere cinematographe.<br />
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Although the Lumière brothers were not the first inventors to develop techniques to create motion pictures, they are often credited as one of the first inventors of the technology for Cinema as a mass medium, and are among the first who understood how to use it.<br />
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==See also==<br />
[[File:Lumière House Lyon.jpg|right|thumb|Their house in [[Lyon, France]], is now the Institut Lumière museum.]]<br />
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*[[1895 in film]]<br />
*[[1896 in film]]<br />
*[[19th century in film]]<br />
*[[History of film]]<br />
*[[L'Idéal Cinéma - Jacques Tati]] in [[Aniche]] the oldest cinéma- still active -in the world since November 23, 1905.<br />
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==References==<br />
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==Further reading==<br />
* Chardère, B.; Borgé, G. and M. (1985). ''Les Lumière'', Paris: Bibliothèque des Arts. ISBN 2-85047-068-6 (Language: French)<br />
* Chardère, B. (1995). ''Les images des Lumière'', Paris: Gallimard. ISBN 2-07-011462-7 (Language: French)<br />
*{{Cite book | last = Cook | first = David | authorlink = David A. Cook | year = 2004 | title = A History of Narrative Film | edition = 4th ed. | publisher = W. W. Norton | location = New York | isbn = 0-393-97868-0}}<br />
* Lavédrine, Bertrand and Gandolfo, Jean-Paul. (2013). ''The Lumière Autochrome: History, Technology, and Preservation'', Los Angeles: Getty Publications. ISBN 978-1-60606-125-1<br />
* Rittaud-Hutinet, Jacques. (1985). ''Le cinéma des origines'', Seyssel: Champ Vallon. ISBN 2-903528-43-8 (Language: French)<br />
*{{Cite book | last = Mast | first = Gerald | authorlink = Gerald Mast | coauthors = and Bruce F. Kawin | year = 2006 | title = A Short History of the Movies | edition = 9th ed. | publisher = Pearson Longman | location = New York | isbn = 0-321-26232-8}}<br />
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*[http://www.institut-lumiere.org/francais/films/1seance/accueil.html The films shown at the first public screening] (QuickTime format) — December 28, 1895. Also includes a program for the event.<br />
*[http://www.institut-lumiere.org/ Le musée Lumière] — Lumière Museum<br />
*[http://www.luminous-lint.com/app/image/446412017488925809656003/ autochrome color still of the ''Lumiere Brothers'' , 1907]<br />
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'''''The Picture of Dorian Gray''''' is the only published novel by [[Oscar Wilde]], appearing as the lead story in ''[[Lippincott's Monthly Magazine]]'' on 20 June 1890, printed as the July 1890 issue of this magazine.<ref name="Penguin Intro pg ix">''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' (Penguin Classics) – Introduction</ref> The magazine's editors feared the story was indecent as submitted, so they censored roughly 500 words, without Wilde's knowledge, before publication. But even with that, the story was still greeted with outrage by British reviewers, some of whom suggested that Wilde should be prosecuted on moral grounds, leading Wilde to defend the novel aggressively in letters to the British press. Wilde later revised the story for book publication, making substantial alterations, deleting controversial passages, adding new chapters and including an [[Aphorism|aphoristic]] Preface which has since become famous in its own right. The amended version was published by [[Ward Lock & Co|Ward, Lock and Company]] in April 1891.<ref name="Publish">[http://www.turksheadreview.com/library/notes-doriangray.html Notes on The Picture of Dorian Gray] – An overview of the text, sources, influences, themes and a summary of ''The Picture of Dorian Gray''</ref> Some scholars believe that Wilde would today have wanted us to read the version he originally submitted to Lippincott's.<ref>[http://withgoodreasonradio.org/2012/07/the-censorship-of-dorian-gray-2/ With Good Reason radio show, "The Censorship of 'Dorian Gray' "]</ref><br />
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The novel tells of a young man named Dorian Gray, the subject of a painting by artist Basil Hallward. Basil is impressed by Dorian's beauty and becomes infatuated with him, believing his beauty is responsible for a new mode in his art. Dorian meets Lord Henry Wotton, a friend of Basil's, and becomes enthralled by Lord Henry's world view. Espousing a new [[hedonism]], Lord Henry suggests the only things worth pursuing in life are beauty and fulfilment of the senses. Realizing that one day his beauty will fade, Dorian (whimsically) expresses a desire to sell his soul to ensure the portrait Basil has painted would age rather than he. Dorian's wish is fulfilled, and when he subsequently pursues a life of debauchery, the portrait serves as a reminder of the effect each act has upon his [[soul]], with each [[sin]] displayed as a disfigurement of his form, or through a sign of aging.<ref name="gutenberg_20_1">[http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/174 The Picture of Dorian Gray] (Project Gutenberg 20-chapter version), line 3479 et seq in plain text (chapter VII).</ref><br />
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''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' is considered a work of classic [[Gothic fiction]] with a strong [[Faust]]ian [[#Themes|theme]].<ref name="Gothic Horror">[http://www.glbtq.com/literature/ghost_horror.html Ghost and Horror Fiction] – a website which discusses ghost and [[horror fiction]] from the 19th century onwards (retrieved 30 July 2006)</ref><br />
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==Plot==<br />
The novel begins on a beautiful summer day with Lord Henry Wotton, a strongly-opinionated man, observing the sensitive artist Basil Hallward painting the portrait of a handsome young man named Dorian Gray, who is Basil's ultimate [[muse]]. After hearing Lord Henry's world view, Dorian begins to think beauty is the only worthwhile aspect of life. He wishes that the portrait Basil painted would grow old in his place. Under the influence of Lord Henry (who relishes the hedonic lifestyle and is a major exponent thereof), Dorian begins to explore his senses. He discovers amazing actress Sibyl Vane, who performs [[Shakespeare]] plays in a dingy theatre. Dorian approaches her and soon proposes marriage. Sibyl, who refers to him as "Prince Charming", swoons with happiness, but her protective brother James tells her that if "Prince Charming" harms her, he will certainly kill him.<br />
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Dorian invites Basil and Lord Henry to see Sibyl perform in ''[[Romeo and Juliet]]''. Sibyl, whose only knowledge of love was love of theatre, casts aside her acting abilities through the experience of true love with Dorian. Disheartened, Dorian rejects her, saying her beauty was in her acting, and he is no longer interested in her. When he returns home, he notices that his portrait has changed. Dorian realises his wish has come true – the portrait now bears a subtle sneer and will age with each sin he commits, while his own appearance remains unchanged.<br />
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He decides to reconcile with Sibyl, but Lord Henry later informs him that she has killed herself by swallowing [[prussic acid]]. Dorian realises that lust and looks are where his life is headed and he needs nothing else. Over the next 18 years, he experiments with every vice, mostly under the influence of a "poisonous" French decadence novel, a present from Lord Henry. The title is never revealed in the novel, but at Oscar Wilde's trial he admitted that he had 'had in mind' [[Joris-Karl Huysmans]]'s ''[[À Rebours]]'' ('Against Nature').<ref name="A Rebours">''Oscar Wilde: Art and Morality (Illustrated Edition)'', ed. by Stuart Mason (Fairford: Echo Library, 2011), p. 63</ref><br />
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[[File:Doriangray 1945.jpg|thumb|Dorian faces his portrait in the 1945 film ''[[The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945 film)|The Picture of Dorian Gray]]'']]<br />
One night, before he leaves for Paris, Basil arrives to question Dorian about rumours of his indulgences. Dorian does not deny his debauchery. He takes Basil to the portrait, which is as hideous as Dorian's sins. In anger, Dorian blames Basil for his fate and stabs Basil to death. He then blackmails an old friend named Alan Campbell, a chemist, into destroying Basil's body. Wishing to escape the guilt of his crime, Dorian travels to an [[opium den]]. James Vane is present there and attempts to shoot Dorian after he hears someone refer to Dorian as "Prince Charming". However, Dorian fools James into thinking he is too young to have been involved with Sibyl 18 years earlier. James releases Dorian but is approached by a woman from the opium den who chastises him for not killing Dorian, revealing Dorian has not aged for 18 years. James attempts to run after him, only to find Dorian long gone.<br />
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While at dinner, Dorian sees James stalking the grounds and fears for his life. However, during a game-shooting party a few days later, a lurking James is accidentally shot and killed by one of the hunters. After returning to London, Dorian tells Lord Henry that he will be good from now on, and has started by not breaking the heart of his latest innocent conquest named Hetty Merton. Dorian wonders if the portrait has begun to change back, now that he has given up his immoral ways. He unveils the portrait to find it has become worse. Seeing this, he realises that the motives behind his "self-sacrifice" were merely vanity, curiosity, and the quest for new emotional experiences.<br />
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Deciding that only full [[Confession (religion)|confession]] will [[absolve]] him, he decides to destroy the last vestige of his conscience. In a rage, he picks up the knife that killed Basil Hallward and plunges it into the painting. His servants wake hearing a cry from inside the locked room, and passers by on the street fetch the police. The servants find Dorian's body, stabbed in the heart and suddenly aged, withered and horrible. It is only through the rings on his hand that the corpse can be identified. Beside him, however, the portrait has reverted to its original form.<br />
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== Characters ==<br />
[[File:Doriangray.jpg|thumb|upright|Basil and Lord Henry survey the portrait of Dorian.]]<br />
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In a letter, Wilde said the main characters were reflections of himself: "Basil Hallward is what I think I am: Lord Henry is what the world thinks me: Dorian is what I would like to be—in other ages, perhaps".<ref name="The Modern Library Gray">[http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780553901672 The Modern Library] – a synopsis of the book coupled with a short biography of [[Oscar Wilde]] (retrieved 3 November 2009)</ref><br />
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The main characters are:<br />
* '''Dorian Gray''' – a handsome and [[narcissistic]] young man who becomes enthralled with Lord Henry's idea of a new [[hedonism]]. He begins to indulge in every kind of pleasure, moral and immoral, which eventually leads to his own societal demise.<br />
* '''Basil Hallward''' – an artist who becomes infatuated with Dorian. Dorian helps Hallward realise his artistic potential, as Basil's portrait of Dorian proves to be his finest work. A deeply moral man, he is later murdered by Gray.<br />
* '''Lord Henry "Harry" Wotton''' – an imperious and decadent [[dandy]] who is a friend to Basil initially, but later becomes more intrigued with Dorian's beauty. Extremely witty, he is seen as a [[critique]] of [[Victorian era#Culture|Victorian culture]] at the [[Fin de siècle|end of the century]], espousing a view of indulgent hedonism. He conveys to Gray his world view, and Dorian becomes corrupted as he attempts to emulate him, though Basil points out to Harry that "You never say a moral thing, and you never do a wrong thing."<br />
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Other characters include:<br />
* '''Sibyl Vane''' – a beautiful and talented, but poor, actress and singer, with whom Dorian falls in love. Her love for him ruins her acting ability, as she no longer finds pleasure in portraying fictional love when she is experiencing love in reality. She commits suicide after learning that Dorian no longer loves her. Lord Henry likens her to [[Ophelia]].<br />
* '''James Vane''' – Sibyl's brother, a sailor who leaves for Australia. He is extremely protective of his sister, especially as their mother cares only for Dorian's money. He is hesitant to leave his sister, believing Dorian will harm her and promises to take vengeance if any harm should befall his sister. After Sibyl's death he becomes obsessed with killing Dorian and begins to [[Stalking|stalk]] him. He dies in a hunting accident. His pursuit of revenge against Dorian Gray for the death of his sister emulates the role of [[Laertes (Hamlet)|Laertes]], Ophelia's brother in ''Hamlet''.<br />
* '''Alan Campbell''' – a chemist and one-time friend of Dorian; he ended their friendship when Dorian's reputation began to come into question. Dorian blackmails him into disposing of Basil's body; Campbell later commits suicide.<br />
* '''Lord Fermor''' – Lord Henry's uncle, who informs his nephew about Dorian Gray's lineage.<br />
* '''Victoria, Lady Wotton''' – Lord Henry's wife, who only appears once in the novel. Her husband treats her with disdain; she later divorces him.<br />
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==Themes==<br />
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===Aestheticism and duplicity===<br />
[[File:Le Portrait de Dorian Gray Oscar Wilde (1992, Encre de Chine, 21 x 29 cm).TIF|thumb|''Le Portrait de Dorian Gray, Oscar Wilde'', [[Arnaud Courlet de Vregille]], (1992, ink of China, 21 x 29 cm)]]<br />
[[Aestheticism]] is a strong motif and is tied in with the concept of the [[double life]]. A major theme is that aestheticism is merely an absurd abstract that only serves to disillusion rather than dignify the concept of beauty. Although Dorian is [[hedonist]]ic, when Basil accuses him of making Lord Henry's sister's name a "by-word," Dorian replies "Take care, Basil. You go too far",<ref name="DorianGray Chapter XII">''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' (Penguin Classics) – Chapter XII</ref> suggesting Dorian still cares about his outward image and standing within [[Victorian era|Victorian]] society. Wilde highlights Dorian's pleasure of living a double life.<ref name="DorianGray Chapter XI">''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' (Penguin Classics) – Chapter XI</ref> Not only does Dorian enjoy this sensation in private, but he also feels "keenly the terrible pleasure of a double life" when attending a society gathering just 24 hours after committing a murder.<br />
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This duplicity and indulgence is most evident in Dorian's visit to the opium dens of London. Wilde conflates the images of the upper class and lower class by having the supposedly upright Dorian visit the impoverished districts of London. Lord Henry asserts that "crime belongs exclusively to the lower orders... I should fancy that crime was to them what art is to us, simply a method of procuring extraordinary sensations", which suggests that Dorian is both the criminal and the [[aesthete]] combined in one man. This is perhaps linked to Robert Louis Stevenson's ''[[Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]],'' which Wilde admired.<ref name="Penguin Intro pg ix" /> The division that was witnessed in Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, although extreme, is evident in Dorian Gray, who attempts to contain the two divergent parts of his personality. This is a recurring theme in many Gothic novels.<br />
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==Allusions to other works==<br />
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===''The Republic''===<br />
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Glaucon and Adeimantus present the myth of [[Ring of Gyges|Gyges' ring]], by which Gyges made himself invisible. They ask Socrates, if one came into possession of such a ring, why should he act justly? Socrates replies that even if no one can see one's physical appearance, the soul is disfigured by the evils one commits. This disfigured (the antithesis of beautiful) and corrupt soul is imbalanced and disordered, and in itself undesirable regardless of other advantages of acting unjustly. Dorian's portrait is the means by which other individuals, such as his friend Basil, may see Dorian's distorted soul.<br />
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===''Tannhäuser''===<br />
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At one point, Dorian attends a performance of [[Richard Wagner]]'s opera, [[Tannhäuser (opera)|''Tannhäuser'']], and is explicitly said to personally identify with the work. Indeed, the opera bears some striking resemblances with the novel, and, in short, tells the story of a medieval (and historically real) singer, whose art is so beautiful that he causes [[Venus (mythology)|Venus]], the goddess of love herself, to fall in love with him, and to offer him eternal life with her in the Venusberg. Tannhäuser becomes dissatisfied with his life there, however, and elects to return to the harsh world of reality, where, after taking part in a song-contest, he is sternly censured for his sensuality, and eventually dies in his search for repentance and the love of a good woman.<br />
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===''Faust''===<br />
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Wilde is reputed to have stated that "in every first novel the hero is the author as Christ or [[Faust]]."<ref>{{cite book|url=http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=s8klNRZBYBAC&pg=PT21&dq=%22in+every+first+novel+the+hero+is+the+author+as+Christ+or+Faust.%22&hl=en&ei=FJXjTeKTKYzB8QPV4r3rBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22in%20every%20first%20novel%20the%20hero%20is%20the%20author%20as%20Christ%20or%20Faust.%22&f=false |title=The picture of Dorian Gray – Google Books |publisher=Books.google.co.uk |date= |accessdate=30 May 2011}}</ref> As in Faust, a temptation is placed before the lead character Dorian, the potential for ageless beauty; Dorian indulges in this temptation. In both stories, the lead character entices a beautiful woman to love them and then destroys her life. Wilde went on to say that the notion behind ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' is "old in the history of literature" but was something to which he had "given a new form."<ref name="DorianGray Preface">''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' (Penguin Classics) – Preface</ref><br />
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Unlike Faust, there is no point at which Dorian makes a deal with the [[devil]]. However, Lord Henry's cynical outlook on life, and [[hedonistic]] nature seems to be in keeping with the idea of the devil's role, that of the temptation of the [[virtue|pure]] and innocent qualities which Dorian exemplifies at the beginning of the book. Although Lord Henry takes an interest in Dorian, it does not seem that he is aware of the effect of his actions. However, Lord Henry advises Dorian that "the only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing";<ref name="DorianGray Chapter II">''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' (Penguin Classics) – Chapter II</ref> in this sense, Lord Henry can be seen to represent the Devil, "leading Dorian into an unholy pact by manipulating his innocence and insecurity."<ref name="Devil's Advocate">[http://education.yahoo.com/homework_help/cliffsnotes/the_picture_of_dorian_gray/10.html The Picture of Dorian Gray]{{dead link|date=May 2011}} – a summary and commentary of Chapter II of ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' (retrieved 29 July 2006)</ref><br />
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===Shakespeare===<br />
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In his preface, Wilde writes about [[Caliban]], a character from Shakespeare's play ''[[The Tempest]]''. When Dorian is telling Lord Henry Wotton about his new 'love', Sibyl Vane, he refers to all of the Shakespearean plays she has been in, referring to her as the heroine of each play. At a later time, he speaks of his life by quoting ''[[Hamlet]],'' who has similarly driven his girlfriend to suicide and her brother to swear revenge.<br />
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===Joris-Karl Huysmans===<br />
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Dorian's "poisonous French novel" that leads to his downfall is believed to be [[Joris-Karl Huysmans]]' novel ''[[À rebours]]''. Literary critic [[Richard Ellmann]] writes:<blockquote>Wilde does not name the book but at his trial he conceded that it was, or almost, Huysmans's ''A Rebours''...To a correspondent he wrote that he had played a 'fantastic variation' upon ''A Rebours'' and some day must write it down. The references in ''Dorian Gray'' to specific chapters are deliberately inaccurate.<ref>Ellmann, ''Oscar Wilde'' (Vintage, 1988) p.316</ref></blockquote><br />
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==Literary significance==<br />
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===Publication history===<br />
[[File:Doriangray wardlock.jpg|thumb|[[Title page]] of the Ward, Lock & Co. edition of 1891 with decorative lettering designed by [[Charles Ricketts]]]]<br />
''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' began as a short novel submitted to ''[[Lippincott's Monthly Magazine]]''. In 1889, J. M. Stoddart, an editor for Lippincott, was in London to solicit short novels for the magazine. On 30 August 1889, Stoddart dined with Wilde and [[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle]] at the [[Langham Hotel, London|Langham Hotel]], and commissioned short novels from both men.<ref name="FrankelIntro">{{cite book |last=Frankel |first=Nicholas |editor1-first=Oscar |editor1-last=Wilde |editor1-link=Oscar Wilde |title=The Picture of Dorian Gray: An Annotated, Uncensored Edition |year=2011 |origyear=1890 |publisher=Belknap Press ([[Harvard University Press]]) |location=[[Cambridge, Massachusetts]] |isbn=978-0-674-05792-0 |pages=38–64 |chapter=Textual Introduction}}</ref> Conan Doyle promptly submitted ''[[The Sign of the Four]]'' to Stoddart, but Wilde was more dilatory; Conan Doyle's novel was published in the February 1890 edition of ''Lippincott's'', but Stoddart did not receive Wilde's typescript for ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' until 7 April 1890.<ref name="FrankelIntro" /> Stoddart was impressed by the story's literary merits, but wrote to publisher George Lippincott that "in its present condition there are a number of things an innocent woman would make an exception to."<ref name="FrankelIntro" /> Stoddart and his colleagues proceeded to make numerous changes to the novel (several manuscripts of which survive). Deletions to Wilde's typescript made prior to publication in ''Lippincott's'' include: the removal of several passages alluding to homosexuality and homosexual desire; the deletion of all references to the title of the fictitious book ''Le Secret de Raoul'', and to its fictitious author, Catulle Sarrazin; and three references to Gray's female lovers Sibyl Vane and Hetty Merton as his "mistresses".<ref name="FrankelIntro" /> The novel was published on 20 June 1890 in the July edition of ''Lippincott's''. British reviewers widely condemned the book for immorality, and the novel was so controversial that [[W H Smith]] pulled that month's edition of ''Lippincott's'' from its bookstalls in railway stations.<ref name="FrankelIntro" /><br />
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In part due to the criticism of the first edition, Wilde subsequently attempted to moderate some of the more [[homoerotic]] references in the book, and to simplify the book's moral message.<ref name="FrankelIntro" /> In the 1890 edition, Basil tells Henry how he "worships" Dorian, and begs him not to "take away the one person that makes my life absolutely lovely to me." The focus for Basil in the 1890 edition seems to be more towards love, whereas the Basil of the 1891 edition cares more for his art, saying "the one person who gives my art whatever charm it may possess: my life as an artist depends on him." The book was also extended greatly: the original thirteen chapters became twenty, and the final chapter was divided into two new chapters. The additions involved the "fleshing out of Dorian as a character" and also provided details about his ancestry, which helped to make his "psychological collapse more prolonged and more convincing."<ref name="DorianGray ANoteOnTheText">''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' (Penguin Classics) – A Note on the Text</ref> The character of James Vane was also introduced, which helped to elaborate upon Sibyl Vane's character and background; the addition of the character helped to emphasise and foreshadow Dorian's selfish ways, as James sees through Dorian's character, and guesses upon his future dishonourable actions (the inclusion of James Vane's sub-plot also gives the novel a more typically Victorian tinge, part of Wilde's attempts to decrease the controversy surrounding the book). Another notable change is that in the latter half of the novel events were specified as taking place around Dorian Gray's 32nd birthday, on 7 November. After the changes, they were specified as taking place around Dorian Gray's 38th birthday, on 9 November, thereby extending the period of time over which the story occurs. The former date is also significant in that it coincides with the year in Wilde's life during which he was introduced to homosexual practices. {{Citation needed|reason=not general knowledge|date=April 2013}}<br />
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===Preface===<br />
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The preface to ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' was added, along with other amendments, after the edition published in ''Lippincott's'' was criticised. Wilde used it to address the criticism and defend the novel's reputation.<ref name="Preface Quote">[http://www.gradesaver.com/classicnotes/titles/dorian/section2.html GraderSave: ClassicNote] – a summary and analysis of the book and its preface (retrieved 5 July 2006)</ref> It consists of a collection of statements about the role of the artist, art itself, and the value of beauty, and serves as an indicator of the way in which Wilde intends the novel to be read, as well as traces of Wilde's exposure to [[Taoism]] and the writings of the Chinese Taoist philosopher [[Chuang Tsu]]. Shortly before writing the preface, Wilde reviewed [[Herbert Giles|Herbert A. Giles's]] translation of the writings of Chuang Tsu.<ref name="Speaker I:6">The Preface first appeared with the publication of the novel in 1891. But by June 1890 Wilde was defending his book (see ''The Letters of Oscar Wilde'', Merlin Holland and [[Rupert Hart-Davis]] eds., Henry Holt (2000), ISBN 0-8050-5915-6 and ''The Artist as Critic'', ed. [[Richard Ellmann]], University of Chicago (1968), ISBN 0-226-89764-8 – where Wilde's review of Giles's translation is reprinted and Chuang Tsŭ is incorrectly identified with [[Confucius]].) Wilde's review of Giles's translation was published in ''The Speaker'' of 8 February 1890.</ref> In it he writes:<br />
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{{quotation|The honest ratepayer and his healthy family have no doubt often mocked at the dome-like forehead of the philosopher, and laughed over the strange perspective of the landscape that lies beneath him. If they really knew who he was, they would tremble. For [[Chuang Tsu|Chuang Tsǔ]] spent his life in preaching the great creed of Inaction, and in pointing out the uselessness of all things.<ref name="Artist as Critic 222">Ellmann, ''The Artist as Critic'', 222.</ref>}}<br />
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===Criticism===<br />
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Overall, initial critical reception of the book was poor, with the book gaining "certain notoriety for being 'mawkish and nauseous,' 'unclean,' 'effeminate,' and 'contaminating.'"<ref name="The Modern Library">[http://www.randomhouse.com/modernlibrary/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780679642091 The Modern Library] – a synopsis of the book coupled with a short biography of Oscar Wilde (retrieved 6 July 2006)</ref> ''The Irish Times'' wrote that The Picture of Dorian Gray was "first published to some scandal."<ref>{{Cite news | last =Battersby | first =Eileen | coauthors = | title =Wilde's portrait of subtle control | newspaper =Irish Times | location = | pages = | language = | publisher = | date =7 April 2010 | url =http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detail?hid=111&sid=854409f9-be37-4c57-9f99-5ca010d27ef7%40sessionmgr114&vid=4&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWhvc3QtbGl2ZQ%3d%3d#db=n5h&AN=9FY4146686689 | accessdate =9 March 2011 }}</ref> This had much to do with the novel's [[homoeroticism|homoerotic]] overtones, which caused something of a sensation amongst Victorian critics when first published. A large portion of the criticism was levelled at Wilde's perceived hedonism, and its distorted views of conventional morality. The ''Daily Chronicle'' of 30 June 1890 suggests that Wilde's novel contains "one element...which will taint every young mind that comes in contact with it." The ''Scots Observer'' of 5 July 1890 asks why Wilde must "go grubbing in muck-heaps?” Wilde responded to such criticisms by curtailing some of the homoerotic overtones, and by adding six chapters to the book in an effort to add background.<ref name="Addition">[http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/LitNote/id-144,pageNum-2.html CliffsNotes:The Picture of Dorian Gray] – an introduction and overview the book (retrieved 5 July 2006)</ref><br />
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===Major changes in the 1891 version from the 1890 first edition===<br />
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The 1891 version was expanded from 13 to 20 chapters, but also toned down, particularly in some of its overt homoerotic aspects. Also, chapters 3, 5, and 15 to 18 are entirely new in the 1891 version, and chapter 13 from the first edition is split in two (becoming chapters 19 and 20).<ref>{{cite web|url=http://mdoege.github.io/Dorian_Gray_diff/ |title=Differences between the 1890 and 1891 editions of "Dorian Gray" |publisher=Github.io |date= |accessdate=25 December 2013}}</ref><br />
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At his [[Oscar Wilde#Trials|1895 trials]] Wilde testified that some of these changes were because of letters sent to him by [[Walter Pater]].<ref>Lawler, Donald L., "An Inquiry into Oscar Wilde's Revisions of 'The Picture of Dorian Gray'" (New York: Garland, 1988)</ref><br />
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====Deleted or moved passages====<br />
* (Basil about Dorian) ''He has stood as Paris in dainty armour, and as Adonis with huntsman's cloak and polished boar-spear. Crowned with heavy lotus-blossoms, he has sat on the prow of Adrian's barge, looking into the green, turbid Nile. He has leaned over the still pool of some Greek woodland, and seen in the water's silent silver the wonder of his own beauty.'' (This passage turns up in Basil's speech to Dorian in the 1891 version.)<br />
* (Lord Henry about fidelity) ''It has nothing to do with our own will. It is either an unfortunate accident, or an unpleasant result of temperament.''<br />
* ''"You don't mean to say that Basil has got any passion or any romance in him?" / "I don't know whether he has any passion, but he certainly has romance," said Lord Henry, with an amused look in his eyes. / "Has he never let you know that?" / "Never. I must ask him about it. I am rather surprised to hear it.''<br />
* (Describing Basil Hallward) ''Rugged and straightforward as he was, there was something in his nature that was purely feminine in its tenderness.''<br />
* (Basil to Dorian) ''It is quite true that I have worshipped you with far more romance of feeling than a man usually gives to a friend. Somehow, I had never loved a woman. I suppose I never had time. Perhaps, as Harry says, a really ''grande passion'' is the privilege of those who have nothing to do, and that is the use of the idle classes in a country.'' (the latter remark being part of Lord Henry's dialogue in the 1891 version)<br />
* Some dialogue between Mrs Leaf and Dorian has been cut, which mentions Dorian's fondness for "jam" (which might have been used metaphorically for his sexuality).<br />
* When Basil confronts Dorian: ''Dorian, Dorian, your reputation is infamous. I know you and Harry are great friends. I say nothing about that now, but surely you need not have made his sister's name a by-word.'' (That part has been deleted in the 1891 version, and the passage after that has been added.)<br />
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* ''Each class would have preached the importance of those virtues, for whose exercise there was no necessity in their own lives. The rich would have spoken on the value of thrift, and the idle grown eloquent over the dignity of labour.''<br />
* ''A ''grande passion'' is the privilege of people who have nothing to do. That is the one use of the idle classes of a country. Don't be afraid.''<br />
* ''Faithfulness! I must analyse it some day. The passion for property is in it. There are many things that we would throw away if we were not afraid that others might pick them up.''<br />
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====Uncensored edition====<br />
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In 2011 [[Harvard University Press]] published under its Belknap Press imprint an annotated and uncensored edition of the work that includes material that was removed prior to its first publication in 1890.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?recid=31147 |title=The Picture of Dorian Gray – Oscar Wilde, Nicholas Frankel – Harvard University Press |publisher=Hup.harvard.edu |date= |accessdate=30 May 2011}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|author=Alison Flood |url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/apr/27/dorian-gray-oscar-wilde-uncensored |title=Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray published &#124; Books &#124; guardian.co.uk |publisher=Guardian |date= 27 April 2011|accessdate=30 May 2011 |location=London}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/thursday-the-uncensored-dorian-gray/2011/03/28/AFw5cD6B_story.html |title=Thursday: The uncensored "Dorian Gray" |publisher=The Washington Post |date= 4 April 2011|accessdate=30 May 2011}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last=Wilde |first=Oscar |authorlink=Oscar Wilde |editor1-first=Nicholas |editor1-last=Frankel |title=The Picture of Dorian Gray: An Annotated, Uncensored Edition |year=2011 |origyear=1890 |publisher=Belknap Press ([[Harvard University Press]]) |location=[[Cambridge, Massachusetts]] |isbn=978-0-674-05792-0 }}</ref><br />
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==Adaptations==<br />
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==Modern attention==<br />
''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' was chosen as the book of 2010 for Dublin City's "One City, One Book" Festival in its fifth year.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.dublinonecityonebook.ie/2010 |title=2010 &#124; Dublin: One City, One Book |publisher=Dublinonecityonebook.ie |date= |accessdate=30 May 2011}}</ref> Cultural events related to the book and Oscar Wilde were hosted in Dublin during April 2010.<br />
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[[Big Finish Productions]] has produced a series of audio dramas entitled ''The Confessions of Dorian Gray'' based on the Wilde character and starring [[Alexander Vlahos]] as Dorian.<ref>http://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/v/the-confessions-of-dorian-gray</ref> An adaptation of the novel, also starring Vlahos, dramatised by [[David Llewellyn (author)|David Llewellyn]] and directed by [[Scott Handcock]] is due for release August 2013.<ref>http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-picture-of-dorian-gray-927?range=68</ref><br />
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==Editions==<br />
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* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Wordsworth Classics 1992, ISBN 1-85326-015-0<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Modern Library 1992, ISBN 978-0-679-60001-5<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Penguin Classics 1986, ISBN 0-14-043187-X<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Tor 1999, ISBN 0-8125-6711-0<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Books, Inc. 1994<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Broadview Press 1998, ISBN 978-1-55111-126-1<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Barnes and Noble Classics 2003, ISBN 978-1-59308-025-9<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Macmillan Readers 2005, ISBN 978-0-230-02922-4<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Macmillan Readers 2005 (with CD pack), ISBN 978-1-4050-7658-6<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Penguin Classics 2006, ISBN 978-0-14-144203-7<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Oxford World's Classics 2006, ISBN 978-0-19-280729-8<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Dalmatian Press Classics 2007, ISBN 978-1-4037-3908-7<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Four Corners Books 2007, ISBN 978-0-9545025-4-6<br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Oneworld Classics 2008, ISBN 978-1-84749-018-6<br />
* ''[http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674057920 The Picture of Dorian Gray: An Annotated, Uncensored Edition]'', [[Belknap Press]] 2011, ISBN 978-0-674-05792-0<br />
*''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', Illustrated Editions CO., INC. 1931 Illustrated by Lui Trugo.<ref>{{cite web|title=The picture of Dorian Gray. Illustrated by Lui Trugo|url=http://www.worldcat.org/title/picture-of-dorian-gray-illustrated-by-lui-trugo/oclc/639944799|publisher=WorldCat|accessdate=11 July 2012}}</ref><br />
* ''The Picture of Dorian Gray '', [[The Folio Society]] 2012, illustrated by [[Emma Chichester Clark]]<br />
* ''[http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674066311 The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray]'', [[Belknap Press]] 2011, ISBN 978-0-674-06631-1<br />
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==See also==<br />
{{Portal|Oscar Wilde}}<br />
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* [[Dorian Gray syndrome]]<br />
* [[List of cultural references in The Picture of Dorian Gray]]<br />
* ''[[The Happy Hypocrite]]'' – in some ways an inverse of ''The Picture of Dorian Gray''<br />
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* [http://library.uvic.ca/site/lib/dig/DorianGray.html Replica of the 1890 Edition & Critical Edition] at [[University of Victoria]]<br />
* ''[http://www.bibliomania.com/0/0/57/103/frameset.html The Picture of Dorian Gray]'' to read on line on [[bibliomania]] site.<br />
* {{gutenberg|no=4078|name=The Picture of Dorian Gray (13-chapter version)}}<br />
* {{gutenberg|no=174|name=The Picture of Dorian Gray (20-chapter version)}}<br />
* [http://librivox.org/the-picture-of-dorian-gray-by-oscar-wilde/ Audioversion] at [[LibriVox]]<br />
* {{isfdb title|id=13981}}<br />
* [http://www.shmoop.com/picture-dorian-gray/ The Picture of Dorian Gray] study guide, themes, quotes, literary devices, character analyses, teacher resources<br />
* The Picture of Dorian Gray at Odeon Theatre, Bucharest, Romania.[http://www.teatrul-odeon.ro/eng/spectacole/dgray.htm]<br />
* Photo Gallery. The Picture of Dorian Gray. Odeon Theatre.[http://galerie.liternet.ro/dorian_gray/dorian013#f]<br />
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:It's not easy! You basically have to be a model Wikipedian for at least a year first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== User:PWB Health Ltd ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I've unblocked {{userlinks|PWB Health Ltd}} (which you softblocked) to allow them to request an rename. I hope you don't mind. Regards, <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 11:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No prob, thanks for handling that. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Gentle reminder ==<br />
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As mentioned further up the page, mind moving the prodded pages [[Shab-al-Hiri Roach]] and [[Durance (role-playing game)]] to my userspace please? [[User:Neonchameleon|Neonchameleon]] ([[User talk:Neonchameleon|talk]]) 15:03, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, done. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ASSISTANCE WITH FLO RIDA PAGE ==<br />
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Hello, Someone has seriously vandalized this page removing all reference to FLO RIDA song for Charity with MARC MYSTERIO which has charted internationally as well and is highly publicized.<br />
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Theyve removed Mysterio from related acts and all mentions of the single.<br />
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The song was to benefit ONE FUND BOSTON.<br />
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Can you check through the edits made on that page and revert them? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/109.76.50.30|109.76.50.30]] ([[User talk:109.76.50.30|talk]]) 19:56, 17 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:What is the exact title of the page you're referring to? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:05, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== non-constructive edits ==<br />
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I just got the following message from you:<br />
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Please refrain from making nonconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Boring, Oregon with this edit. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Administrators have the ability to block users from editing if they repeatedly engage in vandalism. Thank you. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Navigation menu<br />
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I hope you at least read the edit. (ahem!) <br />
::And I am here to announce that I find the reaction time between graffiti (or humorous edit) and Wikipedia editor is incredibly quick. So I guess- "Good Work" is in due for you. (Even if I wish my edit on Boring, Oregon would've stayed.) <br />
'''As for a possible solution/idea you may offer me:'''<br />
:No, I will not post it on the Uncyclopedia, which is over edited lame humor.<br />
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My edit was as follows:<br />
All Wikipedia contributors apologize for any sighs of boredom that the reader of this article may exhale. In the future please note that Wikipedia strives for informative information and is not responsible for readers who wish to find something not boring in an article titled "Boring, Oregon".<br />
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Cheers, --[[Special:Contributions/71.205.198.123|71.205.198.123]] ([[User talk:71.205.198.123|talk]]) 01:25, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I did find your edit humorous. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:50, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I apologize, it will not happen again. Hopefully. --[[Special:Contributions/71.205.198.123|71.205.198.123]] ([[User talk:71.205.198.123|talk]]) 01:57, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Since you've blocked the normals from Jimbo's talk page, I'll post to you ==<br />
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Russavia is posting legal threats that Jimbo might want to know about.<br />
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Jimmy_Wales_by_Pricasso_%28the_making_of%29.ogv&diff=prev&oldid=112046724<br />
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By the way, it seems kind of draconian to block that many users from Jimbo's talk page to get Mbz1. [[User:Hell might be other people|Hell might be other people]] ([[User talk:Hell might be other people|talk]]) 03:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It is unfortunate that we don't have a better solution to deal with IP-hopping disruption we do now, I agree. I was going to ignore her, but then she started edit warring, so I decided protection was merited. I suggest you use the "Email this user" function to bring this incident to Jimbo's attention. Or you could post on his Commons talk page: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales User talk:Jimbo Wales]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:10, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Would you be so kind as to post it to his en.wp talk page? I don't think he watches or responds on commons and Russavia is saying some pretty vile things about him on commons. Thanks in advance. [[User:Hell might be other people|Hell might be other people]] ([[User talk:Hell might be other people|talk]]) 03:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I have to run at the moment, but if you post the message you want added to his talk page to [[WP:RFED]] someone should copy it over. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:Bashtowndriyp]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your help with that rather messy affair. I'll keep an eye on things when he's unblocked, and so will a few others who work AfC who are aware of what's going on. Many thanks, my friend. :) [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 10:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, let me know if there are any more issues. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Savedship ==<br />
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A sockpuppet of {{User|Savedship002}} a user whom you indefinitely blocked for [[Wikipedia:Vandalism-only account|VOA]] only 18 hours ago has popped up. → {{User|Savedship001}}. &#9733;&#9734; [[User:DUCKISJAMMMY|<font color="Fuchsia">DUCK</font><font color="blue">IS</font><font color="Fuchsia">JAMMMY</font>]]&#9734;&#9733; 10:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Nevermind {{alreadydone}} by [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]]. Thanks for the previous block. &#9733;&#9734; [[User:DUCKISJAMMMY|<font color="Fuchsia">DUCK</font><font color="blue">IS</font><font color="Fuchsia">JAMMMY</font>]]&#9734;&#9733; 11:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RevisionDelete&target=Special%3ALog%2Fnewusers&type=logging&ids=53354337 RevDel] ==<br />
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Hi. Just a small thing, but it should be enough to only delete the username and not the action in these examples (''à la'' [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RevisionDelete&target=Special%3ALog%2Fnewusers&type=logging&ids=49919132]), since the phrase "was created" is not itself offensive. '''[[User:It Is Me Here|<font color="#006600">It Is Me Here</font>]]''' <sup>'''[[User_talk:It Is Me Here|<font color="#CC6600">t</font>]] / [[Special:Contributions/It Is Me Here|<font color="#CC6600">c</font>]]</sup>''' 15:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see my mistake now. Thanks for the note, I'll keep that in mind. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==HornAfrik Media Inc==<br />
Hi Mark, Could you please undelete Ali-Ahmed.jpg now that [[HornAfrik Media Inc]] is out of the creation process! Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 18:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I've undeleted it. Not sure if it qualifies as fair use in that article or not though. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:03, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Thank you, the image ended up in the content fork on the Attacks on HornAfrik Media Inc. We appreciate all your assistance Mark! [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 19:55, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merge request==<br />
Mark, could you merge the histories of [[User:Crtew/Norberto_Miranda]] and [[User:Crtew/Norberto Miranda Madrid]] together into the [[User:Crtew/Norberto Miranda Madrid]] article so all the edits are together in one place for CC copyright. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 20:00, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, it's taken care of now, I think. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, Perfect! [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 20:14, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Loque2009 ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
Because I found out that Loque2009 was only using the account for spam / advertising purposes, please reblock this user indefinitely.<br />
Thanks!<br />
[[User:Thewikiguru1|Thewikiguru1]] ([[User talk:Thewikiguru1|talk]]) 21:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I might be willing to do that, but I think you should ask the blocking admin first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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OK, I have asked the blocking admin [[User:Edgar181|Edgar181]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|talk]]).<br />
[[User:Thewikiguru1|Thewikiguru1]] ([[User talk:Thewikiguru1|talk]]) 21:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"<br />
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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Admin's Barnstar'''<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I see you everywhere lately - blocking vandals, deleting spam, saving the weak! [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 22:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:18, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
==Sorry==<br />
oh I'm sorry, I understand what I did wrong now. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.128.219.189|65.128.219.189]] ([[User talk:65.128.219.189|talk]]) 00:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Ali Iman Sharmarke ==<br />
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Mark, Could you undelete the image HornAfrik.jpg for the article [[Ali Iman Sharmarke]] now that it is published. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 04:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, done. I think the FUR needs to be updated though. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:59, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Opinion ==<br />
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If you could, please check out these two users: Pinakulo and Fairyspit. I want someone else's opinion before I call [[wp:sockpuppetry|sock puppetry]] on them. Look at their contributions, based mainly on the edits of [[Benedict Cumberbatch]] or anyone affiliated with him like ex-girlfriends. They both seem very set on reverting any edit they don't agree with until it's border line an edit war. Please let me know what you think. Thank you! :) [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 12:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, they both seem to focus on Cumberbatch and have both edited [[Katia Elizarova]] a decent amount as well. That does seem suspicious. To file a successful case at [[WP:SPI]] though, you'd have to present diffs of very similar edits that they've made. Ideally something like, one accounts adds something to an article, someone removes it, then the other account re-adds it. If you can show that kind of thing on more than one article you're very likely to get a checkuser to examine their IPs. Basically just present enough evidence so it seems like more than just a coincidence that they have the same interests. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:06, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::I will, thank you! [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 21:16, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::If you'd like to comment on this, I opened up a discussion here [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fairyspit]]. If not, that's fine. Thanks for your help! [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 18:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Eat, Pray, Love ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I was the one who requested a protect for the Eat, Pray, Love page due to an edit war where edits selectively removes negative reviews from notable sources (Huffington Post and The New York Times). I had requested temporary full protect to encourage use of the talk page, but I was the only one you ended up blocking, and now the user who had removed the negative reviews disappeared from the talk page. It may be that the neutrality of a low-importance article is not significant, but if you think it's worthwhile perhaps you could look at the edits and talk page (there were previous complaints about neutrality due to the dearth of negative reviews). Regardless, I yield to your greater expertise and won't edit further. Thanks for all the work you seem to do on Wikipedia. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E|2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E]] ([[User talk:2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E|talk]]) 13:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, from the perspective of an edit looking at a content dispute, my goal is to stop the edit warring more than it is to make sure the "right" version of the page is in place. So, in this case, semi-protection stopped the edit warring, though maybe not on the "right" version. If I had full protected it, it would have definitely stuck on the "wrong" version for a while, since by default I protect the current version. If the editor in question doesn't want to discuss, you could ask on the talk page of a relevant Wikiproject (perhaps [[WP:WikiProject Books]]) for uninvolved users to comment or try opening an [[WP:RFC]] on the talk page of the article to get more input. Let me know if you have any more questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:36, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Rif Dimashq offensive (September–November 2013) ==<br />
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You can set the protection on this page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_Dimashq_offensive_%28September%E2%80%93November_2013%29 Rif Dimashq offensive (September–November 2013)][[User:Hanibal911|Hanibal911]] ([[User talk:Hanibal911|talk]]) 13:49, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a little bit less disruption at this point than I like to see before protecting, so I think I'll hold off for now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Geraldine Edwards hoax ==<br />
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Thanks for blocking [[Special:Contributions/146.244.11.175|146.244.11.175]] just now. The person represents a real BLP problem.<br />
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I have been working hard undoing the work of this person based in San Diego who in April–May 2011 started adding stuff about Geraldine Edwards to various articles. This person has created a couple of hoax references to help the hoax text resist deletion, which strategy has in fact worked pretty well until today. I was surprised to see that the San Diego person reacted so strongly today; I guess I thought the person had stopped caring about these articles a long time ago. I was wrong! <br />
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The hoax material usually gives Geraldine Edwards an important place as groupie or girlfriend in several musician biographies, a place at least the equal of [[Bebe Buell]] with regard to Buell or someone else being the inspiration for the groupies in the film ''Almost Famous''.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bebe_Buell&diff=427271037&oldid=421591398][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groupie&diff=427467343&oldid=427099477][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rick_Springfield&diff=427785131&oldid=427564082] This IP editor also smears the name of Mary Ambrose[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carl_Carlton_%28German_musician%29&diff=470120650&oldid=455072794] or pushes her down in importance[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honey_%28Robert_Palmer_album%29&diff=427280899&oldid=423256102]; Ambrose was Robert Palmer's longterm girlfriend at the time of his death and a co-composer on two of his songs. <br />
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Here are some fake references used by the IP:<br />
*{{cite news |first=Frank |last=Phelps |coauthors= |title=Dapper Rocker Robert Palmer dies |work=[[The Chicago Sun Times]] |page=27 |date=28 September 2003 |accessdate=2 May 2009|quote= |url= }}<br />
*{{cite news |first=Tracy |last=Marks |coauthors= |title=Former Employee and Lover of Robert Palmer Challenges his Will; Mary Ambrose says she is not a Heartless Goldigger |work=[[The Sun (United Kingdom)|The Sun]] |page=39 |date=29 October 2004 |accessdate=2 May 2009|quote= |url= }}<br />
*{{cite new| title=Eric Clapton Talks| author=Mark D'Ambrosio| newspaper=[[The Boston Beacon]]| date=June 20, 2006| url=http://articles.TheBostonBeacon.com/2006/June/20/local/me-clapton11/6}} [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Clapton&diff=428319709&oldid=428033853] ...Which was soon changed to the following...<br />
*{{cite new| title=Eric Clapton Talks| author=Mark D'Ambrosio| newspaper=[[The Boston Globe]]| date=June 20, 2006| url=http://articles.TheBostonGlobe.com/2006/June/20/local/me-clapton11/6}} [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Clapton&diff=next&oldid=428320058]<br />
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Since many people involved in this hoax are still alive, I wanted to let you know the extent of it, so that the BLP case is somewhat familiar if it arises in the future. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 22:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:For instance, when San Diego person gets home from work and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Palmer_%28singer%29&diff=prev&oldid=586867319 reduces Mary Ambrose] on the machine at home. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 00:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for the note, I'll look into it more later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:31, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, this is very strange. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for your various protections and blocks—what a relief! [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 04:11, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lam Duong ==<br />
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Could you undelete the image Lam_Duong.png now that [[Assassination of Vietnamese-American journalists in the United States]] has been created. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 22:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Are you sure that's the name? I don't see a file there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== CSD-F5 deletion of .pdf image ==<br />
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The deletion of [[:File:New_Jersey_Dry_Town_Listing.pdf]] was performed under [[WP:CSD#F5]], but as the uploaded item is a .pdf file from the State of New Jersey, and the file is linked directly by about 20 articles as a link rather than as an image. It would appear, as I read it, that the image did not meet the qualifications to delete the file under CSD F5. Any thoughts on restoring the file? [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 03:33, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I've temp undeleted it for now {{ping|DavidinNJ}} had marked it as non-free, perhaps he could comment. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Xmas in Advance ==<br />
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<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:green; background-color:white; font color:red; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">[[image:Christmas_tree_sxc_hu.jpg|70px|left]]<br />
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[[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) is wishing you a [[Mary Poppins|Merry]] [[Christmas]]! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> <br />
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Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{tls|Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.<br />
</div> [[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) 13:41, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the Christmas cheer! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== List of Harry Potter characters query ==<br />
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Please see [[Talk:List_of_Harry_Potter_characters#Students_in_Harry.27s_year]]. Thanks :)<br />
:I suggest you discuss the issue there and try to come to a consensus. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Teresa Cristina ==<br />
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Have you protected indefinitely by mistake? [[User:DrKiernan|DrKiernan]] ([[User talk:DrKiernan|talk]]) 18:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that was a mistake... I'm glad someone caught that! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:16, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Removed references by mistake on the Winter Solstice page===<br />
Hi I removed the references from :http://en.wikipedia.org/Winter_solstice<br />
by mistake. Can you please help? and bring them back? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.172.197.188|122.172.197.188]] ([[User talk:122.172.197.188|talk]]) 20:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Ok, I added them back. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:05, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandalism on [[Origami]] ==<br />
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The vandal on Origami is obviously back again, now as a registered autoconfirmed user, {{vandal|BurfyAdkins}}, to bypass the indefinite semi-protection. A user account that was created on 17 December, the day after [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A66.118.71.123 the block on the last IP he used] expired, made the needed number of more or less meaningless edits on other articles and then sat back, waiting to become autoconfirmed, before making [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=587003302&oldid=585699309 the exact same vandalism] on Origami as the various blocked IPs did (note the misspelling in BurfyAdkins' edit summary "Oragami", which duplicates the IP-vandal's spelling [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=585141036&oldid=585140796 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=585140787&oldid=584066859 here]). And my gut feeling tells me not only that it is the same individual, but also that he has created several spare sleeper accounts... [[User:Thomas.W|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#164D0B">'''Thomas.W'''</font>]] [[User talk:Thomas.W|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#164D0B"><sup><small>'''talk to me'''</small></sup></font>]] 20:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, thanks for the note. I blocked Burfy indef for now. Amazing how persistent some of these guys are... If any more pop up I'll talk to a checkuser about a sleeper check. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Aww, you're going to delete my very straightforward comments? Pity. Oh, well. Yes, I do have sleeper accounts, but I haven't decided whether to use them yet, or to go in a different direction. You're correct that I'm persistent, though. Still, I'm willing to come out in the open and state my intentions. So you don't have to play guessing games. FYI, kind of a busy day for me, so I'm done for now. Just wanted to see how fast the response would be to Burfy. I'll be back, probably next week. Have a Merry Christmas! [[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.146|74.82.64.146]] ([[User talk:74.82.64.146|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 22:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:::{{ping|74.82.64.146}} Just a note that with comments like this, you will be blocked for block evasion and for vandalism, and your registered accounts will be indefinitely blocked. [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 00:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry for ignoring you Mr. IP. I'm willing to listen if you have something to tell me, but I can't guarantee much else. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Athens Metro Station Layouts, added by socks of blocked user [[user:Pumpie|Pumpie]] ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I looked through the page history of some of the [[Athens Metro]] stations. Apparently, blocked user [[User:Pumpie|Pumpie]] and their socks (now blocked) added station layouts to the Athens Metro, and you reverted some of their edits; thanks for that. However, many of the station layouts are still there, in a poorly coded condition, and I think that you have overlooked some of their edits. Should the layouts stay, should I replace them with new layouts that are in a better condition (see some of the Taipei Metro and NYC Subway station layouts for examples of station layouts that I can convert Pumpie's layouts to), or should they be deleted altogether? I know how to fix the station layouts and can do so easily. Let me know of your thoughts on this. Thanks, [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 21:11, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, it's up to you, but if you have the energy then I think replacing them with new layouts would be the best option. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Wow, that was a expeditious response. I'll start doing that ASAP. [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 21:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sounds good! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:22, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Carlos Beltrán]] ==<br />
