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<p>82.24.117.210: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Navigation|name=IT giants|header=Major [[computing]] companies|color=|body={{nowrap|'''[[Vertical integration|Vertically Integrated Computer Manufacturers]]''': [[Apple Inc.|Apple]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Fujitsu]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Hewlett-Packard|HP]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[IBM]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[NEC Corporation|NEC]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Sun Microsystems|Sun]] }}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Conglomerate (company)|Conglomerate]]''': [[Hitachi, Ltd.|Hitachi]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[LG Electronics]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Matsushita Electric Industrial Co.|Matsushita]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[NCR Corporation|NCR]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Philips]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Samsung Electronics]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Siemens AG|Siemens]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Sony]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Toshiba]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Thomson SA|Thomson]]}}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Software]]''': [[Adobe Systems|Adobe]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[CA, Inc.|CA]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Electronic Arts]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Intuit]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[McAfee]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Microsoft]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Novell]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Oracle Corporation|Oracle]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Red Hat]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[SAP AG|SAP]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Symantec]]}}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Dot-com company|Dot-com]]/[[web service]]s''': [[Amazon.com|Amazon]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[AOL]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[eBay]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Google]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Windows Live Dev|Microsoft]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Yahoo!]]}}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Computer hardware]]''': [[Acer (company)|Acer]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[ASUS]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Dell]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Fujitsu Siemens Computers|Fujitsu Siemens]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Gateway, Inc.|Gateway]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Lenovo Group|Lenovo]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Quanta Computers|Quanta]] }}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Computer Network]]/[[Telecommunications]]''': [[Alcatel-Lucent]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Avaya]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Cisco Systems|Cisco]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Ericsson]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Huawei]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Juniper Networks|Juniper]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Nortel Networks|Nortel]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[ZTE]] }}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Computer Storage]]''': [[EMC Corporation|EMC]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Maxtor]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Network Appliance|NetApp]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Seagate Technology|Seagate]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Western Digital]] }}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Cellular Network]]''': [[Motorola]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Nokia]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Palm Inc.|Palm]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Research in Motion|RIM]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Qualcomm]] }}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Semiconductors]]''': [[Advanced Micro Devices|AMD]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Broadcom]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Fairchild Semiconductor]]-}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Freescale Semiconductor|Freescale]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Hynix]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Infineon Technologies|Infineon]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Intel Corporation|Intel]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Micron Technology|Micron]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[National Semiconductor|National]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[NVIDIA]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[NXP Semiconductors|NXP]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Qimonda]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Renesas Technology|Renesas]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[STMicroelectronics]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Texas Instruments|TI]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[TSMC]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[VIA Technologies|VIA]] }}<br /> *<br /> {{nowrap|'''[[Electronics Manufacturing Services|Electronic Manufacturing/Repairing Services]]''': [[Celestica]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Elcoteq]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Flextronics]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Foxconn]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Jabil]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Kimball International|Kimball Electronics]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Plexus Corporation|Plexus]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Quanta Computers]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Sanmina-SCI]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[SMTC Corporation]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Solectron]] -}}<br /> {{nowrap|[[Ultraflex International]] }}<br /> }}<br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;<br /> [[Category:Business navigational boxes|{{PAGENAME}}]]<br /> [[Category:Computing navigational boxes|{{PAGENAME}}]]<br /> [[he:תבנית:ענקי ה-IT]]<br /> [[ja:Template:巨大IT企業]]<br /> [[hu:Sablon:IT nagyok]]<br /> &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

82.24.117.210 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yamla&diff=57049905 2006-06-05T20:00:54Z

<p>82.24.117.210: changing heading</p> <hr /> <div>==Archive==<br /> <br /> * [[User talk:Yamla/Archive1|Archive 1]] (from [[Dec 16]], [[2004]] - [[April 17]], [[2006]])<br /> * [[User talk:Yamla/Archive2|Archive 2]] (from [[April 17]], [[2006]] to [[May 31]], [[2006]])<br /> <br /> ==2006==<br /> <br /> ===June===<br /> <br /> ====Skittles Lover====<br /> Hi Yamla.I am not a sock puppet of whoever that other user was but anyway thank you for welecoming me to wikipedia. --[[User:Skittles Lover|Skittles Lover]] 00:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Marking of 202.156.6.54 as a sock ====<br /> <br /> Diff: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:202.156.6.54&amp;curid=5129003&amp;diff=56320991&amp;oldid=56317988]<br /> <br /> How can a shared IP be a sockpuppet of any one registered user? I don't understand. That is the shared IP used by all Starhub cable modem users in Singapore. I have reverted your change because of this. [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new sg] 14:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== RE:Image problems ====<br /> <br /> I have now successfully (as far as I can tell) applied approriate copyright to the following:<br /> <br /> * [[:Image:2005-02-10-003.jpg]]<br /> * [[:Image:Parisalbum.JPG]]<br /> * [[:Image:18hilton.jpg]]<br /> * [[:Image:Paris carl.jpg]]<br /> * [[:Image:Pariswax.JPG]]<br /> <br /> I'm hoping to add these back to [[Paris Hilton]], but I didn't know if you could maybe point out anything else that may be needed before I go ahead and add them all back; as I don't want them to just be removed again.<br /> <br /> Cheers. :)<br /> <br /> [[User:Pazuzu567|Pazuzu567]] 15:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Edgovan20 and sockpuppets ====<br /> <br /> I think you have more than enough evidence to take this user's account away from him and block him permanently. Personal attacks galore, repeated edits against consensus opinion, inappropriate use of sockpuppets, vandalism, and a refusal to take the responsibilities of Wikipedia editing seriously. There's no point in playing his silly game anymore. If you want to take action I'll support you fully. \ [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] \ [[User_talk:Fnarf999|talk]] \ [[Special:Contributions/Fnarf999|contribs]] \ 18:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Fnarf, like anyone takes notice of what you think. oh how rude of me, i forgot to say hello. [[User:Edgovan20|Edgovan20]] <br /> ==== Thanks ====<br /> <br /> Thanks!!! [[User:Tcatron565|Tcatron565]] 23:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== MySpace ====<br /> I still need a clear statement about MySpace images...[[User:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#78866B&quot;&gt;Lajbi&lt;/font&gt;''']] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#C3B091&quot;&gt;Holla @ me&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[Snoop Dogg|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#808000&quot;&gt;Who's the boss?&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/small&gt; 16:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Ok I try my best to provide fair use rationale for them. Thus far I have left the logo-tagged pictures intact because the tag speaks for itself and I couldn't find any rationales added to other logos by browsing about 50 of them on Wikipedia. I have finished with 20 of my pictures already. [[User:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#78866B&quot;&gt;Lajbi&lt;/font&gt;''']] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#C3B091&quot;&gt;Holla @ me&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[Snoop Dogg|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#808000&quot;&gt;Who's the boss?&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/small&gt; 16:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Thanks ====<br /> <br /> Thanks for this revert: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMtz206&amp;diff=56515679&amp;oldid=56515464]. --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] ([[User talk:Mtz206|talk]]) 16:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Sorry====<br /> <br /> {{tfd|Smile}}<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;float:center;border-style:solid;border-color:blue;background-color:AliceBlue;border-width:1px;text-align:left;padding:8px;&quot; class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[[Image:Face-smile-big.svg|left|60px| ]] <br /> <br /> {{{1|[[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]]}}} has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{tls|smile}}, {{tls|smile2}} or {{tls|smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing! {{{2|}}}<br /> &lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- Template:smile2 --&gt; --[[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]] <br /> <br /> [[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]] 02:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Image deletions ====<br /> <br /> Hi there. I've just noticed that [[:Image:Arwen2Work.jpg]] and [[:Image:Arwen sword-2.png]] have been deleted. I can't rememeber what these images looked like or which articles they were in. Can you help? Also, do you have a link to the [[WP:IfD]] page about these images? It would help if the entry in the deletion logs had a link to the [[WP:IfD]] archive (if there is one). Also, when I scanned the history of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Middle-earth/Images]] I initially thought that you had only removed them from the gallery, rather than putting them through IfD (I don't have these images on my watchlist). It would be easier for me to see that they have been deleted if you leave the dead link there, and then a blank box will show up. Thanks. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] 17:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hi. These images were blatant copyright violations with no provided fair-use rationale. They were noted as &lt;nowiki&gt;fairusedisputed&lt;/nowiki&gt; and the original uploader was notified. No fair use rationale was provided and so I speedily deleted them as they were copyright violations. They were both movie screenshots. Sorry for causing you hassle. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Not really a hassle. What would be a hassle is if you don't have a way of telling me what articles those images were used in. Can you do this? [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] 17:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::These images were used in the articles on [[Liv Tyler]] and [[Arwen]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Ah. OK. I had figured out the [[Arwen]] page (obviously), but forgot about the Liv Tyler one. Do you think you could leave a message on the article talk pages next time, not just in the page history? Thanks. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] 17:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I will try to do so in the future unless removing a blatantly inappropriate image (e.g. one not even of the subject at hand), or if removing vast quantities of images uploaded by a person blatantly violating copyright and fair-use. Here, I'm talking about someone who uploads a hundred images of [[American Idol]] contestants, for example. But as a general rule, I will try to leave a message on the discussion page. In fact, I'll try to do so a week prior to the scheduled deletion as well so the OrphanBot doesn't interfere with the notification. Do you happen to recall the tag you can add to an image's use on an article page to note that it is in danger of being deleted? Do you think that would suffice? --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::Oh sure, with hundreds of copyvio uploads, I understand. But for individual images, it would be nice to get warning on the article talk page. It is very common for people not to keep an eye on the image pages, though they should really... As for the tag, try [[:Category:Wikipedia_maintenance_templates]], or something similar. I'll have a quick look there myself. And its fine to keep the discussion here. We shouldn't be much longer anyway. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] 17:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The best I could find was [[Template:Unverifiedimage]] and [[Template:Nonfreeimage]] - that last one looks quite handy! [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] 17:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think the tag I'm looking for is something like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{unverified}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; or something. I'll take a look the next time I need to add it to an image. And yes, you bring up good points. Looks like we are in agreement. Have a great weekend! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== {{user|Miss Ciara}} ====<br /> <br /> Why do you think this user needs to change her user name? [[WP:BITE|Please do not bite the newbies.]] - [[User:Ulayiti|ulayiti]] [[User talk:Ulayiti|&lt;font color=&quot;#226b22&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :See [[WP:USERNAME]]. Wikipedia does not allow names of well-known living people. Miss Ciara has specifically claimed she has chosen her name as she is a fan of Miss [[Ciara]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: I suggest you take this to [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User names]] if you have such a problem with it. I don't see any reason why someone would mistake this user with [[Ciara]], especially as her user name is '''not''' 'Ciara'. Besides, it's only a first name - disallowing this would be enough to ban most first names from being used as user names (especially if 'well known' is interpreted as loosely as you just have). - [[User:Ulayiti|ulayiti]] [[User talk:Ulayiti|&lt;font color=&quot;#226b22&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Fair enough, though I thought it was a pretty clear-cut case. While [[Ciara]]'s full name is well known, she is not professionally known as anything other than &quot;Ciara&quot;. Similarly, Madonna's full name is known but she is also only known by her first name. We would not allow someone to be known as Madonna on the Wikipedia. I assumed &quot;Miss Ciara&quot; would fall into this same category. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: Ok, no problem. If the user name had been just 'Ciara', then I'd have thought it borderline, but 'Miss Ciara' is all right by me. Also, the [[WP:USERNAME]] criterion requires the person to be 'well known', and I'd interpret that slightly differently - Madonna would not be an acceptable user name, but Ciara is hardly as 'well known' as Madonna. - [[User:Ulayiti|ulayiti]] [[User talk:Ulayiti|&lt;font color=&quot;#226b22&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Thanks. It looks like we have everything worked out. My apology to Miss Ciara was meant to be sincere, though, and if you think it sounds like I am hedging a little bit much, please do let me know. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== I Know ====<br /> <br /> I know what your talking about. But, I was thinking to hold off all the personal info until my book was published. So that's what I was going to do today! Thanks for the concern. [[User:Tcatron565|Tcatron565]] 13:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Processing ====<br /> I've done with 70% of the work. I've &quot;invented&quot; some fair use for the MySpace picture [[:Image:Julio G.jpg]], please have a look at it and tell me what you think. And here's a list of pictures I don't want to use any more.<br /> *[[:Image:Snoop we just wanna.gif]]<br /> *[[:Image:Nastackiremadream.gif]]<br /> *[[:Image:Sean paul.jpg]]<br /> *[[:Image:FatJoeWhatsLuv.jpg]]<br /> *[[:Image:Happy2.jpg]]<br /> *[[:Image:Strip .GIF]] (it was just my try if animated gif-s are working here, God, I was a novice then)<br /> <br /> Can you give me an advice on how the heck I can get a full and correct list about my uploads? [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Lajbi&amp;dbname=enwiki_p Edit counter] comes up with many errors...[[User:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#78866B&quot;&gt;Lajbi&lt;/font&gt;''']] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#C3B091&quot;&gt;Holla @ me&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[Snoop Dogg|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#808000&quot;&gt;Who's the boss?&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/small&gt; 19:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== You deserve an apology ====<br /> <br /> Well Yamla and others, I am sorry for my disruptiveness&lt;br&gt;<br /> Although I still think I changed the redhead pic with good reason &lt;br&gt;<br /> Now I intend to use Wikipedia properly &lt;br&gt;<br /> Knowing this, will you give me a break?&lt;br&gt;<br /> Every 5 minutes I seem to get picked on here&lt;br&gt;<br /> Remember what I said please.&lt;br&gt;<br /> So, as I said I will make good changes here from here on.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> [[User:Edgovan20|Edgovan20]]<br /> <br /> ==== external link ====<br /> <br /> Thanks for write your comments when delete my link.<br /> I dont kow very much about wikipedia.<br /> I hope make one big website with pictures and videos.<br /> No problem, Thank you<br /> <br /> ==== [[User:Gemini531]] ====<br /> <br /> Hi Yamla. I happened across Gemini's user page, and was intrigued by the &quot;kid&quot; userbox. I didn't even know there were people under 14 on wikipedia (14 is an arbitrary number here). It seems to me like you're being a bit harsh with her. Or were, maybe. I'm not sure if you're still watching her actions or not. She's a kid. Just give her some leniency, eh? &lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #008000&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ffffff&quot;&gt;[[User:Canaen|Canæn]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 07:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== IP addresses ====<br /> <br /> Would you please STOP blocking IP addresses as many people in a large region may use the same IP address. I know when I sign on I have obtained the same IP address and you have blocked it because of another using that same IP dial up address did something.<br /> <br /> Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing.<br /> You were blocked by Yamla for the following reason (see our blocking policy): <br /> Vandalism, fourth unique block<br /> Your IP address is 67.72.98.86. {{unsigned|67.72.98.87}}<br /> <br /> :This IP address shows no signs of ever actually being blocked by me. What most likely happened here is an autoblock, i.e. a block of a user, not an IP. However, I can find no evidence that this IP address was autoblocked, either, though it ''may'' still be true. In any case, there's no real justification here to stop blocking people who vandalise Wikipedia, particularly those IP addresses not marked as shared, and even if there was, this would be a policy change and should go through the appropriate channels. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Looks like you blocked it for 6 weeks: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:67.72.98.86]. (The IP address mentioned in the above comment, not the IP that the comment was left from). --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] ([[User talk:Mtz206|talk]]) 14:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ahhh. Thanks, Mtz206. That said, given that it was the fifth unique block (and sixth overall) with a previous block of a full month, given that the IP is not marked as shared, and given the large amount of vandalism originating from that address, the block was justified. The user can request an unblock by placing &lt;nowiki&gt;{{unblock|My reason for unblock here}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; on the page. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Fair Use Pictures ====<br /> I think I am finished with labelling the pictures with accurate fair-use rationales. Can you please check them and let me know if I am really over it? [[User:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#78866B&quot;&gt;Lajbi&lt;/font&gt;''']] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#C3B091&quot;&gt;Holla @ me&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[Snoop Dogg|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#808000&quot;&gt;Who's the boss?&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/small&gt; 19:41, 5 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Changing some pages...opinion? ====<br /> <br /> Hi yamla...im thinking of changing the pages [[fuck|Fucking]] and [[Wanker]], perhaps adding some examples. I dont really want to make any changes unless I have some support ya know. Well, cheers anyway...Ed --[[User:Edgovan20|Edgovan20]]</div>

82.24.117.210 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yamla&diff=56501171 2006-06-02T14:36:33Z

<p>82.24.117.210: </p> <hr /> <div>==Archive==<br /> <br /> [[User talk:Yamla/Archive1|Archive]] (from [[Dec 16]], [[2004]] - [[April 17]], [[2006]])<br /> <br /> ==2006==<br /> <br /> Hey sorry, wow I didnt even realise it was ACTUALLY editing the page, i now understand wikipedias ways. I should have used the sandbox or whatever you said. My bad, sorry.<br /> <br /> Yo.<br /> I'm sorry I wrote all of those things about the black eyed peas, fallout boy, micheal moore and Pete doherty. Oh and the kooks, but what I said wasn't false, that guy is freaking ugly. What the fuck. Emo sucks.<br /> <br /> ===April===<br /> Yamla, thank you for your comments. If I have valuable information or great pictures of an artist, why can't I link it to my webpage? I understand that the information should be included in wikipedia instead, but what about the pictures? Why can't I create a link to my own webpage, however I can add links to other's webpages?<br /> thanks for your response, I am new on wikipedia and I would really like to collaborate. Being part of the team of the Cannes Film Festival and the Monaco TV Festival, we have taken pictures of hundreds of important actors and I think this would really enrich the content of Wikipedia. (About Evangeline Lilly) April 25th,2006<br /> Thanks, Iliana from Biosstars<br /> :I'm sorry, Wikipedia policy dictates that it is inappropriate to add links to these sorts of sites to Wikipedia articles. Please read [[WP:EL]] for information on what external links are appropriate. You should never add a link to a site you run, which means the entire Biosstars website cannot be added by you. More generally, a collection of pictures, while a useful web resource, is not particularly valuable to an encyclopedia. Now, on the other hand, if one of your pictures can be licensed appropriately (basically, freely licensed), please feel free to add it to an article if the article does not already have a picture. Thanks! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was not nonsense as u suggested, i recommend that YOU double check before coming down hard on ppl who want to contribute lawfully.