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Now that this guy becomes part of [[New York Yankees]] officially, I guess that issues are resolved. Semi-protection is too much for now, so why not re-enabling PC1 and let IPs edit again trustfully? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 22:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I'm a bit hesitant to do so because of the libelous nature of some of the vandalism that he was getting earlier in the month. It's revision deleted now though, so I can't point it out. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 22:23, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: You mean before the December 7 incident? If so, I'll ask [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]. The unsourced edits after December 7 are NYY-related. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 23:50, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::The libelous edits I deleted were on December 2, I think. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd guess it's probably safe, since most of it was related to the transaction that only became official yesterday. If vandalism continues, we can always re-protect it. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 00:32, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::: Under one condition, can you enable indefinite PC1? I'm sure that some IPs will do good. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 01:17, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== {{user|089baby}} ==<br />
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I'm writing here because of your involvement in the SPI into this user. The case has gotten somewhat ridiculous. He has used five new sockpuppets in the last six weeks or so, for a total of seventeen this year. It's clearly gotten to a point where blocking is a completely ineffective sanction. So was wondering if there is anything else that could be done to keep him off Wikipedia? In the SPI someone suggested blocking the underlying IP address. Is this possible, and would it stop him from creating new accounts? Thanks in advance for your help. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 02:43, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I blocked the most recent incarnation on the duck test. In some cases checkusers can issue a range block to the underlying IP range, but oftentimes, [[WP:RBI|revert, block, ignore]] is the best we can do. [[User:Mailer diablo]] was the last CU to look into it, so you might ask him if there's anything else that can be done. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:13, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for the suggestion. I've asked [[User:Mailer diablo]] about a range block and other possibilities. That being said, would it be inappropriate for me to report future sockpuppets directly to you instead of, or in addition to, an SPI, because I've got one for you, [[User:Holydog007]]. Part of the reason blocking has been so ineffective in the case that its usually taken about ten days to identify and block new sockpuppets. I'm now watching several key articles in this case. This is how, I managed to find the last two socks so quickly. I'm hoping that with quicker enforcement action he might just take his block seriously. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 05:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, I hope he's able to. Yes, feel free to report them on my talk page if you want. Technically it's good to have the full paper trail of a SPI filing, but the important thing is that they end up blocked. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 06:37, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request for Assistance ==<br />
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Would it be possible if I can get your assistance with dealing with an unruly ip? An ip, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.250.4.115] 98.250.4.115 is upset with the edits of one [[User:Op47|Op47]] over the splitting of [[Largest organisms]], and demonstrated its upset-ness by demanding that Op47 undo his edits or face banning for his "vandalisms." I removed the ip's threat here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOp47&diff=587047936&oldid=587047112] but it was then undone by [[User:Irishfrisian|Irishfrisian]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Op47&diff=next&oldid=587047936], and the ip then proceeded to accuse me of defending a vandal. Perhaps you would be better at persuading 98.250.4.115 to be more civil?--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 03:42, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I left him a message. We'll see how he responds. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 04:05, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for your help.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 04:38, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Thankyou to both of you for your help. [[User:Op47|Op47]] ([[User talk:Op47|talk]]) 13:03, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request for Assistance: DELETION PAGE ==<br />
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You deleted David D.A. Doman page. I am requesting the page be reactivated. It was the lack of sources that had the page removed, and I would like to add more credibly sources. How do I go about requesting the page be put live again? Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ranu79|Ranu79]] ([[User talk:Ranu79|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ranu79|contribs]]) 17:02, 21 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It depends, do you have sources that indicate he meets [[WP:GNG|our general notability guideline]]? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:50, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Chamillionaire protection ==<br />
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Hi! I noticed you protected the page [[Chamillionaire]] with the summary "Persistent vandalism". I see no vandalism at all to the page in the last month, and very little in the last few months. —[[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Emufarmers|T]]/[[Special:contributions/Emufarmers|C]])</small></sup> 19:08, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, I didn't protect it, I placed it under pending changes which still allows IPs to edit. I count at least seven disruptive IP edits in the last fifty edits which I think is enough to justify PC, particularly for a BLP. {{unsigned|Mark Arsten}}<br />
::The last 50 edits span 4 months, which doesn't strike me as an overwhelming barrage. On the other hand, I tend to think we should have PC on all BLPs as a matter of principle, so I guess I shouldn't be complaining. :-)<br />
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::By the way, [http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1teba8/i_am_wizardman_a_wikipedia_administrator_former/ce72z5o] (if that's not what brought you to the article in the first place). —[[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Emufarmers|T]]/[[Special:contributions/Emufarmers|C]])</small></sup> 03:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No, not overwhelming, but enough that I think pending changes is acceptable. For overwhelming vandalism I use semi-protection, but for BLPs that consistently have vandalism issues at a lower frequency I tend to opt for pending changes. How much vandalism exactly merits pending vs semi vs none is certainly a grey area, but when dealing with BLPs I err on the side of caution. I tend to agree with you about how we'd handle all BLPs in a perfect world, looking at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&tagfilter=possible+libel+or+vandalism this list] each day is pretty sobering. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 06:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Topic Ban ==<br />
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Hi Mark, hope you have been well. Just wondering if you know much about topic bans for users and the process to possibly start a discussion about implementing one for a user? Thanks. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 20:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well I guess the usual way is to open an ani discussion to discuss their conduct and see if it is concerning to anyone else. If so, then open a subheading in the discussion to hold a !vote on topic banned. The key is to clearly spell out the disruption. Let me know if you have any more questions. {{unsigned|Mark Arsten}}<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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Please Office Protect my user page<br />
([[User:FMacks|FMacks]] ([[User talk:FMacks|talk]]) 01:58, 22 December 2013 (UTC))<br />
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== AfD on DOM? ==<br />
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As the AfD on [[:David Oscar Markus]] generated no interest, can we close the AfD and just go for a speedy? Thanks. – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 02:30, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Generally I don't do that. Sometimes leaving it open for a bit leads to a much more solid consensus, which is helpful to have if someone tries to get it undeleted. There was some Rfc about closing one-week-old Afds like we would PRODs, and I don't think there was consensus to do it that way. I can't find the Rfc now though, so I may be mistaken. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[:Roger#Radio phraseology|Roger]]. – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 06:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, sometimes it's best to PROD first and then go to Afd if it's contested. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:55, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Scott Leaton ==<br />
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Hi [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark]],<br />
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You deleted [[Scott Leaton]] after closing the AFD. Do you have any objections to userfication so that I can do some work on it? [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 06:11, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I think this is one of those rare situations where you can actually cut and paste it into a sandbox. Just note what you're doing in the edit summary. Then if it's moved back to mainspace I'll just history merge your sandbox and the article since there won't be any intervening edits. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:51, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::OK. I was also thinking of using the new [[WP:DRAFTS|draft space]] feature, unless I can find a lot of good stuff for him. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 23:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, that does make sense. I really haven't been following the draft space news though. I should get up to speed. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::It just started a few days ago, so no worries. :) I will start a user page draft, and then probably sometime later this week I will move to drafts if I can't build it up enough on my own. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 01:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sounds good to me. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:29, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Emmitt Smith]] ==<br />
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The PC protection will end for almost a week. I believe that extra protection time is needed; vandalism hasn't stopped yet. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 10:00, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, good catch. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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Hi Mark Arsten, user Vahram Mekhitaryan repeatedly added wrong, not related links in articles, and starting edit wars. Please take some action against it.--[[User:Δαβίδ|Δαβίδ]] ([[User talk:Δαβίδ|talk]]) 10:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:{{tps}} Provide diffs. [[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) 10:17, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::That user repeatedly adding original research statement ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_Eternity_sign&diff=586500771&oldid=586488241]), which has been removed per discussion at talk page, but he readding it again. <br />
::Adding non related links ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=586501449&oldid=586490944], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=586762861&oldid=586682962], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=587209306&oldid=587116534]). Besides, reverting edits with uncertain/wrong explainations in edit summary.<br />
::He was previosly blocked 3 times for edit war in same article.--[[User:Δαβίδ|Δαβίδ]] ([[User talk:Δαβίδ|talk]]) 10:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Hmm, I think it might be best to take him to [[WP:ANI]] now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:23, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RFPP ==<br />
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Hi Mark Arsten, thanks for all the great work you've been doing at RFPP recently; I see your name appear in my watchlist there every day. :) Hope you've been having a pleasant holiday season, too! Best. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 18:49, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, it feels good to keep the backlogs at bay. Best holiday wishes to you too. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:55, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== More pages pending changes ==<br />
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Protection time of [[Vivek Oberoi]] is running out; there are still vandals out there. I'll mention more later. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 19:53, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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What about [[Bidisha]] and [[Friday the 13th (franchise)]]? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 20:12, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I've extended Vivek, but I don't see much recent vandalism on the other two. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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What about [[Paoli Dam]] and [[Uri Sebag]]? [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 06:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Repeat IP vandal (under many different IP addresses) ==<br />
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Mark, yesterday I reported a persistent vandal on [[A Katy or a Gaga]] and other ''Glee'' articles who had finally strayed into 3RR territory, and the user, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.69.116.46 76.69.116.46], was blocked for 24 hours. Said user is back today under IP [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.91.131.143 174.91.131.143], making the same edits trying to add Care Bears directors and writers to this particular episode's info. (I've just now reverted the edits, but don't expect the reversion to hold unless action is taken.)<br />
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As noted, this has been happening since early November. (November 9: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.91.129.253 174.91.129.253]; November 15 and 18: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.95.201.175 174.95.201.175]; December 7: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.148.91.202 184.148.91.202]; December 21: 76.69.116.46; and now early on December 23 with 174.91.131.143). If there's anything you can do to slow this vandal down, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 03:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I protected for now. I'll look into it more tomorrow. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, Mark. Oddly, 174.91.131.143 made another problematic edit of [[Glee (season 5)]] this morning, but that edit was adjusted by IP 69.77.173.156 a couple of hours later. Both were Care Bears–related, so I have to assume they're both by the same editor. Might you be able to block both addresses? [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 14:26, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Mark, I've just been reverted by that new IP, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.77.173.156 69.77.173.156], on [[Glee (season 5)]]. Unfortunately, I have three edits that could be called reversions already today (two from this vandal, and one from someone who broke the episode table), so I'm basically out of commission there; I'll have to leave this in your hands, Care Bear misinformation and all. Thanks for anything you can do. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 18:30, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, I think that's enough about Care Bears for now, I've blocked a couple IPs, let me know if more pop up doing the same thing. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Many thanks. I'll let you know if more IPs appear. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 19:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ==<br />
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[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) is wishing you a [[Mary Poppins|Merry]] [[Christmas]]! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> <br />
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</div> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.<br />
:Thanks, Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Need Help ==<br />
This user: The Red Pen of Doom is reverting my edits unnecessarily and writing his own information using my identified sources.He being a wikipedia editor has the right to alter any wrong information but he is deleting the entire text added by me to the page [[Ajaz Khan]] and writing his own text on the page. When there was no content available on this page then this user didn't make any efforts in adding information in this article but when i added verifiable information then he deleted the entire content added by me and used my sources to add his new content. I request you to please look into this matter. If i did any mistake i will accept it with no argument.Thank you.--[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) 09:15, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, first things first, have you tried discussing the matter on the article's talk page (or the user's talk page)? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Ok.. I'll try to talk to him and sort it out through his talk page.Thanks.--[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) 09:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Styrofoam King ==<br />
Thank you for your action on this editor. I should point out though that this is the same user as [[Прискорбные]], who has previously been banned for sock puppetry having made numerous vandalism upon the [[Phil Collins]] page.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 19:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, let me know if you see him pop up again. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:43, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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the user was also previously vandalizing and blocked under the name [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_Somerville], so he's guaranteed to come back.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 20:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Collins&curid=153557&diff=587421444&oldid=587287976 this] (the text you dispute) is not truly [[WP:Vandalism]]; see how Wikipedia defines vandalism. From what I see, that text you removed is simply a summary of what is lower in the article (a very short summary of Collins being controversial, in addition to the note about his success) and is therefore [[WP:Lead]]-compliant. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 21:45, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], since it is a sock that is trying to push it, it most definitely is not compliant with policies and guidelines. [[User:Nymf|Nymf]] ([[User talk:Nymf|talk]]) 21:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes, anyone is free to revert edits that are made in evasion of a block. Whether a particular edit ''should'' be reverted is a judgment call--we don't have to revert a particular edit just because a banned user made it. Note that this is apparently [[User:The abominable Wiki troll]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Nymf, it still is not vandalism, and that is my point on this matter. It is WP:Lead-compliant, though is perhaps not needed...since the information immediately before that states that Collins has attracted significant criticism (and directs readers to the Criticism section). What is not compliant with Wikipedia on this matter is that it is a [[WP:Sockpuppet]] adding it. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:05, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], I'll agree to disagree on that. The user obviously does not like [[Phil Collins]] and is [[Wikipedia:VANDALISM#Gaming_the_system|gaming the system]] to get his opinion across. [[User:Nymf|Nymf]] ([[User talk:Nymf|talk]]) 22:17, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The difference is that I was/am solely focusing on the text (except for mentioning the editor in my second comment in this section and now); you were/are mostly focusing on the editor. The text is not vandalism, but, yes, we'll agree to disagree on this one. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:21, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], thanks for your comment. I removed it because it was submitted by a troll who has taken on several user names and previously and repeatedly submitted into the lead that Collins was "The Antichrist" and "The most hated man in rock", which was judged by other users to be opinionated and inappropriate for the lead. While I consider criticism of Collins to be very significant, this guy has an agenda.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 22:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I understand. Your rationale on this matter makes good sense. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:28, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Good Tidings and all that ...==<br />
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[[File:Bolas navideñas.jpg|100px]] [[User:Bzuk|FWiW Bzuk]] ([[User talk:Bzuk|talk]]) 19:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Hi==<br />
You might want to take a look at IP 92.30.211.5 as well as that IP has made similar death threats and are probably the same person.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 23:32, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I can not prove anything ofcourse, but I would have looked once more at any connection between user TreasuryTag and the IPs. Why did this IP contact that user a (problem user) who has not been active since August. Just a suggestion to check that out.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 23:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Wow, there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I'll have to get up to speed on this. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No worries. But I am now confident that TreasuryTag has a connection to the IPs which is a clear violation of the guidelines concerninh him for the 41st time. Anyway, take a look. Merry Christmas.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 07:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey thanks, and what did he say? ==<br />
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Thanks for cleaning up the Young Turks stuff, and I assume he's made more threats at me. Curious what he said? [[User:Greg Salter|Greg Salter]] ([[User talk:Greg Salter|talk]]) 23:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Something about the transmission of HIV through incest. He was posting that on all the Young Turks articles for a while. Not sure what Cenak ever did to him, but, oh well. This reminds me, want me to semi-protect your userpage since he keeps comeing back? I should extend the offer to [[User:Jarkeld]] as well. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Aleah Chapin ==<br />
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Hi, not sure this is the place to reply to your email.<br />
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I am the sponsor of the commission you indicated you needed a source for. What further sourcing do you need, besides my saying I have paid for the commission?<br />
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David / Jennysup<br />
:Well, do you have a link to a website or newspaper that confirms the information? Per our [[WP:V|verifiability policy]] we need to see evidence that confirms that facts. Unfortunately we can't just take your word for it. Sorry! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:52, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inland taipan ==<br />
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The problem, Mark, is that the IP user we are dealing with is not well versed about the subject he's editing. In my opinion, we are dealing with nothing more than a younger individual who has a fixed imaginary/fantasy vision of what the Inland taipan ''should'' be (sort of the way I used to think of tigers when I was a child), rather than focus on what it ''is'' by being unbiased and objective. His poor writing and his poor reading comprehension arose suspicion in me about plagiarism. This lead me to make use of duplicate detector and he is in violation of [[WP:CV]]. Numerous other Wikipedia policies and guidelines have been violated by this IP user over and over again. Warnings didn't stop him. When we try to edit to fix some of these problems he quickly reverts them. He is not willing to comply with anything nor is he willing to work with me (or the other editors who have seemingly given up) in improving the article. He is an obsessed fanatic. I and some of the other editors have degrees on the very subject matter - but he refuses to allow us to edit. In my opinion, he simply needs to be given an indefinite block. I believe it is necessary to save this article and to save a lot of editors from problems. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, ''mea culpa'' I've changed it from full protection to semi-protection and extended the duration. An indefinite block isn't really an option here. We try not to indefinitely block IPs, and in this case he seems to be jumping around from IP to IP, which would greatly hinder the effectiveness of any blocks. I think semi-protection is the best bet at this point for that reason. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thank you. This is for the best. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 04:24, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Catherine Gross deletion ==<br />
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The documentation of what is essentially a secret society is difficult at best, but I am working on updating the page and references as much as possible. I direct you to the pages of Gloria Brame and Viola Johnson as well as the Kink Aware Professionals page where you will see her name. Links were also removed from SouthEast LeatherFest of which Ms. Gross is the Producer.<br />
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A comment was posted about the awards she received being "minor" but the person who commented says they do not know the origin of the awards. Awards Ms. Gross has received are nationally recognized awards in the leather community, and in no way are considered minor at all. If you look at the Leather Journal link, you will see Ms. Gross listed as an award recipient. This is a well respected publication both nationally and internationally in the leather community. Here is a link for your quick reference: http://www.theleatherjournal.com/pantheon/61-list-of-pantheon-of-leather-awards-all-time-recipients<br />
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You can see Ms. Gross listed on the Leather Archives & Museum site as a Board member http://www.leatherarchives.org/contact/contact.htm Additionally, a book edited by Peter Tupper to be published in 2015 discussing the "firsts" in the leather community specifically names Ms. Gross http://petertupper.com/2013/02/23/editing-the-history-of-consensual-master-slave-relationships/.<br />
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I would also like to refer you to the folllwing page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Southeast_Leatherfest_(2nd_nomination)where you will see comments pertaining to the difficulty in finding sources due to the privacy and secrecy of the community. While some aspects of the community are beginning to open, it is still a huge challenge to find the supporting documentation.<br />
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I do understand the need for proper citations as much as possible, and again, I'm working on that to the best of my ability. I appreciate your assistance in this matter. If it is not possible to restore the page, I respectfully request a copy of the page. Thank you.<br />
[[User:Mike Shore|Mike Shore]] ([[User talk:Mike Shore|talk]]) 02:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, really what we need to have an article on her is "significant coverage in reliable sources", see [[WP:GNG]]. The deletion of the article isn't meant as an insult to her or her accomplishments, but we have very particular rules about independent sourcing in biographies. Also, articles need to be written neutrally, we can't accept articles that seem like they're promoting an person, see [[WP:NPOV]]. If you'd like to have the article restored, the first step is to create a neutrally written, well sourced draft about her. See [[WP:DRAFT]] for details. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:02, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*Mark- thank you so much for your response. Is it possible for you to send me a copy of the page so that I might use that as a reference and work on getting it up to appropriate standards? My email is mikeshore212@yahoo.com Thank you. [[User:Mike Shore|Mike Shore]] ([[User talk:Mike Shore|talk]]) 20:18, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Sure, will do. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RfPP Tips ==<br />
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A few things to know. Cyberbot no longer follows redirects. Also placing {{tlx|rfpp|n}} sets a 24 hour timeout on the request. That means you don't need to slap another tag on there to have the bot archive it. Merry Christmas.—[[User:C678|<span style="color:green;font-family:Neuropol">cyber<span style="color:red">power]] <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline</sub>[[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas]] 03:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, that's good to hear. For some reason a lot of redirects need protecting... sigh. Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:56, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== SafeMinds reinstatement ==<br />
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Where do things stand on SafeMinds as a Wiki page? As indicated, I am new to all of this and must admit, I am not Wiki savvy. So, there is a learning deficit here that must be acknowledged, thanks.<br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 05:56, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I replied below. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[WP:Edit warring]] going on at [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)]] ==<br />
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Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_for_page_protection#Wikipedia:Notability_.28people.29_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 this], I was just about to ask you if perhaps that page should be full-protected. Then I went to [[WP:Request for page protection]] and thought that perhaps it's already listed there. I have not had the Wikipedia:Notability (people) page on my [[WP:Watchlist]] for long (about a week now), and I might not have it on there for much longer. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 06:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I would have protected it a while ago, but since I close some Afds on the subject I was worried that it could create the perception of bias if I protect the "wrong version" of the notability guideline. It sure looks bad to have admins and other veteran contributors edit warring like that on an official guideline so I broke down and protected it. I guess I don't personally have an opinion on the disputed content to be honest, but I guess I'll just skip over the Afds that hinge on the disputed passage of the guideline in the future. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 07:22, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yep, I understood the rationale you gave at WP:Request for page protection, and thanks for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Notability_%28people%29&curid=286178&diff=587485601&oldid=587485567 going ahead and protecting that page.] As for the edit war that was going on there, you and [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Notability_%28people%29&curid=7318428&diff=587481645&oldid=587478083 summed it up well.] I wonder if BusterD watches your talk page and if my initial post here about this matter led him to comment there about it. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 07:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, I think it needs an uninvolved admin to step in and say "Consensus is X--discussion over". That whole talk page is a mess at this point. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 07:46, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::(edit conflict) I do watch Mark's talk page. I've been watching this situation with growing dismay for several days, and the discussion for much longer. I'll avoid taking a side, but the warring actions taken by some on both sides do not shower any in the discussion with glory. I was writing an RFC to appear under my comment. The issue needs a broader set of eyes. BTW, is there a WP:BURDEN related to policy and guideline changes? It seems to me that the party making the change needs defend the change, not those restoring the original guideline. Am I incorrect? [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 07:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::: Normally that would be the case, but in a case like here, where the alternative is not so much between two different proposed versions of a rule but basically just between the validity of a rule and its mere absence, the only logically tenable principle is the other way round: there has to be a demonstrable continuing consensus ''for'' a rule in order for it to be valid, so a demonstrable state of "no consensus" must lead to its removal rather than its preservation. This is simply because guidelines are meant to be descriptive, not prescriptive, and a valid guideline is, by definition, that which has consensus. Therefore, demonstrable lack of consensus in (including a persistent pattern of the rule being overridden in practice) logically entails that the guideline is invalid and has to be struck. There is also a practical reason for this: demanding active consensus for removal (rather than active consensus for its retention) would make it far too easy for small bands of determined filibusterers to keep a rule in place forever – which is precisely what has been happening here for years. That's the reason for the exasperation that has led to this recent bout of warring. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 08:32, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Thanks for the comment. I better understand your point now. I've been noticing the exasperation for quite some time. I've taken the liberty of creating a request for comment. Does anybody see something in my request or my comment afterwards which needs changing? [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 08:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::: Thanks. Maybe you could consider shortening the intro to the RfC a bit; right now it doesn't seem to make it quite clear what its intended scope is (as you are asking some more questions in the intro text than the one you put at the top). Please also note that several people have already been providing endorsement !votes to pretty much exactly the same question in the discussion above. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 09:04, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Ok, I think this will be a good way to solve the issue. Being able to point to the results of a formal Rfc closed in your favor always goes a long way to silence opposition. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:04, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection ==<br />
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Hello Sir I Request you to Please Semi-protect my user Page<br />
[[User:Mark Assq|Mark Assq]] ([[User Talk:Mark Assq|talk]]/[[Special:Contribution/User:Mark Assq|contribs]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 08:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Need support and advice for BLP == <br />
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Hi Mark, I've been updating one of the pages you deleted recently (Sayo Kosugi) and need your help to make it right. PROD was based on unsourced BLP, so I added some relevant references in the article, which I thought solved the issue, but probably it wasn't enough to validate. Could you help me understand better not to make a same mistake and make it right? Thanks! Aki 05:47, 24 December 2013 (JST) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Makwn|Makwn]] ([[User talk:Makwn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Makwn|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:The issue was that we need independent sources that discuss the individual, see [[WP:IRS]] (think newspapers, books, magazines, etc.). If you can find such sources, you are free to recreate the article as long as you [[WP:Cite|cite them in the article]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:24, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Mark! I put 5 direct sources with citation discussing the article and put them in the reference list but was deleted and want to know the reasons. One was from the symphony orchestra, another was from Juilliard school but do you think those aren't independent enough to be cited? Thanks! Aki 10:50, 28 December 2013 (JST) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/204.57.75.30|204.57.75.30]] ([[User talk:204.57.75.30|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== SafeMinds reinstatement ==<br />
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Mr. Arsten --<br />
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I have looked back into the archives and found your response on Autism File as a reputable media outlet. Can you elaborate on what is needed to gain reinstatement if this is not acceptable and the mentions in mainstream media are unacceptable? <br />
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Here's some additional input:<br />
SafeMinds members have testified before Congress and Congress recognizes SafeMinds as a legitimate organization. Would that transcript <ref>http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Blaxill-Testimony-Bio-TnT.pdf</ref> suffice? <br />
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Our members continue to participate as representatives <ref>http://iacc.hhs.gov/about/member-bios.shtml#public-members</ref> of the affected families on government committees as a representative for SafeMinds. Is that acceptable? <br />
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I don't follow why this continues to fail to meet your thresholds of recognition as a legitimate organization... including the annual ongoing IRS 990 filings on income/expenditure and recognition by the IRS that we are a 501(c)(3) organization formed in the state of Illinois and the numerous links that come up when researching the organization through Wiki's own websearch tools. <br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 14:59, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Also, please elaborate on why Autism Files is not considered a reliable source? I don't see where this news outlet fails to meet wiki RS criteria.<br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 15:07, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't believe that Autism File is a reliable source, as it appears to promote [[WP:FRINGE]] content. The Daily Mail isn't a very good source, but my appraisal was based on [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1023351/The-great-autism-rip---How-huge-industry-feeds-parents-desperate-cure-children.html this article]. Unfortunately, testifying before Congress and participating as representatives does not necessarily demonstrate notability. It doesn't appear to me that there is enough coverage of your group to merit its own article, but if you disagree you are free to appeal the deletion at [[WP:DRV]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:28, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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The mention in a questionable outlet (your own words) from 2008 seems rather thin for justifying [[WP:FRINGE]] - if the passing mention of a questionable outlet placing advertising and receiving promotion from years past forever condemns a periodical to this status, then most all publications and organizations would be suspect... <br />
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As far as [[WP:DRV]], I find your responses to what has been provided for creating substantive evidence on SafeMinds existence as a credible organization as indicative of uncertainty on the deletion. Thanks for your indications on the means to move forward for reinstatement. <br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 22:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Date vandal ==<br />
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Hi Mark, may I trouble you to take at IP editor [[Special:Contributions/68.0.216.233|68.0.216.233]]. If I report the user to AIV now, it'll just get ignored for insufficient warnings, but this IP is clearly on a date-faking campaign. In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Even_Stevens_Movie&diff=587527637&oldid=566119631 these 2 edits] the user introduces deliberate factual error at The Even Stevens Movie. The film was released on June 13, 2003, but the user changed that to June 11, 2004, and also massively changed other dates. User also vandalized dates [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seven_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587533437 here at Seven (film)] where they changed the release date from September 22, 1995 ([http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/seven/ source]) to June 7, 1996. Looking through some of their other edits, I noticed massive date changes [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Malcolm_in_the_Middle_episodes&diff=587532131&oldid=587000671 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Negotiator&diff=prev&oldid=587538128 here]. There is also a piece of subtle vandalism [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bridgette_Wilson&diff=prev&oldid=587164204 here] where the user moved Mortal Kombat down in the list and changed the release year from 1995 to 1996. Anyhow, the user is obviously here to vandalize. Thanks for your help, [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:27, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the detailed explanation, I think there's enough to justify a block if he keeps it up. He hasn't edited since your warning, so I'll hold off on blocking for now and check back later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Cool, thanks. As I revert I'm noticing a lot of 1995 dates being changed to 1996. Bot? [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:31, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Hmm, not sure, perhaps. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Maybe not. He misspelled October two different ways in one edit. What a hollow existence--finding new tedious ways to insert false information into Wikipedia articles? Geez. Here are the edits that I double-checked for accuracy at RottenTomatoes (some are dupes of above). [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Even_Stevens_Movie&diff=prev&oldid=587540309][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lara_Croft:_Tomb_Raider&diff=prev&oldid=587542727][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mortal_Kombat_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587542792][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_of_Time_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587542846][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=7_(disambiguation)&diff=prev&oldid=587542897][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seven_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587543389][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bridgette_Wilson&diff=prev&oldid=587543777][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Klaus_Badelt&diff=prev&oldid=587543984] [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:45, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:12, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your alter ego ==<br />
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hafspajen&diff=587578447&oldid=587578411 Your alter ego] left a message on my talk page. I think somebody is trying to make fun of you. (Bad taste). [[User:Hafspajen|Hafspajen]] ([[User talk:Hafspajen|talk]]) 00:11, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sounds like someone had too much Eggnog! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes. {{smiley}} [[User:Hafspajen|Hafspajen]] ([[User talk:Hafspajen|talk]]) 16:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Happy Holidays to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Please Give Me Another Chance, Help me and Let me re.edit my page ==<br />
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Hello Mark Arsten, I am Mark Ludwig Labastida, I am a high school physics teacher at Tagum National Trade School for 2 years. Ever since I knew about wiki, I have been starting to depend on it, researching for almost every projects and assignment I had way back when I was a student.<br />
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Last December 23, 2013 I started to make/ write my first wiki page entitled The Big Five Pageants Ranks (I guess other wiki user/editor renamed it into The Five major beauty pageant) and it is a better name than mine indeed.<br />
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Just now I noticed that my page was temporarily protected, I have mixed emotions actually, I was a little sad because my page is subject for deletion. I am also very MUCH happy and shocked because I just can't believe that the admin: Mark Arsten was the one who keep my page protected.<br />
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Thank you for giving my page some time to be checked by you sir. If you could give me a chance to improve my article it would be my honor to do so. It would also be a great to receive some advice from you on how can I make my page more effective. :) I would love to be one of the wiki editors/user. To help the wiki community.<br />
:You'll be [[WP:AUTOCONFIRMED|autoconfirmed]] in a day or so, which will allow you to edit the page then. Please take care to abide by our policies on [[WP:COPYVIO|copyright violations]] though when you do. Let me know if you have any more questions. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== inre [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Truth About Lies (film)]] ==<br />
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The original version of the article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Truth_About_Lies_%28film%29&diff=587449996&oldid=431036856 from 2011] was based upon on old and inaccurate source. Further research shows the project began filming December 2013 and is now in post-production. I made corrections/expansions to the article to address the original author's errors and have added a different set of "''Find sources''" at the AFD. I think the now-better-sourced and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Truth_About_Lies_%28film%29&ent now slightly improved article]. What you think? '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 02:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, I'll try to check it out later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas==<br />
Merry Christmas Mark, glad to see I'm not the only one crazy enough to be patrolling too early on Christmas Day! <font face="chiller"><font color="red"><b>[[User:Jimfbleak|Jimfbleak]] - </b></font></font><font face="arial"><font color="green">[[User talk:Jimfbleak| talk to me?]]</font></font> 06:58, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:07, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Glee'' IP back, now messing with my user page ==<br />
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Mark, the IP that you blocked for vandalizing "[[A Katy or a Gaga]]" and [[Glee (season 5)]] is back as 173.206.72.5, and added this fake [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BlueMoonset&diff=prev&oldid=587694439 DYK credit] for "A Katy or a Gaga", including the usual Care Bears association, to my user page. Needless to say, I'm about to revert it. Blocking the new IP address would be welcome. Many thanks. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 03:47, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Huh, very odd. Well, I've blocked that IP, but something tells me we haven't seen the last of him... [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. Well, his favorite target pages are unavailable, so it's not hugely surprising that someone that persistent is finding other outlets. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 05:49, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Hounding? HA! see [[WP:AGF]] ==<br />
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how dare u accuse me of having ANYTHANG to do with Ryulong?! Sir, my name is Ron I went to University of Miami and love anime shit. I dont want to talk to u anymore. Read the rules. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 20:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:[[WP:AGF]] is a great policy, but sometimes coincidences just become too much. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:20, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::just what r u trying to say? Spit it out Mary, I mean!, Mark... [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 20:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::What I mean is if you continue to create the appearance that you're here to bother Ryulong you'll be blocked. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:39, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Bangerter Machine Gun page Removal? ==<br />
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Can you please advise me of the information that brought you to the decision to remove the page regarding the Bangerter Machine Gun? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.37.107.41|68.37.107.41]] ([[User talk:68.37.107.41|talk]]) 20:53, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:You can see the reasons for the deletion here: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bangerter machine gun]]. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:59, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Yes I just found that page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.37.107.41|68.37.107.41]] ([[User talk:68.37.107.41|talk]]) 21:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== [[User:Mwara thuku]] ==<br />
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He's back, making edits using [[User:66.37.51.4]] as well. What's problematic is that people are reverting his edits, and trying to leave him messages on his talk page, and he just keeps inserting this nonsense. Would you mind taking a look? --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 22:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Alright, I've blocked per [[WP:CIR]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 22:17, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:ErikHaugen]] ==<br />
Mark - I could use some help. This user has deleted an entire page I added by citing "unambiguous copyright violation"; when I requested proof he deleted the page. This is not the first of my recent edit this user is trolling and I am gravely displeased. Please take a look at my talk page for his comments. I sent him message and received no reply at the time of this writing. I would like the "Kahal Kadosh" page returned in entirety. Jaim Harlow [jimharlow99] 22:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:What is the exact title of the page you'd like me to look at? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:: Erik Haugen deleted the following page: <br />
:::(Deletion log); 18:59 . . ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) deleted page [[Kahal Kadosh Beth Shalome]] (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement)<br />
:: I am requesting that it be restored. There was no copyright infringement - he made it up out of thin air and didn't possess the stones to exchange discussion. He fabricated "copyright infringement" claim where there was none. Here is my talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimharlow99 Jaim Harlow 02:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I've replied at [[User_talk:Jimharlow99]]. [[User:ErikHaugen|ErikHaugen]] <small>([[User talk:ErikHaugen|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/ErikHaugen|contribs]])</small> 06:04, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Ketchup ==<br />
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You have reverted a section about the HP works in Birmingham which seems to have been added quite inappropriately, possibly to disguise the insult to yourself which is buried within it. [[User:Chemical Engineer|Chemical Engineer]] ([[User talk:Chemical Engineer|talk]]) 22:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Ditto your reversion of removal of inappropriate material to [[Koala]] - you have inadvertently blocked the wrong user (who correctly removed the material), instead of the person who put it there (including more buried insults). Cheers, [[User:Bahudhara|Bahudhara]] ([[User talk:Bahudhara|talk]]) 23:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oops, my mistake - I've just looked into it a bit further - it now appears that both users are socks - "(the first sock) inserted false info and used a malicious sock to revert the addition, hoping someone would add it back. These new socks operate on the same MO" - and this is what happened in this case too. Cheers, [[User:Bahudhara|Bahudhara]] ([[User talk:Bahudhara|talk]]) 23:54, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, there are some very silly socks running around :) [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:57, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
*Thanks guys, I was actually tricked here. The user adding the vandalism as well as the user removing the vandalism were being controlled by the same banned user, who tries to trick people that way. So they're both (rightfully) blocked at this point and the text is gone from the article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:56, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Copyvios by Thundrplaya ==<br />
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I noticed that you blocked Thundrplaya this summer for copyright violations. Well, I found another one at [[Nebraska Cornhuskers men's basketball]]. Which likely means there may be more. I know this user hasn't edited since November, but it may be a good idea to check his edits for copyright problems. [[User:HangingCurve|HangingCurve]]<sup>[[User talk:HangingCurve|Swing for the fence]]</sup> 23:41, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, thanks for the note. I'll try to look into that later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== AfD closure ==<br />
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Mark, would you mind taking a look at this AfD [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/On_Combat:_The_Psychology_and_Physiology_of_Deadly_Conflict_in_War_and_in_Peace]? It's been relisted twice, last time was 10 days ago. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 00:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, that's a complicated one. I've looked at it a few times, but it's a hard call to make since it's so close. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::*I know I'm biased because of my vote, but it looks like a no consensus to me. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 17:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A Simple Plan (film) ==<br />
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Thank you for protecting ''[[A Simple Plan (film)|A Simple Plan]]''. But, can you please revert the most recent addition of original research and analysis? Thanks! ---<font face="Georgia">'''[[User:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#009900">The Old Jacobite</span>]]'''</font><font face="Courier New"><sub>''[[User talk:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#006600">The '45</span>]]''</sub></font> 00:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I generally don't revert to a specific version after protecting a page. I suggest you make an edit request on the talk page and ask for a revert there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/The Party Posse Band/Archive]] ==<br />
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Mark, I'm confused by what happened here. I understand that of the three accounts, The Party Posse Band was the oldest and should be the master, as opposed to Be Sharps (band), but there are two problems with the way it's configured now. First, we've "lost" the third account, [[User:Posse band]]. Second, the tagging is wrong. The master is not tagged, but Be Sharps is tagged as the master (because I didn't know there was an earlier one). Is there a way to fix all this, or am I missing something? the tagging, of course, is easy to fix, but I'm going to wait until I hear back from you. Thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sorry for the mixup. I've changed the tags on The Party Posse Band and the Be Sharps (band) and added Posse band to the SPI. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:39, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, is there a way to get back my comments? In other words, the archive should show two reports instead of only one. My comments were somewhat important because the users were not advertising real things but creating hoaxes. If it's too difficult, I'll live. :-) --[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:57, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, I see what the issue was, I forgot to merge one section. I've done so now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Perfect!--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | At Wikipedia we sometimes call our admins mop-wielders. You sir, are the most moppy of wielders or the most wieldy of moppers (your choice). Thank you for your dedication in cleaning up tasks that others don't make the time for. Your behind-the-scenes cleaning makes this encyclopedia run smoothy -- [[User:ТимофейЛееСуда|'''Тимофей''']][[User_talk:ТимофейЛееСуда|'''<font color="#00f00ff">ЛееСуда</font>''']]. 02:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the note, I really appreciate it. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Hi==<br />
Could you take a look at the edits of IP 24.209.194.7 he is adding information that is obviously not appreciated as his edits are often reverted but the user seems unwilling to change even after being told several times. Regards,--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 16:11, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I left another message for him, we'll see how he responds and then work from there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Good.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 16:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry to bother you again, but there is a IP who has made a threat against another user and also is making unconstructive edits. IP 118.165.20.203 . Regards,--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 17:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I think I got him. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Hello Mark==<br />
Hello Mark. <br />
I updated my husbands information ( Peter Cartwright. Actor) you left me a message saying " You have removed it" <br />
I fail to understand why? I simply added that he had married and then passed away. Can you please explain why this is not acceptable ?<br />
You can contact me<br />
Regards<br />
Peggy Cartwright ( Peters Wife) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 17:47, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi, sorry for the misunderstanding. There were a couple problems with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Cartwright_(actor)&diff=prev&oldid=587828637 this edit]. When you add a claim to a Wikipedia article, you need to include a source with your edit that we can verify. This prevents pranksters from adding claims of death to articles about living people, something we've had many problems with in the past. Also, while I am very sorry for your loss, we don't use language like "is sadly missed" in article. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:09, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hello Mark. Thank you for your reply. What should I do now? Add the info again? Or will you add it?<br />
Peggy Cartwright <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 00:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:We can add the information back in, but we'd need to see an obituary or an article first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Sandra Griffin Management Ltd<br />
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A selection of our clients current and recent engagements.<br />
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It is with regret that we announce, that PETER CARTWRIGHT passed away on Monday 21st November. Ever the gentleman, and ever the professional, he will be sadly missed. If you would like to call his Agent Sandra Griffin Management Ltd , Twickenham or look on her website you will see death of <br />
Peter .. Which she has made a mistake he past on the evening of Monday 18th November 2013 ..Peggy Cartwright <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 13:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:That would probably work, just make sure you link to the official website when you add that to the article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks Mark==<br />
Mark I do appreciate your offer of contacting you re the article on Caledonia. I'm working on my PhD at the moment on Wyntoun's Chronicle and have four Masters Degrees. I was struck by the use of the phrase 'in what is now Scotland'. It is perfectly acceptable to use it. It is equally acceptable simply to refer to 'Scotland' as it is not necessary to correct every potential anachronism. Ionesco key factor in this is the question of consistency across articles and within them. So, Ireland which in this article and on others is not! until I altered it referred in terms like 'what is now Ireland'. Of course, like Scotland and England it was also during the 'Caledonian' period ruled by petty or sub kings and had not attained to political unity and was not then known as Ireland either linguistically or politically. That is why I have made this particular alteration. It is certainly not vandalism and is not incorrect. You will find few, very few countries to which Wikipedia editors are applying the same rules to as to references to Scotland... This is pretty obviously unacceptable. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.22.50.94|82.22.50.94]] ([[User talk:82.22.50.94|talk]]) 00:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but I saw you write [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caledonia&diff=prev&oldid=587997323 "Roman military incursions into central and northern Scotland,we're fleeting."] and assumed you were vandalizing. Feel free to continue to edit the page. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:59, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Candidate for deletion==<br />
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Hello Mark, the page I created is candidate for deletion. Last December 24, you had it protected. I did some revisions and edits on the page I also cited sources and links to make it more reliable and more informative. I hope you could check the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_major_beauty_pageants and you could give me some advice on how to make it better. The page will I think be deleted on December 31 if not properly edited. Please help. Thank you. [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 02:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:To have the article kept, you'll have to present major media outlets who use the term "Five major beauty pageants" and discuss the subject in detail. It might be a better idea though to edit related topics rather than just this one article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Is it possible if I will edit also other pages by mentioning this page: [[Five major beauty pageants]] on theirs?[[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 03:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:That's ok, but ''only'' if you have a published reference that connects the other pages to that subject. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok I will. Thank you :)[[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 03:40, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Mark, I already edited these pages:<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_World<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_International<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Earth and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Supranational.<br />