<br /> Check this out,<br /> <br /> http://entertainment1.sympatico.msn.ca/Celebs/News/ContentPosting.aspx?newsitemid=KP18040609&amp;feedname=CP-SHOWBIZ_V2&amp;show=False&amp;number=0&amp;showbyline=False&amp;subtitle=&amp;detect=&amp;abc=abc -- unsigned comments from [[User:24.43.168.82|24.43.168.82]] ([[User talk:24.43.168.82|talk]])<br /> <br /> :But that's not what you used to [[WP:CITE|cite]] the information you added. The citation you used was [http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue238/news.html this] which says '''nothing''' about her birthday party whatsoever. Additionally, the site you provide references the UK Sun and that is '''most definitely''' a tabloid and not suitable for a Wikipedia [[WP:CITE|citation]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====Suri Cruise====<br /> It was a mistake, I was kidding around and didn't even realize I saved it. Secondly, do people normally get &quot;last warnings&quot; as their first warnings? I have never been accused of vandalizing a page before. And, as far as the subject matter goes, I am sure there has been/is much vandalism on this page as well as on Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes' page, but i fyou look at Holmes' page you'll see that I was actually one of the contributors to that page being named a featured article. Though I understand where you are coming from, I hope you can except my excuse and I'll expect an apology as soon as you get a chance.[[User:AriGold|AriGold]] 22:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks for the apology. I was blocked once before (I think for one hour) for engaging in an edit war with a poster who 3 mods had been told not to do something. I kept reverting the article back to the way the consensus of mods had told the other poster it should be, so I actually thought I was doing the right thing. Needless to say, the other poster was banned for a while, but I was given a banishment as a token punishment for engaging in the edit war. I always knew that would come back to haunt me, ha. I was really ticked off when you gave me that last warning and I too apologize for being kind of mean with my response to you. Glad we worked it out.<br /> <br /> I ment the speedy deletion tag. [[User:Jonathan235|Jonathan235]] 11:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====RED HAIR====<br /> <br /> Wikipedia was having server issues, so I got the &quot;wikimedia server issue page&quot; after I hit the preview button, so I simply posted the update and would check back when things got back to normal. I am pretty consistent with my edits, so no worries. Thanks for being observant. --[[User:Cabanaguy|Cabanaguy]] :)<br /> <br /> ====RE: Vandalism====<br /> <br /> <br /> &quot;Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to [[Ciara]], you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Yamla 17:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)&quot;<br /> <br /> I just updated the charts! And I deleted unconfirmed information (The name &quot;Fever&quot; has never been confirmed) - that's no sign for &quot;vandalism&quot; ... So why should I be blocked?<br /> :You did not [[WP:CITE|cite]] your changes. You've already been warned about that and there's a big warning specifically on the [[Ciara]] page itself. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Hduff2 image====<br /> <br /> hey. I don't really understand...how can I make the photo right? ([[User:CENA LUV|CENA LUV]] 17:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC))<br /> :You claimed that the copyright for that image fell under the terms of the GNU FDL. However, you presented no signed statement from Maxim to this effect. Your best bet would be to scan in the letter you received confirming they have licensed this image under that license. If you did not receive a signed statement from Maxim, your next best bet is to take a look at the [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags]] and find the appropriate one. I am not aware, however, of any fair-use justification for using that image on that page. In other words, I suspect there's no way we can use the image without violating copyright. Image copyright is a tricky thing. You generally are not permitted to use magazine scans on the Wikipedia. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====thanks====<br /> <br /> Thank you for your help with the [[Reese Witherspoon]] article. Greatly appreciated! --[[User:Marysunshine|Marysunshine]] 22:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Why do we need a CITE to hear a pitch? I guess this is were I have a problem because like it or not, the entertainment companies are not packing them in to test their abilities scientifically. This is just one of those areas where it is easy to hear whether a pitch is high or low. I think nearly anybody can tell if a pitch is high or &quot;glass-shattering&quot; high. Sorry, just my two cents. [[User:Antares33712|Antares33712]] 16:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::We need a citation because Wikipedia has a policy against [[WP:NOR|original research]], because [[Reese Witherspoon]]'s whistle register abilities are disputed, and because you had already been requested to provide this citation on that article's discussion page. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====RE: Urban Myth====<br /> <br /> Sorry for that. Actually i have got scrap in orkut about how Mr. Orkut earns money out of orkut. I just like to share information with others. If you are saying that the information was wrong then could you tell me how Mr. Orkut and google earns from ORKUT. Please answer this, i am curious about it.<br /> <br /> ====Shattering glass====<br /> <br /> Hi there. I was just browsing and came across the article on [[Whistle register]]. I see that on the talk page [[Talk:Whistle register#Breaking glass|you commented]] (some time ago) about a programme in the 70s/80s where someone demonstrated the &quot;shatter a glass by singing&quot; thing. I wonder: could you be thinking of ''Think of a Number'' (or perhaps its sequel ''Think Again''), a children's maths and science programme presented by [[Johnny Ball]] on the BBC? The dates are right. And I think I saw the same thing :) [[User:Telsa|Telsa]] [[User talk:Telsa|(talk)]] 17:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====tool====<br /> <br /> the website is 99% english with some minor stuff in italian, and i added it under the fansite section, so it's normal for it to be a fansite. put it back :) [[User:Unixer|Unixer]] 15:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :As per [[WP:EL]], at most '''one''' fansite may be appropriate in extreme cases. There's already a fansite on that page so I don't think your addition is appropriate. If you disagree, though, please feel free to bring it up on the article's discussion page and I'll be happy to debate the merits. Thanks! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Sorry====<br /> <br /> yamla i'm brazilian and i have dificults in traslation inglish...my inglish is sucks but i try...sorry for image [P!nk]....is delet now....cause i don't put copyrith because i dont know how make it!!<br /> but i don't pratic vandalism...and please!!!! Stupid girls is #4 in uk charts no #2!!!<br /> thanks hooker<br /> <br /> ====My user talk page....====<br /> <br /> How is it that I can't delete anything from my talk page?<br /> [[User:DarknessProductionsInc|DarknessProductionsInc]] 02:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :The reason you are not permitted is because this serves as a record of what other people have said to you. For example, we can see that you've uploaded several images with problems. If you just delete the comments, it looks like there's never been any problems. Additionally, they are not your words to delete. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You should not delete external links some are good resource. --unsigned comments from [[User:Grace kalenda|Grace kalenda]] ([[User talk:Grace kalenda|talk]])<br /> :Some are, but you are spamming links. Please reread [[WP:EL]] for Wikipedia's external links policy. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Spore release-date====<br /> Yamla, you recently reverted one of my additions (or rather, corrections) to the [[Spore (game)]] page for lack of citation. You're probably right, my source is http://games.telenet.be/index.php?act=one&amp;nid=22377 which talks about the fact that both ebgames.com and gamestop.com have changed their pre-sale shipping date to the 1st of Feb 2007. Not really citable imho, so maybe it's best to keep the information as it is now. Thanks for pointing that out. [[User:Theroachman|Theroachman]] 03:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Deletion of account====<br /> <br /> Is there any way that I could get my account deleted? I just don't care to have an account with Wikipedia anymore. [[User:DarknessProductionsInc|DarknessProductionsInc]] 16:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Please see [[Wikipedia:Account_deletion#Deleting_your_user_account]] for information about deleting user accounts. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====re: Natasha Henstridge====<br /> <br /> No need to introduce that category into the Natasha Henstridge page, she's already listed as belonging to one or more child categories. :) --Yamla 16:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks for bringing up &quot;child categories&quot; to my attention. I realize now that the hierarchy should be sufficient. I've been adding &quot;Canadian actors&quot; to a variety of Wiki bios and maybe many of those should be reverted as well. One question regarding &quot;British Columbia actors&quot; category, which is where I actually started adding to actors/actresses categories. It's also listed as a &quot;child category&quot; so what is the best way to reconcile a &quot;geographical&quot; child category. Maybe that &quot;category&quot; should have been set up differently? [[User:Southsloper|Southsloper]] 08:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Checked out some of the Categories discussions - I'll read some more on those to understand it better and conventions :-) Meanwhile I'll stop adding &quot;Canadian actors&quot; and &quot;British Columbia actors&quot; categories until I understand the whole scheme better. Thanks. [[User:Southsloper|Southsloper]] 09:12, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====red hair====<br /> <br /> I have read your user page, but i do not believe that i have &quot;added non-sense to any article&quot;.<br /> I added this list: [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 15:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> May-Bee, but maybe it also takes a [[Cockney]] expert to proove that. I am not one. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I refer to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_hair&amp;diff=50879704&amp;oldid=50878952 this edit]. I'm sorry but it is complete crap that 'ginger' refers to the Gaiety Theatre on South King Street in Dublin, Ireland. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I completely disagree with this statement of yours. I read the edit, and under the gaining of information about the meaning of words, it has value. Please, stop placing your value-judgements on the edits of others. In this case, you're most inaccurate, and wrong. [[User:Zennie|Zennie]] 9:39 May 19, 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, I provided a citation that Akidd dublin was incorrect (though not here). The original statement on [[Red hair]] was correct, Akidd's edit introduced false information and was later reverted. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Nicknames for people with red/orange hair====<br /> *Tomato<br /> *Redhead<br /> *Ginger<br /> <br /> I do not see &quot;adding vandalism&quot; within this.<br /> The term &quot;ghey&quot; &lt;b&gt;is not scientific&lt;/b&gt;.<br /> I can refuse to spell a non-scientific term (within a official work contract, or something that is compareable to it).<br /> No one can be urged to use &quot;ghey&quot; in a non-scientific sense.<br /> &quot;Cockney&quot; is about, well &quot;free usage of language&quot;, but not about &quot;throwing rotten tomatoes&quot;.<br /> <br /> This is not meant personally.<br /> &lt;b&gt;I suggest that you use the discussion page&lt;/b&gt;: [[Talk:Red_hair]], &lt;u&gt;to communicate about modificatios of the article&lt;/u&gt;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 15:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :A related discussion is taking place on [[Talk:Red hair]]. I have no idea what this user is talking about with &quot;ghey&quot;, however. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It is an alternative spelling of the french word &quot;gai&quot;, which is abused in a non-scientific meaning as of present age (2006). Several references within IRISH songs do not mean &quot;gai&quot; people, but the originial &quot;merriement&quot;. It's not Cockney, but not worlds apart from britain.