Thank you Mark.. [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 04:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*I've removed the most recent edits to each of these pages, as they only attempted to confirm the unsupported and unsourced claim of '5 major pageants.' As I've suggested elsewhere, this appears to be part of a persistent attempt to promote a recently established contest by conferring it 'major' status on Wikipedia. It's something akin to spamming, is disruptive, and given the discussions at multiple pages and canvassing at numerous others, suggests a willful ignorance of guidelines. Thanks, [[User:JNW|JNW]] ([[User talk:JNW|talk]]) 08:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I understand if ever you will delete the page. I fully understand that we are just trying to keep the Wikipedia's reputation and its good standing in the web for online research. I still wish and hope that someday I can be part of your team. My apology for my desire (maybe undesirable) to keep the page. Thank you for the experience of editing I have learned a lot. Thank you also for the people/editors /contributors I came to talk with. It was really a great experience. Sir, if you have time please feel free to know me more. I am 27 years old physics high school teacher from Philippines. Here's my facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/Markimatics :) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 12:15, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Deleted image was removed from article by vandal ==<br />
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You recently deleted the image [[:File:Southern Methodist University Seal.gif|File:Southern Methodist University Seal.gif]] because it was an orphaned non-free file unused in an article for more than one week. I took a look at the article history for [[Southern Methodist University]], and the image was removed by a couple IP editors as part of a series of vandal edits that were only partially reverted. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southern_Methodist_University&diff=585236874&oldid=583116816 Here's the beginning and ending of those edits]. Can you restore the deleted image so it can be relinked to the article? Thanks. [[User:Mabeenot|–Mabeenot]] ([[User talk:Mabeenot|talk]]) 03:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sorry for the mixup, it's been undeleted now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:37, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Polimoda revision ==<br />
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Sir, someone manipulated the "polimoda" page and added "It is not listed by the Italian ministry of education, the Ministero dell'Istruzione, dell'Università e della Ricerca, among the institutions authorised to award degrees in music, dance and the arts.[4]" which is not true.<br />
Polimoda is accredited and recognised by the region of tuscany and the comune di firenze e prato.<br />
Please kindly make a research and make the page look appropriate for this famous prestigious fashion school.<br />
http://www.polimoda.com/en/about-us.html <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.46.156.76|41.46.156.76]] ([[User talk:41.46.156.76|talk]]) 05:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:You should bring this up on the articles talk page and try to start a discussion there. Let me know how it turns out, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== What're ya tryin to do? ==<br />
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I remember u btw. That kid is not listening to reason, [[Talk:List of Dragon Ball characters#Manga spellings?!]] is about the recient changes to the page. U should be on my side, yet ur in favour of permablocking me?! Watever Im watching the threads. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I didn't say I'm in favor of blocking you, no. Nor do I have an opinion on the content dispute. You seem like you're looking for conflict though, which raises red flags coming from a new user. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::What?! All I EVER wanted was the best for wiki, and am met with constant opposition. Look, check the links and know that Im telling the truth. Xfansz or watever his or her name is lying about "Viz names" cause theyre REDIRECTS! Check it out dude. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Constantly being met with opposition may be a sign that you should change your approach, no? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:50, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Im afraid not. At least Huron is on my side. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Please Protect My Page ==<br />
HelloMark, I would like to ask your help to have this page be protected. I am planning to finish this page before the year ends. Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_Named_After_Jose_Rizal. Thank you so much :) [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 06:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but we generally only protect pages if there are problems with vandalism, copyright violations, or other issues. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== editors ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
no doubt you will simply ignore this and then block my account, but can you please explain why you won't let blocked editors create a new account? If they continue to create trouble then yes fair enough you should block them, but it seems no one even bothers to find out why people do the things that they are doing, most of the time they do believe they are right even if they're not it might be a matter of opinion. Just ignoring it and telling them they are a vandal then blocking them without even listening to them is totally wrong. So I beg you, let me prove to you that a second chance is worth while just for a week then if you really feel it's not then block me and I promise I won't ever come back. But if you do, do that it will just show what sort of peeople are in charge of this site are really like. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Aaacafe|Aaacafe]] ([[User talk:Aaacafe|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aaacafe|contribs]]) 11:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Think of it this way: if someone is arrested for drunken driving and has his license suspended, if he responds by using a counterfeit license and continuing to drive during his suspension he'll get in more trouble if he's caught. Now, sockpuppetry is harmless compared to drunken driving and wiki-admins are not police, but I think the analogy basically works. If you go the duration of your block without evading it, you can be welcomed back as an editor in good standing when it ends or when you qualify for the [[WP:Standard offer|standard offer]]... that way you won't have to worry about getting more blocks from admins like me. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== More 089baby socks ==<br />
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Could you please block the newest sockpuppet: {{user|Overhadkick}}? There aren't many edits to go on, but three of them are essentially identical to one made by previous socks. Thanks in advance. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 16:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, obvious enough that I could just block him. I should protect some of those pages when I get a chance. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== No need to worry. ==<br />
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Hi, I recently reverted all the remaining edits by sockpuppets of Pumpie that were marked "current" to relive most of your workload. I was going to upload a brand new map of the Athens Metro (which has citations of course) but it's these users that delay genuine contributions like mine. Anyway, there are two remaining SPI cases for the said user. --'''[[User:Marianian|Marianian]]'''<sup>([[User_talk:Marianian|talk]])</sup> 18:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I'll try to look into it later today. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Cheema ==<br />
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[[Cheema]] has been a problem since [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cheema&diff=585763151&oldid=585758141 this edit] on 12 December. Until then, it had been stable for a good while. I've raised the issue on the talk page on a couple of occasions but feel like I'm hitting my head against a brick wall. Some might call it a slow edit war but I'm in a good mood at the moment and would rather not put someone who is apparently new-ish at the mercy of [[WP:AN3]] where a block would seem the likely outcome. [[WP:3O]] is an option, I guess, but I wonder if you could take a quick look at it. No worries if you are not so inclined or do not have the time. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 22:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, a trip to [[WP:AN3]] seems unavoidable at this point. Sorry that I can't come up with much more to say. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::OK. Thanks for taking a look at it. I'm getting fed up of having to make repeated visits to SPI, AN3 and RFPP and worry that I'm gaining a bad reputation for biting or cabal-like behaviour etc. But if needs must then the integrity of the project trumps all, I guess. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 01:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Major copyright violations made by IP user ([[Inland taipan]]) ==<br />
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* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fbillabongsanctuary.com.au%2Fnative-animals%2Freptiles%2Finland-taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Feprints.jcu.edu.au%2F11938%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20090613092123%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.qm.qld.gov.au%2Ffeatures%2Fsnakes%2Ftaipan%2Frediscovery.asp&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Faustralianmuseum.net.au%2FInland-Taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicator detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Faustralianmuseum.net.au%2FInland-Taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector] <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DendroNaja|contribs]]) 03:22, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Ok, thanks for the note, if it's not too much trouble, could you point out which revision they were first added in and which revision they were removed in? I'll revdelete the intervening edits. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:It's going to be difficult, I mean that was just after a very brief search, god knows how many copyright violations there are. The article, from my point of view as someone specialized in the field, is in shambles and the user should not be allowed to edit it ever. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 03:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, agreed. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Heads Up ==<br />
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May be a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kellogg_Company&diff=prev&oldid=588187306 sock] to add to a list?[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:02, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks and question==<br />
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Dear Sir, <br />
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I am French student and I published the Wikipedia page of Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, peinter, and you accepted it in november, I thank you for that. <br />
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Moreover, I would like to know what means the designation "Orphan page" and if I can doing something to change this statute. I read the Wikipedia explanation but I don't understand what it means precisely. <br />
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To finish, I thank you very much for your open mindedness and your interest for culture. <br />
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Thanking for your availability, I address you my wishes.<br />
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--[[User:Drapé|Drapé]] ([[User talk:Drapé|talk]]) 14:48, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ritratto_di_Dama_-_Anna_Sforza.pdf ==<br />
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Who gave you the permission to delete this file? This file contains original art historical research of more than 3 years and adds value more than anything else on the page. There is no copyright issue as I have everything clarified with all the parties having an interest in it. So please undo your change or I do it. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RESA79|RESA79]] ([[User talk:RESA79|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RESA79|contribs]]) 14:04, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mark_Arsten&diff=588215976User talk:Mark Arsten2013-12-29T14:48:48Z<p>Drapé: /* Heads Up */</p>
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<big>Welcome to my talk page, please leave new messages at the bottom of this page</big><br />
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==Mahusha==<br />
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Please help to edit [[galileo]]- professorship at pisa by adding more information.<br />
:Hmm, I'm not sure I'll be able to get around to that anytime soon. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 04:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Mahusha==<br />
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Merry christmas.<br />
:Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:05, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Mahusha==<br />
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Please say your number of edits.<br />
:I've made about 107,500 edits or so, in about 30 months. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pcount/index.php This tool] will show you how many edits each user has made. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:30, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Wow! that's amazing and Merry christmas. Will you become friend of me? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mahusha|Mahusha]] ([[User talk:Mahusha|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mahusha|contribs]]) 06:36, 25 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Sure, I would be glad to be your friend. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Mahusha==<br />
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How can I become a administrator of wikipedia, but I am auto confirmed user. [[User:Mahusha|Mahusha (talk)]]<br />
:It's not easy! You basically have to be a model Wikipedian for at least a year first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== User:PWB Health Ltd ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I've unblocked {{userlinks|PWB Health Ltd}} (which you softblocked) to allow them to request an rename. I hope you don't mind. Regards, <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 11:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No prob, thanks for handling that. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Gentle reminder ==<br />
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As mentioned further up the page, mind moving the prodded pages [[Shab-al-Hiri Roach]] and [[Durance (role-playing game)]] to my userspace please? [[User:Neonchameleon|Neonchameleon]] ([[User talk:Neonchameleon|talk]]) 15:03, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, done. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ASSISTANCE WITH FLO RIDA PAGE ==<br />
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Hello, Someone has seriously vandalized this page removing all reference to FLO RIDA song for Charity with MARC MYSTERIO which has charted internationally as well and is highly publicized.<br />
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Theyve removed Mysterio from related acts and all mentions of the single.<br />
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The song was to benefit ONE FUND BOSTON.<br />
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Can you check through the edits made on that page and revert them? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/109.76.50.30|109.76.50.30]] ([[User talk:109.76.50.30|talk]]) 19:56, 17 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:What is the exact title of the page you're referring to? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:05, 17 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== non-constructive edits ==<br />
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I just got the following message from you:<br />
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Please refrain from making nonconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Boring, Oregon with this edit. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Administrators have the ability to block users from editing if they repeatedly engage in vandalism. Thank you. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I hope you at least read the edit. (ahem!) <br />
::And I am here to announce that I find the reaction time between graffiti (or humorous edit) and Wikipedia editor is incredibly quick. So I guess- "Good Work" is in due for you. (Even if I wish my edit on Boring, Oregon would've stayed.) <br />
'''As for a possible solution/idea you may offer me:'''<br />
:No, I will not post it on the Uncyclopedia, which is over edited lame humor.<br />
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My edit was as follows:<br />
All Wikipedia contributors apologize for any sighs of boredom that the reader of this article may exhale. In the future please note that Wikipedia strives for informative information and is not responsible for readers who wish to find something not boring in an article titled "Boring, Oregon".<br />
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Cheers, --[[Special:Contributions/71.205.198.123|71.205.198.123]] ([[User talk:71.205.198.123|talk]]) 01:25, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I did find your edit humorous. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:50, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I apologize, it will not happen again. Hopefully. --[[Special:Contributions/71.205.198.123|71.205.198.123]] ([[User talk:71.205.198.123|talk]]) 01:57, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Since you've blocked the normals from Jimbo's talk page, I'll post to you ==<br />
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Russavia is posting legal threats that Jimbo might want to know about.<br />
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Jimmy_Wales_by_Pricasso_%28the_making_of%29.ogv&diff=prev&oldid=112046724<br />
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By the way, it seems kind of draconian to block that many users from Jimbo's talk page to get Mbz1. [[User:Hell might be other people|Hell might be other people]] ([[User talk:Hell might be other people|talk]]) 03:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It is unfortunate that we don't have a better solution to deal with IP-hopping disruption we do now, I agree. I was going to ignore her, but then she started edit warring, so I decided protection was merited. I suggest you use the "Email this user" function to bring this incident to Jimbo's attention. Or you could post on his Commons talk page: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales User talk:Jimbo Wales]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:10, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Would you be so kind as to post it to his en.wp talk page? I don't think he watches or responds on commons and Russavia is saying some pretty vile things about him on commons. Thanks in advance. [[User:Hell might be other people|Hell might be other people]] ([[User talk:Hell might be other people|talk]]) 03:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I have to run at the moment, but if you post the message you want added to his talk page to [[WP:RFED]] someone should copy it over. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:Bashtowndriyp]] ==<br />
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Thanks for your help with that rather messy affair. I'll keep an eye on things when he's unblocked, and so will a few others who work AfC who are aware of what's going on. Many thanks, my friend. :) [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 10:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, let me know if there are any more issues. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Savedship ==<br />
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A sockpuppet of {{User|Savedship002}} a user whom you indefinitely blocked for [[Wikipedia:Vandalism-only account|VOA]] only 18 hours ago has popped up. → {{User|Savedship001}}. &#9733;&#9734; [[User:DUCKISJAMMMY|<font color="Fuchsia">DUCK</font><font color="blue">IS</font><font color="Fuchsia">JAMMMY</font>]]&#9734;&#9733; 10:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Nevermind {{alreadydone}} by [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]]. Thanks for the previous block. &#9733;&#9734; [[User:DUCKISJAMMMY|<font color="Fuchsia">DUCK</font><font color="blue">IS</font><font color="Fuchsia">JAMMMY</font>]]&#9734;&#9733; 11:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RevisionDelete&target=Special%3ALog%2Fnewusers&type=logging&ids=53354337 RevDel] ==<br />
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Hi. Just a small thing, but it should be enough to only delete the username and not the action in these examples (''à la'' [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RevisionDelete&target=Special%3ALog%2Fnewusers&type=logging&ids=49919132]), since the phrase "was created" is not itself offensive. '''[[User:It Is Me Here|<font color="#006600">It Is Me Here</font>]]''' <sup>'''[[User_talk:It Is Me Here|<font color="#CC6600">t</font>]] / [[Special:Contributions/It Is Me Here|<font color="#CC6600">c</font>]]</sup>''' 15:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see my mistake now. Thanks for the note, I'll keep that in mind. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==HornAfrik Media Inc==<br />
Hi Mark, Could you please undelete Ali-Ahmed.jpg now that [[HornAfrik Media Inc]] is out of the creation process! Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 18:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I've undeleted it. Not sure if it qualifies as fair use in that article or not though. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:03, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Thank you, the image ended up in the content fork on the Attacks on HornAfrik Media Inc. We appreciate all your assistance Mark! [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 19:55, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merge request==<br />
Mark, could you merge the histories of [[User:Crtew/Norberto_Miranda]] and [[User:Crtew/Norberto Miranda Madrid]] together into the [[User:Crtew/Norberto Miranda Madrid]] article so all the edits are together in one place for CC copyright. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 20:00, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, it's taken care of now, I think. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, Perfect! [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 20:14, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Loque2009 ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
Because I found out that Loque2009 was only using the account for spam / advertising purposes, please reblock this user indefinitely.<br />
Thanks!<br />
[[User:Thewikiguru1|Thewikiguru1]] ([[User talk:Thewikiguru1|talk]]) 21:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I might be willing to do that, but I think you should ask the blocking admin first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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OK, I have asked the blocking admin [[User:Edgar181|Edgar181]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|talk]]).<br />
[[User:Thewikiguru1|Thewikiguru1]] ([[User talk:Thewikiguru1|talk]]) 21:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I see you everywhere lately - blocking vandals, deleting spam, saving the weak! [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 22:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:18, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
==Sorry==<br />
oh I'm sorry, I understand what I did wrong now. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.128.219.189|65.128.219.189]] ([[User talk:65.128.219.189|talk]]) 00:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Ali Iman Sharmarke ==<br />
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Mark, Could you undelete the image HornAfrik.jpg for the article [[Ali Iman Sharmarke]] now that it is published. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 04:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, done. I think the FUR needs to be updated though. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:59, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Opinion ==<br />
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If you could, please check out these two users: Pinakulo and Fairyspit. I want someone else's opinion before I call [[wp:sockpuppetry|sock puppetry]] on them. Look at their contributions, based mainly on the edits of [[Benedict Cumberbatch]] or anyone affiliated with him like ex-girlfriends. They both seem very set on reverting any edit they don't agree with until it's border line an edit war. Please let me know what you think. Thank you! :) [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 12:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, they both seem to focus on Cumberbatch and have both edited [[Katia Elizarova]] a decent amount as well. That does seem suspicious. To file a successful case at [[WP:SPI]] though, you'd have to present diffs of very similar edits that they've made. Ideally something like, one accounts adds something to an article, someone removes it, then the other account re-adds it. If you can show that kind of thing on more than one article you're very likely to get a checkuser to examine their IPs. Basically just present enough evidence so it seems like more than just a coincidence that they have the same interests. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:06, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::I will, thank you! [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 21:16, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::If you'd like to comment on this, I opened up a discussion here [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fairyspit]]. If not, that's fine. Thanks for your help! [[User:Lady Lotus|Lady Lotus]] • [[User talk:Lady Lotus|talk]] 18:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Eat, Pray, Love ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I was the one who requested a protect for the Eat, Pray, Love page due to an edit war where edits selectively removes negative reviews from notable sources (Huffington Post and The New York Times). I had requested temporary full protect to encourage use of the talk page, but I was the only one you ended up blocking, and now the user who had removed the negative reviews disappeared from the talk page. It may be that the neutrality of a low-importance article is not significant, but if you think it's worthwhile perhaps you could look at the edits and talk page (there were previous complaints about neutrality due to the dearth of negative reviews). Regardless, I yield to your greater expertise and won't edit further. Thanks for all the work you seem to do on Wikipedia. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E|2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E]] ([[User talk:2003:55:4D0A:6896:B9FF:E13A:182A:748E|talk]]) 13:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, from the perspective of an edit looking at a content dispute, my goal is to stop the edit warring more than it is to make sure the "right" version of the page is in place. So, in this case, semi-protection stopped the edit warring, though maybe not on the "right" version. If I had full protected it, it would have definitely stuck on the "wrong" version for a while, since by default I protect the current version. If the editor in question doesn't want to discuss, you could ask on the talk page of a relevant Wikiproject (perhaps [[WP:WikiProject Books]]) for uninvolved users to comment or try opening an [[WP:RFC]] on the talk page of the article to get more input. Let me know if you have any more questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:36, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Rif Dimashq offensive (September–November 2013) ==<br />
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You can set the protection on this page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_Dimashq_offensive_%28September%E2%80%93November_2013%29 Rif Dimashq offensive (September–November 2013)][[User:Hanibal911|Hanibal911]] ([[User talk:Hanibal911|talk]]) 13:49, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a little bit less disruption at this point than I like to see before protecting, so I think I'll hold off for now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Geraldine Edwards hoax ==<br />
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Thanks for blocking [[Special:Contributions/146.244.11.175|146.244.11.175]] just now. The person represents a real BLP problem.<br />
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I have been working hard undoing the work of this person based in San Diego who in April–May 2011 started adding stuff about Geraldine Edwards to various articles. This person has created a couple of hoax references to help the hoax text resist deletion, which strategy has in fact worked pretty well until today. I was surprised to see that the San Diego person reacted so strongly today; I guess I thought the person had stopped caring about these articles a long time ago. I was wrong! <br />
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The hoax material usually gives Geraldine Edwards an important place as groupie or girlfriend in several musician biographies, a place at least the equal of [[Bebe Buell]] with regard to Buell or someone else being the inspiration for the groupies in the film ''Almost Famous''.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bebe_Buell&diff=427271037&oldid=421591398][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groupie&diff=427467343&oldid=427099477][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rick_Springfield&diff=427785131&oldid=427564082] This IP editor also smears the name of Mary Ambrose[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carl_Carlton_%28German_musician%29&diff=470120650&oldid=455072794] or pushes her down in importance[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honey_%28Robert_Palmer_album%29&diff=427280899&oldid=423256102]; Ambrose was Robert Palmer's longterm girlfriend at the time of his death and a co-composer on two of his songs. <br />
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Here are some fake references used by the IP:<br />
*{{cite news |first=Frank |last=Phelps |coauthors= |title=Dapper Rocker Robert Palmer dies |work=[[The Chicago Sun Times]] |page=27 |date=28 September 2003 |accessdate=2 May 2009|quote= |url= }}<br />
*{{cite news |first=Tracy |last=Marks |coauthors= |title=Former Employee and Lover of Robert Palmer Challenges his Will; Mary Ambrose says she is not a Heartless Goldigger |work=[[The Sun (United Kingdom)|The Sun]] |page=39 |date=29 October 2004 |accessdate=2 May 2009|quote= |url= }}<br />
*{{cite new| title=Eric Clapton Talks| author=Mark D'Ambrosio| newspaper=[[The Boston Beacon]]| date=June 20, 2006| url=http://articles.TheBostonBeacon.com/2006/June/20/local/me-clapton11/6}} [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Clapton&diff=428319709&oldid=428033853] ...Which was soon changed to the following...<br />
*{{cite new| title=Eric Clapton Talks| author=Mark D'Ambrosio| newspaper=[[The Boston Globe]]| date=June 20, 2006| url=http://articles.TheBostonGlobe.com/2006/June/20/local/me-clapton11/6}} [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Clapton&diff=next&oldid=428320058]<br />
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Since many people involved in this hoax are still alive, I wanted to let you know the extent of it, so that the BLP case is somewhat familiar if it arises in the future. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 22:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:For instance, when San Diego person gets home from work and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Palmer_%28singer%29&diff=prev&oldid=586867319 reduces Mary Ambrose] on the machine at home. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 00:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for the note, I'll look into it more later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:31, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, this is very strange. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for your various protections and blocks—what a relief! [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 04:11, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lam Duong ==<br />
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Could you undelete the image Lam_Duong.png now that [[Assassination of Vietnamese-American journalists in the United States]] has been created. Thank you, [[User:Crtew|Crtew]] ([[User talk:Crtew|talk]]) 22:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Are you sure that's the name? I don't see a file there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== CSD-F5 deletion of .pdf image ==<br />
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The deletion of [[:File:New_Jersey_Dry_Town_Listing.pdf]] was performed under [[WP:CSD#F5]], but as the uploaded item is a .pdf file from the State of New Jersey, and the file is linked directly by about 20 articles as a link rather than as an image. It would appear, as I read it, that the image did not meet the qualifications to delete the file under CSD F5. Any thoughts on restoring the file? [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 03:33, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I've temp undeleted it for now {{ping|DavidinNJ}} had marked it as non-free, perhaps he could comment. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Xmas in Advance ==<br />
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<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:green; background-color:white; font color:red; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">[[image:Christmas_tree_sxc_hu.jpg|70px|left]]<br />
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[[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) is wishing you a [[Mary Poppins|Merry]] [[Christmas]]! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> <br />
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Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{tls|Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.<br />
</div> [[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) 13:41, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the Christmas cheer! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== List of Harry Potter characters query ==<br />
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Please see [[Talk:List_of_Harry_Potter_characters#Students_in_Harry.27s_year]]. Thanks :)<br />
:I suggest you discuss the issue there and try to come to a consensus. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Teresa Cristina ==<br />
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Have you protected indefinitely by mistake? [[User:DrKiernan|DrKiernan]] ([[User talk:DrKiernan|talk]]) 18:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that was a mistake... I'm glad someone caught that! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:16, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Removed references by mistake on the Winter Solstice page===<br />
Hi I removed the references from :http://en.wikipedia.org/Winter_solstice<br />
by mistake. Can you please help? and bring them back? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.172.197.188|122.172.197.188]] ([[User talk:122.172.197.188|talk]]) 20:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Ok, I added them back. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:05, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandalism on [[Origami]] ==<br />
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The vandal on Origami is obviously back again, now as a registered autoconfirmed user, {{vandal|BurfyAdkins}}, to bypass the indefinite semi-protection. A user account that was created on 17 December, the day after [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A66.118.71.123 the block on the last IP he used] expired, made the needed number of more or less meaningless edits on other articles and then sat back, waiting to become autoconfirmed, before making [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=587003302&oldid=585699309 the exact same vandalism] on Origami as the various blocked IPs did (note the misspelling in BurfyAdkins' edit summary "Oragami", which duplicates the IP-vandal's spelling [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=585141036&oldid=585140796 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origami&diff=585140787&oldid=584066859 here]). And my gut feeling tells me not only that it is the same individual, but also that he has created several spare sleeper accounts... [[User:Thomas.W|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#164D0B">'''Thomas.W'''</font>]] [[User talk:Thomas.W|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#164D0B"><sup><small>'''talk to me'''</small></sup></font>]] 20:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, thanks for the note. I blocked Burfy indef for now. Amazing how persistent some of these guys are... If any more pop up I'll talk to a checkuser about a sleeper check. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Aww, you're going to delete my very straightforward comments? Pity. Oh, well. Yes, I do have sleeper accounts, but I haven't decided whether to use them yet, or to go in a different direction. You're correct that I'm persistent, though. Still, I'm willing to come out in the open and state my intentions. So you don't have to play guessing games. FYI, kind of a busy day for me, so I'm done for now. Just wanted to see how fast the response would be to Burfy. I'll be back, probably next week. Have a Merry Christmas! [[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.146|74.82.64.146]] ([[User talk:74.82.64.146|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 22:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:::{{ping|74.82.64.146}} Just a note that with comments like this, you will be blocked for block evasion and for vandalism, and your registered accounts will be indefinitely blocked. [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 00:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry for ignoring you Mr. IP. I'm willing to listen if you have something to tell me, but I can't guarantee much else. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Athens Metro Station Layouts, added by socks of blocked user [[user:Pumpie|Pumpie]] ==<br />
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Hi Mark, I looked through the page history of some of the [[Athens Metro]] stations. Apparently, blocked user [[User:Pumpie|Pumpie]] and their socks (now blocked) added station layouts to the Athens Metro, and you reverted some of their edits; thanks for that. However, many of the station layouts are still there, in a poorly coded condition, and I think that you have overlooked some of their edits. Should the layouts stay, should I replace them with new layouts that are in a better condition (see some of the Taipei Metro and NYC Subway station layouts for examples of station layouts that I can convert Pumpie's layouts to), or should they be deleted altogether? I know how to fix the station layouts and can do so easily. Let me know of your thoughts on this. Thanks, [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 21:11, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, it's up to you, but if you have the energy then I think replacing them with new layouts would be the best option. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Wow, that was a expeditious response. I'll start doing that ASAP. [[User:Epicgenius|Epicgenius]] ([[User talk:Epicgenius#top|talk]]) 21:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sounds good! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:22, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Carlos Beltrán]] ==<br />
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Now that this guy becomes part of [[New York Yankees]] officially, I guess that issues are resolved. Semi-protection is too much for now, so why not re-enabling PC1 and let IPs edit again trustfully? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 22:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I'm a bit hesitant to do so because of the libelous nature of some of the vandalism that he was getting earlier in the month. It's revision deleted now though, so I can't point it out. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 22:23, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: You mean before the December 7 incident? If so, I'll ask [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]. The unsourced edits after December 7 are NYY-related. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 23:50, 20 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::The libelous edits I deleted were on December 2, I think. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd guess it's probably safe, since most of it was related to the transaction that only became official yesterday. If vandalism continues, we can always re-protect it. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 00:32, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::: Under one condition, can you enable indefinite PC1? I'm sure that some IPs will do good. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 01:17, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== {{user|089baby}} ==<br />
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I'm writing here because of your involvement in the SPI into this user. The case has gotten somewhat ridiculous. He has used five new sockpuppets in the last six weeks or so, for a total of seventeen this year. It's clearly gotten to a point where blocking is a completely ineffective sanction. So was wondering if there is anything else that could be done to keep him off Wikipedia? In the SPI someone suggested blocking the underlying IP address. Is this possible, and would it stop him from creating new accounts? Thanks in advance for your help. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 02:43, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I blocked the most recent incarnation on the duck test. In some cases checkusers can issue a range block to the underlying IP range, but oftentimes, [[WP:RBI|revert, block, ignore]] is the best we can do. [[User:Mailer diablo]] was the last CU to look into it, so you might ask him if there's anything else that can be done. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:13, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for the suggestion. I've asked [[User:Mailer diablo]] about a range block and other possibilities. That being said, would it be inappropriate for me to report future sockpuppets directly to you instead of, or in addition to, an SPI, because I've got one for you, [[User:Holydog007]]. Part of the reason blocking has been so ineffective in the case that its usually taken about ten days to identify and block new sockpuppets. I'm now watching several key articles in this case. This is how, I managed to find the last two socks so quickly. I'm hoping that with quicker enforcement action he might just take his block seriously. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 05:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, I hope he's able to. Yes, feel free to report them on my talk page if you want. Technically it's good to have the full paper trail of a SPI filing, but the important thing is that they end up blocked. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 06:37, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request for Assistance ==<br />
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Would it be possible if I can get your assistance with dealing with an unruly ip? An ip, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.250.4.115] 98.250.4.115 is upset with the edits of one [[User:Op47|Op47]] over the splitting of [[Largest organisms]], and demonstrated its upset-ness by demanding that Op47 undo his edits or face banning for his "vandalisms." I removed the ip's threat here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOp47&diff=587047936&oldid=587047112] but it was then undone by [[User:Irishfrisian|Irishfrisian]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Op47&diff=next&oldid=587047936], and the ip then proceeded to accuse me of defending a vandal. Perhaps you would be better at persuading 98.250.4.115 to be more civil?--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 03:42, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I left him a message. We'll see how he responds. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 04:05, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you very much for your help.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 04:38, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Thankyou to both of you for your help. [[User:Op47|Op47]] ([[User talk:Op47|talk]]) 13:03, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request for Assistance: DELETION PAGE ==<br />
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You deleted David D.A. Doman page. I am requesting the page be reactivated. It was the lack of sources that had the page removed, and I would like to add more credibly sources. How do I go about requesting the page be put live again? Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ranu79|Ranu79]] ([[User talk:Ranu79|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ranu79|contribs]]) 17:02, 21 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It depends, do you have sources that indicate he meets [[WP:GNG|our general notability guideline]]? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:50, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Chamillionaire protection ==<br />
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Hi! I noticed you protected the page [[Chamillionaire]] with the summary "Persistent vandalism". I see no vandalism at all to the page in the last month, and very little in the last few months. —[[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Emufarmers|T]]/[[Special:contributions/Emufarmers|C]])</small></sup> 19:08, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, I didn't protect it, I placed it under pending changes which still allows IPs to edit. I count at least seven disruptive IP edits in the last fifty edits which I think is enough to justify PC, particularly for a BLP. {{unsigned|Mark Arsten}}<br />
::The last 50 edits span 4 months, which doesn't strike me as an overwhelming barrage. On the other hand, I tend to think we should have PC on all BLPs as a matter of principle, so I guess I shouldn't be complaining. :-)<br />
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::By the way, [http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1teba8/i_am_wizardman_a_wikipedia_administrator_former/ce72z5o] (if that's not what brought you to the article in the first place). —[[User:Emufarmers|Emufarmers]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Emufarmers|T]]/[[Special:contributions/Emufarmers|C]])</small></sup> 03:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No, not overwhelming, but enough that I think pending changes is acceptable. For overwhelming vandalism I use semi-protection, but for BLPs that consistently have vandalism issues at a lower frequency I tend to opt for pending changes. How much vandalism exactly merits pending vs semi vs none is certainly a grey area, but when dealing with BLPs I err on the side of caution. I tend to agree with you about how we'd handle all BLPs in a perfect world, looking at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&tagfilter=possible+libel+or+vandalism this list] each day is pretty sobering. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 06:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Topic Ban ==<br />
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Hi Mark, hope you have been well. Just wondering if you know much about topic bans for users and the process to possibly start a discussion about implementing one for a user? Thanks. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 20:40, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well I guess the usual way is to open an ani discussion to discuss their conduct and see if it is concerning to anyone else. If so, then open a subheading in the discussion to hold a !vote on topic banned. The key is to clearly spell out the disruption. Let me know if you have any more questions. {{unsigned|Mark Arsten}}<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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Please Office Protect my user page<br />
([[User:FMacks|FMacks]] ([[User talk:FMacks|talk]]) 01:58, 22 December 2013 (UTC))<br />
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== AfD on DOM? ==<br />
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As the AfD on [[:David Oscar Markus]] generated no interest, can we close the AfD and just go for a speedy? Thanks. – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 02:30, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Generally I don't do that. Sometimes leaving it open for a bit leads to a much more solid consensus, which is helpful to have if someone tries to get it undeleted. There was some Rfc about closing one-week-old Afds like we would PRODs, and I don't think there was consensus to do it that way. I can't find the Rfc now though, so I may be mistaken. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[:Roger#Radio phraseology|Roger]]. – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 06:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, sometimes it's best to PROD first and then go to Afd if it's contested. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:55, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Scott Leaton ==<br />
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Hi [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark]],<br />
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You deleted [[Scott Leaton]] after closing the AFD. Do you have any objections to userfication so that I can do some work on it? [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 06:11, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I think this is one of those rare situations where you can actually cut and paste it into a sandbox. Just note what you're doing in the edit summary. Then if it's moved back to mainspace I'll just history merge your sandbox and the article since there won't be any intervening edits. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:51, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::OK. I was also thinking of using the new [[WP:DRAFTS|draft space]] feature, unless I can find a lot of good stuff for him. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 23:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, that does make sense. I really haven't been following the draft space news though. I should get up to speed. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::It just started a few days ago, so no worries. :) I will start a user page draft, and then probably sometime later this week I will move to drafts if I can't build it up enough on my own. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 01:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sounds good to me. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:29, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Emmitt Smith]] ==<br />
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The PC protection will end for almost a week. I believe that extra protection time is needed; vandalism hasn't stopped yet. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 10:00, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, good catch. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 17:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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Hi Mark Arsten, user Vahram Mekhitaryan repeatedly added wrong, not related links in articles, and starting edit wars. Please take some action against it.--[[User:Δαβίδ|Δαβίδ]] ([[User talk:Δαβίδ|talk]]) 10:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:{{tps}} Provide diffs. [[User:Soham|Soham]] ([[User talk:Soham|talk]]) 10:17, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::That user repeatedly adding original research statement ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_Eternity_sign&diff=586500771&oldid=586488241]), which has been removed per discussion at talk page, but he readding it again. <br />
::Adding non related links ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=586501449&oldid=586490944], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=586762861&oldid=586682962], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_identity&diff=587209306&oldid=587116534]). Besides, reverting edits with uncertain/wrong explainations in edit summary.<br />
::He was previosly blocked 3 times for edit war in same article.--[[User:Δαβίδ|Δαβίδ]] ([[User talk:Δαβίδ|talk]]) 10:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Hmm, I think it might be best to take him to [[WP:ANI]] now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:23, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RFPP ==<br />
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Hi Mark Arsten, thanks for all the great work you've been doing at RFPP recently; I see your name appear in my watchlist there every day. :) Hope you've been having a pleasant holiday season, too! Best. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 18:49, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, it feels good to keep the backlogs at bay. Best holiday wishes to you too. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:55, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== More pages pending changes ==<br />
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Protection time of [[Vivek Oberoi]] is running out; there are still vandals out there. I'll mention more later. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 19:53, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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What about [[Bidisha]] and [[Friday the 13th (franchise)]]? --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 20:12, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I've extended Vivek, but I don't see much recent vandalism on the other two. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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What about [[Paoli Dam]] and [[Uri Sebag]]? [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 06:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Repeat IP vandal (under many different IP addresses) ==<br />
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Mark, yesterday I reported a persistent vandal on [[A Katy or a Gaga]] and other ''Glee'' articles who had finally strayed into 3RR territory, and the user, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.69.116.46 76.69.116.46], was blocked for 24 hours. Said user is back today under IP [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.91.131.143 174.91.131.143], making the same edits trying to add Care Bears directors and writers to this particular episode's info. (I've just now reverted the edits, but don't expect the reversion to hold unless action is taken.)<br />
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As noted, this has been happening since early November. (November 9: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.91.129.253 174.91.129.253]; November 15 and 18: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.95.201.175 174.95.201.175]; December 7: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.148.91.202 184.148.91.202]; December 21: 76.69.116.46; and now early on December 23 with 174.91.131.143). If there's anything you can do to slow this vandal down, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 03:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I protected for now. I'll look into it more tomorrow. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, Mark. Oddly, 174.91.131.143 made another problematic edit of [[Glee (season 5)]] this morning, but that edit was adjusted by IP 69.77.173.156 a couple of hours later. Both were Care Bears–related, so I have to assume they're both by the same editor. Might you be able to block both addresses? [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 14:26, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::Mark, I've just been reverted by that new IP, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.77.173.156 69.77.173.156], on [[Glee (season 5)]]. Unfortunately, I have three edits that could be called reversions already today (two from this vandal, and one from someone who broke the episode table), so I'm basically out of commission there; I'll have to leave this in your hands, Care Bear misinformation and all. Thanks for anything you can do. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 18:30, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, I think that's enough about Care Bears for now, I've blocked a couple IPs, let me know if more pop up doing the same thing. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Many thanks. I'll let you know if more IPs appear. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 19:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ==<br />
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[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) is wishing you a [[Mary Poppins|Merry]] [[Christmas]]! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> <br />
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:Thanks, Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Need Help ==<br />
This user: The Red Pen of Doom is reverting my edits unnecessarily and writing his own information using my identified sources.He being a wikipedia editor has the right to alter any wrong information but he is deleting the entire text added by me to the page [[Ajaz Khan]] and writing his own text on the page. When there was no content available on this page then this user didn't make any efforts in adding information in this article but when i added verifiable information then he deleted the entire content added by me and used my sources to add his new content. I request you to please look into this matter. If i did any mistake i will accept it with no argument.Thank you.--[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) 09:15, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, first things first, have you tried discussing the matter on the article's talk page (or the user's talk page)? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Ok.. I'll try to talk to him and sort it out through his talk page.Thanks.--[[User:Param Mudgal|Param Mudgal]] ([[User talk:Param Mudgal|talk]]) 09:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Styrofoam King ==<br />
Thank you for your action on this editor. I should point out though that this is the same user as [[Прискорбные]], who has previously been banned for sock puppetry having made numerous vandalism upon the [[Phil Collins]] page.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 19:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, let me know if you see him pop up again. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:43, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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the user was also previously vandalizing and blocked under the name [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_Somerville], so he's guaranteed to come back.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 20:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Collins&curid=153557&diff=587421444&oldid=587287976 this] (the text you dispute) is not truly [[WP:Vandalism]]; see how Wikipedia defines vandalism. From what I see, that text you removed is simply a summary of what is lower in the article (a very short summary of Collins being controversial, in addition to the note about his success) and is therefore [[WP:Lead]]-compliant. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 21:45, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], since it is a sock that is trying to push it, it most definitely is not compliant with policies and guidelines. [[User:Nymf|Nymf]] ([[User talk:Nymf|talk]]) 21:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes, anyone is free to revert edits that are made in evasion of a block. Whether a particular edit ''should'' be reverted is a judgment call--we don't have to revert a particular edit just because a banned user made it. Note that this is apparently [[User:The abominable Wiki troll]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Nymf, it still is not vandalism, and that is my point on this matter. It is WP:Lead-compliant, though is perhaps not needed...since the information immediately before that states that Collins has attracted significant criticism (and directs readers to the Criticism section). What is not compliant with Wikipedia on this matter is that it is a [[WP:Sockpuppet]] adding it. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:05, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], I'll agree to disagree on that. The user obviously does not like [[Phil Collins]] and is [[Wikipedia:VANDALISM#Gaming_the_system|gaming the system]] to get his opinion across. [[User:Nymf|Nymf]] ([[User talk:Nymf|talk]]) 22:17, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The difference is that I was/am solely focusing on the text (except for mentioning the editor in my second comment in this section and now); you were/are mostly focusing on the editor. The text is not vandalism, but, yes, we'll agree to disagree on this one. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:21, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]], thanks for your comment. I removed it because it was submitted by a troll who has taken on several user names and previously and repeatedly submitted into the lead that Collins was "The Antichrist" and "The most hated man in rock", which was judged by other users to be opinionated and inappropriate for the lead. While I consider criticism of Collins to be very significant, this guy has an agenda.[[User:Rodericksilly|Rodericksilly]] ([[User talk:Rodericksilly|talk]]) 22:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I understand. Your rationale on this matter makes good sense. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:28, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Good Tidings and all that ...==<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 21:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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You might want to take a look at IP 92.30.211.5 as well as that IP has made similar death threats and are probably the same person.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 23:32, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I can not prove anything ofcourse, but I would have looked once more at any connection between user TreasuryTag and the IPs. Why did this IP contact that user a (problem user) who has not been active since August. Just a suggestion to check that out.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 23:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Wow, there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I'll have to get up to speed on this. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No worries. But I am now confident that TreasuryTag has a connection to the IPs which is a clear violation of the guidelines concerninh him for the 41st time. Anyway, take a look. Merry Christmas.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 07:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey thanks, and what did he say? ==<br />
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Thanks for cleaning up the Young Turks stuff, and I assume he's made more threats at me. Curious what he said? [[User:Greg Salter|Greg Salter]] ([[User talk:Greg Salter|talk]]) 23:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Something about the transmission of HIV through incest. He was posting that on all the Young Turks articles for a while. Not sure what Cenak ever did to him, but, oh well. This reminds me, want me to semi-protect your userpage since he keeps comeing back? I should extend the offer to [[User:Jarkeld]] as well. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Aleah Chapin ==<br />
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Hi, not sure this is the place to reply to your email.<br />
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I am the sponsor of the commission you indicated you needed a source for. What further sourcing do you need, besides my saying I have paid for the commission?<br />
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:Well, do you have a link to a website or newspaper that confirms the information? Per our [[WP:V|verifiability policy]] we need to see evidence that confirms that facts. Unfortunately we can't just take your word for it. Sorry! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:52, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inland taipan ==<br />
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The problem, Mark, is that the IP user we are dealing with is not well versed about the subject he's editing. In my opinion, we are dealing with nothing more than a younger individual who has a fixed imaginary/fantasy vision of what the Inland taipan ''should'' be (sort of the way I used to think of tigers when I was a child), rather than focus on what it ''is'' by being unbiased and objective. His poor writing and his poor reading comprehension arose suspicion in me about plagiarism. This lead me to make use of duplicate detector and he is in violation of [[WP:CV]]. Numerous other Wikipedia policies and guidelines have been violated by this IP user over and over again. Warnings didn't stop him. When we try to edit to fix some of these problems he quickly reverts them. He is not willing to comply with anything nor is he willing to work with me (or the other editors who have seemingly given up) in improving the article. He is an obsessed fanatic. I and some of the other editors have degrees on the very subject matter - but he refuses to allow us to edit. In my opinion, he simply needs to be given an indefinite block. I believe it is necessary to save this article and to save a lot of editors from problems. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, ''mea culpa'' I've changed it from full protection to semi-protection and extended the duration. An indefinite block isn't really an option here. We try not to indefinitely block IPs, and in this case he seems to be jumping around from IP to IP, which would greatly hinder the effectiveness of any blocks. I think semi-protection is the best bet at this point for that reason. Thanks, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thank you. This is for the best. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 04:24, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Catherine Gross deletion ==<br />
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The documentation of what is essentially a secret society is difficult at best, but I am working on updating the page and references as much as possible. I direct you to the pages of Gloria Brame and Viola Johnson as well as the Kink Aware Professionals page where you will see her name. Links were also removed from SouthEast LeatherFest of which Ms. Gross is the Producer.<br />
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A comment was posted about the awards she received being "minor" but the person who commented says they do not know the origin of the awards. Awards Ms. Gross has received are nationally recognized awards in the leather community, and in no way are considered minor at all. If you look at the Leather Journal link, you will see Ms. Gross listed as an award recipient. This is a well respected publication both nationally and internationally in the leather community. Here is a link for your quick reference: http://www.theleatherjournal.com/pantheon/61-list-of-pantheon-of-leather-awards-all-time-recipients<br />
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You can see Ms. Gross listed on the Leather Archives & Museum site as a Board member http://www.leatherarchives.org/contact/contact.htm Additionally, a book edited by Peter Tupper to be published in 2015 discussing the "firsts" in the leather community specifically names Ms. Gross http://petertupper.com/2013/02/23/editing-the-history-of-consensual-master-slave-relationships/.<br />
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I would also like to refer you to the folllwing page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Southeast_Leatherfest_(2nd_nomination)where you will see comments pertaining to the difficulty in finding sources due to the privacy and secrecy of the community. While some aspects of the community are beginning to open, it is still a huge challenge to find the supporting documentation.<br />
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I do understand the need for proper citations as much as possible, and again, I'm working on that to the best of my ability. I appreciate your assistance in this matter. If it is not possible to restore the page, I respectfully request a copy of the page. Thank you.<br />
[[User:Mike Shore|Mike Shore]] ([[User talk:Mike Shore|talk]]) 02:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Well, really what we need to have an article on her is "significant coverage in reliable sources", see [[WP:GNG]]. The deletion of the article isn't meant as an insult to her or her accomplishments, but we have very particular rules about independent sourcing in biographies. Also, articles need to be written neutrally, we can't accept articles that seem like they're promoting an person, see [[WP:NPOV]]. If you'd like to have the article restored, the first step is to create a neutrally written, well sourced draft about her. See [[WP:DRAFT]] for details. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:02, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*Mark- thank you so much for your response. Is it possible for you to send me a copy of the page so that I might use that as a reference and work on getting it up to appropriate standards? My email is mikeshore212@yahoo.com Thank you. [[User:Mike Shore|Mike Shore]] ([[User talk:Mike Shore|talk]]) 20:18, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Sure, will do. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RfPP Tips ==<br />
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A few things to know. Cyberbot no longer follows redirects. Also placing {{tlx|rfpp|n}} sets a 24 hour timeout on the request. That means you don't need to slap another tag on there to have the bot archive it. Merry Christmas.—[[User:C678|<span style="color:green;font-family:Neuropol">cyber<span style="color:red">power]] <sub style="color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline</sub>[[User talk:C678|<sup style="margin-left:-6.6ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Merry Christmas]] 03:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, that's good to hear. For some reason a lot of redirects need protecting... sigh. Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 15:56, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== SafeMinds reinstatement ==<br />
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Where do things stand on SafeMinds as a Wiki page? As indicated, I am new to all of this and must admit, I am not Wiki savvy. So, there is a learning deficit here that must be acknowledged, thanks.<br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 05:56, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I replied below. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[WP:Edit warring]] going on at [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)]] ==<br />
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Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_for_page_protection#Wikipedia:Notability_.28people.29_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 this], I was just about to ask you if perhaps that page should be full-protected. Then I went to [[WP:Request for page protection]] and thought that perhaps it's already listed there. I have not had the Wikipedia:Notability (people) page on my [[WP:Watchlist]] for long (about a week now), and I might not have it on there for much longer. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 06:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I would have protected it a while ago, but since I close some Afds on the subject I was worried that it could create the perception of bias if I protect the "wrong version" of the notability guideline. It sure looks bad to have admins and other veteran contributors edit warring like that on an official guideline so I broke down and protected it. I guess I don't personally have an opinion on the disputed content to be honest, but I guess I'll just skip over the Afds that hinge on the disputed passage of the guideline in the future. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 07:22, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yep, I understood the rationale you gave at WP:Request for page protection, and thanks for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Notability_%28people%29&curid=286178&diff=587485601&oldid=587485567 going ahead and protecting that page.] As for the edit war that was going on there, you and [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Notability_%28people%29&curid=7318428&diff=587481645&oldid=587478083 summed it up well.] I wonder if BusterD watches your talk page and if my initial post here about this matter led him to comment there about it. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 07:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, I think it needs an uninvolved admin to step in and say "Consensus is X--discussion over". That whole talk page is a mess at this point. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 07:46, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::(edit conflict) I do watch Mark's talk page. I've been watching this situation with growing dismay for several days, and the discussion for much longer. I'll avoid taking a side, but the warring actions taken by some on both sides do not shower any in the discussion with glory. I was writing an RFC to appear under my comment. The issue needs a broader set of eyes. BTW, is there a WP:BURDEN related to policy and guideline changes? It seems to me that the party making the change needs defend the change, not those restoring the original guideline. Am I incorrect? [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 07:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::: Normally that would be the case, but in a case like here, where the alternative is not so much between two different proposed versions of a rule but basically just between the validity of a rule and its mere absence, the only logically tenable principle is the other way round: there has to be a demonstrable continuing consensus ''for'' a rule in order for it to be valid, so a demonstrable state of "no consensus" must lead to its removal rather than its preservation. This is simply because guidelines are meant to be descriptive, not prescriptive, and a valid guideline is, by definition, that which has consensus. Therefore, demonstrable lack of consensus in (including a persistent pattern of the rule being overridden in practice) logically entails that the guideline is invalid and has to be struck. There is also a practical reason for this: demanding active consensus for removal (rather than active consensus for its retention) would make it far too easy for small bands of determined filibusterers to keep a rule in place forever – which is precisely what has been happening here for years. That's the reason for the exasperation that has led to this recent bout of warring. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 08:32, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Thanks for the comment. I better understand your point now. I've been noticing the exasperation for quite some time. I've taken the liberty of creating a request for comment. Does anybody see something in my request or my comment afterwards which needs changing? [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 08:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::: Thanks. Maybe you could consider shortening the intro to the RfC a bit; right now it doesn't seem to make it quite clear what its intended scope is (as you are asking some more questions in the intro text than the one you put at the top). Please also note that several people have already been providing endorsement !votes to pretty much exactly the same question in the discussion above. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 09:04, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Ok, I think this will be a good way to solve the issue. Being able to point to the results of a formal Rfc closed in your favor always goes a long way to silence opposition. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:04, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection ==<br />
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Hello Sir I Request you to Please Semi-protect my user Page<br />
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== Need support and advice for BLP == <br />
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Hi Mark, I've been updating one of the pages you deleted recently (Sayo Kosugi) and need your help to make it right. PROD was based on unsourced BLP, so I added some relevant references in the article, which I thought solved the issue, but probably it wasn't enough to validate. Could you help me understand better not to make a same mistake and make it right? Thanks! Aki 05:47, 24 December 2013 (JST) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Makwn|Makwn]] ([[User talk:Makwn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Makwn|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:The issue was that we need independent sources that discuss the individual, see [[WP:IRS]] (think newspapers, books, magazines, etc.). If you can find such sources, you are free to recreate the article as long as you [[WP:Cite|cite them in the article]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:24, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Mark! I put 5 direct sources with citation discussing the article and put them in the reference list but was deleted and want to know the reasons. One was from the symphony orchestra, another was from Juilliard school but do you think those aren't independent enough to be cited? Thanks! Aki 10:50, 28 December 2013 (JST) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/204.57.75.30|204.57.75.30]] ([[User talk:204.57.75.30|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== SafeMinds reinstatement ==<br />
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I have looked back into the archives and found your response on Autism File as a reputable media outlet. Can you elaborate on what is needed to gain reinstatement if this is not acceptable and the mentions in mainstream media are unacceptable? <br />
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Here's some additional input:<br />
SafeMinds members have testified before Congress and Congress recognizes SafeMinds as a legitimate organization. Would that transcript <ref>http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Blaxill-Testimony-Bio-TnT.pdf</ref> suffice? <br />
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Our members continue to participate as representatives <ref>http://iacc.hhs.gov/about/member-bios.shtml#public-members</ref> of the affected families on government committees as a representative for SafeMinds. Is that acceptable? <br />
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I don't follow why this continues to fail to meet your thresholds of recognition as a legitimate organization... including the annual ongoing IRS 990 filings on income/expenditure and recognition by the IRS that we are a 501(c)(3) organization formed in the state of Illinois and the numerous links that come up when researching the organization through Wiki's own websearch tools. <br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 14:59, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Also, please elaborate on why Autism Files is not considered a reliable source? I don't see where this news outlet fails to meet wiki RS criteria.<br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 15:07, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't believe that Autism File is a reliable source, as it appears to promote [[WP:FRINGE]] content. The Daily Mail isn't a very good source, but my appraisal was based on [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1023351/The-great-autism-rip---How-huge-industry-feeds-parents-desperate-cure-children.html this article]. Unfortunately, testifying before Congress and participating as representatives does not necessarily demonstrate notability. It doesn't appear to me that there is enough coverage of your group to merit its own article, but if you disagree you are free to appeal the deletion at [[WP:DRV]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:28, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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The mention in a questionable outlet (your own words) from 2008 seems rather thin for justifying [[WP:FRINGE]] - if the passing mention of a questionable outlet placing advertising and receiving promotion from years past forever condemns a periodical to this status, then most all publications and organizations would be suspect... <br />
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As far as [[WP:DRV]], I find your responses to what has been provided for creating substantive evidence on SafeMinds existence as a credible organization as indicative of uncertainty on the deletion. Thanks for your indications on the means to move forward for reinstatement. <br />
[[User:Eric Uram|Eric Uram]] ([[User talk:Eric Uram|talk]]) 22:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Date vandal ==<br />
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Hi Mark, may I trouble you to take at IP editor [[Special:Contributions/68.0.216.233|68.0.216.233]]. If I report the user to AIV now, it'll just get ignored for insufficient warnings, but this IP is clearly on a date-faking campaign. In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Even_Stevens_Movie&diff=587527637&oldid=566119631 these 2 edits] the user introduces deliberate factual error at The Even Stevens Movie. The film was released on June 13, 2003, but the user changed that to June 11, 2004, and also massively changed other dates. User also vandalized dates [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seven_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587533437 here at Seven (film)] where they changed the release date from September 22, 1995 ([http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/seven/ source]) to June 7, 1996. Looking through some of their other edits, I noticed massive date changes [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Malcolm_in_the_Middle_episodes&diff=587532131&oldid=587000671 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Negotiator&diff=prev&oldid=587538128 here]. There is also a piece of subtle vandalism [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bridgette_Wilson&diff=prev&oldid=587164204 here] where the user moved Mortal Kombat down in the list and changed the release year from 1995 to 1996. Anyhow, the user is obviously here to vandalize. Thanks for your help, [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:27, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the detailed explanation, I think there's enough to justify a block if he keeps it up. He hasn't edited since your warning, so I'll hold off on blocking for now and check back later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Cool, thanks. As I revert I'm noticing a lot of 1995 dates being changed to 1996. Bot? [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:31, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Hmm, not sure, perhaps. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Maybe not. He misspelled October two different ways in one edit. What a hollow existence--finding new tedious ways to insert false information into Wikipedia articles? Geez. Here are the edits that I double-checked for accuracy at RottenTomatoes (some are dupes of above). [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Even_Stevens_Movie&diff=prev&oldid=587540309][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lara_Croft:_Tomb_Raider&diff=prev&oldid=587542727][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mortal_Kombat_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587542792][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_of_Time_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587542846][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=7_(disambiguation)&diff=prev&oldid=587542897][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seven_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=587543389][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bridgette_Wilson&diff=prev&oldid=587543777][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Klaus_Badelt&diff=prev&oldid=587543984] [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:45, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:12, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your alter ego ==<br />
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hafspajen&diff=587578447&oldid=587578411 Your alter ego] left a message on my talk page. I think somebody is trying to make fun of you. (Bad taste). [[User:Hafspajen|Hafspajen]] ([[User talk:Hafspajen|talk]]) 00:11, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sounds like someone had too much Eggnog! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes. {{smiley}} [[User:Hafspajen|Hafspajen]] ([[User talk:Hafspajen|talk]]) 16:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Happy Holidays to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Please Give Me Another Chance, Help me and Let me re.edit my page ==<br />
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Hello Mark Arsten, I am Mark Ludwig Labastida, I am a high school physics teacher at Tagum National Trade School for 2 years. Ever since I knew about wiki, I have been starting to depend on it, researching for almost every projects and assignment I had way back when I was a student.<br />
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Last December 23, 2013 I started to make/ write my first wiki page entitled The Big Five Pageants Ranks (I guess other wiki user/editor renamed it into The Five major beauty pageant) and it is a better name than mine indeed.<br />
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Just now I noticed that my page was temporarily protected, I have mixed emotions actually, I was a little sad because my page is subject for deletion. I am also very MUCH happy and shocked because I just can't believe that the admin: Mark Arsten was the one who keep my page protected.<br />
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Thank you for giving my page some time to be checked by you sir. If you could give me a chance to improve my article it would be my honor to do so. It would also be a great to receive some advice from you on how can I make my page more effective. :) I would love to be one of the wiki editors/user. To help the wiki community.<br />
:You'll be [[WP:AUTOCONFIRMED|autoconfirmed]] in a day or so, which will allow you to edit the page then. Please take care to abide by our policies on [[WP:COPYVIO|copyright violations]] though when you do. Let me know if you have any more questions. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== inre [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Truth About Lies (film)]] ==<br />
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The original version of the article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Truth_About_Lies_%28film%29&diff=587449996&oldid=431036856 from 2011] was based upon on old and inaccurate source. Further research shows the project began filming December 2013 and is now in post-production. I made corrections/expansions to the article to address the original author's errors and have added a different set of "''Find sources''" at the AFD. I think the now-better-sourced and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Truth_About_Lies_%28film%29&ent now slightly improved article]. What you think? '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>Michael Q.</small></sup>]]'' 02:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, I'll try to check it out later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas==<br />
Merry Christmas Mark, glad to see I'm not the only one crazy enough to be patrolling too early on Christmas Day! <font face="chiller"><font color="red"><b>[[User:Jimfbleak|Jimfbleak]] - </b></font></font><font face="arial"><font color="green">[[User talk:Jimfbleak| talk to me?]]</font></font> 06:58, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, Merry Christmas to you too! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:07, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Glee'' IP back, now messing with my user page ==<br />
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Mark, the IP that you blocked for vandalizing "[[A Katy or a Gaga]]" and [[Glee (season 5)]] is back as 173.206.72.5, and added this fake [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BlueMoonset&diff=prev&oldid=587694439 DYK credit] for "A Katy or a Gaga", including the usual Care Bears association, to my user page. Needless to say, I'm about to revert it. Blocking the new IP address would be welcome. Many thanks. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 03:47, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Huh, very odd. Well, I've blocked that IP, but something tells me we haven't seen the last of him... [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. Well, his favorite target pages are unavailable, so it's not hugely surprising that someone that persistent is finding other outlets. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 05:49, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: Hounding? HA! see [[WP:AGF]] ==<br />
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how dare u accuse me of having ANYTHANG to do with Ryulong?! Sir, my name is Ron I went to University of Miami and love anime shit. I dont want to talk to u anymore. Read the rules. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 20:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:[[WP:AGF]] is a great policy, but sometimes coincidences just become too much. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:20, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::just what r u trying to say? Spit it out Mary, I mean!, Mark... [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 20:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::What I mean is if you continue to create the appearance that you're here to bother Ryulong you'll be blocked. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:39, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Bangerter Machine Gun page Removal? ==<br />
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Can you please advise me of the information that brought you to the decision to remove the page regarding the Bangerter Machine Gun? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.37.107.41|68.37.107.41]] ([[User talk:68.37.107.41|talk]]) 20:53, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:You can see the reasons for the deletion here: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bangerter machine gun]]. Let me know if you have any questions, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 20:59, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Yes I just found that page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.37.107.41|68.37.107.41]] ([[User talk:68.37.107.41|talk]]) 21:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== [[User:Mwara thuku]] ==<br />
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He's back, making edits using [[User:66.37.51.4]] as well. What's problematic is that people are reverting his edits, and trying to leave him messages on his talk page, and he just keeps inserting this nonsense. Would you mind taking a look? --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 22:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Alright, I've blocked per [[WP:CIR]]. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 22:17, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:ErikHaugen]] ==<br />
Mark - I could use some help. This user has deleted an entire page I added by citing "unambiguous copyright violation"; when I requested proof he deleted the page. This is not the first of my recent edit this user is trolling and I am gravely displeased. Please take a look at my talk page for his comments. I sent him message and received no reply at the time of this writing. I would like the "Kahal Kadosh" page returned in entirety. Jaim Harlow [jimharlow99] 22:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:What is the exact title of the page you'd like me to look at? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::(Deletion log); 18:59 . . ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) deleted page [[Kahal Kadosh Beth Shalome]] (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement)<br />
:: I am requesting that it be restored. There was no copyright infringement - he made it up out of thin air and didn't possess the stones to exchange discussion. He fabricated "copyright infringement" claim where there was none. Here is my talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimharlow99 Jaim Harlow 02:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I've replied at [[User_talk:Jimharlow99]]. [[User:ErikHaugen|ErikHaugen]] <small>([[User talk:ErikHaugen|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/ErikHaugen|contribs]])</small> 06:04, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Ketchup ==<br />
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You have reverted a section about the HP works in Birmingham which seems to have been added quite inappropriately, possibly to disguise the insult to yourself which is buried within it. [[User:Chemical Engineer|Chemical Engineer]] ([[User talk:Chemical Engineer|talk]]) 22:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Ditto your reversion of removal of inappropriate material to [[Koala]] - you have inadvertently blocked the wrong user (who correctly removed the material), instead of the person who put it there (including more buried insults). Cheers, [[User:Bahudhara|Bahudhara]] ([[User talk:Bahudhara|talk]]) 23:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oops, my mistake - I've just looked into it a bit further - it now appears that both users are socks - "(the first sock) inserted false info and used a malicious sock to revert the addition, hoping someone would add it back. These new socks operate on the same MO" - and this is what happened in this case too. Cheers, [[User:Bahudhara|Bahudhara]] ([[User talk:Bahudhara|talk]]) 23:54, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, there are some very silly socks running around :) [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:57, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
*Thanks guys, I was actually tricked here. The user adding the vandalism as well as the user removing the vandalism were being controlled by the same banned user, who tries to trick people that way. So they're both (rightfully) blocked at this point and the text is gone from the article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 23:56, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Copyvios by Thundrplaya ==<br />
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I noticed that you blocked Thundrplaya this summer for copyright violations. Well, I found another one at [[Nebraska Cornhuskers men's basketball]]. Which likely means there may be more. I know this user hasn't edited since November, but it may be a good idea to check his edits for copyright problems. [[User:HangingCurve|HangingCurve]]<sup>[[User talk:HangingCurve|Swing for the fence]]</sup> 23:41, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, thanks for the note. I'll try to look into that later. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== AfD closure ==<br />
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Mark, would you mind taking a look at this AfD [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/On_Combat:_The_Psychology_and_Physiology_of_Deadly_Conflict_in_War_and_in_Peace]? It's been relisted twice, last time was 10 days ago. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 00:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, that's a complicated one. I've looked at it a few times, but it's a hard call to make since it's so close. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::*I know I'm biased because of my vote, but it looks like a no consensus to me. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 17:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A Simple Plan (film) ==<br />
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Thank you for protecting ''[[A Simple Plan (film)|A Simple Plan]]''. But, can you please revert the most recent addition of original research and analysis? Thanks! ---<font face="Georgia">'''[[User:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#009900">The Old Jacobite</span>]]'''</font><font face="Courier New"><sub>''[[User talk:TheOldJacobite|<span style="color:#006600">The '45</span>]]''</sub></font> 00:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I generally don't revert to a specific version after protecting a page. I suggest you make an edit request on the talk page and ask for a revert there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/The Party Posse Band/Archive]] ==<br />
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Mark, I'm confused by what happened here. I understand that of the three accounts, The Party Posse Band was the oldest and should be the master, as opposed to Be Sharps (band), but there are two problems with the way it's configured now. First, we've "lost" the third account, [[User:Posse band]]. Second, the tagging is wrong. The master is not tagged, but Be Sharps is tagged as the master (because I didn't know there was an earlier one). Is there a way to fix all this, or am I missing something? the tagging, of course, is easy to fix, but I'm going to wait until I hear back from you. Thanks.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sorry for the mixup. I've changed the tags on The Party Posse Band and the Be Sharps (band) and added Posse band to the SPI. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:39, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, is there a way to get back my comments? In other words, the archive should show two reports instead of only one. My comments were somewhat important because the users were not advertising real things but creating hoaxes. If it's too difficult, I'll live. :-) --[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:57, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, I see what the issue was, I forgot to merge one section. I've done so now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Perfect!--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | At Wikipedia we sometimes call our admins mop-wielders. You sir, are the most moppy of wielders or the most wieldy of moppers (your choice). Thank you for your dedication in cleaning up tasks that others don't make the time for. Your behind-the-scenes cleaning makes this encyclopedia run smoothy -- [[User:ТимофейЛееСуда|'''Тимофей''']][[User_talk:ТимофейЛееСуда|'''<font color="#00f00ff">ЛееСуда</font>''']]. 02:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the note, I really appreciate it. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Hi==<br />
Could you take a look at the edits of IP 24.209.194.7 he is adding information that is obviously not appreciated as his edits are often reverted but the user seems unwilling to change even after being told several times. Regards,--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 16:11, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I left another message for him, we'll see how he responds and then work from there. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 16:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Good.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 16:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry to bother you again, but there is a IP who has made a threat against another user and also is making unconstructive edits. IP 118.165.20.203 . Regards,--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 17:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I think I got him. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Hello Mark==<br />
Hello Mark. <br />
I updated my husbands information ( Peter Cartwright. Actor) you left me a message saying " You have removed it" <br />
I fail to understand why? I simply added that he had married and then passed away. Can you please explain why this is not acceptable ?<br />
You can contact me<br />
Regards<br />
Peggy Cartwright ( Peters Wife) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 17:47, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi, sorry for the misunderstanding. There were a couple problems with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Cartwright_(actor)&diff=prev&oldid=587828637 this edit]. When you add a claim to a Wikipedia article, you need to include a source with your edit that we can verify. This prevents pranksters from adding claims of death to articles about living people, something we've had many problems with in the past. Also, while I am very sorry for your loss, we don't use language like "is sadly missed" in article. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:09, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hello Mark. Thank you for your reply. What should I do now? Add the info again? Or will you add it?<br />
Peggy Cartwright <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 00:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:We can add the information back in, but we'd need to see an obituary or an article first. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 01:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Sandra Griffin Management Ltd<br />
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A selection of our clients current and recent engagements.<br />
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It is with regret that we announce, that PETER CARTWRIGHT passed away on Monday 21st November. Ever the gentleman, and ever the professional, he will be sadly missed. If you would like to call his Agent Sandra Griffin Management Ltd , Twickenham or look on her website you will see death of <br />
Peter .. Which she has made a mistake he past on the evening of Monday 18th November 2013 ..Peggy Cartwright <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Peggy cartwright|Peggy cartwright]] ([[User talk:Peggy cartwright|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Peggy cartwright|contribs]]) 13:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:That would probably work, just make sure you link to the official website when you add that to the article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks Mark==<br />
Mark I do appreciate your offer of contacting you re the article on Caledonia. I'm working on my PhD at the moment on Wyntoun's Chronicle and have four Masters Degrees. I was struck by the use of the phrase 'in what is now Scotland'. It is perfectly acceptable to use it. It is equally acceptable simply to refer to 'Scotland' as it is not necessary to correct every potential anachronism. Ionesco key factor in this is the question of consistency across articles and within them. So, Ireland which in this article and on others is not! until I altered it referred in terms like 'what is now Ireland'. Of course, like Scotland and England it was also during the 'Caledonian' period ruled by petty or sub kings and had not attained to political unity and was not then known as Ireland either linguistically or politically. That is why I have made this particular alteration. It is certainly not vandalism and is not incorrect. You will find few, very few countries to which Wikipedia editors are applying the same rules to as to references to Scotland... This is pretty obviously unacceptable. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.22.50.94|82.22.50.94]] ([[User talk:82.22.50.94|talk]]) 00:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but I saw you write [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caledonia&diff=prev&oldid=587997323 "Roman military incursions into central and northern Scotland,we're fleeting."] and assumed you were vandalizing. Feel free to continue to edit the page. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:59, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Candidate for deletion==<br />
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Hello Mark, the page I created is candidate for deletion. Last December 24, you had it protected. I did some revisions and edits on the page I also cited sources and links to make it more reliable and more informative. I hope you could check the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_major_beauty_pageants and you could give me some advice on how to make it better. The page will I think be deleted on December 31 if not properly edited. Please help. Thank you. [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 02:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:To have the article kept, you'll have to present major media outlets who use the term "Five major beauty pageants" and discuss the subject in detail. It might be a better idea though to edit related topics rather than just this one article. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 02:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Is it possible if I will edit also other pages by mentioning this page: [[Five major beauty pageants]] on theirs?[[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 03:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:That's ok, but ''only'' if you have a published reference that connects the other pages to that subject. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok I will. Thank you :)[[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 03:40, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Mark, I already edited these pages:<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_World<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_International<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Earth and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Supranational.<br />
Thank you Mark.. [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 04:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*I've removed the most recent edits to each of these pages, as they only attempted to confirm the unsupported and unsourced claim of '5 major pageants.' As I've suggested elsewhere, this appears to be part of a persistent attempt to promote a recently established contest by conferring it 'major' status on Wikipedia. It's something akin to spamming, is disruptive, and given the discussions at multiple pages and canvassing at numerous others, suggests a willful ignorance of guidelines. Thanks, [[User:JNW|JNW]] ([[User talk:JNW|talk]]) 08:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I understand if ever you will delete the page. I fully understand that we are just trying to keep the Wikipedia's reputation and its good standing in the web for online research. I still wish and hope that someday I can be part of your team. My apology for my desire (maybe undesirable) to keep the page. Thank you for the experience of editing I have learned a lot. Thank you also for the people/editors /contributors I came to talk with. It was really a great experience. Sir, if you have time please feel free to know me more. I am 27 years old physics high school teacher from Philippines. Here's my facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/Markimatics :) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 12:15, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Deleted image was removed from article by vandal ==<br />
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You recently deleted the image [[:File:Southern Methodist University Seal.gif|File:Southern Methodist University Seal.gif]] because it was an orphaned non-free file unused in an article for more than one week. I took a look at the article history for [[Southern Methodist University]], and the image was removed by a couple IP editors as part of a series of vandal edits that were only partially reverted. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southern_Methodist_University&diff=585236874&oldid=583116816 Here's the beginning and ending of those edits]. Can you restore the deleted image so it can be relinked to the article? Thanks. [[User:Mabeenot|–Mabeenot]] ([[User talk:Mabeenot|talk]]) 03:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, sorry for the mixup, it's been undeleted now. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:37, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Polimoda revision ==<br />
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Sir, someone manipulated the "polimoda" page and added "It is not listed by the Italian ministry of education, the Ministero dell'Istruzione, dell'Università e della Ricerca, among the institutions authorised to award degrees in music, dance and the arts.[4]" which is not true.<br />
Polimoda is accredited and recognised by the region of tuscany and the comune di firenze e prato.<br />
Please kindly make a research and make the page look appropriate for this famous prestigious fashion school.<br />
http://www.polimoda.com/en/about-us.html <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.46.156.76|41.46.156.76]] ([[User talk:41.46.156.76|talk]]) 05:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:You should bring this up on the articles talk page and try to start a discussion there. Let me know how it turns out, [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== What're ya tryin to do? ==<br />
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I remember u btw. That kid is not listening to reason, [[Talk:List of Dragon Ball characters#Manga spellings?!]] is about the recient changes to the page. U should be on my side, yet ur in favour of permablocking me?! Watever Im watching the threads. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I didn't say I'm in favor of blocking you, no. Nor do I have an opinion on the content dispute. You seem like you're looking for conflict though, which raises red flags coming from a new user. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::What?! All I EVER wanted was the best for wiki, and am met with constant opposition. Look, check the links and know that Im telling the truth. Xfansz or watever his or her name is lying about "Viz names" cause theyre REDIRECTS! Check it out dude. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Constantly being met with opposition may be a sign that you should change your approach, no? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 05:50, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Im afraid not. At least Huron is on my side. [[User:Dragonron|Dragonron]] ([[User talk:Dragonron|talk]]) 05:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Please Protect My Page ==<br />
HelloMark, I would like to ask your help to have this page be protected. I am planning to finish this page before the year ends. Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_Named_After_Jose_Rizal. Thank you so much :) [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]]) 06:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but we generally only protect pages if there are problems with vandalism, copyright violations, or other issues. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== editors ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
no doubt you will simply ignore this and then block my account, but can you please explain why you won't let blocked editors create a new account? If they continue to create trouble then yes fair enough you should block them, but it seems no one even bothers to find out why people do the things that they are doing, most of the time they do believe they are right even if they're not it might be a matter of opinion. Just ignoring it and telling them they are a vandal then blocking them without even listening to them is totally wrong. So I beg you, let me prove to you that a second chance is worth while just for a week then if you really feel it's not then block me and I promise I won't ever come back. But if you do, do that it will just show what sort of peeople are in charge of this site are really like. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Aaacafe|Aaacafe]] ([[User talk:Aaacafe|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aaacafe|contribs]]) 11:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Think of it this way: if someone is arrested for drunken driving and has his license suspended, if he responds by using a counterfeit license and continuing to drive during his suspension he'll get in more trouble if he's caught. Now, sockpuppetry is harmless compared to drunken driving and wiki-admins are not police, but I think the analogy basically works. If you go the duration of your block without evading it, you can be welcomed back as an editor in good standing when it ends or when you qualify for the [[WP:Standard offer|standard offer]]... that way you won't have to worry about getting more blocks from admins like me. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 18:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== More 089baby socks ==<br />
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Could you please block the newest sockpuppet: {{user|Overhadkick}}? There aren't many edits to go on, but three of them are essentially identical to one made by previous socks. Thanks in advance. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 16:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, obvious enough that I could just block him. I should protect some of those pages when I get a chance. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== No need to worry. ==<br />
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Hi, I recently reverted all the remaining edits by sockpuppets of Pumpie that were marked "current" to relive most of your workload. I was going to upload a brand new map of the Athens Metro (which has citations of course) but it's these users that delay genuine contributions like mine. Anyway, there are two remaining SPI cases for the said user. --'''[[User:Marianian|Marianian]]'''<sup>([[User_talk:Marianian|talk]])</sup> 18:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, I'll try to look into it later today. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 19:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Cheema ==<br />
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[[Cheema]] has been a problem since [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cheema&diff=585763151&oldid=585758141 this edit] on 12 December. Until then, it had been stable for a good while. I've raised the issue on the talk page on a couple of occasions but feel like I'm hitting my head against a brick wall. Some might call it a slow edit war but I'm in a good mood at the moment and would rather not put someone who is apparently new-ish at the mercy of [[WP:AN3]] where a block would seem the likely outcome. [[WP:3O]] is an option, I guess, but I wonder if you could take a quick look at it. No worries if you are not so inclined or do not have the time. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 22:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm, a trip to [[WP:AN3]] seems unavoidable at this point. Sorry that I can't come up with much more to say. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 00:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::OK. Thanks for taking a look at it. I'm getting fed up of having to make repeated visits to SPI, AN3 and RFPP and worry that I'm gaining a bad reputation for biting or cabal-like behaviour etc. But if needs must then the integrity of the project trumps all, I guess. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 01:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Major copyright violations made by IP user ([[Inland taipan]]) ==<br />
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* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fbillabongsanctuary.com.au%2Fnative-animals%2Freptiles%2Finland-taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Feprints.jcu.edu.au%2F11938%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20090613092123%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.qm.qld.gov.au%2Ffeatures%2Fsnakes%2Ftaipan%2Frediscovery.asp&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Faustralianmuseum.net.au%2FInland-Taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicator detector]<br />
* [http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInland_taipan&url2=http%3A%2F%2Faustralianmuseum.net.au%2FInland-Taipan%2F&minwords=2&minchars=13 Duplicate detector] <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DendroNaja|contribs]]) 03:22, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Ok, thanks for the note, if it's not too much trouble, could you point out which revision they were first added in and which revision they were removed in? I'll revdelete the intervening edits. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:It's going to be difficult, I mean that was just after a very brief search, god knows how many copyright violations there are. The article, from my point of view as someone specialized in the field, is in shambles and the user should not be allowed to edit it ever. --[[User:DendroNaja|DendroNaja]] ([[User talk:DendroNaja|talk]]) 03:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, agreed. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten#top|talk]]) 03:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Heads Up ==<br />
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May be a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kellogg_Company&diff=prev&oldid=588187306 sock] to add to a list?[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:02, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks and question==<br />
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== Thanks and questions ==<br />
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Dear Sir, <br />
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I am French student and I published the Wikipedia page of Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, peinter, and you accepted it in november, I thank you for that. <br />
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Moreover, I would like to know what means the designation "Orphan page" and if I can doing something to change this statute. I read the Wikipedia explanation but I don't understand what it means precisely. <br />
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To finish, I thank you very much for your open mindedness and your interest for culture. <br />
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Thanking for your availability, I address you my wishes.<br />
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--[[User:Drapé|Drapé]] ([[User talk:Drapé|talk]]) 14:48, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ritratto_di_Dama_-_Anna_Sforza.pdf ==<br />
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Who gave you the permission to delete this file? This file contains original art historical research of more than 3 years and adds value more than anything else on the page. There is no copyright issue as I have everything clarified with all the parties having an interest in it. So please undo your change or I do it. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RESA79|RESA79]] ([[User talk:RESA79|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RESA79|contribs]]) 14:04, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Flat_Out&diff=588215109User talk:Flat Out2013-12-29T14:39:59Z<p>Drapé: /* Question */ new section</p>
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== I have unreviewed a page you curated ==<br />
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Thanks for reviewing [[Mapping and Analyzing Data Matrices in Real Time]], Flat Out. <br />
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Unfortunately [[User:MrX|MrX]] has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:<br />
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<blockquote>I'm unreviewing this so a few more page patrollers can look at it. It may be a copyright violation.</blockquote><br />
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To reply, leave a comment on MrX's [[User talk:MrX|talk page]].<br />
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== I don't know if you celebrate Halloween but... Happy Halloween! ==<br />
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== Adaadat page deletion.. ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering what improvements I could make to stop the deletion of the Adaadat records page i just wrote? i'm new to wikipedia.. thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] to meet notability requirements, companies need to meet or exceed [[WP:CORP]]. Have a read and see if the company meets the guidelines. Cheers[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 15:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hi, I read the WP:CORP article, I'm pretty sure they meet the guidelines. I've added 3 more references and filled out the article a bit, what are you're thoughts, thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
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Please go ahead and delete this article for me because the title is supposed to be "Gerald Spangrude" not "Spangrude". This is not written about myself, but rather about my father. I have taken out the personal flavor. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]] ([[User talk:Spangrudec|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spangrudec|contribs]]) 01:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]], I have moved (re-titled) the article for you. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:03, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Content about Dr. Daisaku Ikeda ==<br />
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Hi! Thank you for sending me all the links. And thank you for WARNING me against removal of sections. But these sections have absolutely no proof of reference that such an incident with a priest of Nichiren Shoshu ever occurred. Dr. Ikeda has always been the compassionate person and followed true principles of Buddhism. Request you to check your sources and perhaps truly understand the person's mission of world peace. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]] ([[User talk:Ankitguptansk07|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ankitguptansk07|contribs]]) 02:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]], the sections you blanked did have references and you deleted them without explanation. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi man! Did you delete my page? But why? please explain why immediately after this message. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]] ([[User talk:Djobiguy46|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Djobiguy46|contribs]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]], what page are you referring to? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Raymond keene ==<br />
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Hi, I have just returned from London and volunteer at the World Memory Championships since 2001 which was founded by tony Buzan and raymond keene. Ray strongly objects to allegations of plagerism and was trying to correct the public record. What is the best way to do that?<br />
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Thanks Jennifer<br />
Gold Coast <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]] ([[User talk:Jennifer.goddard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jennifer.goddard|contribs]]) 02:38, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]], wikipedia articles are summaries of what is written about a subject by reliable sources. We do not censor here. If you believe the article is incorrect please raise your concerns at the article's talk page. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:15, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== plan b reference removed from adaadat page ==<br />
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thanks for helping with the article, hhowever i'm struggling see how the plan b reference could be considered unreliable. plan b magazine was a well known internationally distributed music magazine - http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/jun/04/plan-b-magazine-remembered the author frances morgan is a well known music journalist and publisher of the magazine - http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/frances-morgan/23/214/50 and finally the last third of the article features an interview with adaadat founder angus keith talking about the label.<br />
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thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 10:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] the reference http://www.adaadat.co.uk/romvelope/img/planb.gif can not be used to support a claim about reputation because it is self-published by adaadat. It isn't independent [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:10, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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hi, i think i understand now, i should have used Cite journal instead of Cite web in the reference. by "self-published" are you referring to the fact that the scan of the article is hosted on the adaadat website? obviously the original version was published in the magazine. <br />
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Thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 11:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I just redid the reference, i found an impartial third party source for the url and i changed the citation from web to journal. Is this ok now? thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 13:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gagut]] ==<br />
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Hi Flat Out - this is actually a bit of an odd case. A lot of that page is from a deleted page [[Gabriel Oyibo]], which has been re-created off-site [http://gagutofappit.org/gagunewiki.html here]. I think that most of the rest of it is from http://gagutofappit.org/ itself, rather than from the forum (which copied it from there). Gotta duck out now - cycle to the shops before the Cricket finishes - but I'll come back and have a look at it. Pete aka --[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Weird. I think the URL was triggering some spam filter or whacky website blacklist or something like that. Anyway, it's speedily deletable under any number of criteria.--[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 07:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks mate [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 08:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A brownie for you! ==<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]].. I started here in March but have just come back after taking a short break. Thanks for the chocolate! [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Go Indie TV ==<br />
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Dear Sir,<br />
In no way is my company using your site for promotional purposes. We are a solid established reputable company who believed that our company history and officers bios would be a nice addition to our coveted reputation in our field. As we are new to your site do accept our sincere apologies if you feel that Go Indie TV Broadcasting has violated or disrespected the by laws of Wikipedia. We are hopeful that we remain on Wikipedia and if there is anything that you need us to delete please do let us know.<br />
Best Regards<br />
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:Go Indie TV is a promotional username which is not allowed, and your user page is entirely promotional. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== hello Wikipedia: I need your help ==<br />
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Hello Dear,<br />
This is my first time join wikipedia. I need your help..<br />
I've got your Message already.. Thank you so much.. Nice to meet you.<br />
Well.. Anyway I need your help.. Please don't delete my article... And if you need me to update or change something about my Article..just tell me the wrong one.. And I will repair it for you...<br />
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Thank you<br />
Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie]] ([[User talk:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|contribs]]) 18:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:blocked for the third time it seems [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 01:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Good faith editing==<br />
For the record, I called myself "facetious", not you . . . and I have partially restored my edit to [[Allen Stanford]]. I would have appreciated a reply to my comment here rather a wholesale deletion. I appreciate your welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your BLP review. I am certain my edit satisfies its requirements. Thank you. &mdash; [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:If you expect a response from me here, then I suggest you alter your approach. As I commented on your talk page, WP:BLP applies to all mentioned living persons not just the subject of the article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I have replied on my own Talk page. [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biddenham dovecote ==<br />
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I wondered what the problem was with the above page? It is part of a series of new pages about Biddenham village pond, the Friends of the Pond and the dovecote that once stood by it. I'm new to Wikipedia so would be grateful for your advice as I would like to retain the page.<br />
And haven't used the Talk facility before so I hope this gets to you. Thank you. [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] and welcome to Wikipedia. The article needs to be supported by [[wp:rs|reliable sources]] that support the subject's notability. Nevermind about retaining the article as my nomination was not upheld. I will do my best to help you improve the article and feel free to ask me for help anytime. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can add some book references that have been written about the village to support the information. I have I suppose been building up the new pages bit by bit, learning as I go along! So will look at refining them. I still have to fathom out how to add photos that fit and don't swamp a page! Best wishes [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:34, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes if you can support each statement with a reference it will help the article survive a future nomination for deletion. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Speedy deletion declined: [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]] ==<br />