<br /> I can not proove if the spelling in the article is &quot;wrong&quot; or &quot;right&quot;. Definetively Cockney is not &quot;french&quot;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===May===<br /> <br /> ====Spam complaint====<br /> <br /> My apologies. I am no Spammer. I was merely adding links to a non-commercial movie review site that I thought would add value for your readers -- since the majority of the reviews are for seldom reviewed movies. I will refrain from future edits.<br /> <br /> :No need to refrain from future edits, just please do not add links that violate [[WP:EL]] policy. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====what is vandalism?====<br /> <br /> I am sorry for what was said, but i thought it required to improve the article [[Red_hair]].<br /> Later on, i found something which looks like vandalism to me: [[Aztec_calendar]] (at the bottom). The category information was removed.<br /> Removing information=vandalism! One does not always know, if information might be useful for someone, even if it looks &quot;bad style&quot;, wrong or unrelevant.<br /> Personally, i do not really remove information.<br /> An attempt to add data is not vandalism!<br /> Adding links to commercial sites (unrelated) is called spamming. <br /> <br /> I hope this shows i do not have an interest to bug people unneccessarily. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 08:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== What?! ====<br /> <br /> Hey Yamla, what the hell are you talking about, my friend? I didn't write anything about that crazy bitch called Hilary Duff? Maybe I have a dynamic IP, but I think the only thing dynamic around is '''your''' brain, azzhole! --[[User:200.93.196.236|200.93.196.236]] 14:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :In that case, I suggest you get a username. You'll likely get more warnings about vandalism if someone is using this IP address to vandalise articles. And in the future, please note that personal attacks are grounds for a block. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Merlinus Blocked by Accident ====<br /> I am new to Wikipedia, I tried to make an edit and it said I was &quot;autoblocked&quot; by you... whatever that means. But it called me by a user that I never heard of. Maybe it confused my AOL IPS number or something... please check on it and leave a breif message on ''my'' user discussion page. Thanks, MARC--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Unblocked. This one looks like collateral damage as I did not issue any blocks against that user name. Merlinus, please let me know if you are still unable to edit. If so, I'll need to know the exact IP address you are trying to edit from. Hopefully what I've done already is sufficient, though. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Still blocked: ====<br /> something about Havla? I dont know wwhat my exact Ip adress is? --[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If you are still blocked, I ''need'' your IP address to unblock you. Please try a site like [http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ this] to figure out what your IP address is. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, Yamla, but it's me, fellow admin [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] that you've got blocked at this IP now; I'm stuck with AOL for now and know that I'm not supposed to unblock myself, tempting though it is. Thanks,<br /> [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] 20:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Its Merlinus, You have done some wide amount of blocking of AOL Isp numbers this morning and caused a lot of trouble for me! Please fix it ASAP so I don't have get into a big hassle over this. Marc--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Okay, these users should be unblocked now. Sorry, folks, it was unintended collateral damage on a legit block. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== IP ====<br /> <br /> When I'm blocked, it always shows me what my IP address is being shown as, which is why I usually can get unblocked fairly well. There is a way to get into any connection to any ISP using the &quot;advanced&quot; button on its software to see what IP address is being used, but I think that it varies among ISP's and in any event is to much to go into here. Most users can probably get it from their ISP's tech support, but we both know just what a hassle that can be. [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] 21:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Jluv's sorry====<br /> I'am new on this site and I love it I'am sorry for what i did on the Ciara page thuoght it was fever because on the Kayne west page it says Fever I'am sorry. Next time I change somthing i'll tell you thanks.<br /> :No reason to tell me when you are about to edit something, just be careful to read the comments and not to change cited information without providing a better [[WP:CITE|citation]] for your change! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:15, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[:Image:ChloëSevigny.jpg]] ====<br /> <br /> I uploaded it, and placed it in the article. you removed it, citing it not being 'fair use' justification. I really could care less, honestly, but I was a little confused, since it is a press release photo from HBO for a new show shes on. Isn't that fair use? [[User:Cornellrockey|Cornell Rockey]] 03:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I still don't see any evidence that this came from a promotional kit, though it may have been. You are also meant to provide a detailed fair-use justification for each use. It's ''probably'' fair use, but not definitely. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That link I've posted as a source seems pretty press-kit-like to me, and as I said, I really don't care that much. No one else seems to have taken issue with my liberal interpretation of 'press kit' but whatever. Happy wikipedia-ing. [[User:Cornellrockey|Cornell Rockey]] 03:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Confused user ====<br /> You have written:<br /> <br /> Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Laura Prepon. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. --Yamla 14:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I don't know, what you are talking about. I never edited anything in the article of Laura Prepon. I never heard from this woman before. --unsigned comments from [[User:195.3.113.174|195.3.113.174]] ([[User talk:195.3.113.174|talk]])<br /> <br /> :If you did not make those changes then someone else using this IP address did. That is fairly common if you share IP addresses or are on a dynamic IP. As we know a vandal sometimes uses this IP address, I suggest you register a username to prevent your edits being confused with that person's edits. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====3RR violation====<br /> I wanted to let you know that I have reported your five reverts within 24 hours at [[Natalee Holloway]] at the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Yamla|3RR noticeboard]] for consideration of the question of blocking you under [[WP:3RR]]. You may wish to comment there. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 23:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== vandalism removal ====<br /> <br /> it is not required to reply. However, i appreciate your removal of ''explicit graffiti'' from the article [[Red_hair]]. It looks a target for such things.<br /> By the way i found an exact suiting template for ''some'' formulations within the article... have a look. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Ken Hitchcock ====<br /> <br /> Sherwood Park could be considered part of Edmonton even though it is still considered a hamlet and city due to it's size. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 2:45PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I moved your comments to Archive 2. Also, I put famous people from Sherwood Park. That doesn't necessarily mean they have to be born there. Take John V. Hicks for instance. He wasn't born in Prince Albert, but he did live there. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:10PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I should tell you that Archive 2 is dedicated to sports. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:11PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I found what I was looking for. While I was creating the Telus Cup (formerly Air Canada Cup) page I was looking for NHL alumni who have played in the Telus Cup. This is a link to a page which has a lot of NHL alumni that played in the Air Canada Cup. [http://www.midgetaaacanada.com/en/archive/championship/charlottetown_2006/nationals/alumni.htm Click here]. Now when you scroll down to the H section. You will see that Ken Hitchcock is listed as being from Sherwood Park. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 4:00PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I also found a profile of him that says he is from Edmonton. [http://cbs.sportsline.com/nhl/players/playerpage/20581 Click here]. Could this be conflicting? [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 4:05PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Tom Cruise info removal ====<br /> <br /> Excuse me, but you recently deleted my information that I added to Tom Cruise, because you thought of it as vandalism. However, all things i said ARE true. Tom Cruise IS 5'7&quot;, those jokes i mentioned ARE real, from mind of mencia, and he most certainly isnt a ninja. So please, put these FACTS back on.--unsigned comments from [[User:Soccermike|Soccermike]] ([[User talk:Soccermike|talk]])<br /> :I have no idea who or what mencia is but the jokes are inappropriate at that point in the article. As to the height, you forgot to [[WP:CITE|cite]] this information. Read [[WP:CITE]] to learn how to cite. As to him being a ninja, I agree. But virtually nobody is a ninja and we simply don't need that added to each article. He is also, for example, not a [[zebra]] but again, that fact doesn't need to be added to the article. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== My Archives ====<br /> <br /> I do allow people to talk on my archives. Just don't make a new heading if there is one already there. Just make a new subheading. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:14PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Hey, Is this ok? ====<br /> <br /> Title says it all... I just want you to check the Tom Cruise page to make sure what I put was ok.<br /> <br /> :Sorry, no. The fact that some television show makes jokes about his height is simply not relevant. It is not particularly notable. In addition, the [[WP:CITE|citation]] you provided for his height is not reliable. Please remove this information or find a more reliable source. Thanks. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Ase500 ====<br /> <br /> :I need your help. I'd really appreciate it if you could warn [[User:Ase500|Ase500]] for continuing to replace vandalism that I was reverting. I'm being threatened with being blocked myself by someone who has not looked at the history and who doesn't seem to care, while Ase500 is getting away with vandalism and with violating 3RR.<br /> This was his edit to [[Wal-Mart]], which started this:<br /> ''While it is easy to see how critics may come to this conclution, Wal-Mart did have plans to close this store prior to the union vote. Infact the union vote was a last ditch effort by associates to keep the store open.''<br /> :It violates NPOV, it's misspelled, and given that he has violated 3RR action should be taken. 