Hello Flat Out. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]], a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Software is not eligible for A7.''' Thank you. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the heads up [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]].. a bit rusty after a break :) Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:28, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No problem. I also forgot to deshoutify the template above - I still have making a better template on my todo-list. Sorry about that! [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::It's OK i'm old and deaf :P [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inappropriate deletion ==<br />
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How did you delete the links provided in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohan_Rakesh page? Did you check the Talk section? After a 3rd opinion from an independent reviewer the links were kept. why did you delete it? Did you discuss with the person who provided his opinion as the 3rd Opinion? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE]] ([[User talk:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|contribs]]) 15:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It is a spam link and has since been removed by three other editors. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Asked Permission ==<br />
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Mark Arsten gave me permission to edit the five beauty pageant. Please see his talk page and check our conversation. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]], I read it, the problem is you have no reliable sources to support your edits. Wikipedia can never be used as as a reference. See [[WP:RS]] [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thank you, I'll find reliable sources. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Melbourne ==<br />
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My edits remove the so-called optional /r/, because it is not identified as optional in any way. I suggest that /(r)/ would better flag its optional status, if it truly must be included. <br />
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Some may think it acceptable with common nouns to require the reader to understand that arhotic dialects are likely to omit the /r/ in such a location, but the same cannot be relied upon with proper nouns. Hence, if no variant is to be shown, omission of the /r/ is preferable (especially as the native pronunciation lacks the /r/). Ideally, the two variants should be shown - or a device (such as /(r)/, as above) be employed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.57.23.132|122.57.23.132]] ([[User talk:122.57.23.132|talk]]) 09:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi ([[User:122.57.23.132|there]], editing at wikipedia must be achieved by [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]]. You can't force your view on other editors by simply reinserting the change that has been rejected, you need to make your case at the article's talk page. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Size_14_-_Appetite_For_Self_Destruction ==<br />
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Its a digital only release for FANS. How can I expect to get sourced articles? As there has been no "Official release" via digital distribution channels yet... Is a mention in the [[Size 14]] Amazon Bio ok?<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hellotheragain1979|Hellotheragain1979]] ([[User talk:Hellotheragain1979|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hellotheragain1979|contribs]]) 10:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:If it hasn't been released then it isn't notable enough for an article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your response about M.A.D Playhouse Article ==<br />
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Hi There, As per the policy those are reliable Third-Party reports and can be considered as reliable resources. Please let me know as per the policy which part is not reliable and I will need your complete details so that the respective companies can contact you directly.--[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC): Also how do you ask someone like "do not reinstate"? where you failed to answer any of my questions on the article talk page earlier. Please try to keep calm and respond with facts. --[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Here's a fact for you, facebook and youtube are not reliable sources. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Again. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No worries mate, see you next time.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Hey [[User:Dwpaul|Dwpaul]] that message on OrangeMike's page was to ensure that account was added to sockpuppet list, why do you rv? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I only rv'd my panicking message to OM and the miscreant's modifications of it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOrangemike&diff=588188586&oldid=588184265]. Figured there wasn't any need any more to trouble OM with it, since the user is now blocked. I didn't specifically mention SPI in the post I reverted on OM's page (only in the content of the circumstances that led to the war). Didn't revert any edit of yours, did I? <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::My apology, my post isn't there at all. I mustn't have saved it properly.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::NP, feel free to rv my rv if you want to expand on my comments and make sure OM is aware of this SP. I just figured since he's apparently offline at present it wasn't his problem. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Flat Out,<br />
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Sorry for the disturbance, but I would like to know how write to Mark Arsten. I didn't find the mean to do it...<br />
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Thank you very much !<br />
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Drapé<br />
:Hi [[User:Drapé|Drapé]] you can leave a message for Mark Asten [[User talk:Mark Arsten|here]].[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 14:35, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thank you Flat Out but I didn't find the place where writting, '''precisly''', on the page...</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Flat_Out&diff=588214395User talk:Flat Out2013-12-29T14:32:06Z<p>Drapé: /* Questions */</p>
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== I have unreviewed a page you curated ==<br />
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Thanks for reviewing [[Mapping and Analyzing Data Matrices in Real Time]], Flat Out. <br />
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Unfortunately [[User:MrX|MrX]] has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:<br />
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<blockquote>I'm unreviewing this so a few more page patrollers can look at it. It may be a copyright violation.</blockquote><br />
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To reply, leave a comment on MrX's [[User talk:MrX|talk page]].<br />
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== I don't know if you celebrate Halloween but... Happy Halloween! ==<br />
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== Adaadat page deletion.. ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering what improvements I could make to stop the deletion of the Adaadat records page i just wrote? i'm new to wikipedia.. thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] to meet notability requirements, companies need to meet or exceed [[WP:CORP]]. Have a read and see if the company meets the guidelines. Cheers[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 15:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hi, I read the WP:CORP article, I'm pretty sure they meet the guidelines. I've added 3 more references and filled out the article a bit, what are you're thoughts, thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
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Please go ahead and delete this article for me because the title is supposed to be "Gerald Spangrude" not "Spangrude". This is not written about myself, but rather about my father. I have taken out the personal flavor. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]] ([[User talk:Spangrudec|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spangrudec|contribs]]) 01:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]], I have moved (re-titled) the article for you. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:03, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Content about Dr. Daisaku Ikeda ==<br />
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Hi! Thank you for sending me all the links. And thank you for WARNING me against removal of sections. But these sections have absolutely no proof of reference that such an incident with a priest of Nichiren Shoshu ever occurred. Dr. Ikeda has always been the compassionate person and followed true principles of Buddhism. Request you to check your sources and perhaps truly understand the person's mission of world peace. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]] ([[User talk:Ankitguptansk07|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ankitguptansk07|contribs]]) 02:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]], the sections you blanked did have references and you deleted them without explanation. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi man! Did you delete my page? But why? please explain why immediately after this message. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]] ([[User talk:Djobiguy46|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Djobiguy46|contribs]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]], what page are you referring to? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Raymond keene ==<br />
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Hi, I have just returned from London and volunteer at the World Memory Championships since 2001 which was founded by tony Buzan and raymond keene. Ray strongly objects to allegations of plagerism and was trying to correct the public record. What is the best way to do that?<br />
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Thanks Jennifer<br />
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:Hi [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]], wikipedia articles are summaries of what is written about a subject by reliable sources. We do not censor here. If you believe the article is incorrect please raise your concerns at the article's talk page. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:15, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== plan b reference removed from adaadat page ==<br />
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thanks for helping with the article, hhowever i'm struggling see how the plan b reference could be considered unreliable. plan b magazine was a well known internationally distributed music magazine - http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/jun/04/plan-b-magazine-remembered the author frances morgan is a well known music journalist and publisher of the magazine - http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/frances-morgan/23/214/50 and finally the last third of the article features an interview with adaadat founder angus keith talking about the label.<br />
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thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 10:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] the reference http://www.adaadat.co.uk/romvelope/img/planb.gif can not be used to support a claim about reputation because it is self-published by adaadat. It isn't independent [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:10, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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hi, i think i understand now, i should have used Cite journal instead of Cite web in the reference. by "self-published" are you referring to the fact that the scan of the article is hosted on the adaadat website? obviously the original version was published in the magazine. <br />
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Thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 11:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I just redid the reference, i found an impartial third party source for the url and i changed the citation from web to journal. Is this ok now? thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 13:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gagut]] ==<br />
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Hi Flat Out - this is actually a bit of an odd case. A lot of that page is from a deleted page [[Gabriel Oyibo]], which has been re-created off-site [http://gagutofappit.org/gagunewiki.html here]. I think that most of the rest of it is from http://gagutofappit.org/ itself, rather than from the forum (which copied it from there). Gotta duck out now - cycle to the shops before the Cricket finishes - but I'll come back and have a look at it. Pete aka --[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Weird. I think the URL was triggering some spam filter or whacky website blacklist or something like that. Anyway, it's speedily deletable under any number of criteria.--[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 07:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks mate [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 08:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A brownie for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Since we don't have a WikiLove Aussie food I thought I might go with something safe and chocolate.<p>It's always good to have other Australians working on Wikipedia, and I've seen your username around the place recently working well. <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 10:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]].. I started here in March but have just come back after taking a short break. Thanks for the chocolate! [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Go Indie TV ==<br />
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Dear Sir,<br />
In no way is my company using your site for promotional purposes. We are a solid established reputable company who believed that our company history and officers bios would be a nice addition to our coveted reputation in our field. As we are new to your site do accept our sincere apologies if you feel that Go Indie TV Broadcasting has violated or disrespected the by laws of Wikipedia. We are hopeful that we remain on Wikipedia and if there is anything that you need us to delete please do let us know.<br />
Best Regards<br />
Gregg Cannizzaro<br />
CEO<br />
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:Go Indie TV is a promotional username which is not allowed, and your user page is entirely promotional. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== hello Wikipedia: I need your help ==<br />
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Hello Dear,<br />
This is my first time join wikipedia. I need your help..<br />
I've got your Message already.. Thank you so much.. Nice to meet you.<br />
Well.. Anyway I need your help.. Please don't delete my article... And if you need me to update or change something about my Article..just tell me the wrong one.. And I will repair it for you...<br />
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Thank you<br />
Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie]] ([[User talk:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|contribs]]) 18:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:blocked for the third time it seems [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 01:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Good faith editing==<br />
For the record, I called myself "facetious", not you . . . and I have partially restored my edit to [[Allen Stanford]]. I would have appreciated a reply to my comment here rather a wholesale deletion. I appreciate your welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your BLP review. I am certain my edit satisfies its requirements. Thank you. &mdash; [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:If you expect a response from me here, then I suggest you alter your approach. As I commented on your talk page, WP:BLP applies to all mentioned living persons not just the subject of the article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I have replied on my own Talk page. [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biddenham dovecote ==<br />
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I wondered what the problem was with the above page? It is part of a series of new pages about Biddenham village pond, the Friends of the Pond and the dovecote that once stood by it. I'm new to Wikipedia so would be grateful for your advice as I would like to retain the page.<br />
And haven't used the Talk facility before so I hope this gets to you. Thank you. [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] and welcome to Wikipedia. The article needs to be supported by [[wp:rs|reliable sources]] that support the subject's notability. Nevermind about retaining the article as my nomination was not upheld. I will do my best to help you improve the article and feel free to ask me for help anytime. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can add some book references that have been written about the village to support the information. I have I suppose been building up the new pages bit by bit, learning as I go along! So will look at refining them. I still have to fathom out how to add photos that fit and don't swamp a page! Best wishes [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:34, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes if you can support each statement with a reference it will help the article survive a future nomination for deletion. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Speedy deletion declined: [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]] ==<br />
Hello Flat Out. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]], a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Software is not eligible for A7.''' Thank you. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the heads up [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]].. a bit rusty after a break :) Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:28, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No problem. I also forgot to deshoutify the template above - I still have making a better template on my todo-list. Sorry about that! [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::It's OK i'm old and deaf :P [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inappropriate deletion ==<br />
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How did you delete the links provided in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohan_Rakesh page? Did you check the Talk section? After a 3rd opinion from an independent reviewer the links were kept. why did you delete it? Did you discuss with the person who provided his opinion as the 3rd Opinion? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE]] ([[User talk:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|contribs]]) 15:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It is a spam link and has since been removed by three other editors. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Asked Permission ==<br />
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Mark Arsten gave me permission to edit the five beauty pageant. Please see his talk page and check our conversation. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]], I read it, the problem is you have no reliable sources to support your edits. Wikipedia can never be used as as a reference. See [[WP:RS]] [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thank you, I'll find reliable sources. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Melbourne ==<br />
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My edits remove the so-called optional /r/, because it is not identified as optional in any way. I suggest that /(r)/ would better flag its optional status, if it truly must be included. <br />
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Some may think it acceptable with common nouns to require the reader to understand that arhotic dialects are likely to omit the /r/ in such a location, but the same cannot be relied upon with proper nouns. Hence, if no variant is to be shown, omission of the /r/ is preferable (especially as the native pronunciation lacks the /r/). Ideally, the two variants should be shown - or a device (such as /(r)/, as above) be employed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.57.23.132|122.57.23.132]] ([[User talk:122.57.23.132|talk]]) 09:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi ([[User:122.57.23.132|there]], editing at wikipedia must be achieved by [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]]. You can't force your view on other editors by simply reinserting the change that has been rejected, you need to make your case at the article's talk page. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Size_14_-_Appetite_For_Self_Destruction ==<br />
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Its a digital only release for FANS. How can I expect to get sourced articles? As there has been no "Official release" via digital distribution channels yet... Is a mention in the [[Size 14]] Amazon Bio ok?<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hellotheragain1979|Hellotheragain1979]] ([[User talk:Hellotheragain1979|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hellotheragain1979|contribs]]) 10:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:If it hasn't been released then it isn't notable enough for an article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your response about M.A.D Playhouse Article ==<br />
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Hi There, As per the policy those are reliable Third-Party reports and can be considered as reliable resources. Please let me know as per the policy which part is not reliable and I will need your complete details so that the respective companies can contact you directly.--[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC): Also how do you ask someone like "do not reinstate"? where you failed to answer any of my questions on the article talk page earlier. Please try to keep calm and respond with facts. --[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Here's a fact for you, facebook and youtube are not reliable sources. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Again. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No worries mate, see you next time.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Hey [[User:Dwpaul|Dwpaul]] that message on OrangeMike's page was to ensure that account was added to sockpuppet list, why do you rv? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I only rv'd my panicking message to OM and the miscreant's modifications of it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOrangemike&diff=588188586&oldid=588184265]. Figured there wasn't any need any more to trouble OM with it, since the user is now blocked. I didn't specifically mention SPI in the post I reverted on OM's page (only in the content of the circumstances that led to the war). Didn't revert any edit of yours, did I? <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::My apology, my post isn't there at all. I mustn't have saved it properly.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::NP, feel free to rv my rv if you want to expand on my comments and make sure OM is aware of this SP. I just figured since he's apparently offline at present it wasn't his problem. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Question==<br />
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Flat Out,<br />
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Sorry for the disturbance, but I would like to know how write to Mark Arsten. I didn't find the mean to do it...<br />
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Thank you very much !<br />
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== I have unreviewed a page you curated ==<br />
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Thanks for reviewing [[Mapping and Analyzing Data Matrices in Real Time]], Flat Out. <br />
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Unfortunately [[User:MrX|MrX]] has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:<br />
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<blockquote>I'm unreviewing this so a few more page patrollers can look at it. It may be a copyright violation.</blockquote><br />
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To reply, leave a comment on MrX's [[User talk:MrX|talk page]].<br />
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== I don't know if you celebrate Halloween but... Happy Halloween! ==<br />
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== Adaadat page deletion.. ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering what improvements I could make to stop the deletion of the Adaadat records page i just wrote? i'm new to wikipedia.. thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] to meet notability requirements, companies need to meet or exceed [[WP:CORP]]. Have a read and see if the company meets the guidelines. Cheers[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 15:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hi, I read the WP:CORP article, I'm pretty sure they meet the guidelines. I've added 3 more references and filled out the article a bit, what are you're thoughts, thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
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Please go ahead and delete this article for me because the title is supposed to be "Gerald Spangrude" not "Spangrude". This is not written about myself, but rather about my father. I have taken out the personal flavor. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]] ([[User talk:Spangrudec|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spangrudec|contribs]]) 01:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]], I have moved (re-titled) the article for you. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:03, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Content about Dr. Daisaku Ikeda ==<br />
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Hi! Thank you for sending me all the links. And thank you for WARNING me against removal of sections. But these sections have absolutely no proof of reference that such an incident with a priest of Nichiren Shoshu ever occurred. Dr. Ikeda has always been the compassionate person and followed true principles of Buddhism. Request you to check your sources and perhaps truly understand the person's mission of world peace. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]] ([[User talk:Ankitguptansk07|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ankitguptansk07|contribs]]) 02:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]], the sections you blanked did have references and you deleted them without explanation. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi man! Did you delete my page? But why? please explain why immediately after this message. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]] ([[User talk:Djobiguy46|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Djobiguy46|contribs]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]], what page are you referring to? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Raymond keene ==<br />
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Hi, I have just returned from London and volunteer at the World Memory Championships since 2001 which was founded by tony Buzan and raymond keene. Ray strongly objects to allegations of plagerism and was trying to correct the public record. What is the best way to do that?<br />
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Thanks Jennifer<br />
Gold Coast <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]] ([[User talk:Jennifer.goddard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jennifer.goddard|contribs]]) 02:38, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]], wikipedia articles are summaries of what is written about a subject by reliable sources. We do not censor here. If you believe the article is incorrect please raise your concerns at the article's talk page. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:15, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== plan b reference removed from adaadat page ==<br />
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thanks for helping with the article, hhowever i'm struggling see how the plan b reference could be considered unreliable. plan b magazine was a well known internationally distributed music magazine - http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/jun/04/plan-b-magazine-remembered the author frances morgan is a well known music journalist and publisher of the magazine - http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/frances-morgan/23/214/50 and finally the last third of the article features an interview with adaadat founder angus keith talking about the label.<br />
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thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 10:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] the reference http://www.adaadat.co.uk/romvelope/img/planb.gif can not be used to support a claim about reputation because it is self-published by adaadat. It isn't independent [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:10, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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hi, i think i understand now, i should have used Cite journal instead of Cite web in the reference. by "self-published" are you referring to the fact that the scan of the article is hosted on the adaadat website? obviously the original version was published in the magazine. <br />
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Thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 11:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I just redid the reference, i found an impartial third party source for the url and i changed the citation from web to journal. Is this ok now? thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 13:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gagut]] ==<br />
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Hi Flat Out - this is actually a bit of an odd case. A lot of that page is from a deleted page [[Gabriel Oyibo]], which has been re-created off-site [http://gagutofappit.org/gagunewiki.html here]. I think that most of the rest of it is from http://gagutofappit.org/ itself, rather than from the forum (which copied it from there). Gotta duck out now - cycle to the shops before the Cricket finishes - but I'll come back and have a look at it. Pete aka --[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Weird. I think the URL was triggering some spam filter or whacky website blacklist or something like that. Anyway, it's speedily deletable under any number of criteria.--[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 07:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks mate [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 08:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A brownie for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Since we don't have a WikiLove Aussie food I thought I might go with something safe and chocolate.<p>It's always good to have other Australians working on Wikipedia, and I've seen your username around the place recently working well. <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 10:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]].. I started here in March but have just come back after taking a short break. Thanks for the chocolate! [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Go Indie TV ==<br />
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Dear Sir,<br />
In no way is my company using your site for promotional purposes. We are a solid established reputable company who believed that our company history and officers bios would be a nice addition to our coveted reputation in our field. As we are new to your site do accept our sincere apologies if you feel that Go Indie TV Broadcasting has violated or disrespected the by laws of Wikipedia. We are hopeful that we remain on Wikipedia and if there is anything that you need us to delete please do let us know.<br />
Best Regards<br />
Gregg Cannizzaro<br />
CEO<br />
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:Go Indie TV is a promotional username which is not allowed, and your user page is entirely promotional. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== hello Wikipedia: I need your help ==<br />
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Hello Dear,<br />
This is my first time join wikipedia. I need your help..<br />
I've got your Message already.. Thank you so much.. Nice to meet you.<br />
Well.. Anyway I need your help.. Please don't delete my article... And if you need me to update or change something about my Article..just tell me the wrong one.. And I will repair it for you...<br />
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Thank you<br />
Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie]] ([[User talk:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|contribs]]) 18:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:blocked for the third time it seems [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 01:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Good faith editing==<br />
For the record, I called myself "facetious", not you . . . and I have partially restored my edit to [[Allen Stanford]]. I would have appreciated a reply to my comment here rather a wholesale deletion. I appreciate your welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your BLP review. I am certain my edit satisfies its requirements. Thank you. &mdash; [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:If you expect a response from me here, then I suggest you alter your approach. As I commented on your talk page, WP:BLP applies to all mentioned living persons not just the subject of the article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I have replied on my own Talk page. [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biddenham dovecote ==<br />
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I wondered what the problem was with the above page? It is part of a series of new pages about Biddenham village pond, the Friends of the Pond and the dovecote that once stood by it. I'm new to Wikipedia so would be grateful for your advice as I would like to retain the page.<br />
And haven't used the Talk facility before so I hope this gets to you. Thank you. [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] and welcome to Wikipedia. The article needs to be supported by [[wp:rs|reliable sources]] that support the subject's notability. Nevermind about retaining the article as my nomination was not upheld. I will do my best to help you improve the article and feel free to ask me for help anytime. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can add some book references that have been written about the village to support the information. I have I suppose been building up the new pages bit by bit, learning as I go along! So will look at refining them. I still have to fathom out how to add photos that fit and don't swamp a page! Best wishes [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:34, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes if you can support each statement with a reference it will help the article survive a future nomination for deletion. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Speedy deletion declined: [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]] ==<br />
Hello Flat Out. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]], a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Software is not eligible for A7.''' Thank you. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the heads up [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]].. a bit rusty after a break :) Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:28, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No problem. I also forgot to deshoutify the template above - I still have making a better template on my todo-list. Sorry about that! [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::It's OK i'm old and deaf :P [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inappropriate deletion ==<br />
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How did you delete the links provided in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohan_Rakesh page? Did you check the Talk section? After a 3rd opinion from an independent reviewer the links were kept. why did you delete it? Did you discuss with the person who provided his opinion as the 3rd Opinion? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE]] ([[User talk:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|contribs]]) 15:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It is a spam link and has since been removed by three other editors. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Signpost'': 25 December 2013 ==<br />
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== Asked Permission ==<br />
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Mark Arsten gave me permission to edit the five beauty pageant. Please see his talk page and check our conversation. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]], I read it, the problem is you have no reliable sources to support your edits. Wikipedia can never be used as as a reference. See [[WP:RS]] [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thank you, I'll find reliable sources. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Melbourne ==<br />
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My edits remove the so-called optional /r/, because it is not identified as optional in any way. I suggest that /(r)/ would better flag its optional status, if it truly must be included. <br />
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Some may think it acceptable with common nouns to require the reader to understand that arhotic dialects are likely to omit the /r/ in such a location, but the same cannot be relied upon with proper nouns. Hence, if no variant is to be shown, omission of the /r/ is preferable (especially as the native pronunciation lacks the /r/). Ideally, the two variants should be shown - or a device (such as /(r)/, as above) be employed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.57.23.132|122.57.23.132]] ([[User talk:122.57.23.132|talk]]) 09:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi ([[User:122.57.23.132|there]], editing at wikipedia must be achieved by [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]]. You can't force your view on other editors by simply reinserting the change that has been rejected, you need to make your case at the article's talk page. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Size_14_-_Appetite_For_Self_Destruction ==<br />
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Its a digital only release for FANS. How can I expect to get sourced articles? As there has been no "Official release" via digital distribution channels yet... Is a mention in the [[Size 14]] Amazon Bio ok?<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hellotheragain1979|Hellotheragain1979]] ([[User talk:Hellotheragain1979|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hellotheragain1979|contribs]]) 10:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:If it hasn't been released then it isn't notable enough for an article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your response about M.A.D Playhouse Article ==<br />
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Hi There, As per the policy those are reliable Third-Party reports and can be considered as reliable resources. Please let me know as per the policy which part is not reliable and I will need your complete details so that the respective companies can contact you directly.--[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC): Also how do you ask someone like "do not reinstate"? where you failed to answer any of my questions on the article talk page earlier. Please try to keep calm and respond with facts. --[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Here's a fact for you, facebook and youtube are not reliable sources. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Again. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No worries mate, see you next time.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Hey [[User:Dwpaul|Dwpaul]] that message on OrangeMike's page was to ensure that account was added to sockpuppet list, why do you rv? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I only rv'd my panicking message to OM and the miscreant's modifications of it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOrangemike&diff=588188586&oldid=588184265]. Figured there wasn't any need any more to trouble OM with it, since the user is now blocked. I didn't specifically mention SPI in the post I reverted on OM's page (only in the content of the circumstances that led to the war). Didn't revert any edit of yours, did I? <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::My apology, my post isn't there at all. I mustn't have saved it properly.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::NP, feel free to rv my rv if you want to expand on my comments and make sure OM is aware of this SP. I just figured since he's apparently offline at present it wasn't his problem. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Questions==<br />
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Flat Out,<br />
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Sorry for the disturbance, but I would like to know how write to Mark Arsten. I didn't find the mean to do it...<br />
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Thank you very much !<br />
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== I have unreviewed a page you curated ==<br />
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Thanks for reviewing [[Mapping and Analyzing Data Matrices in Real Time]], Flat Out. <br />
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Unfortunately [[User:MrX|MrX]] has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:<br />
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<blockquote>I'm unreviewing this so a few more page patrollers can look at it. It may be a copyright violation.</blockquote><br />
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To reply, leave a comment on MrX's [[User talk:MrX|talk page]].<br />
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== I don't know if you celebrate Halloween but... Happy Halloween! ==<br />
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== Adaadat page deletion.. ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering what improvements I could make to stop the deletion of the Adaadat records page i just wrote? i'm new to wikipedia.. thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] to meet notability requirements, companies need to meet or exceed [[WP:CORP]]. Have a read and see if the company meets the guidelines. Cheers[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 15:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hi, I read the WP:CORP article, I'm pretty sure they meet the guidelines. I've added 3 more references and filled out the article a bit, what are you're thoughts, thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
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Please go ahead and delete this article for me because the title is supposed to be "Gerald Spangrude" not "Spangrude". This is not written about myself, but rather about my father. I have taken out the personal flavor. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]] ([[User talk:Spangrudec|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spangrudec|contribs]]) 01:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]], I have moved (re-titled) the article for you. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:03, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Content about Dr. Daisaku Ikeda ==<br />
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Hi! Thank you for sending me all the links. And thank you for WARNING me against removal of sections. But these sections have absolutely no proof of reference that such an incident with a priest of Nichiren Shoshu ever occurred. Dr. Ikeda has always been the compassionate person and followed true principles of Buddhism. Request you to check your sources and perhaps truly understand the person's mission of world peace. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]] ([[User talk:Ankitguptansk07|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ankitguptansk07|contribs]]) 02:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]], the sections you blanked did have references and you deleted them without explanation. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi man! Did you delete my page? But why? please explain why immediately after this message. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]] ([[User talk:Djobiguy46|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Djobiguy46|contribs]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]], what page are you referring to? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Raymond keene ==<br />
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Hi, I have just returned from London and volunteer at the World Memory Championships since 2001 which was founded by tony Buzan and raymond keene. Ray strongly objects to allegations of plagerism and was trying to correct the public record. What is the best way to do that?<br />
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Thanks Jennifer<br />
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:Hi [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]], wikipedia articles are summaries of what is written about a subject by reliable sources. We do not censor here. If you believe the article is incorrect please raise your concerns at the article's talk page. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:15, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== plan b reference removed from adaadat page ==<br />
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thanks for helping with the article, hhowever i'm struggling see how the plan b reference could be considered unreliable. plan b magazine was a well known internationally distributed music magazine - http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/jun/04/plan-b-magazine-remembered the author frances morgan is a well known music journalist and publisher of the magazine - http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/frances-morgan/23/214/50 and finally the last third of the article features an interview with adaadat founder angus keith talking about the label.<br />
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thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 10:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] the reference http://www.adaadat.co.uk/romvelope/img/planb.gif can not be used to support a claim about reputation because it is self-published by adaadat. It isn't independent [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:10, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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hi, i think i understand now, i should have used Cite journal instead of Cite web in the reference. by "self-published" are you referring to the fact that the scan of the article is hosted on the adaadat website? obviously the original version was published in the magazine. <br />
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Thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 11:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I just redid the reference, i found an impartial third party source for the url and i changed the citation from web to journal. Is this ok now? thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 13:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gagut]] ==<br />
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Hi Flat Out - this is actually a bit of an odd case. A lot of that page is from a deleted page [[Gabriel Oyibo]], which has been re-created off-site [http://gagutofappit.org/gagunewiki.html here]. I think that most of the rest of it is from http://gagutofappit.org/ itself, rather than from the forum (which copied it from there). Gotta duck out now - cycle to the shops before the Cricket finishes - but I'll come back and have a look at it. Pete aka --[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Weird. I think the URL was triggering some spam filter or whacky website blacklist or something like that. Anyway, it's speedily deletable under any number of criteria.--[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 07:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks mate [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 08:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A brownie for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Since we don't have a WikiLove Aussie food I thought I might go with something safe and chocolate.<p>It's always good to have other Australians working on Wikipedia, and I've seen your username around the place recently working well. <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 10:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]].. I started here in March but have just come back after taking a short break. Thanks for the chocolate! [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Go Indie TV ==<br />
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Dear Sir,<br />
In no way is my company using your site for promotional purposes. We are a solid established reputable company who believed that our company history and officers bios would be a nice addition to our coveted reputation in our field. As we are new to your site do accept our sincere apologies if you feel that Go Indie TV Broadcasting has violated or disrespected the by laws of Wikipedia. We are hopeful that we remain on Wikipedia and if there is anything that you need us to delete please do let us know.<br />
Best Regards<br />
Gregg Cannizzaro<br />
CEO<br />
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:Go Indie TV is a promotional username which is not allowed, and your user page is entirely promotional. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== hello Wikipedia: I need your help ==<br />
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Hello Dear,<br />
This is my first time join wikipedia. I need your help..<br />
I've got your Message already.. Thank you so much.. Nice to meet you.<br />
Well.. Anyway I need your help.. Please don't delete my article... And if you need me to update or change something about my Article..just tell me the wrong one.. And I will repair it for you...<br />
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Thank you<br />
Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie]] ([[User talk:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|contribs]]) 18:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:blocked for the third time it seems [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 01:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Good faith editing==<br />
For the record, I called myself "facetious", not you . . . and I have partially restored my edit to [[Allen Stanford]]. I would have appreciated a reply to my comment here rather a wholesale deletion. I appreciate your welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your BLP review. I am certain my edit satisfies its requirements. Thank you. &mdash; [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:If you expect a response from me here, then I suggest you alter your approach. As I commented on your talk page, WP:BLP applies to all mentioned living persons not just the subject of the article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I have replied on my own Talk page. [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biddenham dovecote ==<br />
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I wondered what the problem was with the above page? It is part of a series of new pages about Biddenham village pond, the Friends of the Pond and the dovecote that once stood by it. I'm new to Wikipedia so would be grateful for your advice as I would like to retain the page.<br />
And haven't used the Talk facility before so I hope this gets to you. Thank you. [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] and welcome to Wikipedia. The article needs to be supported by [[wp:rs|reliable sources]] that support the subject's notability. Nevermind about retaining the article as my nomination was not upheld. I will do my best to help you improve the article and feel free to ask me for help anytime. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can add some book references that have been written about the village to support the information. I have I suppose been building up the new pages bit by bit, learning as I go along! So will look at refining them. I still have to fathom out how to add photos that fit and don't swamp a page! Best wishes [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:34, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes if you can support each statement with a reference it will help the article survive a future nomination for deletion. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Speedy deletion declined: [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]] ==<br />
Hello Flat Out. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]], a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Software is not eligible for A7.''' Thank you. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the heads up [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]].. a bit rusty after a break :) Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:28, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No problem. I also forgot to deshoutify the template above - I still have making a better template on my todo-list. Sorry about that! [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::It's OK i'm old and deaf :P [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inappropriate deletion ==<br />
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How did you delete the links provided in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohan_Rakesh page? Did you check the Talk section? After a 3rd opinion from an independent reviewer the links were kept. why did you delete it? Did you discuss with the person who provided his opinion as the 3rd Opinion? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE]] ([[User talk:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|contribs]]) 15:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It is a spam link and has since been removed by three other editors. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Asked Permission ==<br />
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Mark Arsten gave me permission to edit the five beauty pageant. Please see his talk page and check our conversation. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]], I read it, the problem is you have no reliable sources to support your edits. Wikipedia can never be used as as a reference. See [[WP:RS]] [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thank you, I'll find reliable sources. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Melbourne ==<br />
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My edits remove the so-called optional /r/, because it is not identified as optional in any way. I suggest that /(r)/ would better flag its optional status, if it truly must be included. <br />
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Some may think it acceptable with common nouns to require the reader to understand that arhotic dialects are likely to omit the /r/ in such a location, but the same cannot be relied upon with proper nouns. Hence, if no variant is to be shown, omission of the /r/ is preferable (especially as the native pronunciation lacks the /r/). Ideally, the two variants should be shown - or a device (such as /(r)/, as above) be employed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.57.23.132|122.57.23.132]] ([[User talk:122.57.23.132|talk]]) 09:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi ([[User:122.57.23.132|there]], editing at wikipedia must be achieved by [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]]. You can't force your view on other editors by simply reinserting the change that has been rejected, you need to make your case at the article's talk page. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Size_14_-_Appetite_For_Self_Destruction ==<br />
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Its a digital only release for FANS. How can I expect to get sourced articles? As there has been no "Official release" via digital distribution channels yet... Is a mention in the [[Size 14]] Amazon Bio ok?<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hellotheragain1979|Hellotheragain1979]] ([[User talk:Hellotheragain1979|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hellotheragain1979|contribs]]) 10:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:If it hasn't been released then it isn't notable enough for an article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your response about M.A.D Playhouse Article ==<br />
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Hi There, As per the policy those are reliable Third-Party reports and can be considered as reliable resources. Please let me know as per the policy which part is not reliable and I will need your complete details so that the respective companies can contact you directly.--[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC): Also how do you ask someone like "do not reinstate"? where you failed to answer any of my questions on the article talk page earlier. Please try to keep calm and respond with facts. --[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Here's a fact for you, facebook and youtube are not reliable sources. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Again. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No worries mate, see you next time.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Hey [[User:Dwpaul|Dwpaul]] that message on OrangeMike's page was to ensure that account was added to sockpuppet list, why do you rv? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I only rv'd my panicking message to OM and the miscreant's modifications of it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOrangemike&diff=588188586&oldid=588184265]. Figured there wasn't any need any more to trouble OM with it, since the user is now blocked. I didn't specifically mention SPI in the post I reverted on OM's page (only in the content of the circumstances that led to the war). Didn't revert any edit of yours, did I? <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::My apology, my post isn't there at all. I mustn't have saved it properly.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::NP, feel free to rv my rv if you want to expand on my comments and make sure OM is aware of this SP. I just figured since he's apparently offline at present it wasn't his problem. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Flat Out,<br />
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Sorry for the disturbance, but I would like to know how write to Mark Arsten. I didn't find the mean to do it...<br />
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Thank you very much !<br />
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== I have unreviewed a page you curated ==<br />
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Thanks for reviewing [[Mapping and Analyzing Data Matrices in Real Time]], Flat Out. <br />
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Unfortunately [[User:MrX|MrX]] has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:<br />
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<blockquote>I'm unreviewing this so a few more page patrollers can look at it. It may be a copyright violation.</blockquote><br />
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To reply, leave a comment on MrX's [[User talk:MrX|talk page]].<br />
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== I don't know if you celebrate Halloween but... Happy Halloween! ==<br />
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== Adaadat page deletion.. ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering what improvements I could make to stop the deletion of the Adaadat records page i just wrote? i'm new to wikipedia.. thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] to meet notability requirements, companies need to meet or exceed [[WP:CORP]]. Have a read and see if the company meets the guidelines. Cheers[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 15:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hi, I read the WP:CORP article, I'm pretty sure they meet the guidelines. I've added 3 more references and filled out the article a bit, what are you're thoughts, thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
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Please go ahead and delete this article for me because the title is supposed to be "Gerald Spangrude" not "Spangrude". This is not written about myself, but rather about my father. I have taken out the personal flavor. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]] ([[User talk:Spangrudec|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spangrudec|contribs]]) 01:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]], I have moved (re-titled) the article for you. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:03, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Content about Dr. Daisaku Ikeda ==<br />
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Hi! Thank you for sending me all the links. And thank you for WARNING me against removal of sections. But these sections have absolutely no proof of reference that such an incident with a priest of Nichiren Shoshu ever occurred. Dr. Ikeda has always been the compassionate person and followed true principles of Buddhism. Request you to check your sources and perhaps truly understand the person's mission of world peace. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]] ([[User talk:Ankitguptansk07|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ankitguptansk07|contribs]]) 02:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]], the sections you blanked did have references and you deleted them without explanation. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi man! Did you delete my page? But why? please explain why immediately after this message. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]] ([[User talk:Djobiguy46|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Djobiguy46|contribs]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]], what page are you referring to? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Raymond keene ==<br />
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Hi, I have just returned from London and volunteer at the World Memory Championships since 2001 which was founded by tony Buzan and raymond keene. Ray strongly objects to allegations of plagerism and was trying to correct the public record. What is the best way to do that?<br />
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Thanks Jennifer<br />
Gold Coast <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]] ([[User talk:Jennifer.goddard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jennifer.goddard|contribs]]) 02:38, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]], wikipedia articles are summaries of what is written about a subject by reliable sources. We do not censor here. If you believe the article is incorrect please raise your concerns at the article's talk page. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:15, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== plan b reference removed from adaadat page ==<br />
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thanks for helping with the article, hhowever i'm struggling see how the plan b reference could be considered unreliable. plan b magazine was a well known internationally distributed music magazine - http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/jun/04/plan-b-magazine-remembered the author frances morgan is a well known music journalist and publisher of the magazine - http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/frances-morgan/23/214/50 and finally the last third of the article features an interview with adaadat founder angus keith talking about the label.<br />
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thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 10:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] the reference http://www.adaadat.co.uk/romvelope/img/planb.gif can not be used to support a claim about reputation because it is self-published by adaadat. It isn't independent [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:10, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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hi, i think i understand now, i should have used Cite journal instead of Cite web in the reference. by "self-published" are you referring to the fact that the scan of the article is hosted on the adaadat website? obviously the original version was published in the magazine. <br />
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Thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 11:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I just redid the reference, i found an impartial third party source for the url and i changed the citation from web to journal. Is this ok now? thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 13:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gagut]] ==<br />
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Hi Flat Out - this is actually a bit of an odd case. A lot of that page is from a deleted page [[Gabriel Oyibo]], which has been re-created off-site [http://gagutofappit.org/gagunewiki.html here]. I think that most of the rest of it is from http://gagutofappit.org/ itself, rather than from the forum (which copied it from there). Gotta duck out now - cycle to the shops before the Cricket finishes - but I'll come back and have a look at it. Pete aka --[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Weird. I think the URL was triggering some spam filter or whacky website blacklist or something like that. Anyway, it's speedily deletable under any number of criteria.--[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 07:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks mate [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 08:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A brownie for you! ==<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]].. I started here in March but have just come back after taking a short break. Thanks for the chocolate! [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Go Indie TV ==<br />
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Dear Sir,<br />
In no way is my company using your site for promotional purposes. We are a solid established reputable company who believed that our company history and officers bios would be a nice addition to our coveted reputation in our field. As we are new to your site do accept our sincere apologies if you feel that Go Indie TV Broadcasting has violated or disrespected the by laws of Wikipedia. We are hopeful that we remain on Wikipedia and if there is anything that you need us to delete please do let us know.<br />
Best Regards<br />
Gregg Cannizzaro<br />
CEO<br />
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:Go Indie TV is a promotional username which is not allowed, and your user page is entirely promotional. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== hello Wikipedia: I need your help ==<br />
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Hello Dear,<br />
This is my first time join wikipedia. I need your help..<br />
I've got your Message already.. Thank you so much.. Nice to meet you.<br />
Well.. Anyway I need your help.. Please don't delete my article... And if you need me to update or change something about my Article..just tell me the wrong one.. And I will repair it for you...<br />
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Thank you<br />
Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie]] ([[User talk:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|contribs]]) 18:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:blocked for the third time it seems [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 01:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Good faith editing==<br />
For the record, I called myself "facetious", not you . . . and I have partially restored my edit to [[Allen Stanford]]. I would have appreciated a reply to my comment here rather a wholesale deletion. I appreciate your welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your BLP review. I am certain my edit satisfies its requirements. Thank you. &mdash; [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:If you expect a response from me here, then I suggest you alter your approach. As I commented on your talk page, WP:BLP applies to all mentioned living persons not just the subject of the article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I have replied on my own Talk page. [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biddenham dovecote ==<br />
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I wondered what the problem was with the above page? It is part of a series of new pages about Biddenham village pond, the Friends of the Pond and the dovecote that once stood by it. I'm new to Wikipedia so would be grateful for your advice as I would like to retain the page.<br />
And haven't used the Talk facility before so I hope this gets to you. Thank you. [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] and welcome to Wikipedia. The article needs to be supported by [[wp:rs|reliable sources]] that support the subject's notability. Nevermind about retaining the article as my nomination was not upheld. I will do my best to help you improve the article and feel free to ask me for help anytime. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can add some book references that have been written about the village to support the information. I have I suppose been building up the new pages bit by bit, learning as I go along! So will look at refining them. I still have to fathom out how to add photos that fit and don't swamp a page! Best wishes [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:34, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes if you can support each statement with a reference it will help the article survive a future nomination for deletion. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Speedy deletion declined: [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]] ==<br />
Hello Flat Out. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]], a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Software is not eligible for A7.''' Thank you. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the heads up [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]].. a bit rusty after a break :) Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:28, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No problem. I also forgot to deshoutify the template above - I still have making a better template on my todo-list. Sorry about that! [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::It's OK i'm old and deaf :P [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inappropriate deletion ==<br />
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How did you delete the links provided in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohan_Rakesh page? Did you check the Talk section? After a 3rd opinion from an independent reviewer the links were kept. why did you delete it? Did you discuss with the person who provided his opinion as the 3rd Opinion? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE]] ([[User talk:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|contribs]]) 15:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It is a spam link and has since been removed by three other editors. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Asked Permission ==<br />
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Mark Arsten gave me permission to edit the five beauty pageant. Please see his talk page and check our conversation. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]], I read it, the problem is you have no reliable sources to support your edits. Wikipedia can never be used as as a reference. See [[WP:RS]] [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thank you, I'll find reliable sources. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Melbourne ==<br />
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My edits remove the so-called optional /r/, because it is not identified as optional in any way. I suggest that /(r)/ would better flag its optional status, if it truly must be included. <br />
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Some may think it acceptable with common nouns to require the reader to understand that arhotic dialects are likely to omit the /r/ in such a location, but the same cannot be relied upon with proper nouns. Hence, if no variant is to be shown, omission of the /r/ is preferable (especially as the native pronunciation lacks the /r/). Ideally, the two variants should be shown - or a device (such as /(r)/, as above) be employed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.57.23.132|122.57.23.132]] ([[User talk:122.57.23.132|talk]]) 09:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi ([[User:122.57.23.132|there]], editing at wikipedia must be achieved by [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]]. You can't force your view on other editors by simply reinserting the change that has been rejected, you need to make your case at the article's talk page. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Size_14_-_Appetite_For_Self_Destruction ==<br />
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Its a digital only release for FANS. How can I expect to get sourced articles? As there has been no "Official release" via digital distribution channels yet... Is a mention in the [[Size 14]] Amazon Bio ok?<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hellotheragain1979|Hellotheragain1979]] ([[User talk:Hellotheragain1979|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hellotheragain1979|contribs]]) 10:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:If it hasn't been released then it isn't notable enough for an article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your response about M.A.D Playhouse Article ==<br />
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Hi There, As per the policy those are reliable Third-Party reports and can be considered as reliable resources. Please let me know as per the policy which part is not reliable and I will need your complete details so that the respective companies can contact you directly.--[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC): Also how do you ask someone like "do not reinstate"? where you failed to answer any of my questions on the article talk page earlier. Please try to keep calm and respond with facts. --[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Here's a fact for you, facebook and youtube are not reliable sources. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Again. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No worries mate, see you next time.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Hey [[User:Dwpaul|Dwpaul]] that message on OrangeMike's page was to ensure that account was added to sockpuppet list, why do you rv? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I only rv'd my panicking message to OM and the miscreant's modifications of it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AOrangemike&diff=588188586&oldid=588184265]. Figured there wasn't any need any more to trouble OM with it, since the user is now blocked. I didn't specifically mention SPI in the post I reverted on OM's page (only in the content of the circumstances that led to the war). Didn't revert any edit of yours, did I? <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::My apology, my post isn't there at all. I mustn't have saved it properly.[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::NP, feel free to rv my rv if you want to expand on my comments and make sure OM is aware of this SP. I just figured since he's apparently offline at present it wasn't his problem. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">[[User:Dwpaul|<font color="#006633">Dwpaul</font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:Dwpaul|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 09:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Flat_Out&diff=588213529User talk:Flat Out2013-12-29T14:22:37Z<p>Drapé: /* Thanks and questions */ new section</p>
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== I have unreviewed a page you curated ==<br />
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Thanks for reviewing [[Mapping and Analyzing Data Matrices in Real Time]], Flat Out. <br />
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Unfortunately [[User:MrX|MrX]] has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:<br />
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<blockquote>I'm unreviewing this so a few more page patrollers can look at it. It may be a copyright violation.</blockquote><br />
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== I don't know if you celebrate Halloween but... Happy Halloween! ==<br />
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== Adaadat page deletion.. ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering what improvements I could make to stop the deletion of the Adaadat records page i just wrote? i'm new to wikipedia.. thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] to meet notability requirements, companies need to meet or exceed [[WP:CORP]]. Have a read and see if the company meets the guidelines. Cheers[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 15:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Hi, I read the WP:CORP article, I'm pretty sure they meet the guidelines. I've added 3 more references and filled out the article a bit, what are you're thoughts, thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
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Please go ahead and delete this article for me because the title is supposed to be "Gerald Spangrude" not "Spangrude". This is not written about myself, but rather about my father. I have taken out the personal flavor. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]] ([[User talk:Spangrudec|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spangrudec|contribs]]) 01:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Spangrudec|Spangrudec]], I have moved (re-titled) the article for you. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:03, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Content about Dr. Daisaku Ikeda ==<br />
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Hi! Thank you for sending me all the links. And thank you for WARNING me against removal of sections. But these sections have absolutely no proof of reference that such an incident with a priest of Nichiren Shoshu ever occurred. Dr. Ikeda has always been the compassionate person and followed true principles of Buddhism. Request you to check your sources and perhaps truly understand the person's mission of world peace. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]] ([[User talk:Ankitguptansk07|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ankitguptansk07|contribs]]) 02:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Ankitguptansk07|Ankitguptansk07]], the sections you blanked did have references and you deleted them without explanation. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi man! Did you delete my page? But why? please explain why immediately after this message. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]] ([[User talk:Djobiguy46|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Djobiguy46|contribs]]) 02:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Djobiguy46|Djobiguy46]], what page are you referring to? [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:12, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Raymond keene ==<br />
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Hi, I have just returned from London and volunteer at the World Memory Championships since 2001 which was founded by tony Buzan and raymond keene. Ray strongly objects to allegations of plagerism and was trying to correct the public record. What is the best way to do that?<br />
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Thanks Jennifer<br />
Gold Coast <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]] ([[User talk:Jennifer.goddard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jennifer.goddard|contribs]]) 02:38, 24 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Jennifer.goddard|Jennifer.goddard]], wikipedia articles are summaries of what is written about a subject by reliable sources. We do not censor here. If you believe the article is incorrect please raise your concerns at the article's talk page. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:15, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== plan b reference removed from adaadat page ==<br />
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thanks for helping with the article, hhowever i'm struggling see how the plan b reference could be considered unreliable. plan b magazine was a well known internationally distributed music magazine - http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/jun/04/plan-b-magazine-remembered the author frances morgan is a well known music journalist and publisher of the magazine - http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/frances-morgan/23/214/50 and finally the last third of the article features an interview with adaadat founder angus keith talking about the label.<br />
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thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 10:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] the reference http://www.adaadat.co.uk/romvelope/img/planb.gif can not be used to support a claim about reputation because it is self-published by adaadat. It isn't independent [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:10, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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hi, i think i understand now, i should have used Cite journal instead of Cite web in the reference. by "self-published" are you referring to the fact that the scan of the article is hosted on the adaadat website? obviously the original version was published in the magazine. <br />
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Thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 11:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I just redid the reference, i found an impartial third party source for the url and i changed the citation from web to journal. Is this ok now? thanks [[User:Bioruhaileskou|Bioruhaileskou]] ([[User talk:Bioruhaileskou|talk]]) 13:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Gagut]] ==<br />
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Hi Flat Out - this is actually a bit of an odd case. A lot of that page is from a deleted page [[Gabriel Oyibo]], which has been re-created off-site [http://gagutofappit.org/gagunewiki.html here]. I think that most of the rest of it is from http://gagutofappit.org/ itself, rather than from the forum (which copied it from there). Gotta duck out now - cycle to the shops before the Cricket finishes - but I'll come back and have a look at it. Pete aka --[[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 06:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Weird. I think the URL was triggering some spam filter or whacky website blacklist or something like that. Anyway, it's speedily deletable under any number of criteria.--[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 07:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks mate [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 08:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== A brownie for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Since we don't have a WikiLove Aussie food I thought I might go with something safe and chocolate.<p>It's always good to have other Australians working on Wikipedia, and I've seen your username around the place recently working well. <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 10:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks [[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]].. I started here in March but have just come back after taking a short break. Thanks for the chocolate! [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Go Indie TV ==<br />
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Dear Sir,<br />
In no way is my company using your site for promotional purposes. We are a solid established reputable company who believed that our company history and officers bios would be a nice addition to our coveted reputation in our field. As we are new to your site do accept our sincere apologies if you feel that Go Indie TV Broadcasting has violated or disrespected the by laws of Wikipedia. We are hopeful that we remain on Wikipedia and if there is anything that you need us to delete please do let us know.<br />
Best Regards<br />
Gregg Cannizzaro<br />
CEO<br />
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:Go Indie TV is a promotional username which is not allowed, and your user page is entirely promotional. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== hello Wikipedia: I need your help ==<br />
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Hello Dear,<br />
This is my first time join wikipedia. I need your help..<br />
I've got your Message already.. Thank you so much.. Nice to meet you.<br />
Well.. Anyway I need your help.. Please don't delete my article... And if you need me to update or change something about my Article..just tell me the wrong one.. And I will repair it for you...<br />
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Thank you<br />
Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie]] ([[User talk:Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rudy Kurniawan Lie Ruddlie|contribs]]) 18:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:blocked for the third time it seems [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 01:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Good faith editing==<br />
For the record, I called myself "facetious", not you . . . and I have partially restored my edit to [[Allen Stanford]]. I would have appreciated a reply to my comment here rather a wholesale deletion. I appreciate your welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your BLP review. I am certain my edit satisfies its requirements. Thank you. &mdash; [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:If you expect a response from me here, then I suggest you alter your approach. As I commented on your talk page, WP:BLP applies to all mentioned living persons not just the subject of the article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I have replied on my own Talk page. [[User:GeeIsUs.|GeeIsUs.]] ([[User talk:GeeIsUs.|talk]]) 11:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Biddenham dovecote ==<br />
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I wondered what the problem was with the above page? It is part of a series of new pages about Biddenham village pond, the Friends of the Pond and the dovecote that once stood by it. I'm new to Wikipedia so would be grateful for your advice as I would like to retain the page.<br />
And haven't used the Talk facility before so I hope this gets to you. Thank you. [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] and welcome to Wikipedia. The article needs to be supported by [[wp:rs|reliable sources]] that support the subject's notability. Nevermind about retaining the article as my nomination was not upheld. I will do my best to help you improve the article and feel free to ask me for help anytime. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can add some book references that have been written about the village to support the information. I have I suppose been building up the new pages bit by bit, learning as I go along! So will look at refining them. I still have to fathom out how to add photos that fit and don't swamp a page! Best wishes [[User:Fotbvp|Fotbvp]] ([[User talk:Fotbvp|talk]]) 11:34, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes if you can support each statement with a reference it will help the article survive a future nomination for deletion. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Speedy deletion declined: [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]] ==<br />
Hello Flat Out. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of [[:Blackadder (named data networking)]], a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Software is not eligible for A7.''' Thank you. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the heads up [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]].. a bit rusty after a break :) Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:28, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No problem. I also forgot to deshoutify the template above - I still have making a better template on my todo-list. Sorry about that! [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 11:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::It's OK i'm old and deaf :P [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 11:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Inappropriate deletion ==<br />
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How did you delete the links provided in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohan_Rakesh page? Did you check the Talk section? After a 3rd opinion from an independent reviewer the links were kept. why did you delete it? Did you discuss with the person who provided his opinion as the 3rd Opinion? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE]] ([[User talk:DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DipanjanMADPLAYHOUSE|contribs]]) 15:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:It is a spam link and has since been removed by three other editors. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 02:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Asked Permission ==<br />
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Mark Arsten gave me permission to edit the five beauty pageant. Please see his talk page and check our conversation. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]], I read it, the problem is you have no reliable sources to support your edits. Wikipedia can never be used as as a reference. See [[WP:RS]] [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thank you, I'll find reliable sources. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Markimatix|Markimatix]] ([[User talk:Markimatix|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markimatix|contribs]]) 09:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Melbourne ==<br />
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My edits remove the so-called optional /r/, because it is not identified as optional in any way. I suggest that /(r)/ would better flag its optional status, if it truly must be included. <br />
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Some may think it acceptable with common nouns to require the reader to understand that arhotic dialects are likely to omit the /r/ in such a location, but the same cannot be relied upon with proper nouns. Hence, if no variant is to be shown, omission of the /r/ is preferable (especially as the native pronunciation lacks the /r/). Ideally, the two variants should be shown - or a device (such as /(r)/, as above) be employed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.57.23.132|122.57.23.132]] ([[User talk:122.57.23.132|talk]]) 09:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Hi ([[User:122.57.23.132|there]], editing at wikipedia must be achieved by [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]]. You can't force your view on other editors by simply reinserting the change that has been rejected, you need to make your case at the article's talk page. Best wishes [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 09:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Size_14_-_Appetite_For_Self_Destruction ==<br />
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Its a digital only release for FANS. How can I expect to get sourced articles? As there has been no "Official release" via digital distribution channels yet... Is a mention in the [[Size 14]] Amazon Bio ok?<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hellotheragain1979|Hellotheragain1979]] ([[User talk:Hellotheragain1979|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hellotheragain1979|contribs]]) 10:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:If it hasn't been released then it isn't notable enough for an article. [[User:Flat Out|'''<font color="blue">Flat Out</font>]] [[User talk:Flat Out|<font color="red"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''''let's discuss it'''''</span></font>]] 10:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Your response about M.A.D Playhouse Article ==<br />
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Hi There, As per the policy those are reliable Third-Party reports and can be considered as reliable resources. Please let me know as per the policy which part is not reliable and I will need your complete details so that the respective companies can contact you directly.--[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC): Also how do you ask someone like "do not reinstate"? where you failed to answer any of my questions on the article talk page earlier. Please try to keep calm and respond with facts. --[[User:Krazywriter|Krazywriter]] ([[User talk:Krazywriter|talk]]) 06:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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|image = File:London Barbican Hall LSO Haitink.jpg<br />
| caption = [[Bernard Haitink]] and the London Symphony Orchestra at the Barbican Hall, June 2011<br />
| founded = 1904<br />
| concert_hall = [[Barbican Centre]]<br />
| principal_conductor = [[Valery Gergiev]]<br />
| website = {{URL|www.lso.co.uk}}<br />
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The '''London Symphony Orchestra''' ('''LSO'''), founded in 1904, is the oldest of London's symphony orchestras. It was set up by a group of players who left [[Henry Wood]]'s [[Queen's Hall|Queen's Hall Orchestra]] because of a new rule requiring players to give the orchestra their exclusive services. The LSO itself later introduced a similar rule for its members. From the outset the LSO was organised on co-operative lines, with all players sharing the profits at the end of each season. This practice continued for the orchestra's first four decades.<br />
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The LSO underwent periods of eclipse in the 1930s and 1950s when it was regarded as inferior in quality to new London orchestras, to which it lost players and bookings: the [[BBC Symphony Orchestra]] and the [[London Philharmonic Orchestra|London Philharmonic]] in the 1930s and the [[Philharmonia Orchestra|Philharmonia]] and [[Royal Philharmonic Orchestra|Royal Philharmonic]] after the Second World War. The profit-sharing principle was abandoned in the post-war era as a condition of receiving public subsidy for the first time. In the 1950s the orchestra debated whether to concentrate on film work at the expense of symphony concerts; many senior players left when the majority of players rejected the idea. By the 1960s the LSO had recovered its leading position, which it has retained subsequently. In 1966, to perform alongside it in choral works, the orchestra established the [[London Symphony Chorus|LSO Chorus]], originally a mix of professional and amateur singers, later a wholly amateur ensemble.<br />
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As a self-governing body, the orchestra selects the conductors with whom it works. At some stages in its history it has dispensed with a principal conductor and worked only with guests. Among conductors with whom it is most associated are, in its early days, [[Hans Richter (conductor)|Hans Richter]], [[Edward Elgar|Sir Edward Elgar]], and [[Thomas Beecham|Sir Thomas Beecham]], and in more recent decades [[Pierre Monteux]], [[André Previn]], [[Claudio Abbado]], [[Colin Davis|Sir Colin Davis]] and [[Valery Gergiev]].<br />
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Since 1982, the LSO has been based in the [[Barbican Centre]] in the [[City of London]]. Among its programmes there have been large-scale festivals celebrating composers as diverse as [[Hector Berlioz|Berlioz]], [[Gustav Mahler|Mahler]] and [[Leonard Bernstein|Bernstein]]. The LSO claims to be the world's most recorded orchestra; it has made gramophone recordings since 1912 and has played on more than 200 soundtrack recordings for the cinema, of which the best known include the ''[[Star Wars]]'' series. <br />
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==History==<br />
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===Background===<br />
[[File:LSO-founders.jpg|thumb|right|upright|Clockwise from top left: [[Adolf Borsdorf]], Thomas Busby, John Solomon and Henri van der Meerschen, founding fathers of the LSO]]<br />
At the turn of the twentieth century there were no permanent [[Salary|salaried]] orchestras in London. The main orchestras were those of [[Royal Opera House|Covent Garden]], the [[Royal Philharmonic Society|Philharmonic Society]] and the [[Queen's Hall]]; their proprietors engaged players individually for each concert or for a season. As there were competing demands for the services of the finest players it was an accepted practice that, even though under contract to play for a concert, a player was at liberty to accept a better-paid engagement if it were offered. He would then engage another player to deputise at him for the original concert and the rehearsals for it. The treasurer of the Philharmonic Society described the system thus: "A, whom you want, signs to play at your concert. He sends B (whom you don't mind) to the first rehearsal. B, without your knowledge or consent, sends C to the second rehearsal. Not being able to play at the concert, C sends D, whom you would have paid five [[shilling]]s to stay away."<ref>Levien, John Mewburn, ''quoted'' in Reid, p. 50</ref> There was much competition for good orchestral players, with well-paid engagements offered by more than fifty [[music hall]]s, by pit bands in [[West End theatre|West End]] [[Edwardian musical comedy|musical comedies]], and by grand hotels and restaurants which maintained orchestras.<ref>Morrison, p. 12</ref><br />
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In 1904, the manager of the Queen's Hall, [[Robert Newman (impresario)|Robert Newman]] and the conductor of his [[the Proms|promenade concerts]], [[Henry Wood]], agreed that they could no longer tolerate the deputy system. After a rehearsal in which Wood was faced with dozens of unfamiliar faces in his own orchestra, Newman came to the platform and announced: "Gentlemen, in future there will be ''no'' deputies! Good morning!"<ref>Wood, p. 212</ref> This caused a furore. Orchestral musicians were not highly paid, and removing their chances of better-paid engagements permitted by the deputy system was a serious financial blow to many of them.<ref name=mt>[http://www.jstor.org/stable/906448 "The London Symphony Orchestra"], ''[[The Musical Times]]'', Vol. 52, No. 825 (November 1911), pp. 705–707 {{subscription}}</ref> While travelling by train to play under Wood at a music festival in the north of England in May 1904, soon after Newman's announcement, some of his leading players discussed the situation and agreed to try to form their own orchestra. The principal movers were three horn players ([[Adolf Borsdorf]], Thomas Busby, and Henri van der Meerschen) and a trumpeter, John Solomon.<ref name=mt/><br />
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===Foundation===<br />
[[File:Hans Richter portrait photo.jpg|thumb|right|upright|Hans Richter, first conductor of the LSO]]<br />
Busby organised a meeting at St. Andrew's Hall, not far from the Queen's Hall. Invitations were sent to present and former members of the Queen's Hall Orchestra. About a hundred players attended.<ref name=mt/> Busby explained the scheme: a new [[Musical ensemble|ensemble]], the London Symphony Orchestra,{{#tag:ref|The orchestra was not the first to appear under this title: in the 1890s a group of about 41 players performed in [[London, Ontario]], Canada, as the London Symphony Orchestra.<ref>[http://archive.org/stream/cihm_57844#page/n3/mode/2up London Symphony Orchestra programme, 11 February 1890], Open Library, accessed 16 July 2012</ref>|group= n}} to be run on [[Cooperative|co-operative]] lines, "something akin to a Musical Republic",<ref>Morrison, p. 19</ref> with a constitution that gave the organisation independence.{{#tag:ref|The orchestra was incorporated under the Limited Liability Act with a capital of £1,000 in £1 shares. Every member was required to hold £10 in shares.<ref name=m36>Morrison, pp. 36–37</ref>|group= n}} At concerts promoted by the LSO the members played without fee, their remuneration coming at the end of each season in a division of the orchestra's profits.<ref name=mt/> This worked well in good years, but any poorly-patronised series left members out of pocket, and reliant on the LSO's engagements to play for provincial choral societies and other managements.<ref name=m36/> The proposal was approved unanimously, and a management committee was elected, comprising the four original movers and Alfred Hobday (viola) and E F (Fred) James (bassoon).<ref name=mt/> Busby was appointed chief executive, a post variously titled "Secretary", "Managing Director", "General Secretary" and "General Manager" over the years.<ref>Morrison, p. 258</ref><br />
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Borsdorf was a player of international reputation, and through his influence the orchestra secured [[Hans Richter (conductor)|Hans Richter]] to conduct its first concert.<ref name=mt/> Newman held no grudge against the rebels, and made the Queen's Hall available to them. He and Wood attended the LSO's first concert, on 9 June 1904.<ref>Jacobs, p. 100</ref> The programme consisted of the prelude to ''[[Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg|Die Meistersinger]]'', music by [[Johann Sebastian Bach|Bach]], [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]], [[Edward Elgar|Elgar]] and [[Franz Liszt|Liszt]], and finally [[Ludwig van Beethoven|Beethoven's]] [[Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)|Fifth Symphony]].<ref name=fm/> In a favourable review in ''[[The Times]]'', [[John Alexander Fuller Maitland|J A Fuller Maitland]] noted that 49 members of the new orchestra were rebels against Newman's no-deputy rule, 32 had left the Queen's Hall Orchestra earlier, and the other 21 had no connexion with Wood and Newman.<ref name=fm>"Concerts", ''The Times'', 10 June 1904, p. 7</ref> <br />
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In a profile of the orchestra in 1911, ''[[The Musical Times]]'' commented:<br />
{{quote|Thus encouraged, the committee ventured to arrange for a series of symphony concerts at Queen's Hall. They had no regular conductor, and to this day they have pursued this policy of freedom. Dr. (now Sir) Frederic Cowen conducted the first concert of the series on October 27, 1904, and the others were conducted by Herr Arthur Nikisch, Mr. Fritz Steinbach, Sir Charles Stanford, M. Edouard Colonne, Sir Edward Elgar, and Mr. Georg Henschel. At every one of these concerts brilliant performances were given, and the reputation of the organization as one of the finest of its kind in the world was made.<ref name=mt/>|}}<br />
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===Early years===<br />
The orchestra made its first British tour in 1905, conducted by [[Edward Elgar|Sir Edward Elgar]].<ref name=lso1900s/> Elgar's conducting was highly praised; as to the orchestra, [[Ernest Newman]] wrote in ''[[The Manchester Guardian]]'', "Its brass and its wood-wind were seen to be of exceptional quality, but the strings, fine as they are, have not the substance nor the colour of [[the Hallé]] strings."<ref>Newman, Ernest. "The Harrison Concert", ''The Manchester Guardian'', 16 November 1905, p. 12</ref> The following year the LSO played outside Britain for the first time, giving concerts in Paris, conducted by [[Edouard Colonne]], [[Charles Villiers Stanford|Sir Charles Stanford]] and [[André Messager]]. [[Richard Morrison (music critic)|Richard Morrison]], in his centenary study of the LSO, writes of "stodgy programmes of insipid Cowen, worthy Stanford, dull Parry and mediocre Mackenzie";{{#tag:ref|[[Frederic Hymen Cowen]] was better known as a conductor than as a composer.<ref>Dibble, Jeremy and Jennifer Spencer. [http://www.oxfordmusiconline.com/subscriber/article/grove/music/06744 "Cowen, Sir Frederic Hymen"], Grove Music Online, Oxford University Press, accessed 3 April 2013 {{subscription}}</ref><br />
[[Charles Villiers Stanford]], [[Hubert Parry]] and [[Alexander Mackenzie (composer)|Alexander Mackenzie]] were British composers of the "[[English musical renaissance]]". Some of their works, notably choral music by Stanford and Parry, have retained a place in the repertoire, but little of their purely orchestral music is regularly played. At the time, they held considerable sway in British musical life.<ref>Stradling and Hughes, p. 52</ref>|group= n}} they put the Parisian public off to a considerable degree, and the players ended up out of pocket.<ref>Morrison pp. 35–36</ref><br />
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[[File:Elgar-LSO-1911.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Elgar and the LSO, Queen's Hall, 1911]]<br />
In its early years, Richter was the LSO's most frequently-engaged conductor, with four or five concerts every season;<ref>Morrison, p. 28</ref> the orchestra's website and Morrison's 2004 book both count him as the orchestra's first chief conductor, though the 1911 ''Musical Times'' article indicates otherwise.<ref name=mt/><ref name=lso1900s>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3150/1900s-and-1910s "1900s and 1910s"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 7 July 2012; Morrison, p. 26</ref> Richter retired from conducting in 1911, and Elgar was elected conductor-in-chief for the 1911–12 season. Elgar conducted six concerts, [[Arthur Nikisch]] three, and [[Willem Mengelberg]], [[Fritz Steinbach]] and [[Gustave Doret]] one each.<ref name=mt/> As a conductor Elgar did not prove to be a big enough box-office draw, and after one season he was replaced by the charismatic Hungarian maestro Nikisch.<ref>Morrison, p. 42</ref><br />
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Nikisch was invited to tour North America in 1912, and despite his long association with the [[Berlin Philharmonic]] and [[Leipzig Gewandhaus]] orchestras, he insisted that the LSO should be contracted for the tour.<ref>Morrison, pp. 44–45</ref> The orchestra, 100-strong (all men except for the harpist),<ref>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3452/100-years-of-the-Titanic "100 years of the Titanic"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 16 July 2012</ref> was booked to sail on the [[RMS Titanic|Titanic]], but the tour schedule was changed at the last minute, and the players sailed safely on the [[RMS Baltic (1903)|Baltic]].<ref name=m45>Morrison, p. 45</ref> The tour was arduous, but a triumph. ''[[New York Press (historical)|The New York Press]]'' said, "The great British band played with a vigor, force and temperamental impetuousness that almost lifted the listener out of his seat."<ref>''Quoted'' in Morrison, p. 46</ref> ''[[The New York Times]]'' praised all departments of the orchestra, though, like ''The Manchester Guardian'', it found the strings "brilliant rather than mellow". The paper had a little fun at the LSO's expense: from the viewpoint of a country that had long enjoyed permanent, salaried orchestras such as the [[Boston Symphony]], it gently mocked the LSO's "bold stand for the sacred right of sending substitutes"<ref>[http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=990DE5D6143CE633A2575AC0A9629C946396D6CF "Arthur Nikisch Welcomed Here – Gives His First Concert with London Symphony Orchestra in Carnegie Hall"], ''The New York Times'', 9 April 1912</ref><br />
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===First World War and 1920s===<br />
Shortly after the beginning of the war the board of the orchestra received a petition from rank and file players protesting about Borsdorf's continued membership of the LSO. Although he had done as much as anyone to found the orchestra, had lived in Britain for 30 years and was married to an Englishwoman, Borsdorf was regarded by some colleagues as an [[enemy alien]] and was forced out of the orchestra.<ref>Morrison, p. 21</ref><br />
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[[File:Beecham-1910-crop.jpg|thumb|right|upright|Sir Thomas Beecham]]<br />
During the war the musical life of Britain was drastically curtailed. The LSO was helped to survive by large donations from [[Thomas Beecham|Sir Thomas Beecham]], who also subsidised the Hallé and the Royal Philharmonic Society. For a year he took the role, though not the title, of chief conductor of the LSO. In 1916 his millionaire father died and Beecham's financial affairs became too complicated for any further musical philanthropy on his part.<ref>Lucas, pp. 45–147</ref> In 1917 the LSO's directors agreed unanimously that they would promote no more concerts until the end of the war.<ref>Morrison, p. 54</ref> The orchestra played for other managements, and managed to survive, although the hitherto remunerative work for regional choral societies dwindled to almost nothing.<ref>Morrison, p. 55</ref> <br />
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When peace resumed, many of the former players were unavailable. A third of the orchestra's pre-war members were in the armed forces, and rebuilding was urgently needed.<ref name=m56>Morrison, p. 56</ref> The orchestra was willing to allow the ambitious conductor [[Albert Coates (musician)|Albert Coates]] to put himself forward as chief conductor. Coates had three attractions for the orchestra: he was a pupil of Nikisch, he had rich and influential contacts, and he was willing to conduct without fee.<ref name=m56/> He and the orchestra got off to a disastrous start. Their first concert featured the premiere of Elgar's [[Cello Concerto (Elgar)|Cello Concerto]]. Apart from the concerto, which the composer conducted, the rest of the programme was conducted by Coates, who overran his rehearsal time at the expense of Elgar's. Lady Elgar wrote, "that brutal selfish ill-mannered bounder&nbsp;... that brute Coates went on rehearsing."<ref name=webber>Lloyd-Webber, Julian, [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/3665153/How-I-fell-in-love-with-E-Es-darling.html "How I fell in love with E E's darling",] ''[[The Daily Telegraph]]'', 17 May 2007; and Anderson, Keith, Liner notes to Naxos CD 8.550503, Dvořák and Elgar Cello Concertos (1992), p. 4</ref> In ''[[The Observer]]'' Newman wrote, "There have been rumours about during the week of inadequate rehearsal. Whatever the explanation, the sad fact remains that never, in all probability, has so great an orchestra made so lamentable an exhibition of itself."<ref>Newman, Ernest, "Music of the Week", ''The Observer'', 2 November 1919, p. 11</ref> Coates remained as chief conductor for two seasons, and after the initial debacle is credited by Morrison with "breathing life and energy into the orchestra".<ref name=m57>Morrison, p. 57</ref><br />
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After Coates left, the orchestra reverted to its preferred practice of engaging numerous guest conductors rather than a single principal conductor.<ref name=m57/> Among the guests were Elgar, Beecham, [[Otto Klemperer]], [[Bruno Walter]], [[Wilhelm Furtwängler]] and [[Serge Koussevitzky]]; soloists in the 1920s included [[Sergei Rachmaninoff]], [[Artur Schnabel]] and the young [[Yehudi Menuhin]]. Revenues were substantial, and the orchestra seemed to many to be entering into a golden age. In fact, for lack of any serious competition in the 1920s, the LSO allowed its standards of playing to slip. In 1927 the Berlin Philharmonic, under Furtwängler, gave two concerts at the Queen's Hall. These, and later concerts by the same orchestra in 1928 and 1929, made obvious the poor standards then prevailing in London.<ref>Kennedy, p. 138</ref> Both the [[BBC]] and Beecham had ambitions to bring London's orchestral standards up to those of Berlin. After an early attempt at co-operation between the BBC and Beecham, they went their separate ways. In 1929 the BBC began recruiting for the new [[BBC Symphony Orchestra]] under [[Adrian Boult]]. The prospect of joining a permanent, salaried orchestra was attractive enough to induce some LSO players to defect.<ref>Morrison, pp. 72–74</ref> The new orchestra immediately received enthusiastic reviews that contrasted starkly with the severe press criticisms of the LSO's playing.<ref>Morrison, pp. 73–74</ref> According to the critic [[Walter J. Turner|W J Turner]] the LSO's problem was not that its playing had deteriorated, but that it had failed to keep up with the considerable improvements in playing achieved over the past two decades by the best European and American orchestras.<ref>Morrison, p. 64</ref><br />
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===1930s===<br />
In 1931, Beecham was approached by the rising young conductor [[Malcolm Sargent]] with a proposal to set up a permanent, salaried orchestra with a subsidy guaranteed by Sargent's patrons, the [[Samuel Courtauld (industrialist)|Courtauld]] family.<ref>Aldous, p. 68</ref> Originally Sargent and Beecham had in mind a reorganised version of the LSO, but the orchestra balked at weeding out and replacing underperforming players. In 1932 Beecham lost patience and agreed with Sargent to set up a new orchestra from scratch.<ref>Reid, p. 202</ref> The [[London Philharmonic Orchestra]] (LPO), as it was named, consisted of 106 players including a few young musicians straight from music college, many established players from provincial orchestras, and 17 of the LSO's leading members.<ref>Morrison, p. 79</ref> <br />
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[[File:W. Mengelberg.jpg|thumb|left|upright|Willem Mengelberg]]<br />
To try to raise its own standards, the LSO had engaged Mengelberg, a famous orchestral trainer, known as a perfectionist.<ref>Shore, pp. 111–113</ref> He made it a precondition that the deputy system must be abandoned, which occurred in 1929.<ref name=lso20s>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3281/1920s-and-1930s "1920s and 1930s"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 16 July 2012</ref> He conducted the orchestra for the 1930 season, and music critics commented on the improvement in the playing.<ref>Morrison, p. 66</ref> Nonetheless, as patently the third-best orchestra in London, the LSO lost work it had long been used to, including the Covent Garden seasons, the Royal Philharmonic Society concerts and the Courtauld-Sargent concerts.<ref>Morrison, pp. 66 and 82</ref> The orchestra persuaded [[Hamilton Harty|Sir Hamilton Harty]], the popular conductor of the Hallé Orchestra, to move from Manchester to become the LSO's principal conductor. Harty brought with him eight of the Hallé's leading players to replenish the LSO's ranks, depleted by defections to the BBC and Beecham.<ref>Morrison, p. 84</ref> Critics including [[Neville Cardus]] recognised the continued improvement in the LSO's playing: "On this evening's hearing the London Symphony Orchestra is likely, after all, to give its two rivals a gallant run. Under Sir Hamilton it will certainly take on a style of sincere expression, distinguished from the virtuoso brilliance cultivated by the B.B.C. Orchestra and the London Philharmonic Orchestra under Beecham."<ref>Cardus, Neville. "London Symphony Orchestra", ''The Manchester Guardian'', 8 November 1932, p. 5</ref> Among the milestones on the orchestra's path to recovery were the premieres of [[William Walton|Walton]]'s ''[[Belshazzar's Feast (Walton)|Belshazzar's Feast]]'' (1930) and [[Symphony No. 1 (Walton)|First Symphony]] (1934), showing the orchestra "capable of rising to the challenge of the most demanding contemporary scores" (Morrison).<ref>Morrison, p. 86</ref> <br />
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The foundation of the [[Glyndebourne Festival Opera|Glyndebourne Festival]] in 1934 was another good thing for the LSO, as its players made up nearly the entirety of the festival orchestra.<ref>Morrison, p. 83</ref> An important additional source of income for the orchestra was the film industry. In March 1935 the LSO recorded [[Arthur Bliss]]'s incidental music for [[Alexander Korda]]'s film ''[[Things to Come]]''. According to the LSO's website the recording took 14 full orchestral sessions and "started a veritable revolution in film production history.&nbsp;... For the first time, music for the cinema, previously regarded as a lowly art form, captured the attention of classical music scholars and enthusiasts, music critics and the film and music public. The LSO had begun its long historic journey as the premier film orchestra."<ref name=film>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3151/LSO-and-Film-Music "LSO and Film Music"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 16 July 2012</ref><br />
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In London Harty did not prove to be a box-office draw, and according to Morrison, he was "brutally and hurtfully" dropped in 1934, as his LSO predecessor Elgar had been in 1912.<ref>Morrison, p. 34</ref> After this the orchestra did not appoint a chief conductor for nearly 20 years.<ref>Morrison, p. 174</ref> By 1939 the orchestra's board was planning an ambitious programme for 1940, with guests including Bruno Walter, [[Leopold Stokowski]], [[Erich Kleiber]] and [[George Szell]].<ref>Morrison, p. 89</ref><br />
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===1940s and 50s===<br />
When the Second World War broke out the orchestra's plans had to be almost completely changed. During the First World War the public's appetite for concert-going diminished drastically, but from the start of the Second it was clear that there was a huge demand for live music.<ref>Morrison, pp. 53 and 89</ref> The LSO arranged a series of concerts conducted by Wood, with whom the orchestra was completely reconciled.<ref>Morrison, p. 90</ref> When the BBC evacuated its orchestra from London and abandoned [[the Proms]], the LSO took over for Wood.<ref name=m89>Jacobs, p. 348</ref> The Carnegie Trust, with the support of the British government, contracted the LSO to tour Britain, taking live music to towns where symphony concerts were hitherto unknown.<ref>Morrison, p. 91</ref><br />
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The orchestra's loss of manpower was far worse in the Second World War than in the First. Between 1914 and 1918 there were 33 members of the LSO away on active service; between 1939 and 1945 there were more than 60, of whom seven were killed.<ref>Morrison, pp. 53 and 92–93</ref> The orchestra found replacements wherever it could, including the bands of army regiments based in London, whose brass and woodwind players were unofficially recruited.<ref>Morrison pp. 92–93</ref><br />
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During the war it had become clear that private patronage was no longer a practical means of sustaining Britain's musical life; a state body, the Council for the Encouragement of Music and the Arts – the forerunner of the [[Arts Council of Great Britain|Arts Council]] – was established, and given a modest budget for public subsidy.<ref>Morrison, p. 96</ref> The council made it a condition of sponsoring the LSO that the profit-sharing principle should be abandoned and the players made salaried employees. This renunciation of the principles for which the LSO had been founded was rejected by the players, and the offered subsidy was declined.<ref>Morrison, p. 97</ref><br />
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[[File:Royal Festival Hall and Shot Tower c1959.jpg|thumb|right|The Royal Festival Hall: the LSO and LPO battled each other for residency in 1951]]<br />
At the end of the war the LSO had to face new competition. The BBC SO and the LPO had survived the war intact, the latter, abandoned by Beecham, as a self-governing body. All three were quickly overshadowed by two new orchestras: [[Walter Legge]]'s [[Philharmonia]] and Beecham's [[Royal Philharmonic Orchestra|Royal Philharmonic]] (RPO).<ref>Morrison, pp. 98–100</ref> To survive, the LSO played in hundreds of concerts of popular classics under undistinguished conductors. By 1948 the orchestra was anxious to resume promoting its own concert series.<ref name=m100>Morrison, p. 100</ref> The players decided to accept the Arts Council's conditions for subsidy, and changed the LSO's constitution to replace profit-sharing with salaries.<ref name=1940s/> With a view to raising its playing standards it engaged [[Josef Krips]] as conductor. His commitments in Vienna preventing him from becoming the LSO's chief conductor until 1950, but from his first concert with the orchestra in December 1948 he influenced the playing for the better.<ref name=m100/> His chosen repertoire was good for the box office: cycles of Beethoven symphonies and concertos (the latter featuring [[Wilhelm Kempff]] in one season and [[Claudio Arrau]] in another) helped restore the orchestra's finances as well as its musical standards.<ref>Morrison, pp. 101–102</ref> With Krips and others the orchestra recorded extensively for the [[Decca Records|Decca Record Company]] during the early 1950s.<ref name=decca/> The orchestra's workload in these years was second only to the other self-governing London orchestra, the LPO: the LPO played 248 concerts in the 1949–50 season; the LSO 103; the BBC SO 55; the Philharmonia and RPO 32 each.<ref>Hill, pp. 49–50</ref> When the [[Royal Festival Hall]] opened in 1951 the LSO and LPO engaged in a mutually bruising campaign for sole residency there. Neither was successful, and the Festival Hall became the main London venue for both orchestras and for the RPO and Philharmonia.<ref>Morrison, pp. 106–107</ref><br />
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Krips left the LSO in 1954,<ref>"Mr. Krips's Resignation from L.S.O.", ''The Times'', 24 June 1954, p. 6</ref> and the following year tensions between the orchestral principals and the rank-and-file players erupted into an irreconcilable dispute. The principals argued that the future of the LSO lay in profitable session work for film companies, rather than in the overcrowded field of London concerts. They also wished to be free to accept such engagements individually, absenting themselves from concerts if there were a clash of dates.<ref>Morrison, p. 109</ref> The LSO's board, which reflected the majority opinion of the players, refused to accommodate the principals, most of whom resigned ''en masse'', to form the [[Sinfonia of London]], a session ensemble that flourished from the mid-1950s to the early 60s, and then faded away.{{#tag:ref|Morrison comments that the LSO would probably also have faded away if it had gone down the same route. The Sinfonia of London was no longer extant by the time of the [[Alan T. Peacock|Peacock]] Committee's report on orchestral resources in Great Britain in 1970, where it is not mentioned in the lists of chamber or symphony orchestras. The Sinfonia's director, the flautist and former LSO chairman, Gordon Walker, died in 1965. The title "Sinfonia of London" was purchased from his heirs in 1982 for use by a new ensemble.<ref>Morrison, p. 109; Peacock, pp. 4–12; and "Mr. Gordon Walker", ''The Times'', 21 August 1965, p. 8</ref>|group= n}} For fifteen years after the split the LSO did little film work, recording only six soundtracks between 1956 and 1971, compared with more than 70 films between 1940 and 1955.<ref name=m280/><br />
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To replace the departing principals the LSO recruited rising young players including [[Hugh Maguire (violinist)|Hugh Maguire]], [[Neville Marriner]] and [[Simon Streatfeild]] in the string sections, [[Gervase de Peyer]] and [[William Waterhouse (bassoonist)|William Waterhouse]] in the woodwinds, and [[Barry Tuckwell]] and [[Dennis Wick]] in the brass. With the new intake the orchestra rapidly advanced in standards and status.<ref>Morrison, p. 110</ref> The average age of the LSO players dropped to about 30.<ref name=1940s>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3284/1940s-and-1950s "1940s and 1950s"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 8 July 2012</ref> In 1956 the orchestra visited South Africa to play at the Johannesburg Festival.<ref name=1940s/> The players were impressed by the dynamic director of the festival, [[Ernest Fleischmann]], and engaged him as general secretary of the orchestra when the post fell vacant in 1959.<ref>Morrison, pp. 32 and 258</ref> He was the LSO's first professional manager; all his predecessors as secretary/managing director had been orchestral players combining the duties with their orchestral playing.<ref name=conductors/><br />
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===1960s===<br />
To raise the profile and prestige of the orchestra, Fleischman strove to attract top soloists and conductors to work with the LSO. After Krips's resignation the orchestra had worked with a few leading conductors, including Klemperer, Stokowski, [[Jascha Horenstein]] and [[Pierre Monteux]], but also with many less eminent ones. Fleischmann later said, "It wasn't difficult to change the list of conductors that the orchestra worked with, because one couldn't do much worse, really".<ref>''Quoted" in Morrison, p. 133</ref>{{#tag:ref|Among those under whom the LSO played during the middle and late 1950s were little-known conductors such as Leighton Lucas, Alan J Kirby, Gaston Poulet, John Russell, Eugen Szenkar, Thornton Lofthouse, Foster Clark, Royalton Kisch, Thomas Scherman and Samuel Rosenheim.<ref>"Opera And Ballet", ''The Times'', 13 March 1954, p. 2 (Lucas); "Croydon Philharmonic Society", ''The Times'', 13 May 1954, p. 9 (Kirby); "London Symphony Orchestra", ''The Times'', 28 June 1954, p. 3 (Poulet); "Opera And Ballet", ''The Times'', 3 July 1954, p. 2 (Russell ); "Opera And Ballet", ''The Times'', 19 March 1955, p. 2 (Szenkar); "Opera And Ballet", ''The Times'', 18 June 1955, p. 2 (Lofthouse); "Opera And Ballet", ''The Times'', 9 February 1957, p. 2 (Clark); "Concerts", ''The Times'', 9 March 1957, p. 2 (Kisch); "Opera And Ballet", ''The Times'', 8 June 1957, p. 2 (Scherman); and "Opera And Ballet", ''The Times'', 5 September 1959, p. 2 (Rosenheim)</ref>|group= n}} A rising conductor of a younger generation, [[Georg Solti]], began working with the LSO; Fleischmann persuaded the management of the [[Vienna Festival]] to engage the LSO with Solti, Stokowski and Monteux for the 1961 Festwochen.<ref>Morrison, p. 136</ref> <br />
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[[File:Pierre Monteux, Conductor of the Ballets Russes (c1911-1914) - Gallica (cropped, BW).jpg|thumb|right|upright|Pierre Monteux]]<br />
While in Vienna, Fleischmann persuaded Monteux to accept the chief conductorship of the orchestra. Though 86 years old, Monteux asked for, and received, a 25-year contract with a 25-year option of renewal. He lived for another three years, working with the LSO to within weeks of his death.<ref>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3285/1960s-and-1970s "1960s and 1970s"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 15 July 2012; and "Opera Ballet and Concerts"], ''The Times'', 4 April 1964, p. 2</ref> Members of the LSO believed that in those few years he had transformed the orchestra; Neville Marriner said that Monteux "made them feel like an international orchestra&nbsp;... He gave them extended horizons and some of his achievements with the orchestra, both at home and abroad, gave them quite a different constitution."<ref>Tolansky, John. "Monteux in London", ''Classic Record Collector'', Autumn 2003, Number 34, pp. 16–19</ref> Announcing Monteux's appointment, Fleischmann added that the LSO would also work frequently with [[Antal Doráti]] and the young [[Colin Davis]].<ref>"Monteux for the L.S.O.", ''The Times'', 16 August 1961, p. 11</ref><br />
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Together with Tuckwell, chairman of the orchestra, Fleischmann worked to create the LSO Trust, a fund to finance tours and provide sick and holiday pay for LSO players, thus ending, as Morrison says, "nearly sixty years of 'no play, no pay'&nbsp;... this was a revolution."<ref>Morrison, p. 140</ref> They also pioneered formal sponsorship by commercial firms: the orchestra's "Peter Stuyvesant" concerts, underwritten by the tobacco company of that name, were given in London, [[Guildford]], [[Bournemouth]], [[Manchester]] and [[Swansea]].<ref>"L.S.O. To Visit Manchester", ''The Times'', 28 February 1964, p. 16</ref> The company also sponsored LSO commissions of new works by British composers.<ref>"Four To Write For L.S.O.", ''The Times'', 10 September 1964, p. 8</ref><br />
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In 1964 the LSO undertook its first world tour, taking in Israel, Turkey, Iran, India, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan and the United States. The following year [[István Kertész (conductor)|István Kertész]] was appointed principal conductor.<ref name=lso60s>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3285/1960s-and-1970s "1960s and 1970s"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 15 July 2012</ref> Negotiations with the Corporation of the City of London with a view to establishing the LSO as the resident orchestra of the planned [[Barbican Centre]] began in the same year.<ref name=lso60s/> In 1966 [[Leonard Bernstein]] conducted the LSO for the first time, in [[Gustav Mahler|Mahler]]'s ''[[Symphony No. 8 (Mahler)|Symphony of a Thousand]]'' at the [[Royal Albert Hall]]. This was another coup for Fleischmann, who had to overcome Bernstein's scorn for the inadequate rehearsal facilities endured by London orchestras.<ref>Morrison, p. 145</ref> Bernstein remained associated with the LSO for the rest of his life, and was its president from 1987 to 1990.<ref name=conductors>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3218/LSO-Principal-Conductors-and-Title-Holders "LSO Principal Conductors and Title Holders"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 16 July 2012</ref><br />
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Mindful of the enormous success of the [[Philharmonia Chorus]], founded in 1957 by Legge to work with his Philharmonia Orchestra, the LSO decided to establish its own chorus.<ref>Morrison, p. 181</ref> The [[London Symphony Chorus|LSO Chorus]] (later called the London Symphony Chorus) was formed in 1966 under [[John Alldis]] as chorus master.<ref name=lso60s/> Its early years were difficult; Kertész did not get on with Alldis, and there were difficulties within the chorus. Most of its members were amateurs, but at first they were reinforced by a small number of professionals. This led to disputes over the balance between amateurs and professionals.<ref name="Morrison 182">Morrison, p. 182</ref> There was a brief crisis, after which the professional element was removed, and the LSO chorus became, and remains, an outstanding amateur chorus.<ref name="Morrison 182"/><br />
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By 1967 many in the LSO felt that Fleischmann was seeking to exert too much influence on the affairs of the orchestra, and he resigned.<ref>Morrison, pp. 159–161</ref> Kertész, too, was dispensed with when he sought control of all artistic matters; his contract was not renewed when it expired in 1968.<ref>Morrison, pp. 164–165.</ref> His successor as principal conductor was [[André Previn]], who held the post for 11 years – at 2013 the longest tenure of the post to date.<ref name=lso60s/><br />
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By the Previn era the LSO was being described as the finest of the London orchestras.<ref>Coleman, Terry. "Orchestral life and hard times", ''The Guardian'', 21 July 1969, p. 6</ref> A reviewer of an Elgar recording by one of the other orchestras remarked, "these symphonies really deserve the LSO at its peak."<ref>Fiske, Roger. "Elgar Symphonies", ''The Gramophone'', October 1968, p. 52</ref> The implication that the LSO was not always at its peak was illustrated when Sir Adrian Boult, who was recording Elgar and Vaughan Williams with the LSO, refused to continue when he discovered that five leading principals had absented themselves. [[EMI]] took Boult's side, and the orchestra apologised.<ref>"A protest by Sir Adrian", ''The Guardian'', 6 August 1970, p. 1</ref><br />
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===1970s and 80s===<br />
In 1971 [[John Culshaw]] of BBC television commissioned "André Previn's Music Night", bringing classical music to a large new audience. Previn would talk informally direct to camera and then turn and conduct the LSO, whose members were dressed in casual sweaters or shirts rather than formal evening clothes.<ref name=m180/> The programme attracted unprecedented viewing figures for classical music;<ref name=culshaw>"Mr John Culshaw", ''The Times'', 29 April 1980, p. 16</ref> Morrison writes, "More British people heard the LSO play in ''Music Night'' in one week than in sixty-five years of LSO concerts."<ref name=m180>Morrison, p. 180</ref> Several series of the programme were screened between 1971 and 1977.<ref>"Broadcasting," ''The Times'', 25 May 1977, p. 31</ref> Previn's popularity with the public enabled him and the LSO to programme works that under other conductors could have been box-office disasters, such as [[Olivier Messiaen|Messiaen]]'s ''[[Turangalila]]'' Symphony.<ref>Camden, Anthony, ''quoted'' in Previn, p. 215</ref> In the early 1970s the LSO recorded two firsts for a British orchestra, appearing at the [[Salzburg Festival]], conducted by Previn, [[Seiji Ozawa]] and [[Karl Böhm]], in 1973, and playing at the [[Hollywood Bowl]] the following year.<ref name=lso60s/><br />
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[[File:The Henry Wood Hall (former Holy Trinity Church) - geograph.org.uk - 847582.jpg|thumb|left|Henry Wood Hall, acquired and converted by the LSO and the LPO in the 1970s]]<br />
The lack of good rehearsal facilities to which Bernstein had objected was addressed in the 1970s when, jointly with the LPO, the LSO acquired and restored a disused church in [[Southwark]], converting it into the Henry Wood Hall, a convenient and acoustically excellent rehearsal space and recording studio, opened in 1975.<ref>[[William Mann (critic)|Mann, William]]. "The making of a rehearsal hall", ''The Times'', 17 June 1975, p. 11</ref><br />
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In 1978 two aspects of the LSO's non-symphonic work were recognised. The orchestra shared in three [[Grammy]] awards for the score to ''[[Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope|Star Wars]]''; and the LSO [[Classic Rock (The London Sympony Orchestra recording series)|Classic Rock]] recordings, in the words of the orchestra's website, became hugely popular and provided handsome royalties.<ref name=lso60s/> The recordings led to "Classic Rock" tours by the orchestra, characterised by Morrison as "enormously lucrative but artistically demeaning."<ref>Morrison, p. 184</ref><br />
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[[Claudio Abbado]], principal guest conductor since 1971, succeeded Previn as chief conductor in the orchestra's diamond jubilee year, 1979.<ref>Huckerby, Martin "Claudio Abbado to be LSO conductor", ''The Times'', 20 October 1977, p. 19</ref> In a 1988 study of the LSO in ''[[Gramophone (magazine)|Gramophone]]'' magazine James Jolly wrote that Abbado was in many ways the antithesis of Previn in terms of style and repertoire, bringing to the orchestra a particular authority in the Austro-German classics as well as a commitment to the avant-garde.<ref name=jolly/> From the orchestra's point of view there were disadvantages to his appointment. His relationship with the players was distant and he was unable to impose discipline on the orchestra in rehearsals. He insisted on conducting without a score, and many times this led to barely-avoided disaster in concerts.<ref>Morrison, p. 122</ref> Abbado had considerable international prestige, but this too had its downside for the LSO: he frequently made his major recordings with the Boston or [[Chicago Symphony Orchestra|Chicago]] Symphony Orchestras or the [[Vienna Philharmonic]]. One of the LSO's principals commented, "Although we were sweating our guts playing those vast Mahler symphonies for&nbsp;... Abbado, he would go and record them with other orchestras, which made us feel like second, maybe even third choice".<ref>Murphy, Maurice, ''The Sunday Times'' magazine, 17 July 1988, ''quoted'' by Jolly.</ref><br />
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In 1982 the LSO took up residence at the Barbican. In the first years of the residency the orchestra came close to financial disaster, primarily because of over-ambitious programming and the poor ticket sales that resulted.<ref>Shakespeare, Nicholas. "The maze ends at the box office", ''The Times'', 2 March 1985, p. 7</ref> ''The Times'' commented that the LSO "were tempted by their own need for challenge (and a siren chorus of critics) to begin a series of more modern and adventurous music: six nights a week of [[Michael Tippett|Tippett]], [[Hector Berlioz|Berlioz]], [[Anton Webern|Webern]], [[Karlheinz Stockhausen|Stockhausen]] designed to draw in a new public. Instead it put an old audience to flight."<ref name=james>James, Brian. "The orchestra that opened up", ''The Times'', 28 February 1987, p. 37</ref> The LSO's difficulties were compounded by the satirical magazine ''[[Private Eye]]'', which ran a series of defamatory articles about the orchestra. The articles were almost wholly untrue and the magazine was forced to pay substantial libel damages, but in the short term serious damage was done to the orchestra's reputation and morale.<ref name=james/><br />
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[[File:Leonard Bernstein by Jack Mitchell.jpg|thumb|right|upright|Leonard Bernstein]]<br />
In August 1984 the orchestra's managing director, [[Peter Hemmings]], resigned. For the first time since 1949 the orchestra appointed one of its players to the position.{{#tag:ref|The last internal appointee to the post had been the woodwind player John Cruft who held it from 1949 to 1959. Since then the post had been held by Fleischmann, Harold Lawrence (1968–73), John Boyden (1974–75), Michael Kaye (1975–79) and Hemmings (1980–84), whose backgrounds were in administration and management.<ref name=conductors/>|group= n}} [[Clive Gillinson]], a cellist, took over at a bad time in the LSO's fortunes, and played a central role in turning them round. He negotiated what Morrison calls "a dazzling series of mega-projects, each built around the personal enthusiasm of a 'star' conductor or soloist", producing sell-out houses.<ref>Morrison, p. 210</ref> In 1985 the orchestra mounted "Mahler, Vienna and the Twentieth Century", planned by Abbado, followed the next year by an equally successful Bernstein festival.<ref name=lso80s>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3286/1980s-and-1990s "1980s and 1990s"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 16 July 2012</ref><br />
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During 1988 the orchestra adopted an education policy which included the establishment of "LSO Discovery", offering "people of all ages, from babies through music students to adults, an opportunity to get involved in music-making".<ref name=discovery>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3/LSO-Discovery "LSO Discovery"] London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 16 July 2012</ref> The programme was still in place in 2012, benefiting more than 60,000 people every year.<ref name=discovery/> In September 1988 [[Michael Tilson Thomas]] succeeded Abbado as chief conductor.<ref>Bowen, Meirion. "Licensed to discover: Michael Tilson Thomas's fresh approach could liven up the LSO", ''[[The Guardian]]'', 19 June 1987, p. 16; and Griffiths, Paul. "Brave start", ''The Times'', 16 September 1988, p. 18</ref> <br />
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In 1989 the Royal Philharmonic Society established its Orchestra Award for "excellence in playing and playing standards"; the LSO was the first winner.<ref name=lso80s/><br />
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===1990s to 2010s===<br />
The LSO visited Japan in 1990 with Bernstein and Tilson Thomas. The conductors and players took part in the inaugural Pacific Music Festival in [[Sapporo]], teaching and giving masterclasses for 123 young musicians from 18 countries.<ref>[http://www.pmf.or.jp/en/about/history/ "History and photos"], Pacific Music Festival, accessed 17 July 2012</ref> [[Colin Matthews]] was appointed as the orchestra's associate composer in 1991, and the following year Richard McNicol became LSO Discovery's first music [[wikt: animateur|animateur]].<ref name=lso80s/> Gillison secured increased funding from the Arts Council, the [[City of London Corporation]] and commercial sponsors, enabling the orchestra to set up a system of joint principals, attracting top musicians who could play in the LSO without having to give up their solo or chamber careers.<ref>Morrison, p. 211.</ref><br />
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In 1993 the LSO again featured in a British television series, playing in ''Concerto!'' with Tilson Thomas and [[Dudley Moore]]. Among those appearing were [[Alicia de Larrocha]], [[James Galway]], [[Steven Isserlis]], [[Barry Douglas (musician)|Barry Douglas]], [[Richard Stoltzman]] and [[Kyoko Takezawa]].<ref name=eg>Greenfield, Edward. "Concert season", ''The Guardian'', 14 August 1993, p. 22</ref> The series received an [[Emmy Award]].<ref name=lso80s/> In 1994 the orchestra and the [[Royal Shakespeare Company]] (RSC), resident at the Barbican Theatre, came under threat from a new managing director of the Barbican Centre, Baroness [[Detta O'Cathain, Baroness O'Cathain|O'Cathain]], an economist with no cultural background. O'Cathain, described by Morrison as "a Thatcherite free marketeer", dismissed the LSO and RSC as "arty-farty types", and opposed public subsidy.<ref name=m219/> Such was the press and public reaction that she was obliged to seek a vote of confidence from the LSO and RSC; failing to gain it, she resigned, and was succeeded by [[John Tusa]], whom Morrison calls "steeped in culture." The danger that the concert hall would become a conference centre was averted.<ref name=m219>Morrison, pp. 219–220.</ref> <br />
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[[File:Sir Colin Davis.jpg|thumb|left|upright|Sir Colin Davis]]<br />
In 1995 Sir Colin Davis was appointed chief conductor. He had first conducted the LSO in 1959, and had been widely expected to succeed Monteux as principal conductor in 1964.<ref>Morrison, pp. 146–147</ref> Among the most conspicuous of Davis's projects with the orchestra was the LSO's most ambitious festival thus far, the "Berlioz Odyssey", in which all Berlioz's major works were given.<ref name=lso80s/> The festival continued into 2000. Many of the performances, including ''[[Les Troyens]]'', were recorded for the orchestra's new CD label, LSO Live, launched in 2000.<ref name=lso80s/><ref name=lso00s>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3287/200s-and-201s "2000s and 2010s"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 22 July 2012</ref> ''Les Troyens'' won two [[Grammy]] awards.<ref name=lso00s/><br />
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In 2003, with backing from the banking firm UBS, the orchestra opened LSO St Luke's, its music education centre, in a former church near the Barbican. The following year the orchestra celebrated its centenary, with a gala concert attended by the LSO's Patron, [[Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom|the Queen]]. After serving as managing director for 21 years, Clive Gillinson left to become chief executive of [[Carnegie Hall]], New York. His successor was Kathryn McDowell.<ref name=lso00s/><br />
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During the second half of the decade major changes were made to the conductorship of the orchestra. In 2006 [[Daniel Harding]] joined Michael Tilson Thomas as principal guest, and the following year Davis retired as chief conductor and was appointed president of the orchestra, its first since the death of Bernstein in 1990. Davis was succeeded as chief conductor by [[Valery Gergiev]].<ref name=lso00s/> In Gergiev's first season in charge, a complete cycle of Mahler Symphonies was given, with the Barbican Hall sold out for every concert.<ref name=lso00s/> In 2009 Davis and the LSO celebrated 50 years of working together. In the same year the LSO took over from the Berlin Philharmonic as the resident orchestra at the Aix-en-Provence Festival, adding to a roster of international residences at venues including the [[Lincoln Center]] in New York, the [[Salle Pleyel]] in Paris and the [[Daytona Beach]] International Festival in [[Florida]].<ref>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3139/Residencies "Residencies"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 22 July 2012</ref> In 2010 the LSO visited Poland and Abu Dhabi for the first time, and made its first return to India since the 1964 world tour.<ref name=lso00s/> The orchestra played at the [[2012 Summer Olympics opening ceremony]], conducted by [[Sir Simon Rattle]].<ref>Rayner Gordon. [http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:UKNB:DSTC&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=1405DE3A3B47B478&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated5&req_dat=102CDD40F14C6BDA "Parachuting in, the Queen and 007"], ''The Daily Telegraph'', 28 2012</ref><br />
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==Reputation==<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''', [[Arnaud Courlet de Vregille]] <br /><br />
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In a 1988 ''Gramophone'' article James Jolly said of the LSO: <br />
<blockquote>Some would claim&nbsp;... that it is the most American of our orchestras, thinking no doubt of the Previn legacy, Bernstein's Presidency and Tilson Thomas's appointment. Others, looking back further to Pierre Monteux's reign, think it our most French orchestra, a quality nurtured by Previn and latterly Claudio Abbado. But what of their essaying of the Slavonic repertoire under Istvan Kertész, or of Mahler, whose idiom has been finely honed by Abbado? No, the LSO remains enigmatic, unpredictable and supremely individual. Of all the London orchestras the LSO seems to have more "personalities", more "individuals" and has given the solo world more than its fair share of "star" performers. As an orchestra the LSO has never been prepared to submit to one principal conductor for long (one thinks of Karajan in Berlin, Haitink in Amsterdam or Mravinsky in Leningrad){{#tag:ref|[[Herbert von Karajan]] was chief conductor of the Berlin Philharmonic from 1954 to 1989; [[Bernard Haitink]] was chief conductor of the [[Concertgebouw Orchestra]], Amsterdam from 1961 to 1988; [[Evgeny Mravinsky]] was chief conductor of the [[Leningrad Philharmonic]] from 1938 to 1988.<ref>Brunner, Gerhard. [http://www.oxfordmusiconline.com/subscriber/article/grove/music/14696 "Karajan, Herbert von"]; Goodwin, Noël. [http://www.oxfordmusiconline.com/subscriber/article/grove/music/12190 "Haitink, Bernard"]; and Bowen, José. [http://www.oxfordmusiconline.com/subscriber/article/grove/music/19278 "Mravinsky, Evgeny"]; all in ''Grove Music Online'', Oxford Music Online, accessed 17 July 2012 {{subscription}}</ref>|group= n}} but one of its greatest strengths remains its ability to attract fine conductors and dedicate itself wholeheartedly to creating a genuine performance.<ref name=jolly/></blockquote/> <br />
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For many years the LSO had a reputation as an almost exclusively male ensemble (women harpists excepted). Morrison describes the LSO of the 1960s and 70s as "a rambunctious boys' club that swaggered round the globe."<ref>Morrison, p. 251</ref> Before the 1970s one of the few women to play in the orchestra was the oboist [[Evelyn Barbirolli|Evelyn Rothwell]], who joined in the 1930s and found herself regarded as an outsider by her male colleagues.<ref>Morrison, pp. 186–187</ref> She was not admitted to full membership of the orchestra: the first woman to be elected as a member of the LSO was Renata Scheffel-Stein in 1975.<ref>Greenfield, Edward. "Orchestra strives", ''The Guardian'', 8 August 1975, p. 8</ref> By that time other British orchestras had left the LSO far behind in this regard.{{#tag:ref|In 1971 the BBC SO had 16 women players, the LPO and Philharmonia (by then known as the New Philharmonia) 12 each. The proportion of female players was considerably higher in the main regional orchestras.<ref>Ford, Christopher. "The eternal triangle: Men, women, and the orchestras", ''The Guardian'', 28 May 1971, p. 9</ref>|group= n}} <br />
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By the time of its centenary about 20 per cent of the LSO's members were women. Some musicians, including Davis, judged that this improved the orchestra's playing as well as its behaviour.<ref name=m187>Morrison, p. 187</ref> Others, including Previn and the veteran principal trumpet Maurice Murphy, felt that although the technical standard of playing had improved, the diminution of the orchestra's machismo was a matter for regret.<ref name=m187/> Comparing the LSO of 2004 with the orchestra of the 1960s and 70s, Murphy said, "Now the strings have improved so much, the playing is fantastic, but it has lost something of its gung-ho quality."<ref>''Quoted'' in Morrison, p. 187</ref> The orchestra of the 1960s had a reputation for tormenting conductors it disliked; even such notorious martinets as [[George Szell]] were given a hard time.<ref>Morrison, p. 123</ref> By the 21st century the orchestra had long abandoned such aggression; civilities were maintained even with conductors whom the orchestra took against: they were simply never re-engaged.<ref>Morrison, p. 124</ref><br />
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==Recordings and films==<br />
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===Audio recordings===<br />
[[File:London Barbican Hall LSO Haitink.jpg|thumb|right|350px|The LSO at the Barbican, 2011. Front, left to right, Roman Simović, Carmine Lauri (violins), Alastair Blayden, Tim Hugh (cellos), [[Bernard Haitink]] (conductor), Gillianne Haddow, Edward Vanderspar (violas), Tom Norris, Evgeny Grach (violins). Players to the rear include [[David Pyatt]] (horn), [[Andrew Marriner]] (clarinet), Rachel Gough (bassoon)]]<br />
[[File:Jerry Goldsmith 1.jpg|thumb|right|350px|LSO concert of film music at the Barbican, 2003. Left to right: [[Gordan Nikolitch]] and Lennox Mackenzie (violins), [[Jerry Goldsmith]] (conductor), [[Paul Silverthorne]] (viola), Moray Welsh (cello)]]<br />
The LSO has made recordings since the early days of recording, beginning with acoustic versions under Nikisch of Beethoven's ''[[Egmont (Beethoven)|Egmont]]'' Overture, [[Carl Maria von Weber|Weber]]'s ''[[Oberon (opera)|Oberon]]'' Overture, and [[Franz Liszt|Liszt]]'s [[Hungarian Rhapsodies|Hungarian Rhapsody]] in F minor, followed soon after by the overtures to ''[[Der Freischütz]]'' and ''[[The Marriage of Figaro]]''. [[HMV Records|HMV]]'s [[Fred Gaisberg]], who supervised the sessions, wrote of "virtuoso playing which was unique at that time".<ref name=jolly>Jolly, James. "London Symphony Orchestra – A Profile"], ''Gramophone'', October 1988, p. 40</ref> Since then, according the orchestra's website, the LSO has made more recordings than any other orchestra,<ref>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3152/Recordings "Recordings"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 7 July 2012</ref> a claim endorsed by ''Gramophone'' magazine.<ref name=jolly/> In 1920 the LSO signed a three-year contract with the [[Columbia Graphophone Company]] and what Jolly calls "a magnificent series of recordings" followed. Under [[Felix Weingartner]] the orchestra recorded Mozart ([[Symphony No. 39 (Mozart)|Symphony No 39]]), Beethoven (the [[Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)|Fifth]], [[Symphony No. 7 (Beethoven)|Seventh]] and [[Symphony No. 8 (Beethoven)|Eighth]] Symphonies) and Brahms's [[Symphony No. 1 (Brahms)|First]].<ref name=jolly/> Other recordings from this period included the premiere recording of [[Gustav Holst|Holst]]'s ''[[The Planets]]'', conducted by the composer, and [[Richard Strauss]]'s ''[[Don Juan (Strauss)|Don Juan]]'', ''[[Ein Heldenleben]]'' and ''[[Tod und Verklärung]]'', likewise conducted by their composer.<ref name=jolly/><br />
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When Elgar recorded his major works for [[HMV Records|HMV]] in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the LSO was chosen for most of the recordings.{{#tag:ref|The LSO plays on the recordings of both Symphonies, the [[Violin Concerto (Elgar)|Violin Concerto]] (with Menuhin), the [[Cello Concerto (Elgar)|Cello Concerto]] (with [[Beatrice Harrison]]), ''[[Falstaff (Elgar)|Falstaff]]'', ''[[In the South (Alassio)|In the South]]'', and many of the lighter pieces including the ''[[Wand of Youth]]'' and ''[[Nursery Suite|Nursery]]'' suites.<ref>"The Elgar Edition: The Complete Electrical Recordings of Sir Edward Elgar", EMI Records, Catalogue number 5099909569423.</ref>|group= n}} The LSO's pre-war recordings for [[Decca Records|Decca]] include Hamilton Harty's version of Walton's First Symphony, of which ''Gramophone'' magazine said, "There are one or two moments where the LSO are audibly hanging on by the skin of their teeth, but these moments simply add to the ferocious impact of the music".<ref>''Gramophone'' December 1985, p. 76</ref> <br />
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In the 1950s and early 60s EMI generally made its British recordings with the [[Royal Philharmonic Orchestra|Royal Philharmonic]] and [[Philharmonia Orchestra|Philharmonia]] orchestras; the LSO's recordings were chiefly for Decca, including a [[Jean Sibelius|Sibelius]] symphony cycle with [[Anthony Collins (composer)|Anthony Collins]], French music under Monteux, early recordings by Solti, and a series of [[Benjamin Britten|Britten]]'s major works, conducted by the composer.<ref name=decca>Stuart, Philip. [http://www.charm.rhul.ac.uk/discography/decca.html ''Decca Classical, 1929–2009''], accessed 7 July 2012</ref> Of the later 1960s Jolly writes, "Istvan Kertész's three-year Principal Conductorship has left a treasure trove of memorable and extraordinarily resilient recordings – the [[Antonín Dvořák|Dvořák symphonies]] are still competitive&nbsp;... and his classic disc of [[Béla Bartók|Bartók]]'s ''[[Duke Bluebeard's Castle]]'' admirably demonstrates what a superb ensemble the LSO were under his baton."<ref name=jolly/><br />
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Since 2000, the LSO has published commercial CD recordings on its own label, LSO Live. Recordings are made live at the Barbican hall over several dates and are edited in post-production. Initially available on CD they have since been issued on [[Super Audio CD]] and also as downloads. LSO Live has published more than 70 recordings featuring conductors including Gergiev, Davis and [[Bernard Haitink]]. Gergiev's version of [[Serge Prokofiev|Prokofiev]]'s ''[[Romeo and Juliet (Prokofiev)|Romeo and Juliet]]'' was ''[[BBC Music Magazine]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Disc of the Year in 2011,<ref>[http://lso.co.uk/page/3495/Prokofiev-Romeo-and-Juliet-br-Disc-of-the-Year-2011 "Prokofiev Romeo and Juliet Disc of the Year 2011"], London Symphony Orchestra, accessed 7 July 2012</ref> and Davis's discs of [[Hector Berlioz|Berlioz]]'s ''[[Symphonie Fantastique]]'' and ''[[Les Troyens]]'' and [[Antonín Dvořák|Dvořák]]'s [[Symphony No. 8 (Dvořák)|Eighth Symphony]] were [[BBC Radio 3]]'s top recommendations in comparative reviews of all available versions.<ref>[http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/radio3/classical/cdreview/bal1011.pdf "Building a Library"], BBC Radio 3, accessed 7 July 2012</ref><br />
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===Films===<br />
{{Main|London Symphony Orchestra filmography}}<br />
Even in the era of silent films the LSO was associated with the cinema. During the 1920s the orchestra played scores arranged and conducted by [[Eugene Aynsley Goossens|Eugene Goossens]] to accompany screenings of ''The Three Musketeers'' (1922), ''The Nibelungs'' (1924), ''The Constant Nymph'' (1927) and ''The Life of Beethoven'' (1929).<ref name=m277/><br />
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Since 1935 the LSO has recorded the musical scores of more than 200 films.<ref name=m277>Morrison, pp. 277–283</ref> The orchestra owed its engagement for its first soundtrack sessions to [[Muir Mathieson]], musical director of Korda Studios. On the LSO's website, the film specialist Robert Rider calls Mathieson "the most important single figure in the early history of British film music, who enlisted [[Arthur Bliss|Bliss]] to write a score for ''Things to Come'', and who was subsequently responsible for bringing the most eminent British 20th-century composers to work for cinema."<ref name=film/> Mathieson described the LSO as "the perfect film orchestra". Among the composers commissioned by Mathieson for LSO soundtracks were [[Ralph Vaughan Williams|Vaughan Williams]], [[William Walton|Walton]], [[Benjamin Britten|Britten]] and [[Malcolm Arnold]] and lighter composers including [[Eric Coates]] and [[Noël Coward]].<ref>Morrison, pp. 277–279</ref><br />
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As a pinnacle of Mathieson's collaboration with the LSO, Rider cites the 1946 film ''Instruments of the Orchestra'', a film record of the LSO at work. Sargent conducted the orchestra in a performance of Britten's ''[[The Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra]]'', composed for the film. Rider adds, "Mathieson's documentary, with its close-ups of the musicians and their instruments, beautifully captures the vibrancy and texture of the Orchestra amidst the optimism of the post-Second World War era."<ref name=film/> <br />
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Another milestone in the LSO's history in film music was in 1977 with the recording of [[John Williams]]'s score for the first of the six ''[[Star Wars]]'' films. Rider comments that this film and its sequels "attracted a new group of admirers and consolidated the period of film music activity for the Orchestra, which continues unabated to this day".<ref name=film/> The LSO also recorded other Williams film scores, including ''Superman'' (1978) and ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark]]'' (1981).<ref name=m280>Morrison, p. 280</ref><br />
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*{{cite book | last=Aldous| first=Richard| title=Tunes of Glory: The Life of Malcolm Sargent | location=London |publisher=Hutchinson |year=2001| isbn=0-09-180131-1}}<br />
*{{cite book | last= Hill| first=Ralph|title=Music 1951| location=Harmondsworth| publisher= Penguin Books | year=1951|oclc=26147349}}<br />
*{{cite book | last=Jacobs | first=Arthur | title=Henry J. Wood: Maker of the Proms | location=London | publisher=Methuen | year=1994 | isbn=0-413-69340-6}}<br />
*{{cite book | last=Kennedy | first=Michael | title=Adrian Boult | location=London | publisher=Hamish Hamilton | year=1987 | isbn=0-333-48752-4}}<br />
*{{cite book | last=Morrison | first=Richard | title=Orchestra | location=London | publisher=Faber and Faber | year=2004 | isbn=0-571-21584-X}}<br />
*{{cite book | last=Peacock| first=Alan| title=A Report on Orchestral Resources in Great Britain | location=London | publisher=Arts Council of Great Britain| year=1970 | oclc=150610520}}<br />
*{{cite book | last=Previn | first=André (ed)|title=Orchestra | location=London | publisher=Macdonald and Jane's | year=1979 | isbn=0-354-04420-6}}<br />
*{{cite book | last=Reid | first=Charles | title=Thomas Beecham&nbsp;– An Independent Biography | location=London | publisher=Victor Gollancz | year=1961|oclc=500565141}}<br />
*{{cite book | last= Shore| first=Bernard | title=The Orchestra Speaks| location=London | publisher= Longmans| year=1938 |oclc=499119110}}<br />
*{{cite book| last=Wood | first=Henry J | title=My Life of Music | location=London | publisher=Victor Gollancz | year=1938 | oclc=30533927}}<br />
* {{cite book | last= Stradling|first=Robert |coauthors= Meirion Hughes | year=2001| title= The English musical renaissance, 1840–1940: constructing a national music | location=Manchester| publisher= Manchester University Press | isbn= 0-7190-5829-5}}<br />
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*[[LSO St Luke's]]<br />
*[[Culture of London]]<br />
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| principal_conductor = [[Charles Dutoit]]<br />
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The '''Royal Philharmonic Orchestra''' ('''RPO'''), based in London, was formed by [[Thomas Beecham|Sir Thomas Beecham]] in 1946. In its early days the orchestra secured profitable recording contracts and important engagements including the [[Glyndebourne Festival Opera]] and the concerts of the [[Royal Philharmonic Society]]. After Beecham's death in 1961 the orchestra's fortunes declined steeply; it battled for survival until the mid-1960s, when its future was secured after an [[Arts Council of Great Britain|Arts Council]] report recommended that it should receive public subsidy. A further crisis arose when it seemed the orchestra's right to call itself "Royal" would be withdrawn.<br />
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Since Beecham's death the RPO has had seven chief conductors, including [[Rudolf Kempe]], [[Antal Doráti]], [[André Previn]] and [[Vladimir Ashkenazy]]; as of 2013 the incumbent is [[Charles Dutoit]]. Others closely associated with the orchestra have included [[Charles Groves|Sir Charles Groves]], [[Charles Mackerras|Sir Charles Mackerras]], [[Peter Maxwell Davies]], [[Yehudi Menuhin]] and [[Leopold Stokowski]].<br />
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In 2004 the orchestra acquired its first permanent London base, at the new [[Cadogan Hall]] in [[Chelsea, London|Chelsea]]. The RPO also gives concerts at the [[Royal Festival Hall]], the [[Royal Albert Hall]] and venues around the UK and other countries. From its earliest days the orchestra has been active in the recording studios, making film soundtracks and numerous gramophone recordings; many of the LP recordings conducted by Beecham and others have been reissued on compact disc.<br />
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==History==<br />
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===Origins===<br />
[[File:RPO-arms.jpg|thumb|Arms of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra]]<br />
In 1932 the conductor [[Thomas Beecham|Sir Thomas Beecham]] had founded the [[London Philharmonic Orchestra]] (LPO), which, with the backing of rich supporters, he ran until 1940, when finances dried up in wartime. Beecham left to conduct in Australia and then the US; the orchestra continued without him after reorganising itself as a self-governing body. On Beecham's return to England in September 1944 the LPO welcomed him back, and in October they gave a concert together that drew superlatives from the critics.<ref>[[William Glock|Glock, William]], "Music", ''[[The Observer]]'' 8 October 1944, p. 2; and "Sir T. Beecham's Return", ''The Times'', 9 October 1944, p. 8</ref> Over the next months Beecham and the orchestra gave further concerts with considerable success, but the LPO players, now their own employers, declined to give him the unfettered control he had exercised in the 1930s. If he were to become chief conductor again it would be as a paid employee of the orchestra.<ref>Reid (1961), p. 230</ref> Beecham responded, "I emphatically refuse to be wagged by any orchestra ... I am going to found one more great orchestra to round off my career."<ref name=reid231>Reid (1961), p. 231</ref> In 1945 he conducted the first concert of [[Walter Legge]]'s new [[Philharmonia Orchestra]], but was not disposed to accept a salaried position from Legge, his former assistant, any more than from his former players in the LPO.<ref name=reid231/>{{#tag:ref|Of the 75 players who constituted the LPO in 1944 only 18 had been in the LPO that Beecham left in 1940.<ref>Lucas, p.306</ref>|group= n}} His new orchestra to rival the Philharmonia would, he told Legge, be launched in "the most auspicious circumstances and ''éclat''".<ref>Osborne, p. 248</ref><br />
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In 1946 Beecham reached an agreement with the [[Royal Philharmonic Society]]: his new orchestra would replace the LPO at all the Society's concerts.<ref name=reid231/> He thus gained the right to name the new ensemble the "Royal Philharmonic Orchestra", an arrangement approved by [[George VI of the United Kingdom|George VI]].<ref>"Orchestra Refuse to Drop 'Royal' from Title, '' The Times'', 19 August 1964, p. 10</ref>{{#tag:ref|The Society had its own orchestra from its foundation in 1813 until 1932, when it agreed with Beecham that the new LPO would play at all its concerts.<ref>Three Orchestras", ''The Times'' 24 September 1932, p. 8; and "The Royal Philharmonic", ''The Manchester Guardian'', 21 August 1946, p. 3</ref> The new Royal Philharmonic Orchestra was granted the right to use the name when playing for the Society or at any other performance conducted by or under the artistic control of Beecham.<ref>[[George Baker (record singer)|Baker, George]]. "Royal Philharmonic Orchestra", ''The Times'', 4 July 1964, p. 9</ref>|group= n}} Beecham arranged with the [[Glyndebourne Festival Opera|Glyndebourne Festival]] that the RPO should be the resident orchestra at Glyndebourne seasons. He secured backing, including that of record companies in the US as well as Britain, with whom lucrative recording contracts were negotiated.<ref name=reid231/> The music critic Lyndon Jenkins writes:<br />
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===Beecham's orchestra===<br />
Beecham appointed [[Victor Olof]] as his orchestral manager, and they started recruiting. At the top of their list were leading musicians with whom Beecham had worked before the war. Four had been founder members of the LPO fifteen years previously: [[Reginald Kell]] (clarinet), [[Gerald Jackson]] (flute), James Bradshaw (timpani) and Jack Silvester (double-bass). From the current LPO they engaged the oboist Peter Newbury. Beecham persuaded the veteran bassoonist [[Archie Camden]], who had been pursuing a solo career, to return to orchestral work. The cellos were led by Raymond Clark, enlisted from the [[BBC Symphony Orchestra]]. The principal horn player was [[Dennis Brain]], who already held the same post in Legge's Philharmonia, but managed to play for both orchestras.<ref name=j99/> Jenkins speculates that as Beecham knew all Britain's orchestral [[Concertmaster|leaders]] at first hand he decided not to try to lure any of them away. His choice was John Pennington, who had been first violin of the [[London String Quartet]] from 1927 to 1934, and had then had a career in the US as concertmaster, successively, of the [[San Francisco Symphony]], [[Los Angeles Philharmonic]] and [[Paramount Pictures]] orchestras.<ref name=j99>Jenkins (2005), pp. 99–100</ref><ref>Lucas, p. 317</ref><br />
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On 11 September 1946 the Royal Philharmonic assembled for its first rehearsal.<ref name=j99/> Four days later it gave its first concert, at the Davis Theatre, [[Croydon]].<ref>"Sir Thomas Beecham's New Orchestra", ''The Times'', 12 September 1946, p. 6</ref> Beecham telegraphed a colleague, "Press virtually unanimous in praise of orchestra. First Croydon concert huge success".<ref>Cardus et al, p 4</ref> Beecham and the orchestra played a series of out-of-town engagements before venturing a first London concert on 26 October. ''[[The Times]]'' then spoke of "a hall filled with golden tone which enveloped the listener".<ref>"Delius Festival", ''The Times'', 28 October 1946, p. 6</ref> Before its London debut the orchestra made its first recording, and within two years had made more than 100.<ref name=potts8/><br />
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Within a few months Pennington was forced to resign when the British [[Musicians' Union (UK)|Musicians' Union]] discovered that he was not one of its members.<ref>Lucas, p. 319</ref>{{#tag:ref|At the time, union membership was compulsory for players in British orchestras.<ref>Orchestral Politics", ''The Times'', 26 August 1949, p. 8</ref>|group= n}} He was succeeded by his deputy Oscar Lampe, "a man who eschewed most social graces but played the violin divinely", according to Jenkins.<ref>Jenkins (2005), p. 100</ref> In the early days the orchestra comprised 72 players all on yearly contract to Beecham, giving him first call on their services, subject to reasonable notice, but not otherwise restricting their freedom to play for other ensembles.<ref name=potts8>Potts, p. 8</ref> A review of the London orchestral scene of the late 1940s said of the RPO and its main rival: "The Philharmonia and Royal Philharmonic share a very serious disability: that neither is a permanently constituted orchestra. Both assemble and disperse more or less at random&nbsp;... there is no style which is distinctively RPO or Philharmonia."<ref>Hill, p. 214</ref><br />
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Brain continued to play first horn for both orchestras; otherwise, from the early 1950s, there was generally more stability of orchestral personnel. In particular the RPO became celebrated for its regular team of woodwind principals, in which Jackson was joined by [[Jack Brymer]] (clarinet), [[Gwydion Brooke]] (bassoon) and [[Terence MacDonagh]] (oboe).<ref>Jenkins (2000), p. 5</ref> ''[[The Independent]]'' described them as "arguably the finest ever wind section ... [they] became known as 'The Royal Family'."<ref>Melville-Mason, Graham. [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/gwydion-brooke-6148964.html "Gwydion Brooke – Bassoonist in Sir Thomas Beecham's 'Royal Family'"], ''The Independent'', 5 April 2005</ref>{{#tag:ref|Jackson left the orchestra in 1958, and was succeeded by [[Geoffrey Gilbert]], whom ''The Times'' called "the most influential British flautist of the twentieth century". The quartet of woodwind soloists continued to be generally known as "the Royal Family"<ref>"Geoffrey Gilbert", ''The Times'', 22 May 1989, p. 20</ref>|group= n}}<br />
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The RPO toured the United States in 1950, the first British orchestra to visit America since the [[London Symphony Orchestra]] (LSO) in 1912. This was a long-cherished plan of Beecham's, who had been unable to take the LPO to the US in the 1930s. He arranged 52 concerts in 45 cities in 64 days. The tour was described by Brain's biographers Gamble and Lynch as a huge success.<ref name=gamble/> It began on 13 October in [[Hartford, Connecticut]], and finished on 15 December in [[Bethlehem, Pennsylvania]]. The concerto soloists were the pianist [[Betty Humby Beecham]] (the conductor's second wife) and orchestral principals: [[David McCallum, Sr.|David McCallum]] (violin), [[Anthony Pini]] (cello), and the four members of the "Royal Family".<ref name=gamble>Gamble and Lynch, p. 60</ref> In ''[[The New York Times]]'', [[Olin Downes]] wrote of "magnificent music-making by Sir Thomas Beecham and the Royal Philharmonic".<ref>Downes, Olin. [http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10B12F9395914728FDDAD0994DA415B8089F1D3 "Beecham Superb in Concert Here; Conducts Royal Philharmonic in Stirring Concert"], ''The New York Times'', 14 December 1950, p. 50 {{subscription}}</ref> The following year, assessing all the London orchestras, Frank Howes, music critic of ''The Times'', concluded that the RPO "comes nearest in quality and in consistency of style to the great international orchestras".<ref>Howes, Frank. "London Orchestras", ''The Times'', 8 June 1951, p. 6</ref><br />
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The orchestra's first appearance at the [[the Proms|Proms]] took place in August 1952, conducted by [[Basil Cameron]].<ref>Cardus et al, p. 4</ref> Beecham made his Proms debut two years later, conducting the RPO in a programme of music by [[Hector Berlioz|Berlioz]], [[Franz Schubert|Schubert]] and [[Jean Sibelius|Sibelius]]; ''The Times'' commented on "an evening of magnificent playing".<ref>"Promenade Concert – Sir Thomas Beecham's Début", ''The Times'', 6 September 1954, p. 9</ref> In 1957 Beecham and the RPO made a European tour, beginning at the [[Salle Pleyel]] in Paris and ending at the [[Musikverein]] in Vienna.<ref>Lucas, pp. 331–332</ref><br />
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Beecham conducted the RPO in his last concert, given at [[Portsmouth Guildhall]] on 7 May 1960. The programme, all characteristic choices, comprised the ''[[Magic Flute]]'' Overture, Haydn's [[Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)|''Military'' Symphony]], Beecham's own [[George Frideric Handel|Handel]] arrangement ''Love in Bath'', Schubert's [[Symphony No. 5 (Schubert)|Fifth Symphony]], ''On the River'' by [[Frederick Delius|Delius]], and the ''Bacchanale'' from [[Camille Saint-Saëns|Saint-Saëns]]'s ''[[Samson and Delilah (opera)|Samson and Delilah]]'', with Delius's ''Sleigh Ride'' as an encore.<ref>Lucas, p. 338</ref> Beecham suffered a heart attack the following month, from which he did not recover; he died in March 1961.<ref>Lucas, p. 339</ref><br />
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===1961–2000===<br />
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[[Rudolf Kempe]], who had been appointed associate conductor in 1960, became principal conductor in 1961 and music director in 1962.<ref>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/rpo_conductor.php?cid=17 "Rudolf Kempe"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 2 June 2013</ref> Beecham's widow{{#tag:ref|Shirley, ''née'' Hudson, Beecham's third wife, and former secretary, whom he married in 1959, a year after Betty Humby Beecham died.<ref>Reid (1961), p. 241</ref>|group= n}} ran the affairs of the orchestra as best she could, but some senior players including Brymer and MacDonagh were unhappy with the management, and they left.<ref name=lives/> The orchestra reorganised itself in 1963 as a self-governing limited company, but almost immediately encountered difficulties.<ref>Peacock, p. 9</ref> The Royal Philharmonic Society decided not to engage the RPO for its concerts; Glyndebourne booked the LPO instead of the RPO from 1964 onwards. The RPO was also excluded from the London Orchestral Concert Board's schedule of concerts, which meant that it was denied the use of London's main concert venue, the [[Royal Festival Hall]]. Kempe resigned, although he returned shortly afterwards. Helped by strong support from [[Malcolm Sargent|Sir Malcolm Sargent]], the orchestra successfully mounted its own concerts at a cinema in [[Swiss Cottage]], {{convert|3.5|mi}} to the north-west of the Festival Hall.<ref>Reid (1968), pp. 429–434</ref> A 1965 report to the [[Arts Council]] by a committee chaired by [[Alan T. Peacock|Alan Peacock]] recommended that all four independent London orchestras should receive adequate public subsidy.<ref name=c6>Cardus et al, p. 6</ref><br />
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The severance of the tie with the Royal Philharmonic Society in 1963 turned out to be temporary,{{#tag:ref|The RPS resumed its association with the orchestra from the 1966–67 season.<ref>Potts, p. 11</ref>|group= n}} but for three years it threatened to deprive the RPO of the "Royal" in its title. The matter was resolved in 1966, when on the advice of [[Roy Jenkins]], who as [[Home Secretary]] had responsibility for such matters, [[Elizabeth II|the Queen]] conferred the title unconditionally on the orchestra.<ref>"Orchestra Wins Royal Fight", ''The Times'', 16 July 1966, p. 12</ref><br />
[[File:Clifford-Curzon.jpg|thumb|upright|left|[[Clifford Curzon]], soloist at the RPO's Silver Jubilee concert]]<br />
The RPO celebrated its [[silver jubilee]] in 1971. On 15 September the orchestra returned to Croydon, where it had made its debut 25 years earlier. The theatre in which it had first played had been demolished, and the anniversary concert was therefore given at the [[Fairfield Halls]]. The programme consisted of the overture to ''[[The Marriage of Figaro]]'', [[Ludwig van Beethoven|Beethoven]]'s [[Piano Concerto No. 5 (Beethoven)|''Emperor'']] Concerto, and [[Gustav Holst|Holst]]'s ''[[The Planets]]''. [[Adrian Boult|Sir Adrian Boult]] conducted, and [[Clifford Curzon]] was the soloist.<ref>Cardus et al, pp. 12–13</ref> Five members of the original orchestra were still in the RPO for the jubilee concert: Leonard Brain (brother of Dennis), principal cor anglais; Lewis Pocock, co-principal timpani; Ernest Ineson, double bass; John Myers, viola; and Albert Pievsky, violin.<ref name=c6/><br />
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The RPO gave Kempe the title of "Conductor for Life" in 1970; he stepped down from the orchestra in 1975, the year before his death. He was succeeded as chief conductor by [[Antal Doráti]], who held the post from 1975 to 1978; as in his earlier spells with the LSO and BBC Symphony Orchestra, he was not greatly liked by his players, but raised their standard of playing and imposed discipline.<ref>"Great Orchestra's Predicament", ''The Times'', 28 June 1963, p. 18; and "Antal Dorati", ''The Times'', 16 November 1988, p. 18</ref><br />
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In 1984 there was a new threat to the orchestra: a review carried out on behalf of the Arts Council by the journalist [[William Rees-Mogg]] opined that England lacked "a great eastern symphony orchestra": the suggestion was that the RPO should move to [[Nottingham]]. Another Arts Council report of the same period recommended that the RPO should supplement the LSO as resident orchestra at the [[Barbican Centre]]; neither proposal came to fruition.<ref>Morrison, p 152</ref> During the 1980s the British government imposed strict constraints on public spending; to make up for lost revenue, the RPO, in common with the other self-governing London orchestras, was forced into increased reliance on business sponsorship as a primary source of funds. The ''[[Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians]]'', recording this, comments, "Such sponsorship is, however, subject to changing circumstances and thus less secure in the long term."<ref>Temperley, Nicholas, et al. [http://www.oxfordmusiconline.com/subscriber/article/grove/music/16904pg7 "London (i)]", Grove Music Online, Oxford University Press, accessed 8 June 2013 {{subscription}}</ref><br />
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Since 1993 the RPO has had a community and education programme, later given the title of "RPO Resound". It aims to increase "access to and engagement with world-class music-making."<ref name=about/> It has worked in venues including homeless shelters, hospices, youth clubs and prisons.<ref name=about>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/history.php "About the orchestra"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 4 June 2013</ref><br />
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===21st century===<br />
[[File:Cadogan Hall, Sloane Terrace, SW1 - geograph.org.uk - 1804955.jpg|thumb|upright|[[Cadogan Hall]], the RPO's home since 2004]]<br />
The orchestra gives an annual series of concerts at the Festival Hall, and since 2004 has had a permanent home at [[Cadogan Hall]], a former church in [[Chelsea, London|Chelsea]], converted into a 900-seat concert hall and rehearsal space.<ref>Binney, Marcus. [http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:UKNB:LTIB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=103CD83210A68E70&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated5&req_dat=102CDD40F14C6BDA "Music's coming home – royally"], ''The Times'' 12 July 2044</ref> At the [[Royal Albert Hall]] in London the RPO gives performances ranging from large-scale choral and orchestral works to evenings of popular classics.<ref name=about/><br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''', [[Arnaud Courlet de Vregille]] <br /><br />
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The orchestra maintains a regional touring programme, taking in venues throughout the UK, and has established residencies in [[Aylesbury]], [[Crawley]], Croydon, [[Dartford]], [[High Wycombe]], [[Ipswich]], [[Lowestoft]], [[Northampton]] and [[Reading, Berkshire|Reading]].<ref name=about/>{{#tag:ref|The number of towns and cities in which the RPO regularly plays is reflected in the sobriquet adopted in some of the orchestra's marketing: "The Nation's Favourite Orchestra".<ref>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/organisations.php "Support – Organisations"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 10 June 2013</ref>|group= n}} The RPO regularly tours overseas; since 2010 it has played in Azerbaijan, Canada, China, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, Spain and the US. In 2010–11 and two subsequent seasons the RPO was the resident orchestra for a series of concerts in [[Montreux]], Switzerland.<ref name=about/> In 2010 the orchestra toured England, with a repertoire preponderantly of Beethoven, including the [[Violin Concerto (Beethoven)|Violin Concerto]] in which [[Pinchas Zuckerman]] was both soloist and conductor.<ref>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/news_item.php?n_id=23 "Inaugural UK Tour for Pinchas Zukerman with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 8 June 2013</ref> In the same year, another tour featured [[Maxim Shostakovich]] conducting the music of his father, [[Dmitri Shostakovich]].<ref>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/news_item.php?n_id=21 " Shostakovich conducts Shostakovich with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 8 June 2013</ref> The RPO continues to feature at the Proms; in the 2010–12 Proms seasons the orchestra played works by [[Johann Sebastian Bach|Bach]], [[Aaron Copland|Copland]], Delius, Saint-Saëns, [[Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky|Tchaikovsky]], [[Arnold Bax|Bax]], [[Samuel Barber|Barber]], [[Béla Bartók|Bartók]] and [[Sergei Prokofiev|Prokofiev]].<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/archive/search/performers/royal-philharmonic-orchestra/4 "Royal Philharmonic Orchestra"] The Proms, BBC, accessed 8 June 2013</ref><br />
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The orchestra's community and education activities have continued into the 21st century. In May 2013 six youth ensembles from London boroughs and a 3,500-strong choir of children from local primary schools were given the chance to perform alongside members of the RPO at the Albert Hall. They played a piece composed by participants from all six musical ensembles.<ref>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/news_item.php?n_id=31 "Pass the Torch"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 8 June 2013</ref><br />
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==Players and conductors==<br />
Among the well-known musicians who have been RPO principals in the mid-1950s and later, string players include [[Steven Staryk]] (leader, 1957–59), [[Raymond Cohen]] (leader, 1959–66), [[Erich Gruenberg]] (leader, 1972–76), [[Jonathan Carney]] (leader, 1991–94) and [[Frederick Riddle]] (viola, 1953–77). Among the woodwind principals have been [[Geoffrey Gilbert]] (flute, 1957–61), [[James Galway]] (flute, 1967–69), [[Antony Pay]] (clarinet, 1968–78) and [[Michael Chapman (bassoonist)|Michael Chapman]] (bassoon, 1978–99). Principals in the brass section have included [[Alan Civil]] (horn, 1952–55), [[Philip Jones (musician)|Philip Jones]] (trumpet, 1956–60), [[Elgar Howarth]] (trumpet, 1963–69) and [[Martin Owen]] (horn, 1998–2008).<ref>Potts, pp. 13 and 19; [http://www.oxfordmusiconline.com/subscriber/search_results?size=100&search=quick&q=RPO&_start=1 "RPO"], Oxford University Press, accessed 8 June 2013 {{subscription}}; and [http://www.ram.ac.uk/find-people?pid=283 Martin Owen"], Royal Academy of Music, accessed 10 June 2013</ref><br />
[[File:RPO-conductors.jpg|thumb|left|Clockwise from top left: [[Yehudi Menuhin|Menuhin]], [[Charles Mackerras|Mackerras]], [[Charles Dutoit|Dutoit]] and [[Vladimir Ashkenazy|Ashkenazy]]]]<br />
Chief conductors since Dorati have been [[Walter Weller]] 1980–85, [[André Previn]] 1985–92, [[Vladimir Ashkenazy]] 1987–94, [[Yuri Temirkanov]] 1992–98 and [[Daniele Gatti]] 1996–2009.<ref name=past>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/rpo_past_conductors.php "Past conductors"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 2 June 2013</ref> In 2009 [[Charles Dutoit]] was appointed artistic director and principal conductor.<ref name=conductors>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/rpo_conductors.php "Conductors"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 2 June 2013</ref> From 1992 to 2000 [[Peter Maxwell Davies]] was associate conductor and composer to the RPO.<ref name=past/> Other conductors with close ties to the orchestra have included [[Charles Groves|Sir Charles Groves]], [[Vernon Handley]], [[Charles Mackerras|Sir Charles Mackerras]], [[Yehudi Menuhin]], [[Gennady Rozhdestvensky]] and [[Leopold Stokowski]].<ref name=golding/> [[Grzegorz Nowak (conductor)|Grzegorz Nowak]] was appointed principal associate conductor in 2008; the following year Pinchas Zukerman became the RPO's principal guest conductor.<ref name=conductors/><br />
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== Recordings ==<br />
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From the RPO's earliest days to the end of Beecham's life, they made numerous recordings for [[His Master's Voice]], [[Columbia Records|CBS]] and [[RCA Victor]]. Among the works they recorded EMI chose several to be reissued at the end of the twentieth century in its "Great Recordings of the Century" series. They included a Delius programme; a [[Edvard Grieg|Grieg]] programme; French ballet music; short works by [[Georges Bizet|Bizet]], [[Emmanuel Chabrier|Chabrier]], [[Gabriel Fauré|Fauré]] and Saint-Saëns; Tchaikovsky's [[Symphony No. 4 (Tchaikovsky)|Symphony No 4]] and ''[[The Nutcracker|Nutcracker]]'' Suite; Mozart's [[Symphony No. 41 (Mozart)|''Jupiter'']] Symphony, [[Clarinet Concerto (Mozart)|Clarinet Concerto]] (Brymer) and [[Bassoon Concerto (Mozart)|Bassoon Concerto]] (Brooke); and Schubert's [[Symphony No. 3 (Schubert)|3rd]], 5th and [[Symphony No. 6 (Schubert)|6th]] Symphonies.<ref>[http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/listPage.jsp;jsessionid=268CC5C50E2BB471E973F5875DE62D5C?&list_id=455&start_list=101 "EMI Great Recordings of the Century"], Archiv music, accessed 3 June 2013</ref><br />
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After Beecham's death the orchestra made many recordings for [[Decca Records|Decca]], sometimes under pseudonyms such as the "Beecham Symphony Orchestra", the "London Festival Orchestra" and the "Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra".<ref name=decca>Stuart, Philip. [http://images.cch.kcl.ac.uk/charm/liv/pubs/DeccaComplete.pdf ''Decca Classical 1929-2009''] accessed 4 June 2013</ref> Among the conductors with whom the RPO recorded in the 1960s were [[John Barbirolli|Sir John Barbirolli]], [[Fritz Reiner]], [[Charles Munch (conductor)|Charles Munch]], [[Georges Prêtre]], Kempe, Previn and Stokowski.<ref name=decca/> Soloists included [[Earl Wild]], [[Shura Cherkassky]], Alan Civil and [[Luciano Pavarotti]].<ref name=decca/><br />
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[[Igor Stravinsky]] recorded his opera ''[[The Rake's Progress]]'' with the RPO in 1964.<ref name=golding/> [[Colin Davis]] made some of his earliest recordings with the orchestra, including Mozart and [[Gioacchino Rossini|Rossini]] overtures, Beethoven's [[Symphony No. 7 (Beethoven)|Seventh Symphony]],<ref>Blyth, p. 52</ref> and Stravinsky's ''[[Oedipus rex (opera)|Oedipus rex]]''.<ref>[http://www.rpo.co.uk/reviews.php "Press reviews"], Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, accessed 3 June 2013.</ref> From 1964 to 1979 the RPO was engaged by Decca to record [[Gilbert and Sullivan]] operas with the [[D’Oyly Carte Opera Company]].<ref name=decca/> The orchestra has also recorded for [[Deutsche Grammophon]], [[Lyrita]], [[Philips Records|Philips]], [[Pye Records|Pye]] and [[Unicorn-Kanchana]].<ref name=decca/><ref>Cardus et al, pp. 22–23</ref><br />
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In 1986 the orchestra launched RPO Records, claimed to be "the world's first record label to be owned by a symphony orchestra".<ref name=golding>Golding and Beales, pp. 2–3</ref> Recordings available on the RPO label in 2013 ranged from core symphonic repertoire and Tchaikovsky ballet scores to film music by various composers, light music by [[Burt Bacharach]] and [[Richard Rodgers]], and an album called "Symphonic Rock", described as "Over 3 hours of classic rock anthems and pop tracks with an orchestral twist".<ref>[http://www.orchidclassics.com/rpo.htm "RPO Records"], Orchid Classics, accessed 4 June 2013.</ref><br />
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== Non-classical work ==<br />
As well as performing works from the classical repertoire, the RPO has recorded a number of film scores, including those for [[Michael Powell|Powell]] and [[Emeric Pressburger|Pressburger]]'s ''[[The Red Shoes (1948 film)|The Red Shoes]]'' and ''[[The Tales of Hoffmann (film)|The Tales of Hoffmann]]''. Other scores recorded by the RPO are [[Laurence Olivier|Olivier]]'s ''[[Richard III (1955 film)|Richard III]]'', ''[[The Bridge on the River Kwai]]'', and ''[[The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes]]''.<ref>Cardus et al, p. 17</ref><br />
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In 1987 the RPO established a sister ensemble, the Royal Philharmonic Concert Orchestra, which plays lighter classics. It succeeded a similar group, the Royal Philharmonic Pops Orchestra.<ref name=golding/><br />
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RPO players have been involved with many performances away from the classical repertory; in the 1960s they pioneered the "mixed media" concert, appearing with [[The Nice]] rock band.<ref>Cardus et al, p. 7</ref> Later non-classical ventures included ''[[Yanni Live at the Acropolis]]'', a concert held in Greece in 1993, conducted by [[Shahrdad Rohani]];<ref name="AllmusicAcropolis">Widran, Jonathan, [http://www.allmusic.com/album/live-at-the-acropolis-mw0000108919 "Yanni / Live at the Acropolis / review"] ([http://www.webcitation.org/69MWTU2e3 WebCite archive]), [[Allmusic]], 1994 or later.</ref> In 1992 [[UEFA]] commissioned the orchestra and the [[Academy of St Martin in the Fields]] chorus to record the [[UEFA Champions League Hymn]].<ref name=UEFAanthem>[http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/music/index.htm "UEFA Champions League anthem"], UEFA, accessed 13 July 2012</ref><br />
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==Notes and references==<br />
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* {{cite book | last= Blyth | first= Alan|authorlink=Alan Blyth|year= 1972| title= Colin Davis | location= London | publisher= Ian Allan | oclc=675416}}<br />
* {{cite book | last= Cardus| first=Neville|coauthors= et al |authorlink=Neville Cardus| year=1971 | title=25 Years of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra| location=London | publisher=Fabbri | oclc=22592704}}<br />
* {{cite book | last=Golding | first=Robin |coauthors=Brendan Beales| year=1994 | title=''Notes to'' Grieg Piano Concerto in A minor and Lyric pieces | location= London| publisher= Tring| oclc=36052553 }}<br />
* {{cite book | last=Hill | first=Ralph (ed) | coauthors= | title=Music 1951 | location=Harmondsworth, England | publisher=Penguin Books | year=1951 | oclc=26147349}}<br />
* {{cite book | last=Jenkins | first=Lyndon | year= 2000| title=''Notes to'' Bizet Symphony in C and L'Arlésienne Suites | location=London | publisher=EMI | oclc=271816594 }}<br />
* {{cite book | last=Jenkins | first=Lyndon | year=2005 | title=While Spring and Summer Sang: Thomas Beecham and the music of Frederick Delius | location=Aldershot | publisher=Ashgate | isbn= 0754607216 }}<br />
* {{cite book | last=Lucas| first=John|title=Thomas Beecham: An Obsession with Music | location=Woodbridge|publisher=Boydell Press | year=2008| isbn=9781843834021}}<br />
* {{cite book | last=Morrison| first=Richard| title=Orchestra| location=London | publisher=Faber| year=2004| isbn=057121584X}}<br />
* {{cite book|last= Osborne |first= Richard |year= 1998|title= Herbert von Karajan: A Life in Music |location= London |publisher= Chatto and Windus |isbn= 1856197638}}<br />
* {{cite book | last= Peacock|first=Alan (chairman)| title=Report on Orchestral Resources in Great Britain | location=London | publisher= Arts Council of Great Britain | year=1970 | isbn=011981062X }}<br />
* {{cite book | last= Potts| first=Joseph E | year=1967 | title=The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, 1946–67 | location=London | publisher=RPO | oclc= 9215763}}<br />
* {{cite book | last=Reid | first=Charles | title=Thomas Beecham: An Independent Biography | location=London | publisher=Victor Gollancz | year=1961|oclc=500565141}}<br />
* {{cite book | last=Reid | first=Charles | title=Malcolm Sargent: a biography | location=London | publisher=Hamish Hamilton | year=1968 | isbn=0800850807}}<br />
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'''Pierre Teilhard de Chardin''' [[Society of Jesus|SJ]] ({{IPA-fr|pjɛʁ tejaʁ də ʃaʁdɛ̃|lang}}; May 1, 1881&nbsp;– April 10, 1955) was a French philosopher and [[Society of Jesus|Jesuit]] [[Catholic priesthood|priest]] who trained as a [[Paleontology|paleontologist]] and [[Geology|geologist]] and took part in the discovery of [[Peking Man]]. Teilhard conceived the idea of the [[Omega Point]] (a maximum level of complexity and consciousness towards which he believed the universe was evolving) and developed [[Vladimir Vernadsky]]'s concept of [[Noosphere]].<br />
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Teilhard de Chardin has two comprehensive works. First, ''[[The Phenomenon of Man]]'', sets forth a sweeping account of the unfolding of the [[cosmos]] and the evolution of matter to humanity to ultimately a reunion with Christ. Following the leads of [[St. Ambrose]] and [[St. Augustine]], he abandoned literal interpretations of creation in the [[Book of Genesis]] in favor of allegorical and theological interpretations.<br />
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The second comprehensive work of Teilhard de Chardin is [http://www.teilhardforbeginners.com/divinemilieau.html ''The Divine Milieu''] which attempted to do two things. First, in the 19th and early 20th centuries there was a belief among some Catholics and other Christians that in order to be “holy” one had to devote himself or herself to purely religious activity and that secular work had no lasting value. Teilhard de Chardin, consistent with the Jesuit motto of “finding God in all things”, wanted to demonstrate that secular work (including his own scientific work) was an integral element of creation and the Incarnation, so that for religious reasons, Christians should be committed to whatever work they were doing and offering it up for the service of God. Teilhard wants to show how all human activities and efforts toward personal growth and human progress can be used to help the growth and development of the Body of Christ. Not only are human efforts useful in this regard, but they are also somehow necessary. Even though people perform these actions as ordinary human beings, and they look like ordinary human actions, they are simultaneously being transformed in the divine milieu and become actions done in, with, and through Christ.<br />
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Some of Teilhard de Chardin's ideas came into conflict with certain officials in the [[Roman Curia]] and in his own [[Jesuit]] order. Specifically, Teilhard's superiors thought that Teilhard's views on the doctrine of [[original sin#Original sin in Catholicism|original sin]] were contrary to Catholic doctrine. As a result, many of Teilhard's writings were prohibited from being published during his lifetime. Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi said in July 2009: “By now, no one would dream of saying that [Teilhard] is a heterodox author who shouldn’t be studied.”<ref>http://ncronline.org/news/pope-cites-teilhardian-vision-cosmos-living-host</ref><br />
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==Life==<br />
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===Early years===<br />
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin was born in the Château of Sarcenat at [[Orcines]], close to [[Clermont-Ferrand]], [[France]], on May 1, 1881. On the Teilhard side he is descended from an ancient family of magistrates from [[Auvergne (province)|Auvergne]] originating in [[Murat, Cantal]], and on the de Chardin side he is descended from a family that was ennobled under [[Louis XVIII]]. He was the fourth of eleven children. His father, Emmanuel Teilhard (1844–1932), an amateur [[naturalist]], collected stones, insects and plants and promoted the observation of nature in the household. Pierre Teilhard's [[spirituality]] was awakened by his mother, Berthe de Dompiere. When he was 12, he went to the [[Jesuit]] college of Mongré, in [[Villefranche-sur-Saône]], where he completed [[Baccalauréat|baccalaureates]] of [[philosophy]] and [[mathematics]]. Then, in 1899, he entered the Jesuit novitiate at [[Aix-en-Provence]] where he began a philosophical, theological and spiritual career.<br />
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As of the summer 1901, the [[Waldeck-Rousseau]] laws, which submitted congregational associations' properties to state control, prompted some of the Jesuits to exile themselves in the [[United Kingdom]]. Young Jesuit students continued their studies in [[Jersey]]. In the meantime, Teilhard earned a licentiate in literature in [[Caen]] in 1902.<br />
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===Academic career===<br />
From 1905 to 1908, he taught [[physics]] and [[chemistry]] in [[Cairo]], [[Egypt]], at the [[Jesuit]] College of the Holy Family. He wrote "...it is the dazzling of the East foreseen and drunk greedily... in its lights, its vegetation, its fauna and its deserts." (''Letters from Egypt'' (1905–1908)&nbsp;— ''Éditions Aubier'')<br />
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Teilhard studied theology in [[Hastings]], in [[Sussex]] (United Kingdom), from 1908 to 1912. There he synthesized his scientific, philosophical and theological knowledge in the light of [[evolution]]. His reading of ''[[Creative Evolution (book)|L'Évolution Créatrice]]'' (The Creative Evolution) by [[Henri Bergson]] was, he said, the "catalyst of a fire which devoured already its heart and its spirit." His views on evolution and religion particularly inspired the [[evolutionary biologist]] [[Theodosius Dobzhansky]]. Teilhard was [[ordained]] a [[priest]] on August 24, 1911, aged 30.<br />
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===Paleontology===<br />
From 1912 to 1914, Teilhard worked in the [[paleontology]] laboratory of the ''[[Musée National d'Histoire Naturelle]]'', in [[Paris]], studying the [[mammal]]s of the middle [[Tertiary]] period. Later he studied elsewhere in [[Europe]]. In June 1912 he formed part of the original digging team, with [[Arthur Smith Woodward]] and [[Charles Dawson]], to perform follow-up investigations at the [[Piltdown]] site, after the discovery of the first fragments of the (fraudulent) "[[Piltdown Man]]", with some even suggesting he participated in the hoax.<ref>[http://www.clarku.edu/~piltdown/map_prim_suspects/teilhard_de_chardin/Chardin_defend/teilhardandpilthoax(lukas).html "Teilhard and the Piltdown 'Hoax'"]</ref> Professor [[Marcellin Boule]] (specialist in [[Neanderthal]] studies), who so early as 1915 astutely recognised the non-[[hominid]] origins of the Piltdown finds, gradually guided Teilhard towards human paleontology. At the museum's Institute of Human Paleontology, he became a friend of [[Henri Breuil]] and took part with him, in 1913, in excavations in the prehistoric painted caves in the northwest of Spain, at the [[Cuevas de El Castillo|Cave of Castillo]].<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', [[Arnaud Courlet de Vregille]] (1975, ink of China and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
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===Service in World War I===<br />
Mobilised in December 1914, Teilhard served in [[World War I]] as a stretcher-bearer in the [[French colonial forces|8th Moroccan Rifles]]. For his [[valour]], he received several citations including the [[Médaille militaire]] and the [[Légion d'honneur|Legion of Honour]].<br />
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Throughout these years of war he developed his reflections in his diaries and in letters to his cousin, Marguerite Teillard-Chambon, who later edited them into a book: ''Genèse d'une pensée'' (''Genesis of a thought''). He confessed later: "...the war was a meeting ... with the Absolute." In 1916, he wrote his first essay: ''La Vie Cosmique'' (''Cosmic life''), where his scientific and philosophical thought was revealed just as his mystical life. He pronounced his solemn vows as a Jesuit in [[Sainte-Foy-lès-Lyon]], on May 26, 1918, during a leave. In August 1919, in [[Jersey]], he would write ''Puissance spirituelle de la Matière'' (''the spiritual Power of Matter''). The complete essays written between 1916 and 1919 are published under the following titles:<br />
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* ''Ecrits du temps de la Guerre'' (''Written in time of the War'') (TXII of complete Works)&nbsp;– ''Editions du Seuil''<br />
* ''Genèse d'une pensée'' (letters of 1914 to 1918)&nbsp;– ''Editions Grasset''<br />
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Teilhard followed at the [[University of Paris|Sorbonne]] three unit degrees of natural science: [[geology]], [[botany]] and [[zoology]]. His thesis treated of the mammals of the French lower [[Eocene]] and their [[stratigraphy]]. After 1920, he lectured in geology at the [[Catholic Institute of Paris]], then became an assistant professor after being granted a science doctorate in 1922.<br />
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===Research in China===<br />
In 1923 he traveled to [[China]] with Father [[Emile Licent]], who was in charge in [[Tianjin]] of a significant laboratory collaboration between the Natural History Museum in [[Paris]] and Marcellin Boule's laboratory. Licent carried out considerable basic work in connection with [[missionary|missionaries]] who accumulated observations of a scientific nature in their spare time. He was known as 德日進 (pinyin: Dérìjìn) in China.<br />
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Teilhard wrote several essays, including ''La Messe sur le Monde'' (the ''Mass on the World''), in the [[Ordos Desert]]. In the following year he continued lecturing at the Catholic Institute and participated in a cycle of conferences for the students of the Engineers' Schools. Two theological essays on [[Original Sin]] sent to a theologian at his request on a purely personal basis were wrongly understood.{{Citation needed|date=June 2008}}<br />
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* July 1920: ''Chute, Rédemption et Géocentrie'' (''Fall, Redemption and Geocentry'')<br />
* Spring 1922: ''Notes sur quelques représentations historiques possibles du Péché originel'' (''Notes on few possible historical representations of [[original sin]]'') (Works, Tome X)<br />
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The [[Catholic Church|Church]] required him to give up his lecturing at the Catholic Institute and to continue his geological research in China.<br />
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Teilhard traveled again to China in April 1926. He would remain there more or less twenty years, with many voyages throughout the world. He settled until 1932 in [[Tianjin|Tientsin]] with Emile Licent then in [[Beijing]]. From 1926 to 1935, Teilhard made five geological research expeditions in China. They enabled him to establish a general geological map of China.<br />
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In 1926 Teilhard’s superiors in the Jesuit Order forbade him to teach any longer. In 1926–1927 after a missed campaign in [[Gansu]], he traveled in the [[Sang-Kan-Ho]] valley near Kalgan ([[Zhangjiakou]]) and made a tour in Eastern [[Mongolia]]. He wrote ''Le Milieu Divin'' (''the divine Medium''). Teilhard prepared the first pages of his main work ''Le Phénomène humain'' (''The Human Phenomenon''). The Holy See refused the Imprimatur for ''Le Milieu Divin'' in 1927.<br />
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He joined the ongoing excavations of the [[Peking Man]] Site at [[Zhoukoudian]] as an advisor in 1926 and continued in the role for the [[Cenozoic Research Laboratory]] of the [[Geological Survey of China]] following its founding in 1928.<br />
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He resided in [[Manchuria]] with Emile Licent, then stayed in Western Shansi ([[Shanxi]]) and northern Shensi ([[Shaanxi]]) with the Chinese paleontologist [[Yang Zhongjian|C. C. Young]] and with [[Davidson Black]], Chairman of the [[Geological Survey of China]].<br />
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After a tour in Manchuria in the area of [[Great Khingan]] with Chinese geologists, Teilhard joined the team of American Expedition Center-Asia in the [[Gobi Desert]] organised in June and July, by the [[American Museum of Natural History]] with [[Roy Chapman Andrews]].<br />
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Henri Breuil and Teilhard discovered that the [[Peking Man]], the nearest relative of ''[[Pithecanthropus]]'' from [[Java (island)|Java]], was a ''faber'' (worker of stones and controller of fire). Teilhard wrote ''L'Esprit de la Terre'' (''the Spirit of the Earth'').<br />
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Teilhard took part as a scientist in the [[Croisiere Jaune]] (Yellow Cruise) financed by [[Andre Citroen]] in [[Central Asia]]. Northwest of Beijing in [[Zhangjiakou|Kalgan]], he joined the Chinese group who joined the second part of the team, the [[Pamir Mountains|Pamir]] group, in [[Aksu, Xinjiang|Aksu]]. He remained with his colleagues for several months in [[Urumqi]], capital of [[Xinjiang|Sinkiang]]. The following year the [[Second Sino-Japanese War|Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945)]] began.<br />
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In 1933, Rome ordered him to give up his post in Paris.<br />
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Teilhard undertook several explorations in the south of China. He traveled in the valleys of [[Yangtze River]] and [[Sichuan]] in 1934, then, the following year, in [[Kwang-If]] and [[Guangdong]]. The relationship with Marcellin Boule was disrupted; the museum cut its financing on the grounds that Teilhard worked more for the Chinese Geological Service than for the museum.{{Citation needed|date=June 2008}}<br />
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During all these years, Teilhard strongly contributed to the constitution of an international network of research in human paleontology related to the whole Eastern and south Eastern zone of the Asian continent. He would be particularly associated in this task with two friends, the English/Canadian Davidson Black and the [[Scot]] [[George B. Barbour]]. Many times he would visit [[France]] or the [[United States]] only to leave these countries to go on further expeditions.<br />
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===World travels===<br />
From 1927 to 1928 Teilhard stayed in France, based in Paris. He journeyed to [[Leuven]], [[Belgium]], to [[Cantal]], and to [[Ariège]], France. Between several articles in reviews, he met new people such as [[Paul Valéry]] and [[Bruno de Solages]], who were to help him in issues with the [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic Church]].<br />
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Answering an invitation from [[Henry de Monfreid]], Teilhard undertook a journey of two months in [[Obock]], in [[Harrar]] and in [[Somalia]] with his colleague [[Pierre Lamarre]], a geologist, before embarking in [[Djibouti]] to return to [[Tianjin]]. While in China, Teilhard developed a deep and personal friendship with [[Lucile Swan]].<ref name = "Aczel">{{cite book | last = Aczel| first = Amir | authorlink = Amir Aczel| coauthors = | title =The Jesuit and the Skull: Teilhard de Chardin, Evolution, and the Search for Peking Man | publisher = Riverhead Trade| date = 4 November 2008| location = | page = 320| isbn = 978-1-594489-56-3}}</ref><br />
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From 1930–1931 Teilhard stayed in France and in the United States. During a conference in Paris, Teilhard stated: "For the observers of the Future, the greatest event will be the sudden appearance of a collective humane [[conscience]] and a human work to make."<br />
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From 1932–1933 he began to meet people to clarify issues with the [[Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith]], regarding ''Le Milieu divin'' and ''L'Esprit de la Terre''. He met [[Helmut de Terra]], a [[Germans|German]] geologist in the [[International Union of Geological Sciences|International Geology Congress]] in [[Washington, DC]].<br />
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Teilhard participated in the 1935 [[Yale University|Yale]]–[[University of Cambridge|Cambridge]] expedition in northern and central [[India]] with the geologist [[Helmut de Terra]] and Patterson, who verified their assumptions on Indian [[Paleolithic]] civilisations in [[Kashmir]] and the [[Salt Range Valley]].<br />
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He then made a short stay in [[Java (island)|Java]], on the invitation of Professor [[Ralph van Koenigswald]] to the site of [[Java man]]. A second [[human skull|cranium]], more complete, was discovered. This [[Netherlands|Dutch]] paleontologist had found (in 1933) a tooth in a Chinese [[apothecary]] shop in 1934 that he believed belonged to a giant tall [[ape]] that lived around half a million years ago.<br />
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In 1937 Teilhard wrote ''Le Phénomène spirituel'' (''The Phenomenon of the Spirit'') on board the boat ''the Empress of Japan'', where he met the [[Raja]] of [[Sarawak]]. The ship conveyed him to the United States. He received the [[Mendel Medal]] granted by [[Villanova University]] during the Congress of [[Philadelphia, Pennsylvania|Philadelphia]] in recognition of his works on human paleontology. He made a speech about [[evolution]], origins and the destiny of Man. The ''[[New York Times]]'' dated March 19, 1937 presented Teilhard as the Jesuit who held that [[man]] descended from [[monkeys]]. Some days later, he was to be granted the ''[[Doctor Honoris Causa]]'' distinction from [[Boston College]]. Upon arrival in that city, he was told that the award had been cancelled.{{Citation needed|date=June 2008}}<br />
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1939 : Rome banned his work L’Énergie humaine.<br />
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He then stayed in France, where he was immobilized by [[malaria]]. During his return voyage to Beijing he wrote ''L'Energie spirituelle de la Souffrance'' (''Spiritual Energy of Suffering'') (Complete Works, tome VII).<br />
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1941 : de Chardin submitted to Rome his most important work, ''Le Phénomène humain''.<br />
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1947 : Rome forbade him to write or teach on philosophical subjects.<br />
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1948 : de Chardin was called to Rome by the Superior General of the Jesuits who hoped to<br />
acquire permission from the Holy See for the publication of his most important work Le<br />
Phénomène humain. But the prohibition to publish it issued in 1944, was again renewed.<br />
Teilhard was also forbidden to take a teaching post in the College de France.<br />
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1949 : Permission to publish ''Le Groupe Zoologique'' was refused.<br />
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1950: de Chardin was named to the [[French Academy of Sciences]].<br />
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1955 : de Chardin was forbidden by his Superiors to attend the “International Congress of<br />
Paleontology”.<br />
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1957 : The Supreme Authority of the Holy Office, in a decree dated 15 November 1957, forbade the<br />
works of de Chardin to be retained in libraries, including those of [[religious institute]]s. His books<br />
were not to be sold in Catholic bookshops and were not to be translated in other languages.<br />
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1958 : In April of this year, all Jesuit publications in Spain (“Razón y Fe”, “Sal Terrae”,<br />
“Estudios de Deusto”) etc., carried a notice from the Spanish Provincial of the Jesuits, that de<br />
Chardin’s works had been published in Spanish without previous ecclesiastical examination and in<br />
defiance of the decrees of the Holy See.<br />
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1962 : A decree of the Holy Office dated 30 June, under the authority of Pope John XXIII<br />
warned that “... it is obvious that in philosophical and theological matters, the said works (de<br />
Chardin’s) are replete with ambiguities or rather with serious errors which offend Catholic<br />
doctrine. That is why ... the Rev. Fathers of the Holy Office urge all Ordinaries, Superiors, and<br />
Rectors ... to effectively protect, especially the minds of the young, against the dangers of the<br />
works of Fr. Teilhard de Chardin and his followers”. (AAS, 6 Aug 1962).<br />
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1963 : The Vicariate of Rome (a diocese ruled in the name of Pope Paul VI by his Cardinal Vicar)<br />
in a decree dated 30 September, required that Catholic booksellers in Rome should withdraw<br />
from circulation the works of de Chardin, together with those books which favour his erroneous<br />
doctrines. The text of this document was published in daily L’Aurore of Paris, dated 2 Oct 1963,<br />
and was reproduced in Nouvelles de Chretiente, l0 October 1963, p.&nbsp;35.<br />
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===Death===<br />
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin died in [[New York City]], where he was in residence at the Jesuit [[Church of St. Ignatius Loyola (New York City)]], [[Park Avenue (Manhattan)|Park Avenue]]. On March 15, 1955, at the house of his diplomat cousin Jean de Lagarde, Teilhard told friends he hoped he would die on Easter Sunday.<ref>Smulders, Pieter Frans ♦ [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=images&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=bks:1&source=og&q=%22Three%20days%20later%2C%20on%20Easter%20Sunday%2C%20he%20was%20quite%20suddenly%22&sa=N&tab=wp&cad=cbv#sclient=psy&hl=en&lr=&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22On+March+15%2C+1955%2C+he+told+friends+he+hoped+he+would+die+on+Easter+Sunday%2C+the+feast+of+his+own+Messe+sur+le+monde.%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=8652cbd0fdc5ba22 The design of Teilhard de Chardin: an essay in theological reflection] 1967</ref> In the [[Easter Sunday]] evening of April 10, 1955, during an animated discussion at the apartment of Rhoda de Terra, his personal assistant since 1949, the 73-year-old priest suffered a heart attack; regaining consciousness for a moment, he died a few minutes later.<ref>Smulders, Pieter Frans ♦ [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=images&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=bks:1&source=og&q=%22Three%20days%20later%2C%20on%20Easter%20Sunday%2C%20he%20was%20quite%20suddenly%22&sa=N&tab=wp&cad=cbv#sclient=psy&hl=en&lr=&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22In+the+afternoon%2C+at+the+house+of+friends%2C+he+was+felled+by+a+heart+seizure%3B+regaining+consciousness+for+a+moment%2C+he+died+a+few+minutes+later%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=8652cbd0fdc5ba22 The design of Teilhard de Chardin: an essay in theological reflection] 1967</ref> He was buried in the cemetery for the New York Province of the Jesuits at the Jesuit novitiate, St. Andrew's-on-the-Hudson in [[Poughkeepsie (city), New York|Poughkeepsie]], [[upstate New York]].<ref>{{Find a Grave|6725251|Pierre Teilhard De Chardin|accessdate=October 21, 2010}}</ref><br />
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==Controversy with church officials==<br />
In 1925, Teilhard was ordered by the [[Father General|Jesuit Superior General]] [[Wlodimir Ledochowski]] to leave his teaching position in France and to sign a statement withdrawing his controversial statements regarding the [[Original Sin|doctrine of original sin]]. Rather than leave the Jesuit order, Teilhard signed the statement and left for [[China]].<br />
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This was the first of a series of condemnations by certain [[ecclesiastical]] officials that would continue until after Teilhard's death. The climax of these condemnations was a 1962 [[monitum]] (reprimand) of the [[Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith|Holy Office]] cautioning on Teilhard's works. From the monitum:<br />
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{{quotation|<br />
"The above-mentioned works abound in such ambiguities and indeed even serious errors, as to offend Catholic doctrine... For this reason, the most eminent and most revered Fathers of the Holy Office exhort all Ordinaries as well as the superiors of Religious institutes, rectors of seminaries and presidents of universities, effectively to protect the minds, particularly of the youth, against the dangers presented by the works of Fr. Teilhard de Chardin and of his followers".<ref>[http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/dechardin.txt ''Warning Considering the Writings of Father Teilhard de Chardin''], Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, June 30, 1962.</ref>}}<br />
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However, it is noteworthy that the Holy Office did not place any of Teilhard's writings on the [[Index Librorum Prohibitorum]] (Index of Forbidden Books), which existed during Teilhard's lifetime and at the time of the 1962 decree.<br />
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==Rehabilitation and Incorporation into Catholic Theology==<br />
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Shortly thereafter, prominent clerics began a strong theological defense of Teilhard's works. [[Henri de Lubac]] (later a Cardinal) wrote three comprehensive books on the theology of Teilhard de Chardin in the 1960s. While de Lubac mentioned that Teilhard was less than precise in some of his concepts he nevertheless affirmed the orthodoxy of Teilhard de Chardin with a stinging rebuke to Teilhard's critics ''“We need not concern ourselves with a number of detractors of Teilhard, in whom emotion has blunted intelligence”''.<ref>Cardinal Henri Cardinal de Lubac, S.J.&nbsp;– The Religion of Teilhard de Chardin, Image Books (1968)</ref> Later that decade a bright young German theologian, [[Joseph Ratzinger]] (later Pope Benedict XVI) spoke glowingly of Teilhard's Christology in Ratzinger's famous "Introduction to Christianity":<br />
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{{quotation|''“It must be regarded as an important service of Teilhard de Chardin’s that he rethought these ideas from the angle of the modern view of the world and, in spite of a not entirely unobjectionable tendency toward the biological approach, nevertheless on the whole grasped them correctly and in any case made them accessible once again. Let us listen to his own words: The human monad “can only be absolutely itself by ceasing to be alone”. In the background is the idea that in the cosmos, alongside the two orders or classes of the infinitely small and the infinitely big, there is a third order, which determines the real drift of evolution, namely, the order of the infinitely complex. It is the real goal of the ascending process of growth or becoming; it reaches a first peak in the genesis of living things and then continues to advance to those highly complex creations that give the cosmos a new center: “Imperceptible and accidental as the position they hold may be in the history of the heavenly bodies, in the last analysis the planets are nothing less than the vital points of the universe. It is through them that the axis now runs, on them is henceforth concentrated the main effort of an evolution aiming principally at the production of large molecules.” The examination of the world by the dynamic criterion of complexity thus signifies “a complete inversion of values. A reversal of the perspective...<br />
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''This leads to a further passage in Teilhard de Chardin that is worth quoting in order to give at least some indication here, by means of a few fragmentary excerpts, of his general outlook. “The Universal Energy must be a Thinking Energy if it is not to be less highly evolved than the ends animated by its action. And consequently ... the attributes of cosmic value with which it is surrounded in our modern eyes do not affect in the slightest the necessity obliging us to recognize in it a transcendent form of Personality.”'''' <ref>Ratzinger, Joseph Cardinal; Pope Benedict XVI; Benedict; J. R. Foster; Michael J. Miller (2010-06-04). Introduction To Christianity, 2nd Edition (Kindle Locations 2840-2865). Ignatius Press. Kindle Edition.</ref> }}<br />
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Over the next several decades prominent theologians and Church leaders, including leading Cardinals, [[Pope John Paul II]] and [[Pope Benedict XVI]] all wrote approvingly of Teilhard's ideas. In 1981, Cardinal [[Agostino Casaroli]], on behalf of [[Pope John Paul II]], wrote on the front page of the Vatican newspaper, ''l'Osservatore Romano'':<br />
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{{quotation|"What our contemporaries will undoubtedly remember, beyond the difficulties of conception and deficiencies of expression in this audacious attempt to reach a synthesis, is the testimomy of the coherent life of a man possessed by Christ in the depths of his soul. He was concerned with honoring both faith and reason, and anticipated the response to John Paul II's appeal: 'Be not afraid, open, open wide to Christ the doors of the immense domains of culture, civilization, and progress.'''<ref>[http://www.traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/A_020_CasaroliTeilhard.htm Cardinal Agostino Casaroli praises the work of Fr. Teilhard de Chardin to Cardinal Paul Poupard, then Rector of the Institut Catholique de Paris&nbsp;– L'Osservatore Romano, June 10, 1981 @ TraditionInAction.org<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref> }}<br />
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Cardinal [[Avery Dulles]], S.J. said in 2004:<br />
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{{quotation|''"In his own poetic style, the French Jesuit Teilhard de Chardin liked to meditate on the Eucharist as the firstfruits of the new creation. In an essay called The Monstrance he describes how, kneeling in prayer, he had a sensation that the Host was beginning to grow until at last, through its mysterious expansion, 'the whole world had become incandescent, had itself become like a single giant Host.' Although it would probably be incorrect to imagine that the universe will eventually be transubstantiated, Teilhard correctly identified the connection between the Eucharist and the final glorification of the cosmos."'' <ref>A Eucharistic Church: The Vision of John Paul II&nbsp;– McGinley Lecture, University, November 10, 2004</ref>'' }}<br />
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Cardinal [[Christoph Schönborn]] wrote in 2007:<br />
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{{quotation|''"Hardly anyone else has tried to bring together the knowledge of Christ and the idea of evolution as the scientist (paleontologist) and theologian Fr. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, S.J., has done. ... His fascinating vision ... has represented a great hope, the hope that faith in Christ and a scientific approach to the world can be brought together. ... These brief references to Teilhard cannot do justice to his efforts. The fascination which Teilhard de Chardin exercised for an entire generation stemmed from his radical manner of looking at science and Christian faith together."'' <ref>Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn, Creation, Evolution, and a Rational Faith, Ignatian Press (2007)</ref>'' }}<br />
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[[Pope Benedict XVI]], in his book "Spirit of the Liturgy" incorporates Teilhard's vision as a touchstone of the Catholic Mass:<br />
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{{quotation|''“And so we can now say that the goal of worship and the goal of creation as a whole are one and the same—divinization, a world of freedom and love. But this means that the historical makes its appearance in the cosmic. The cosmos is not a kind of closed building, a stationary container in which history may by chance take place. It is itself movement, from its one beginning to its one end. In a sense, creation is history. Against the background of the modern evolutionary world view, Teilhard de Chardin depicted the cosmos as a process of ascent, a series of unions. From very simple beginnings the path leads to ever greater and more complex unities, in which multiplicity is not abolished but merged into a growing synthesis, leading to the “Noosphere”, in which spirit and its understanding embrace the whole and are blended into a kind of living organism. Invoking the epistles to the Ephesians and Colossians, Teilhard looks on Christ as the energy that strives toward the Noosphere and finally incorporates everything in its “fullness’. From here Teilhard went on to give a new meaning to Christian worship: the transubstantiated Host is the anticipation of the transformation and divinization of matter in the christological “fullness”. In his view, the Eucharist provides the movement of the cosmos with its direction; it anticipates its goal and at the same time urges it on.”'' <ref>– Ratzinger, Joseph Cardinal; Pope Benedict XVI (2009-06-11). The Spirit of the Liturgy (Kindle Locations 260–270). Ignatius Press. Kindle Edition.</ref>'' }}<br />
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==Teachings==<br />
In his posthumously published book, ''[[The Phenomenon of Man]]'', Teilhard writes of the unfolding of the material [[cosmos]], from [[primordial]] particles to the development of life, human beings and the [[noosphere]], and finally to his vision of the [[Omega Point]] in the future, which is "pulling" all creation towards it. He was a leading proponent of [[orthogenesis]], the idea that [[evolution]] occurs in a directional, goal driven way, argued in terms that today go under the banner of [[convergent evolution]]. Teilhard argued in [[Charles Darwin|Darwin]]ian terms with respect to biology, and supported the [[Modern evolutionary synthesis|synthetic model of evolution]], but argued in [[Lamarckism|Lamarckian terms]] for the development of culture, primarily through the vehicle of education.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoI4Bamf-9s "Teilhard de Chardin, Orthogenesis, and the Mechanism of Evolutionary Change"] by [http://www.thomasfglick.com/ Thomas F Glick].</ref><br />
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Teilhard makes sense of the [[universe]] by its evolutionary process. He interprets complexity as the axis of evolution of matter into a geosphere, a biosphere, into consciousness (in man,) and then to supreme consciousness (the Omega Point.)<br />
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Teilhard's life work was predicated on the conviction that human spiritual development is moved by the same universal laws as material development. He wrote, "...everything is the sum of the past" and "...nothing is comprehensible except through its history. 'Nature' is the equivalent of 'becoming', self-creation: this is the view to which experience irresistibly leads us. ... There is nothing, not even the human soul, the highest spiritual manifestation we know of, that does not come within this universal law."<ref>Teilhard de Chardin: [http://www.religion-online.org/showchapter.asp?title=2287&C=2162 "A Note on Progress"]</ref> There is no doubt that ''The Phenomenon of Man'' represents Teilhard's attempt at reconciling his religious [[Catholicism|faith]] with his academic interests as a [[paleontologist]].<ref name="phenomenon1">Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, ''The Phenomenon of Man'' (New York: Harper and Row, 1959), 250–75.</ref> One particularly poignant observation in Teilhard's book entails the notion that [[evolution]] is becoming an increasingly optional [[Process (science)|process]].<ref name="phenomenon1"/> Teilhard points to the societal problems of [[Solitude|isolation]] and [[marginalization]] as huge [[:wikt:inhibit|inhibitor]]s of evolution, especially since evolution requires a unification of [[higher consciousness|consciousness]]. He states that "no evolutionary future awaits anyone except in association with everyone else."<ref name="phenomenon1"/> Teilhard argued that the human condition necessarily leads to the psychic unity of humankind, though he stressed that this unity can only be voluntary; this voluntary psychic unity he termed "unanimization." Teilhard also states that "evolution is an ascent toward consciousness", giving [[encephalization]] as an example of early stages, and therefore, signifies a continuous upsurge toward the [[Omega Point]],<ref name="phenomenon1"/> which for all intents and purposes, is [[God]]. {{quotation|Our century is probably more religious than any other. How could it fail to be, with such problems to be solved? The only trouble is that it has not yet found a God it can adore.<ref name="phenomenon1"/>}}<br />
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==Influence==<br />
Evidence of what is probably Teilhard's greatest influence on science comes from the work of [[Theodosius Dobzhansky]], the eminent 20th Century biologist credited along with a handful of key researchers for the development of the [[Modern evolutionary synthesis|Modern Evolutionary Synthesis]] that accounts for [[natural selection]] in the light of [[Mendelian genetics]]. Dobzhansky's famous essay [[Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution]] draws upon the insistence of Teilhard that evolutionary theory must be placed at the center of how man understands his relationship to nature.<br />
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Teilhard and his work have a continuing presence in the [[arts]] and [[culture]]. He inspired a number of characters in literary works. References range from occasional quotations—an auto mechanic quotes Teilhard in [[Philip K. Dick]]'s ''[[A Scanner Darkly]]''<ref>{{Cite book<br />
| last = Dick<br />
| first = Philip K.<br />
| title = A Scanner Darkly<br />
| publisher = Vintage<br />
| year = 1991<br />
| location =<br />
| page = 127<br />
| isbn = 978-0-679-73665-3}}</ref>&nbsp;– to serving as the philosophical underpinning of the plot, as Teilhard's work does in [[Julian May]]'s 1987–94 [[Galactic Milieu Series]].<ref>{{Cite book<br />
| last = May<br />
| first = Julian<br />
| title = Jack the Bodiless<br />
| publisher = Random House Value Publishing<br />
| date = April 11, 1994<br />
| page = 287<br />
| isbn = 978-0-517-11644-9}}</ref> Teilhard also plays a major role in [[Annie Dillard]]'s 1999 ''For the Time Being''.<ref>{{Cite book<br />
| last = Dillard<br />
| first = Annie<br />
| title = For the Time Being<br />
| publisher = Vintage<br />
| date = 8 February 2000<br />
| isbn = 978-0-375-70347-8}}</ref> Characters based on Teilhard appear in several novels, including Jean Telemond in [[Morris West]]'s ''[[The Shoes of the Fisherman]]''<ref>{{Cite journal<br />
| last = Moss<br />
| first = R.F.<br />
| title = Suffering, sinful Catholics<br />
| journal = The Antioch Review<br />
| volume = 36<br />
| issue = 2<br />
| pages = 170–181<br />
| date = Spring, 1978<br />
| publisher = Antioch Review<br />
| jstor = 4638026<br />
| doi = 10.2307/4638026 }}</ref> (mentioned by name and quoted by [[Oskar Werner]] playing Fr. Telemond in the movie version of the novel) and Father Lankester Merrin in [[William Peter Blatty]]'s ''[[The Exorcist (novel)|The Exorcist]]''.<ref><br />
{{Cite web<br />
|url=http://web.archive.org/web/20091027135935/http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/5160/blatty.html<br />
|title=Bill Blatty on "The Exorcist"<br />
|publisher=www.geocities.com, retrieved from the Wayback machine<br />
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|archiveurl = http://web.archive.org/web/20020123033633/http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/5160/blatty.html<br />
|archivedate = 2002-01-23}}</ref> In [[Dan Simmons]]' 1989–97 ''[[Hyperion Cantos]]'', Teilhard de Chardin has been canonized a [[saint]] in the far future. His work inspires the [[anthropologist]] priest character, Paul Duré. When Duré becomes [[Pope]], he takes ''Teilhard I'' as his [[regnal name]].<ref>{{Cite book<br />
| last = Simmons<br />
| first = Dan<br />
| title = The Fall of Hyperion<br />
| publisher = Doubleday<br />
| date = 1 February 1990<br />
| location =<br />
| page = 464<br />
| isbn = 978-0-385-26747-2}}</ref><br />
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Teilhard appears as a minor character in the play "Fake" by [[Eric Simonson]], staged by Chicago's [[Steppenwolf Theatre Company]] in 2009, involving a fictional solution to the infamous [[Piltdown Man]] hoax.<br />
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Teilhard's work has also inspired the philosophical ruminations of Italian laureate architect [[Paolo Soleri]], artworks such as French painter [[Alfred Manessier]]'s ''L'Offrande de la terre ou Hommage à Teilhard de Chardin''<ref><br />
{{Cite web<br />
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{{Cite web<br />
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}}</ref> [[Edmund Rubbra]]'s 1968 Symphony No. 8 is titled ''Hommage a Teilhard de Chardin''.<br />
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Teilhard's influence is commemorated on numerous collegiate campuses. A building at the [[University of Manchester]] is named after him, as are residence dormitories at [[Gonzaga University]] and [[Seattle University]]. His stature as a biologist was honored by [[George Gaylord Simpson]] in naming the most primitive and ancient genus of true [[primate]], the [[Eocene]] genus ''[[Teilhardina]]''.<br />
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The title of the short-story collection ''[[Everything That Rises Must Converge]]'' by [[Flannery O'Connor]] is a reference to Teilhard's work.<br />
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The American novelist [[Don DeLillo]]'s 2010 novel ''[[Point Omega]]'' borrows its title and some of its ideas from Teilhard de Chardin.<br />
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[[Robert Wright (journalist)|Robert Wright]], in his book ''[[Nonzero: The Logic of Human Destiny]]'', compares his own naturalistic thesis that biological and cultural evolution are directional and, possibly, purposeful, with Teilhard's ideas.<br />
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Evolutionary biologist [[Jeremy Griffith]] described Teilhard as a "visionary" philosopher and a contemporary "truth-sayer" or "prophet"<ref>{{cite book|last=Griffith|first=Jeremy | authorlink = Jeremy Griffith |title=Freedom Book 1|volume= ''Part 4:4B''| year=2013|publisher=WTM Publishing & Communications|isbn=978-1-74129-011-0|url=http://www.worldtransformation.com/freedom-book1-we-couldnt-confront-integrative-meaning/| accessdate = March 28, 2013}}</ref><br />
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==Bibliography==<br />
The dates in parentheses are the dates of first publication in French and English. Most of these works were written years earlier, but Teilhard's ecclesiastical order forbade him to publish them because of their controversial nature. The essay collections are organized by subject rather than date, thus each one typically spans many years.<br />
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* ''Le Phénomène Humain'' (1955), written 1938–40, scientific exposition of Teilhard's theory of evolution<br />
** ''[[The Phenomenon of Man]]'' (1959), Harper Perennial 1976: ISBN 0-06-090495-X. Reprint 2008: ISBN 978-0-06-163265-5.<br />
** ''[[The Human Phenomenon]]'' (1999), Brighton: Sussex Academic, 2003: ISBN 1-902210-30-1<br />
* ''Letters From a Traveler'' (1956; English translation 1962), written 1923–55<br />
* ''Le Groupe Zoologique Humain'' (1956), written 1949, more detailed presentation of Teilhard's theories<br />
** ''Man's Place in Nature'' (English translation 1966)<br />
* ''Le Milieu Divin'' (1957), spiritual book written 1926–27, in which the author seeks to offer a way for everyday life, or the secular, to be divinised.<br />
** ''The Divine Milieu'' (1960) Harper Perennial 2001: ISBN 0-06-093725-4<br />
* ''L'Avenir de l'Homme'' (1959) essays written 1920–52, on the evolution of consciousness (noosphere)<br />
** ''The Future of Man'' (1964) Image 2004: ISBN 0-385-51072-1<br />
* ''Hymn of the Universe'' (1961; English translation 1965) Harper and Row: ISBN 0-06-131910-4, mystical/spiritual essays and thoughts written 1916–55<br />
* ''L'Energie Humaine'' (1962), essays written 1931–39, on morality and love<br />
** ''Human Energy'' (1969) Harcort Brace Jovanovich ISBN 0-15-642300-6<br />
* ''L'Activation de l'Energie'' (1963), sequel to ''Human Energy'', essays written 1939–55 but not planned for publication, about the universality and irreversibility of human action<br />
** ''Activation of Energy'' (1970), Harvest/HBJ 2002: ISBN 0-15-602817-4<br />
* ''Je M'Explique'' (1966) Jean-Pierre Demoulin, editor ISBN 0-685-36593-X, "The Essential Teilhard"&nbsp;— selected passages from his works<br />
** ''Let Me Explain'' (1970) Harper and Row ISBN 0-06-061800-0, Collins/Fontana 1973: ISBN 0-00-623379-1<br />
* ''Christianity and Evolution'', Harvest/HBJ 2002: ISBN 0-15-602818-2<br />
* ''The Heart of the Matter'', Harvest/HBJ 2002: ISBN 0-15-602758-5<br />
* ''Toward the Future'', Harvest/HBJ 2002: ISBN 0-15-602819-0<br />
* ''The Making of a Mind: Letters from a Soldier-Priest 1914–1919'', Collins (1965), Letters written during wartime.<br />
* ''Writings in Time of War'', Collins (1968) composed of spiritual essays written during wartime. One of the few books of Teilhard to receive an imprimatur.<br />
* ''Vision of the Past'', Collins (1966) composed of mostly scientific essays published in the French science journal ''Etudes''.<br />
* ''The Appearance of Man'', Collins (1965) composed of mostly scientific writings published in the French science journal ''Etudes''.<br />
* ''Letters to Two Friends 1926–1952'', Fontana (1968) composed of personal letters on varied subjects including his understanding of death.<br />
*''Letters to [[Leontine Zanta]]'', Collins (1969)<br />
*''Correspondence / Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Maurice Blondel'', Herder and Herder (1967) This correspondence also has both the imprimatur and nihil obstat.<br />
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==See also==<br />
{{Refbegin|2}}<br />
*[[Edouard Le Roy]]<br />
*[[Thomas Berry]]<br />
*[[List of science and religion scholars]]<br />
*[[List of Jesuit scientists]]<br />
*[[List of Roman Catholic scientist-clerics]]<br />
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==References==<br />
{{Reflist|2}}<br />
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==Further reading==<br />
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*[[Amir Aczel]], ''The Jesuit and the Skull: Teilhard de Chardin, Evolution and the Search for Peking Man'' (Riverhead Hardcover, 2007)<br />
*[[Pope Benedict XVI]], ''The Spirit of the Liturgy'' (Ignatian Press 2000)<br />
*[[Pope Benedict XVI]], ''Introduction to Christianity'' (Ignatius Press, Revised edition, 2004)<br />
* John Cowburn, S.J., Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, a Selective Summary of His Life (Mosaic Press 2013)<br />
*[[Claude Cuenot]], ''Science and Faith in Teilhard de Chardin'' (Garstone Press, 1967)<br />
*[[Andre Dupleix]], ''15 Days of Prayer with Teilhard de Chardin'' (New City Press, 2008)<br />
*Robert Faricy, SJ, ''Teilhard de Chardin's Theology of Christian in the World'' (Sheed and Ward 1968)<br />
*Robert Faricy, SJ, ''The Spirituality of Teilhard de Chardin'' (Collins 1981, Harper & Row 1981)<br />
*Robert Faricy, SJ and Lucy Rooney SND, ''Praying with Teilhard de Chardin''(Queenship 1996)<br />
*David Grumett, ''Teilhard de Chardin: Theology, Humanity and Cosmos'' (Peeters 2005)<br />
*[[Dietrich von Hildebrand]], ''Teilhard de Chardin: A False Prophet'' (Franciscan Herald Press 1970)<br />
*[[Dietrich von Hildebrand]], ''Trojan Horse in the City of God''<br />
*[[Dietrich von Hildebrand]], ''Devastated Vineyard''<br />
*Thomas M. King, SJ, ''Teilhard's Mass; Approaches to "The Mass on the World"'' (Paulist Press, 2005)<br />
*Ursula King, ''Spirit of Fire: The Life and Vision of Teilhard de Chardin'' [http://www.maryknollsocietymall.org/description.cfm?ISBN=978-1-57075-177-6](Orbis Books, 1996)<br />
*Richard W. Kropf, ''Teilhard, Scripture and Revelation: A Study of Teilhard de Chardin's Reinterpretation of Pauline Themes'' (Associated University Press, 1980)<br />
*David H. Lane, ''The Phenomenon of Teilhard: Prophet for a New Age'' (Mercer University Press)<br />
*[[Henri de Lubac|Lubac, Henri de]], SJ, ''The Religion of Teilhard de Chardin'' (Image Books, 1968)<br />
*[[Henri de Lubac|Lubac, Henri de]], SJ, ''The Faith of Teilhard de Chardin'' (Burnes and Oates, 1965)<br />
*[[Henri de Lubac|Lubac, Henri de]], SJ, ''The Eternal Feminine: A Study of the Text of Teilhard de Chardin'' (Collins, 1971)<br />
*[[Henri de Lubac|Lubac, Henri de]], SJ, ''Teilhard Explained'' (Paulist Press, 1968)<br />
*Mary and Ellen Lukas, ''Teilhard'' (Doubleday, 1977)<br />
*Jean Maalouf ''Teilhard de Chardin, Reconciliation in Christ'' (New City Press, 2002)<br />
*[[George A. Maloney]], SJ, ''The Cosmic Christ: From Paul to Teilhard'' (Sheed and Ward, 1968)<br />
*[[Christopher Mooney|Mooney, Christopher]], SJ, ''Teilhard de Chardin and the Mystery of Christ'' (Image Books, 1968)<br />
*Murray, Michael H. ''The Thought of Teilhard de Chardin'' (Seabury Press, N.Y., 1966)<br />
*[[Robert J. O'Connell]], SJ, ''Teilhard's Vision of the Past: The Making of a Method'', (Fordham University Press, 1982)<br />
*Noel Keith Roberts, ''From Piltdown Man to Point Omega: the evolutionary theory of Teilhard de Chardin'' (New York, Peter Lang, 2000)<br />
*James F. Salmon, S.J., 'Pierre Teilhard de Chardin' in ''[[The Blackwell Companion to Science and Christianity]]'' (Wiley-Blackwell, 2012)<br />
*Louis M. Savory, ''Teilhard de Chardin&nbsp;– The Divine Milieu Explained: A Spirituality for the 21st Century'' (Paulist Press, 2007)<br />
*[[Robert Speaight]], ''The Life of Teilhard de Chardin'' (Harper and Row, 1967)<br />
*[[Helmut de Terra]], ''Memories of Teilhard de Chardin,'' (Harper and Row and Wm Collins Sons & Co., 1964)<br />
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==External links==<br />
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===Pro===<br />
{{Commons category|Teilhard de Chardin}}<br />
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*[http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Pierre%20Teilhard%20de%20Chardin%22 Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's books in the Internet Archive]<br />
*Chardin, Pierre Teilhard de ♦ [http://www.archive.org/details/phenomenon-of-man-pierre-teilhard-de-chardin.pdf The Phenomenon of Man] Scanned book in the [[The Internet Archive|Internet Archive]]<br />
*Chardin, Pierre Teilhard de ♦ ''The Phenomenon of Man'' in [http://arthursbookshelf.com/Other-stuff/Fenelon/The%20Phenomenon%20Of%20Man%20-%20Pierre%20Teilhard%20de%20Chardin.epub ePub], [http://arthursbookshelf.com/Other-stuff/Fenelon/The%20Phenomenon%20Of%20Man%20-%20mobi.zip MOBI] and [http://arthursbookshelf.com/Other-stuff/Fenelon/The%20Phenomenon%20Of%20Man%20-%20Pierre%20Teilhard%20de%20Chardin.pdf PDF] formats (without illustrations)<br />
*[http://teilhard.com/ Teilhard de Chardin] (A site devoted to the ideas of Teilhard de Chardin)<br />
*[http://www.mnhn.fr/teilhard/indexE.html The Teilhard de Chardin Foundation]<br />
*[http://www.teilharddechardin.org/ The American Teilhard Association]<br />
*[http://tcreek1.jimdo.com Teilhard de Chardin] A personal website<br />
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===Contra===<br />
*[http://www.catholicculture.org/library/view.cfm?recnum=3160 Warning Regarding the Writings of Father Teilhard de Chardin] The Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, 1962<br />
*Medawar, Peter ♦ [http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/Medawar/phenomenon-of-man.html A review of ''The Phenomenon of Man''] ''Mind'', N.S., 70 (1961) pp.&nbsp;99–106<br />
*McCarthy, John F. ♦ [http://www.rtforum.org/lt/lt25.html#II A review of ''Teilhardism and the New Religion'' by Wolfgang Smith] 1989<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de [[Vregille]]''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
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== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
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The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
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== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, ink of China and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
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"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works whith an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
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On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned french architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
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"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
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"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
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== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
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[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
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=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
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=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette de Cyr<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
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== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
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Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violonist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
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== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
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[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
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Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
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:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
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Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
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France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
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== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
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5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
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| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
}}<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
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| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, en 2009.JPG<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
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| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de Vregille''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, ink of China and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works whith an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned french architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette de Cyr<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violonist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
<br />
:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
<br />
5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
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{{Persondata<br />
| NAME = Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de<br />
| ALTERNATIVE NAMES =<br />
| SHORT DESCRIPTION = French painter<br />
| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
}}<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:French painters]]</div>Drapéhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arnaud_Courlet_de_Vregille&diff=581054361Arnaud Courlet de Vregille2013-11-10T15:52:56Z<p>Drapé: /* A style */</p>
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<div>{{Orphan|date=November 2013}}<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
| bgcolour = #EEDD82<br />
| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, en 2009.JPG<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de Vregille''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, ink of China and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works whith an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned french architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumière brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette (Saint Cyr)<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violonist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
<br />
:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
<br />
5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}<br />
<br />
{{Persondata<br />
| NAME = Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de<br />
| ALTERNATIVE NAMES =<br />
| SHORT DESCRIPTION = French painter<br />
| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
}}<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
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| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, en 2009.JPG<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de Vregille''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in [[Besançon]] ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, ink of China and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works whith an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned french architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumières brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette (Saint Cyr)<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violonist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
<br />
:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
<br />
5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
<br />
</gallery><br />
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| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
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[[Category:Living people]]<br />
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| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
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| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de Vregille''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in Besançon ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, ink of China and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works whith an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned french architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumières brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored in 2013 within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette (Saint Cyr)<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violonist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
<br />
:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
<br />
5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}<br />
<br />
{{Persondata<br />
| NAME = Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de<br />
| ALTERNATIVE NAMES =<br />
| SHORT DESCRIPTION =<br />
| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:Painting]]<br />
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{{Infobox artist<br />
| bgcolour = #EEDD82<br />
| name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| image = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, en 2009.JPG<br />
| caption = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille, in 2009.<br />
| birth_name = Arnaud Courlet de Vregille<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date|df=yes|1958|3|5}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| death_date = <br />
| death_place = <br />
| nationality = French<br />
| field = Painting, [[Printmaking]]<br />
| training =<br />
| movement = <br />
| works = <br />
| patrons =<br />
| awards = Price ''Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris'' (Paris 1993, ''Laisse moi''), etc.}}<br />
<br />
'''Arnaud Courlet de Vregille''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in Besançon ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, ink of China and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting".<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref> In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works whith an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned french architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet.<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>""<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumières brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, was restored within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]<br />
<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette (Saint Cyr)<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violonist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90&nbsp;cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
<br />
:"Art concours 1993"<br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012)<br />
<br />
Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br />
<br />
France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
<br />
5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7&nbsp;cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40&nbsp;cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80&nbsp;cm)<br />
<br />
</gallery><br />
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| NAME = Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de<br />
| ALTERNATIVE NAMES =<br />
| SHORT DESCRIPTION =<br />
| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
}}<br />
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[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:Painting]]<br />
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'''Arnaud Courlet de Vregille''' (5 March 1958) is a French painter.<br />
<br />
== Biography ==<br />
Born into a family of painters related to [[Otto van Veen]] <ref>http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en</ref> (master of [[Rubens]]), Arnaud Courlet de Vregille began to draw at a very early age and subsequently embarked on a painting-career : paintings, murals (fresco), theatre decors. In 1993, his talent as a painter was revealed when the Institut Supérieur de Paris awarded him a prize for his work ''Laisse-moi'' which work was acquired by the Ministry of Finance for the decoration of the Cité Administrative de Bobigny.<br />
<br />
The painter lives in Besançon ([[Doubs]]) where he pursues his artistic career.<br />
<br />
== A style ==<br />
[[File:Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.TIF|thumb|gauche|150px|'''''[[Pierre Teilhard de Chardin]]''''', (1975, ink of China and pencil, 21 × 29,7 cm)]]<br />
The ''Who's Who Art'' considers his art as an "lyrical abstraction", "futurism", "spontaneous painting"<ref>''Who’s Who In International Art'', 2002, p. 18 & 78</ref>. In 2004, the ''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'' dedicated him a reference article :<br />
<br />
"''Painter who does not fit into any fixed category, exploring the very dephts of abstrac art in order to bring to the surface the merest of the figurative. His painting, which seems to emerge from a kind of coloured skin, expresses all the warmth of tortured reality. In the words of the artists, he paints his canvases both impulsively and after a phase of blending and condensing which are the fruits of lengthy period of preparation within himself. He marks some of his works whith an often partially concealed circle of solitude which shatters to evoke the moment when reality become fragile and crakcks, giving way to the invisible as well as displaying the pulzzing conspicuousness of visible. The emotion which pervades his painting seems to spring from his movement, his violence, his light<ref>''Encyclopédie des Arts en Franche-Comté'', Jacques Rittaud-Hutinet et Chantal Leclerc, La Taillanderie, 2004, p. 111</ref>''".<br />
<br />
On the occasion of the bicentenary exhibition of [[Claude Nicolas Ledoux]] (renowned french architect of the 18th century) at the [[Royal Saltworks at Arc-et-Senans|Royal Saltworks]] in Arc-et-Senans, Franche-Comté (site listed as [[World Heritage]] by [[Unesco]]), the catalog ''Le deuxième regard'' wrote :<br />
<br />
"''The painting of Courlet de Vregille enters into an almost natural relation with the inspiration of Ledoux ; indeed both explore those paths which [[Bachelard]] referred to as'' "materialised imagination, that spiritual place where all forms of art converge and meet<ref>''Le deuxième regard'', 2006, p. 32</ref>.""<br />
<br />
"''Following a very contemporary trend, an expression of the point of view of one art on another, which resumes here in an independant vision the wonder of new discovery''", a portrait of the [[Auguste and Louis Lumière|Lumières brothers]] : ''Lumière ou Projection privée'' (''Light or Private projection''), is exhibited in l'Eden Théâtre de [[La Ciotat]]. L'Eden Théâtre, heritage label of the 20th century, is currnetly undergoing restoration within the framework of Marseille-Provence 2013, European capital of culture.<br />
<br />
== Shows ==<br />
Exposition décoration Cité Administrative de Bobigny (Paris, 1993)<br /><br />
Galerie Barthélémy (Besançon, 1993)<br /><br />
Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministry of Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Salon de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées Nord-est (Douai, 2002)<br /><br />
Salon National de Peinture et Sculpture des Armées (Château de Vincennes, 2002)<br /><br />
Château de Syam (Syam, 2005)<br /><br />
Exposition Désert Art’ique (Besançon, 2006)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire de Claude Nicolas Ledoux (Besançon, Conseil Général, 2006)<br /><br />
Salines royales d'Arc-et-Senans, (Arc-et-Senans 2006)<br /><br />
Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
Exposition pour le bicentenaire du Cadastre, Ecole nationale du Cadastre (Toulouse, 2007)<br />
<br />
[[File:Concerto 06.jpg|thumb|'''''Concerto''''' <br /><br />
(2006, acrylic, 120 × 90 cm)]]<br />
=== Jury of Paris exhibitions === <br />
Laurence Cavy, Christie’s<br /><br />
Françoise de Perthuis, Gazette Drouot<br /><br />
Claude Maruno, Expert of 19e and contemporary art<br /><br />
Edmond Laznikas, Critic<br /><br />
Georges Véaud, President of the ''Société Historique et Archéologique'', Paris (XIV)<br /><br />
Jean-Paul Welzer, Expert of contemporary painting<br />
<br />
=== Auctioneers Paris exhibitions ===<br />
Pierre Cornette (Saint Cyr)<br /><br />
Guy Loudemer<br /><br />
Maître Pillon<br /><br />
Maître Machoïr<br /><br />
<br />
== Exhibitions ==<br />
[[File:Dur et Douce comme le temps qui passe.JPG|thumb|'''''Dure et Douce comme le temps qui passe''''' <br /><br />
(1994, pastel and acrylic, 60 × 40 cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
Hôtel de Paris (Besançon, 1994)<br /><br />
Citadelle de Besançon (Besançon, 1996)<br /><br />
Avenue George V (Paris, 1998, 1999)<br /><br />
Galerie Vauban (Dijon, 1999)<br /><br />
Atelier Pierre Beuchey (Besançon, 2000)<br /><br />
Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001)<br /><br />
Pianos Jean Michel Maître (Besançon, 2008)<br /><br />
Journée du Patrimoine (Dampierre-sur-Salon, Maison Couyba, 2012)<br /><br />
Salon du livre (Dampierre-sur-Salon 2009, 2012, with musical accompaniment of Hasan Bakalli, violonist for the Orchestre de Besançon Franche-Comté, Pays de Montbéliard)<br /><br />
Rectorat Académie de Besançon (Besançon, 2012)<br /><br />
<br />
== Distinctions and rewards ==<br />
1er Prix Institut Supérieur des Arts de Paris (Paris, 1993, ''Laisse-moi'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1995, ''Archi'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1996, ''Une heure dans la nuit'')<br /><br />
Mention spéciale, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 1998, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Nomination, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2000, ''Soliman le magnifique'')<br /><br />
Prix Argenson, Galerie Everarts (Paris, 2001, ''Quand le Scarabée d’Or'')<br /><br />
Prix de Poésie, Salon Victor Chocquet (Paris, 2007, « Ecris pour moi »)<br /><br />
<br />
[[File:Brünnhilde.jpg|thumb|'''''Brünhilde'''''<br /><br />
(2012, acrylic, 120 × 90 cm)]]'''<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
'''<br />
Catalogs of exhibitions :<br /><br />
<br />
:"Art concours 1993"<br /><br />
:Salon Victor Chocquet, Ministère des Finances (Paris, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
:Galeries Everarts (2001)<br /><br />
:Festival de Peinture et de Sculpture de Belfort (Belfort, 2007, 2008)<br /><br />
:Association AC'Bizard (Dampierre-sur-Salon (70), Maison Couyba, 2009, 2012) <br />
<br />
Regional press : <br /><br />
:''L'Est Républicain'' (1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2007, 2012)<br /><br />
:''La Provence'' (2001, 2005)<br /><br />
:''Arts Sports Voyages'' (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007)<br /><br />
<br />
France télévisions :<br />
:"Les artistes rencontrent leur public à l'atelier" (septembre 2000)<br />
:"La résidence d'artistes" (septembre 2002)<br />
:"Le deuxième regard" (octobre 2006)<br />
<br />
== External links ==<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki66L2QnzQA Vidéo du Conseil Général de Franche-Comté]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HhXmOdF4 Un homme, un style, une oeuvre]<br />
* [http://www.la-taillanderie.com/ Editions La Taillanderie]<br />
* [http://www.artactif.com/ Artactif]<br />
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ Ville de Besançon]<br />
<br />
<gallery peinture="3" caption="Galerie"><br />
<br />
5Ad Romy Schneider 1975 A4 Crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture arnaud|''Romy Schneider'' (1975, pencil, 21 × 29.7 cm)<br />
22 Au Partage 1987 A4 Crayon et gouache.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Au partage'' (1987, pencil et gouache, 21 × 29.7 cm)<br />
27 Az Le picotin A4 Encre de chine.TIF|alt=Peinture|''Le picotin'' (1988, acrylic ink, 21 × 29.7 cm)<br />
40 Bl Le procès 1989 60 × {{unité|40|cm}} Encre acrylique.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Le procès'' (1989, acrylique ink, 60 × 40 cm)<br />
172 Gi Dance A4 Pastel et crayon.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Dance'' (pastel and pencil, 21 × 29,7)<br />
253 Ji 2007 L'Oratoire a l'Isle Bouchard Inspirée du livre Os.2,16-17.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Oratoire'' (2007, fresque murale)<br />
297 Kz La Machine a Rêves 2010 120 × {{unité|80|cm}} Acrylique et Pastels.JPG|alt=Peinture|''La machine à rêves'' (2010, acrylic and pastel, 120 × 80 cm)<br />
310 Ll Charles Couyba 2011 90 × {{unité|120|cm}} Acryliques.JPG|alt=Peinture|''Charles Couyba'' (2011, acrylic, 120 × 80 cm)<br />
<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}<br />
<br />
{{Persondata<br />
| NAME = Vregille, Arnaud Courlet de<br />
| ALTERNATIVE NAMES =<br />
| SHORT DESCRIPTION =<br />
| DATE OF BIRTH = 5 March 1958<br />
| PLACE OF BIRTH = [[Bourges]] ([[France]])<br />
| DATE OF DEATH =<br />
| PLACE OF DEATH =<br />
}}<br />
[[Category:1958 births]]<br />
[[Category:Living people]]<br />
[[Category:painting]]<br />
[[Category:French painters]]</div>Drapé