3RR does not mean to not revert vandalism, which I did. Now all his talk page has is a warning for violating 3RR and a second for removing the tag. As it stands, they've made it look like I'm equally wrong as him, while according the the 3RR rule I've done nothing wrong. [[User:Kamikaze Highlander|Kamikaze Highlander]] 08:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'd really like your opinion in the situation. None of the other moderators seem to care that his edit violated npov and deserved to be removed, that he was pov-pushing or that, had I reported his 3RR he might have been blocked. Since the issue has been resolved, I'd like it if someone could remove my section of the 3RR page and the warnings from my talk page, since they give the impression that I did something wrong, while his talk page only suggests that he commited a minor infraction. Pov-pushing and adding misspelled opinions without sources, and getting into an edit war to keep that kind of statement should be considered far worse than trying to remove them. [[User:Kamikaze Highlander|Kamikaze Highlander]] 17:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Vandalism warnings====<br /> Hello. I've come via a posting on [[WP:VPP#vandalism_vs._edit_mistake|the village pump]], and on reviewing the edits, I have to agree that the edit you gave a vandalism warning for does not look like vandalism to me. Uncited, proably incorrect, but no indication from contribution history that it was not made [[WP:AGF| in good faith]]. So, while it was probably a mistake, but [[WP:VAND#What_vandalism_is_not|mistakes aren't vandalism]]. I would point out that your reply calling the edit &quot;complete crap&quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAkidd_dublin&amp;diff=50905057&amp;oldid=50900569] was not very [[WP:CIVIL|civil]]. As good faith editors can rightly get demoralised by being labeled vandals, I would suggest that the best thing for you to do would be to retract the warning, and please be careful in future not to [[WP:BITE|bite good faith mistakes]]. Regards, [[User:MartinRe|MartinRe]] 13:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hello. I appreciate your comment on Akidd dublin's talk page, that is over and above what I'd expect. I'm sure you're well meaning, and I know I'm just as fustrated with vandalism as I am, and I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. I think your apology was great, everyone makes mistakes (admins and editors alike). All, the best, and hope you're well. [[User:MartinRe|MartinRe]] 22:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sometimes i add politics, and it is O.K. to demand the removal of it. I do not edit here with promotion intention. However sometimes i run in danger of ''forest fires'', because i do bite articles/sections which display/promote, other, well politics. I do not understand everything myself. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I had noticed that you had posted a vandalism warning on a users talk page after editing the [[House (TV Series)|House]] and [[Robert Sean Leonard]] article. The Robert Sean Leonard article was brought to my attention via my watchlist. I do consider what the user was doing to the Robert Sean Leonard article vandalism. However, what is the difference between vandalism and experimenting? -[[User:Diabolos|Diabolos]]<br /> <br /> ====Link Removed====<br /> &quot;The links you added to the page Spore (game) have been removed. Please do not add commercial links—or links to your own private websites—to Wikipedia.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;The link I added was neither commercial or personal, but a free web and downloadable game bearing a fair bit of resemblance to what has been shown of the first stage of the game, Spore. I thought might be of as much interest to others interested in Spore, as it was to me.<br /> <br /> ====3LW====<br /> Yamal On the 3LW myspace the have a song called &quot;Do You Ever&quot; from there new album that could also be a possible single. Just if u wanted to add it. thank for reading this have a good day.<br /> JLUV<br /> <br /> ==== Red hair (your comment add to my talk) ====<br /> <br /> I believe many people relate queer to gai, but it is not very related (if at all). My interpretation was &quot;looks ginger&quot;, in a meaning of way of &quot;unserious and queer&quot;. People producing edits could use a dictionary. &lt;font size=1&gt;i have removed agressive info.&lt;/font&gt; [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> * This comment by Adkidd dublin is not English. The interpretation of &quot;looks ginger&quot; as &quot;unserious and queer&quot; indicates a fundamental lack of understanding of the English language. It's not just wrong, it's ludicrously wrong, like saying &quot;my dog has square wheels&quot;. Likewise, &quot;striptease&quot; is not &quot;completely gai&quot;, it is utterly NOT &quot;gai&quot; (or &quot;gay&quot;). The suggestion to &quot;use a dictionary&quot; is laughable coming from someone who has demonstrated no understanding of English usage or idiom at all. I don't know how to proceed with this; see his comments on my talk page as well. I would appreciate a word or two of advice. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It is called &quot;word clearing&quot;. It is not laughable. ''This dog has square wheels and looks like a spider'': [[Old Mother Hubbard]]. Gai means sexually flavoured activity for entertainment purpose. I do not need to use this words at all. If i see it, it is annoying. <br /> <br /> :::What basis do you have for asserting that this is what Gai means? I can find no reference in several dictionaries and google does not seem to back you up. As to the rest of that paragraph, could you please rewrite it? It makes no sense to me. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I appreciate your comments, however ''I'' dont know where are you coming from; people can misunderstand this as harassment (using dictionary=laughable), and you do not really know if it is asked for. If it belongs here. <br /> :::''I don't know how to proceed with this; see his comments on my talk page as well. I would appreciate a word or two of advice.'' - don't bother to delete unwanted info. i make ..., because there are Ghits for ''baking oven''.<br /> *Please look. I do not want to make a point, or to disrupt. Probably it is better to stop now. I do not edit articles, where this word (ga-i) occurs. I just thought it is not connected to hair color (which i like personally). I use electronic dictionaries myself. The rhyme about that dog is not addressing anyone. It is not offensive. Can we stop it. I have searched the web for &quot;baking oven&quot;. Probably Fnarf999 has done this too- before doing Afd for [[baking_oven]]. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 19:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== admin ====<br /> <br /> Just a request that you add yourself to the [[:category:Wikipedia administrators]] (i don't know if it's required?) or otherwise clarify the &quot;nominated&quot; message on your userpage. And thanks for the help reverting the icebergradio linkspammer :) -[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] 19:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Not ====<br /> <br /> I'm Not Trying to be Funny. I really do not know what the copying status is. And when you upload it it says This image might be copyrighted. And that's what I chose. [[User:Tcatron565|Tcatron565]] 5:30 08, May 2006 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Re: Toronto98 ====<br /> <br /> Hey, I'm at my wit's end over this [[User:Toronto98|Toronto98]] person. They keep inserting really ugly porn starlet pics into formerly tasteful articles like [[nudity]], [[breast]], and [[kiss]]. The images keep getting deleted for lack of copyright info, but then they add more. User [[User:Lalalulu|Lalalulu]] is doing the same, might be the same person for all I know. This is ruining the credibility of these articles as encyclopedic.<br /> <br /> Is there some process at Wikipedia for when someone keeps uploading inappropriate and copyrighted images? Would that be handled by Wikimedia? Thanks, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====My warning====<br /> <br /> I got three warnings for the same editing trip, im done, and I realize it is wrong now.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Octagon-warning.png|left|30px]] You have been temporarily [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so after the block expires.&lt;!-- {{blocked}} --&gt;<br /> :Very funny, [[User talk:82.198.250.5|82.198.250.5]], but that's a lie. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Why not delete it? It's not legitimate, and its only purpose is to prejudice people against you when they see your talk page. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 19:25, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I prefer to be conservative in what I leave on my talk page. Besides, I was kind of entertained by this one. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Sheesh. ====<br /> <br /> Get a load of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMichael_Savage_%28commentator%29&amp;diff=52485682&amp;oldid=52483363 this].<br /> <br /> I was just trying to make a point about consistency in descriptive standards, and I got a paranoid screed. My question is, what IS considered best usage on Wikipedia? I can't find mention of this issue in the MOS. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 20:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I strongly suspect (though I could be wrong) the problem here is that &quot;Jew&quot; is both a religion and a race, or at least is often considered as one or the other. It's quite reasonable to describe me as a &quot;British-Canadian&quot; (or would if I actually got off my behind and applied for Canadian citizenship). I'm quite comfortable at describing first-generation immigrants that way (and am myself a first-generation immigrant). It is less clear in the case of Jewish people, however. While it may well be relevant to discuss their religion, it is more difficult when using the term in a racial (not racist) manner. Certainly, it'd be reasonable to describe a person as 'Israeli-American'. I'm much less comfortable describing second- (and more-) generation people this way. Someone who's great grandparents came from Germany can't really be described as 'German-American' in my opinion. In this case, though, I just let it stand though I would never add something like that myself. Okay, so what about this particular case? Really, the best answer is whether Mr. Savage describes himself as Jewish-American. If he doesn't, we ''probably'' shouldn't use the term. It's debateable, however, as it is definitely significant that Mr. Savage identifies himself as Jewish. It may have something to do with liberals, democrats, and republicans. Personally, I'm just happy to live in Canada. :) --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Lucky. A friend of mine who's a trucker recently described what it was like hauling some freight to Canada. On his way into Canada, the Canadian border guards were friendly. ''On his way back into the U.S.'', though, he was bullied and harassed by border guards with way too little training and way too much power. I'd envy you, but then I remember that through the magic of XM radio, you folks up in the frozen north have to put up with our talk radio dreck, too.<br /> <br /> ::Eh. I guess you're right, though. If Weiner is so determined to hide his Jewish ancestry from his fine new friends in the blame-Jews crowd, then I'll let it go. I have to admit that I rarely do more than fix vandalism in articles devoted to him and other [[Ann Coulter|shrill]] purveyors of hatred. I don't trust myself to be entirely neutral when discussing such people. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 23:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====Naan Kadavul====<br /> <br /> I've asked this user to agree not to blank his talk page. If he agrees do you wish to unblock him? [[User:ForestH2|ForestH2]]<br /> :I wasn't the one who blocked him. He was blocked for forging signatures on an RfA. Please see my follow-up comments on his [[User talk:Naan Kadavul|talk page]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That's horrible. How long is he blocked? I guess he wanted supports....That's really bad. [[User:ForestH2|ForestH2]]<br /> <br /> :::He's blocked indefinitely. Really, this should probably go to a request for arbitration or something. :) I'm unconvinced that an indefinite block was warranted but I'm probably far too liberal on that topic. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Re: [[User:Naan Kadavul]] ====<br /> <br /> I wonder if the guy can be educated? Seems kinda unlikely to me, but perhaps I'm in a harsh mood. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]][[User talk:Jpgordon|&amp;#8711;&amp;#8710;&amp;#8711;&amp;#8710;]] 00:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====music videos====<br /> *why is it forbidden to add music video links ,many people have never seen some music vidoes ,and wikipedia is a encyclopedia for everything and for music videos ,too i think ,<br /> <br /> then you have to delete all links cause they ´re all spam<br /> [[Benutzer:Pucki]] 11.May.2006 (CEST)Central Europe<br /> <br /> :They are indeed spam. The links I have given you above will help you understand ''why'' they are spam and I strongly suggest you read them. Particularly, [[WP:NOT]], [[WP:EL]], and [[Wikipedia:Spam]]. Wikipedia is not a link farm. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====this discussion is not related to wikipedia====<br /> <br /> i am considering to remove the complete talkin which fnarf999 is involved.<br /> this is getting nowhere. <br /> i do not have to keep unwanted personal writing.<br /> [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)~<br /> I wuold like to remove his writing. He proofable violates several policies at other places. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, you '''do''' have to keep fnarf999's comments. You cannot simply remove his comments. What you may do is archive this entire page (I can help you do this if you wish). This would mean moving '''all''' comments from this page to an archive page, clearing this page, and putting a link from this page back to the archive page. '''Do not''' simply remove fnarf999's comments. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:59, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====fnarf999 contribution to akidd_dublin taklk page====<br /> <br /> I do not want him to put his personal opinion (which does not really anymore talk about an article) to my userpage.<br /> Do i have to keep unrelated talk?<br /> I am giong to archieve it then. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I have already answered this question. You '''must''' keep his comments on your discussion page, or move '''all''' comments to an archive page. This comments to you are relevant to your significant problems with the English language. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== what now ====<br /> <br /> Because i found it uncanny to have a geographic location connected to an user name, i am going to abandon it now. I find the user talk embarassing, and not-well-educated teenie-like. I had it in mind forehand, but now i am going to realize it. I do not have to suggest articles for Afd. Neither to scroll people's contribution. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 15:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. What do you mean when you say &quot;not-well-educated teenie-like&quot;? And do you mean &quot;before&quot; when you say &quot;forehand&quot;? I think you are saying that you are going to abandon this user and start a new user. That's fine, that is your right. However, you may be happier editing Wikipedia in your native language as I fear that the same problems are going to show up in the new user account. Another alternative if you wish is that we could take this matter to arbitration. This would allow you to state your case and allow a group of neutral people to give their opinions. I can explain this in more detail if you would like. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:23, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::not-well-educated teenie-like -&gt; When i see weak english [[superstition]], i am trying to make it better, and not to produce long, long writing. I have now started a new user.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ::::I'm sorry, that still does not make sense. --Yamla 15:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I did not knew red-head people are so picky. I thought the article in disrepair ''before'' i arrived. I am not willing to take charge on me. My current english is not that bad. If you believe arbitration makes sense, i do not know how-to, where, why-because-of. Someone clearly misbehaved. If he is going to edit [[matsuri]] etc., it may figure an incident (because no understanding of the article itself). When i write that i like red-head people, does it help? [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 15:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I do not have red hair, this is not the source of our disagreement. Our disagreement seems to be that you think your English skills are good, I think your English skills aren't good. You can read about the RfA (arbitration) at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. The goal of this would be to get other, neutral people involved to comment on whether I am being unfair to you, or whether your English skills really aren't very good. That is, whether I should just stop bothering you, or whether you should stop making edits (or make different kinds of edits). I can give you more information if you wish. --Yamla 15:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==== P!nk ====<br /> <br /> Yamla ...the chart is U.S. Hot Dance Club Play , no U.S. Hot Dance Airplay...and then is 21 NO 13!!!! you don't see right and can blocked me...oh god! is crazy! IS 21!!!!!!!!!!!!! --unsigned comments from [[User:Hookerj|Hookerj]] ([[User talk:Hookerj|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Please don't worry. We have a dispute on content. I will not block you while we are discussing this. Please note, though, that the chart shows &quot;U.S. Hot Dance&quot;, '''not''' U.S. Hot Dance Club Play. Should this heading be corrected, perhaps? --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:26, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Babelfish/Arbitration etc. ====<br /> <br /> Are you saying that you are using software like Babelfish to translate from your native language to English? This would certainly explain the serious grammatical mistakes and difficulty in understanding what you write. If so, please stop. Babelfish is not particularly good at translating. If you need to rely on this or similar software, please refrain from editing the English version of Wikipedia. If instead you are writing everything yourself (without the use of translation software), I still claim that your skills in English aren't good enough. But this is probably opinion that could be clarified by arbitration. --Yamla 15:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> :No. I am not doing this. I am not using ... to edit wikipedia. I am using it for various other languages. &quot;Please know it forehand&quot;¹ is a result i thought understandable within the context of genuine, native english. It is not enlish, however. The engines produce a lot of interesting formulations. It has nothing to do with my work on english language. I have read numerous biographies and programming manuals in english. I can understand television etc. I do not see it full of mistakes as of 2006. ¹I do not use it within articles. It has various meanings. <br /> <br /> :I dont want people to use any tiny link for a follow up of this. People please keep the writing three lines. I am not willing to debug my personal past here on wikipedia. Akidd_dublin has been abandoned. I had it in mind for weeks because weak ID. Now i had a reason. I never even displayed what Fnarf999 is working on. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== I want to get rid of fnarf999 ====<br /> <br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fnarf999#User_subpage<br /> He showed good will to be friendly.&lt;br&gt;<br /> However he should not police me. He is new here. I do not know how to put this to arbitration.&lt;br&gt;<br /> His user talk (talking about me) has nothing to do with wikipedia. I believe it is used for harassing links to an unrelated user account.&lt;br&gt;<br /> He is stating your ID (Yamla) within a &quot;Cabal&quot; case.&lt;br&gt;<br /> I do not want him building a gateway to my new page.&lt;br&gt;<br /> The purpose was to get rid of him, even if his speech has improved lately.&lt;br&gt;<br /> I do not exclude he plays a distraction game.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Probably he does more damage than good. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006)]] 19:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I believe you are saying that you want arbitration. I do not believe I am the right person to arbitrate here. You can bring the matter to arbitration yourself by reading [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration]]. However, I will start the arbitration proceedings tomorrow (too busy with work today), unless you tell me otherwise. I will list the goal of arbitration to be:<br /> :* To determine whether other people also feel your English skills are lacking<br /> :* If so, what to do about this situation as it relates to the Wikipedia<br /> :* If not, how we can help you get a clean start here<br /> :The purpose of arbitration is to resolve conflicts. The purpose is '''not''' to attack you (or to attack me or Fnarf999). As I said, I'll start this tomorrow unless you want me to stay out of it (or unless you start it sooner). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I have put this to village pump/miscellaneuos. I believe it is a bad example - what wikipedia is not. my blog is not full of mistakes. my blog is not full of grammar mistakes. it gets deleted after 7 days, and that's good.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''OTHER PEOPLE CAN SEE THIS''' and avoid to discuss that way. Nothing for ungood. This discussion does not belong here. I do not want links to my new account. Fnarf999 and others should try a personal blog. I do not get personal at my blog. anyone can read it. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WIKIPEDIA. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006)]] 19:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Another question! ====<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you again, but something odd just happened. An editor with whom I'd had a mildly pointed discussion attempted to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Puckmv&amp;curid=5036809&amp;diff=52905581&amp;oldid=52006110 edit] my reply on his talk page to reverse the intended meaning of my words, essentially attempting to paint me as a self-admitted bigot. I've reverted his edit to his talk page, but now that I think of it, do I even have the right to do that? Is he allowed to put false words in my mouth on his talk page, or could that be considered a form of personal attack (or even vandalism)? If he continues to replace my statements with fabrications, what are my options? Can I remove my comments entirely from his talk page, or would that be vandalism?<br /> <br /> This has got me creeped out a bit. The only reason I noticed it was because for some reason his talk page was still on my watchlist. For all I know, others could be doing this whose talk pages I no longer watch. What am I supposed to do about this sort of character assassination? [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:38, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> P.S. Please reply on this talk page only, if he's watching my page I don't want him tipped off, or to start harassing you, too! [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If he's really watching, he may be monitoring everything that you post. So he may see this anyway. But nobody has the right to change what you have written as signed comments on a discussion page (for an article or for a user). Although I rarely do so, it is an instantly blockable offence. It wouldn't take many instances of this for me to strongly consider a permanent block (though this would never happen for an anonymous IP). I'll often just issue a stern warning the first time I see it, though. The vandals are often simply children who don't know how to behave. As to whether you have the right to revert changes made to your words, you ''most certainly'' do. It's worth following up with a statement along the lines of: &quot;Changing other people's signed comments is considered [[WP:Vandalism|vandalism]] and many admins will block on sight. Please do not do this again. It is dishonest and easy to track down.&quot; Note that [[WP:OWN]] tends to imply that people can change what you right but the difference here is someone is essentially trying to fraudulently claim '''you''' have written something other than what you did. Stay away from legal threats, though; those are also an instantly banable offence. As to the more general problem, that your comments could have been changed on numerous other pages, this is certainly true. Most of the time (in my experience), the changes aren't particularly well done. And there's always the edit history. Still, it's kind of a pain that this can happen. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Kasreyn, please feel free to remove this entire section (your comments and my comments) if this makes you more comfortable. Alternatively, I can archive this talk page again if you prefer. I'm just as happy leaving the comments here, but hey. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Hey, thanks! I didn't expect such speedy and decisive action. Hmm, I don't oppose removing this section if you want to, but I don't really think it's important any more - being blocked, he can only edit his own talk page, right? Or is he only blocked from main space? Let's just leave this here, in any case. I'll also give WP:OWN a reread and try to learn more. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 03:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I believe he can only edit his page. I don't actually know for certain, though. He may be able to edit your talk page as well, for example, but I don't believe that's the case. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 04:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Look out ====<br /> <br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APuckmv&amp;diff=53086371&amp;oldid=52946567 Puckmv]'s going to make Wikipedia &quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/ Fair and balanced]&quot; ¬_¬ Here we go again. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 05:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm surprised you waste your breath. Politician818 seems confused as to why I haven't replied to his endless attempts at conversation on my talk page. His attitude, and puck's, are enough to know they aren't worth my time. By replying, all you're doing is becoming the target of more attacks. You've disagreed with them, therefore you're now a liberal conspirator like me; nothing you say will be believed. It's best to not even waste the time. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 14:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== {{user|209.221.73.5}} ====<br /> <br /> Looks like this IP you blocked for a week before is back and vandalizing pages again: <br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338333]<br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iran&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338165]<br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genital_bisection&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338001]. Feel free to deal with him. Thanks, --[[User:Kashk|''' - K a s h ''']]&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Kashk|Talk]] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kashk email]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Ciara====<br /> Why was the information I included to Ciara's article REMOVED? This is unfair. It is correct. Every time I add information to an article, I'm always putting wrong information. --unsigned comments from [[User:Charmed36|Charmed36]] ([[User talk:Charmed36|talk]])<br /> :As I pointed out to you, you must [[WP:CITE|cite]] your additions. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====[[Punk Rocker]]====<br /> Why did you say I added nonsense to the [[Emma Watson]] page on 5th May, when I thought that the information I added was perfectly valid. {{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 16:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :As I noted in the edit comment, you are claiming that the provided [http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue238/news.html citation] notes her favourite fashion designers. It does not. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I GOT MY INFORMATION FROM A VALID SOURCE! IT WAS AN INTERVIEW WITH EMMA IN A MAGAZINE. SHE MENTIONED THAT SHE LIKES HIP HOP MUSIC. {{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 20:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> By the way, why didn't you give me a 3rd level warning.{{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 20:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :Well, you can read [[WP:CITE]] to learn how to include a citation for this information. I did not give you a test3 because you had already received four prior warnings, some from me and some from [[User:RadioKirk]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====[[Reply to message you left me]]====<br /> Hi Yamla, I got your message about the Hilary Duff edit. I saw the page had been vandalised and so I went to the wikipedia page to learn how to revert pages to their pre-vandalised state. I followed the instructions and, as far as I can tell, I reverted the page. I'm not sure what happened to lead to your accusation of vandalism. That was not my intent. I would appreciate it if you would rescind my warning. Thanks. --unsigned comments from [[User:162.83.244.94|162.83.244.94]] ([[User talk:162.83.244.94|talk]])<br /> <br /> :This appears to be the case. I have removed the warning I left on your page. I suspected the vandal had simply switched to another IP address and was continuing vandalising. I see that this was not the case and that you were trying to revert the vandalism. I'm sorry for leaping to conclusions. Thanks for your efforts! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====[[slapshot10]]====<br /> I am very curious... why do you consider Planet Students a spam message when it: (1) is completely free for students, (2) was built by students, (3) is intended and does save students thousands of dollars? Why for example is [http://my-u.ca] on UofC page allowed? Did I post our link poorly? Please explain. [[User:Slapshot10|Slapshot10]] 20:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please read [[WP:EL]] and [[WP:SPAM]]. I cannot comment on [http://my-u.ca] as I did not see that link being added. It is entirely possible that that link should be removed as well. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[Vandal]] ====<br /> <br /> I believe this user ([[User talk:205.127.250.70]]) is a vandal. He/She has posted one comment, yet it's content is a clear attempt at vandalism. Furthermore, in his/her &quot;talk&quot;, he/she said, &quot;YOU ARE A FATTY&quot; when I stated he/she was a vandal. [[User:MichaelZ526|MichaelZ526]] 21:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[JasonBourne2007]] ====<br /> <br /> EWS23 and I have had an ongoing discussion regarding the House, MD wiki. Please make note of that before you revert my changes, which we agreed are acceptable for the wiki article. Please feel free to join our discussion on the House, MD article under article discussion. Thank you!<br /> :Sorry, Jason. I spend most of my time here removing vandalism and link spam and sometimes mistake appropriate edits. Won't happen again (well, not to you hopefully). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks Yamla. It's not a problem at all! If you ever need a MD medical professionals opinion on a wiki article, feel free to message me! [[User:JasonBourne2007|JasonBourne2007]] 20:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== {{user|70.251.128.3}} ====<br /> <br /> We received a complaint via [[m:OTRS|OTRS]] (Ticket number 2006051210001527) that you blocked a user at this IP. It is, in all likelihood, a dynamic IP address, and the user is no longer blocked. However, after reviewing the user contributions and your block log, it seems that the IP address made a number of contributions prior to May 11, and then you warned, warned again, and then blocked for copyright violation (1 month!!!!!) without providing the user an opportunity to respond to your warnings. <br /> <br /> I have unblocked the IP address. Please be a bit more careful. [[User:Bastique|'''B'''astique]]&lt;span class=&quot;Unicode&quot; style=&quot;color:#FF72E3;&quot;&gt;&amp;#09660;&lt;/span&gt;'''&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Bastique|parler]]&lt;/sup&gt;''' &lt;sub&gt;'''[[Special:Contributions/Bastique|voir]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; 18:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm sorry, I thought we took copyright violation seriously. The user had an opportunity to respond to my claims of vandalism (or blanking) (second set of vandalism occurred after the first warning, I think you are getting confused by the time zones), but was blocked due to blatant copyright infringement, not due to vandalism. Given that the user appeared to be a blatant vandal also committing blatant copyright infringement, the block seemed reasonable at the time. Additionally, my understanding is that sbcglobal (the user's ISP) gives out IP addresses on very long leases (that is, the IP was semi-static and unlikely to change in motnhs). I will enforce shorter blocks in the future, however, even for users like this one with no productive contributions. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Nude celebrities ====<br /> Thanks for the comments, though I fully expect my changes to be reverted any second now. [[User:Tregoweth|tregoweth]] 22:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Zennie====<br /> Greetings. There's nothing wrong with adding an external link to one's site if -- and only if -- that link adds value to the content. I think there's also a kind of knee-jerk desire to -- one the part of some &quot;policers&quot; -- harm those who have websites of their own. Remember, blogs contribute to the communication of information on various aspects of society. Please do not threaten to have one banned for adding content -- even if it benefits that person's blog. It goes against the nature of the Internet and in the sprit of that perspective such action will be met with an equal reaction, thus banning the policer. It's a little much, your reaction. People commonly go from one site to the other; it's not appropriate or sound to get upset about this common online dynamic. --unsigned comments from [[User:Zennie|Zennie]] ([[User talk:Zennie|talk]])<br /> :Sorry, the sites you are adding are inappropriate for Wikipedia. This has already been pointed out to you. I suggest you reread [[WP:EL]] and [[WP:SPAM]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yamia, your interpretation of the Wikiepedia rules is wrong and off-base. Not including a &quot;commericial&quot; website means you would have to elminate 90 percent of the links installed in this system, including very relevant links to -- for example -- a MySpace page. That's a commercial link. I suggest some training in Internet history and function, because you're not understanding of how this works and therefore present a danger to others - Zennie<br /> <br /> :A great many of the links on Wikipedia are irrelevant. However, commercial websites are appropriate in many circumstances. A link to Microsoft's website is entirely appropriate on [[Microsoft]], for example. Similarly, a link to [[Wil Wheaton]]'s MySpace page (if he has one) is appropriate on his page. However, these are special cases. Please read [[WP:EL]] to understand what is and is not appropriate. The fact that links are appropriate on the Internet at large does not imply that they are appropriate on the Wikipedia. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Again, I ask that you stop this rather pavolvian habit. It's damanging the free flow of information online. Moreover, you do this not in the sprit of Wikipedia's design, but in the need to satistfy only your view of the World. That's not right or good. --unsigned comments from [[User:Zennie|Zennie]]<br /> <br /> :::Please read [[WP:NOT]]. Wikipedia is '''not''' a link repository. Also, please note that new comments go to the bottom of my discussion page. Thanks. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In [[User talk:Mtz206#Zennie|response]]: Unless Zennie continues to post inappropriate links after your additional warnings and subsequent discussion, I would consider the matter closed. Up to you on the RfC, but it doesn't seem like a major conflict other than just dueling opinions on Talk space. If it ends up to be an edit-war, then that's a horse of another color. Nevertheless, I'll post another reminder of the policy on Zennie's talk page. (on the GU FDL issue, I have no opinion) --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] 18:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I haven't intervened regarding the GFDL issue, so there's not much I can offer the RfC. --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] ([[User talk:Mtz206|talk]]) 21:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Thanks====<br /> Thanks for this while I was away: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mtz206&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=54078427]. --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] 20:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Apple Intel transition ====<br /> <br /> um, why did you revert the changes? in article [[Apple Intel transition]]? Windows and Windowsing systems and Microsoft Windows are three diffrent things.--[[User:Mayz|Mayz]] 01:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I reverted your changes because, with the possible exception of the first case, it was obvious from the context what was being referred to. Note, for example, that you have a windowing system, not a Windowsing system. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::well, i actually dont see any harm in specifying what it is being talked about, even if you think that the context is clear! by the way , didnt change Windows XP to Microsoft Windows XP because i thought that the name and the context was self explaining! i ask you to revert your revert or at least revert selectively if you please (and if you see fit). sorry for the bad english but its not my mother tongue, and by the way, just for the fun of it, try reading the sentences with the windows as if they reffered to windows in houses and cars :) --[[User:Mayz|Mayz]] 02:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Reply to the message you sent me ====<br /> <br /> Ummm...every timne I try to do something, it's always deleted. Lot of other artist have song lists. How come P!nk can't?<br /> <br /> :At the time you added the song list and the time you left this message, that page did not exist. That's why it was removed. So long as you properly [[WP:CITE|cite]] the song list and format it suitably for Wikipedia, the song list would be an appropriate addition. At the moment, of course, that page needs considerable work. But once again, the reason I reverted your addition was that the page simply didn't exist at the time. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Okay. Well, I kind finished it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P%21nk_Songs- Hill03<br /> <br /> ==== Good Job Genius ====<br /> <br /> Another scathing remark from a moron who doesn't understand what a dynamic ip is. Next time keep your comments to users and don't go off the deep end with your egotistical cynicism. -Random IP ([[User:71.125.149.140|71.125.149.140]], [[User talk:71.125.149.140|talk]])<br /> <br /> ==== Peas picture deleted quickly ====<br /> <br /> Why was the BEP photo deleted so quickly? The &quot;warning&quot; template you added noted it would be deleted in a week. It seems to have been deleted immediately, though. Also, MANY other artists' pages include promotional photos (See [[Eminem]] for instance, among other groups and acts) so why wasn't the uploader simply allowed to include the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Promophoto}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template to answer the Copyvio challenge you made against it? Not a huge issue here. It wasn't me who used the picture. I'm just wondering. [[User:Nhprman|Nhprman]] 22:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Promophoto}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag was incorrect. The copyright violation was blatant, the uploader even claimed that the picture was scanned in from a magazine. Thus, I believed it qualified under [[WP:Copyvio]] for speedy deletion. Do you think I was incorrect? Do you think even though the copyvio was blatant, we should have left it in place for seven days? (That's a serious question, I could be wrong that copyvios should be dealt with immediately if they are blatant). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::You are probably right. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't catch the user's earlier comments and it appeared as if it was a staged promotional photo. [[User:Nhprman|Nhprman]] 02:55, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== PROD ====<br /> <br /> Hi, just to let you know I [[WP:PROD|prodded]] [[The Terror Mansion]] article by [[User:70%]] because it was written by a vandal user. (Incidentally it is written in an unencyclopedic style.) Cheers, --[[User:unforgettableid|unforgettableid]] | [[User_talk:unforgettableid|talk to me]] 16:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Monica Bellucci information ====<br /> <br /> You've asked me to site my sources for the information that I've posted on the Monica Bellucci Wiki listing... well, my reference to her Agnosticism comes from a quote available on one of the pages that I added as a link. And I added the link expressly for the purpose of varification of that quote. By removing the link, you removed my verifycation. The two sites that I added are not commercial nor are they my personal sites. Whereas the iMDB is a commercial site, charging for some of their services and embedding a broad range of commerical advertisements in their pages.<br /> <br /> This Agnosticism quote has also been posted on an iMDB discussion forum. It shouldn't be too hard to find. The thread is called ''Monica and Religion'' and the original poster of the quote posted under the username '''Ilana04'''. <br /> <br /> Also, as I said, the quote is repeated on a fansite for Ms Bellucci at [http://www.monica-bellucci.net/]. This is the best I can do to verify this quote, as it most likely appeared in a magazine published outside the US, and I don't know the publication or the date.<br /> <br /> As to verifying my reference to her posing nude in protest of the Italian laws against in-vitro vetilization, that information comes from several articles in magazines to which Ms Bellucci has given interviews, including the original magazine she posed for- the Italian edition of Vanity Fair in June of 2004.<br /> <br /> I don't know if this can be varified on line, or via the internet, but the issue of the magazine did exist in print at that time.<br /> <br /> This was also referenced in an interview that Monica gave to Film magazine in tendem with the release of her film, The Brothers Grimm.<br /> <br /> There was also a reference to this on a website called contactmusic.com in their news section, dated for June 8, 2004.<br /> <br /> I have all of this information right here at my fingertips, in printed form, but I do not have any internet links as I don't have my printer set to display headers and footers and it has been some time since I printed the articles.<br /> <br /> As to her appearng nude in films, I make those references because I have seen the films. The nude calendars a referenced on her Biography page in the trivia section on iMDB. There is also a site that has scanned images of each page of the calendars- [http://bellucci.utopiax.org/index.html Monica Bellucci Utopiax]<br /> <br /> I did not post any varifycation of my information within the aritcle itself because I felt it would look too cluttered and have an adversarial feel about it, as if I were trying to rebuff anyone who read the article and say &quot;here's the proof... so there !!&quot;<br /> <br /> I realize you will, most likely, remove the information that I have added because I cannot give you varifycation of that information that you can easily verify on your computer. But I have not posted anything untrue about Ms Bellucci. I can prove all of it, but only via printed hard copies of internet articles that have most likely been removed from the net, or from magazines that I have in print-form.<br /> <br /> --[[User:NilaLaniera|NilaLaniera]] 20:56, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the followup. IMDB is not a particularly reliable source of information and most certainly, fansites such as the one you list above are insufficient for [[WP:CITE]]. I'm sure the vast majority of your information is correct, nevertheless. If you could please readd the information from reliable and [[WP:Verifiability|verifiable]] sources, [[WP:CITE|cited]] appropriately, I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Full responses to this on [[User talk:NilaLaniera]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Macbook Pro &quot;Vandalism&quot; ====<br /> <br /> I changed the [[Macbook Pro]] article as the specifications of it has changed. It is no longer 1.83 / 2.0 / 2.16<br /> <br /> The 1.83 model has been discontinued AS WRITTEN IN THE MACBOOK ARTICLE.<br /> <br /> You can double check these changes by checking here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=925997E8&amp;nclm=MacBookPro<br /> <br /> Thankyou. --unsigned comments from [[User:220.233.76.24|220.233.76.24]] ([[User talk:220.233.76.24|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Yes, but the article is describing the MacBook Pro in general, not only the ''current'' edition of it. For that reason, the information that it was available with a 1.83 Ghz CPU needs to remain. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Cheerleading====<br /> Why were 66.82.9.87's edits reverted? It seems to me that a slightly more thorough discussion of cheerleaders' stereotypical status as &quot;sex symbols&quot; would be more NPOV than the blunt statement &quot;Cheerleaders are often viewed as sex symbols.&quot; 66.82.9.87's edits might not have been the best writing in the world, but it is NOT &quot;nonsense.&quot; [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 19:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Inherently point-of-view. The backbone of the sports team? &quot;...supercedes the sexual overtones&quot;? It may be true, but I have seen no evidence that this is how they are generally perceived, and some of my friends are cheerleaders. That change could ''certainly'' stay if [[WP:CITE|cited]] appropriately but it just didn't ring true. I've never heard ''anyone'' describe cheerleaders as the backbone of the sports team, for example. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I concede that the &quot;backbone&quot; line is pretty useless. I'm even willing to concede that &quot;supercedes the sexual overtones&quot; isn't properly cited--I don't know the precise citing rules (although I do appreciate the link in your message above). However, giving 66.82.9.87 a warning for '''vandalism'''? That seems extreme, especially after I took the time to read the [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] page. Bad edits don't automatically equal vandalism, do they? I'm sure that 66.82.9.87 was editing in good faith. [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 13:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, it looked just like petty vandalism. If you prefer, though, I'll clear the warning from that page. Let me know. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::That would be great. I think that these edits (on Cheerleading, anyway) are more of an [[Wikipedia:NPOV dispute|NPOV violation]] than actual vandalism. I guess my main complaint is that the writing was deemed &quot;nonsense&quot;. If the warning had been something more like &quot;This is an NPOV problem&quot; or &quot;Your work needs to be cited&quot;, then I wouldn't have a bit of a problem with it. Anyway, thanks. [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 13:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Done. Although that IP address has a history of vandalism, that particular problem was a NPOV violation, as you point out. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Just Letting You Know====<br /> I saw on the 3LW site that the CD is goming out on August, 15th so I'am just letting you know I might change it. please dont get mad thank you for reading this.(UTC)<br /> <br /> [[Category:Canadian Wikipedia administrators|{{subst:Yamla}}]]<br /> [[Category:Wikipedians in Edmonton|{{subst:Yamla}}]]<br /> <br /> ==== I'm so confused ====<br /> How did I vandalize pages? What did I do to Liv Tyler's article. WHAT? [[User:Shamir1|Shamir1]] 03:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In what way is Liv Tyler Native American? She may be as much as one eighth (though possibly considerably less) Native American but that doesn't make ''her'' Native American. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Vandalism ====<br /> <br /> You said: In what way is Liv Tyler Native American? She may be as much as one eighth (though possibly considerably less) Native American but that doesn't make her Native American<br /> <br /> Umm, I would NOT call that vandalizing pages, first of all. Secondly, take a look at the other actors in [[Category:Native American actors]]. Very few of them are full or even half. That category is just for actors with Native American somewhere in their blood whether it be 1/2, 1/4, 1/8... Just like under Irish-American actors, many are 1/2 or 1/4, but unfortunately there are more Americans who trace their roots to Ireland than in the Americas. That is why even actors who have a slight amount of Native American or American Indian heritage, if it is mentionable and has been, there is no reason why they should not be listed in that category along with the others. [[User:Shamir1|Shamir1]] 04:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I '''strongly''' disagree. Even Liv Tyler doesn't identify herself as Native American. Nevertheless, while I firmly disagree, I'll let your edits stand. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 04:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I've gotten in arguments over this before, and in general I think Wikipedia needs stronger standards on listing ethnicity of people. A lot of the ethnicities people add tend to be unsourced. But two in particular cause thorny issues, being Native American and Jewish ethnicity. For some reason, many people in America seem to fixate upon claiming Native American ancestry for themselves, usually based on a family legend that some great-grandmother was Native American. [[Vine Deloria, Jr.]]'s excellent book ''Custer Died for Your Sins'' puts forward a credible explanation of this cultural phenomenon, I highly recommend it. The other ethnicity that can cause issues is Judaism, because there is a great deal of disagreement over whether it is a religion or an ethnicity, and also because to some people it has become a loaded term. Do you know of any page that covers Wiki guidelines on including tags relating to ethnicity? Because so far I've been approaching it by the seat of my pants. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 09:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Licensing and my deleted images ====<br /> <br /> Hello Yamla,<br /> Thank you so much for your helpfulness! I have changed some details in my disouted image profile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scarlettj_vogue0405.jpg) attaching the fair use rationale for the file. I hope that it will be acceptable. Sorry about now having added it before but I think I simply missed this part when reading the text in the box under the image. Regarding my deleted scannings, another user had warned me that they weren't of low-resolution so I removed them. Please forgive me if I have caused you any inconvenience or trouble, I am new in this place but I will be more careful next time. Thanks again. Best wishes from [[User:ErikaG|ErikaG]] 21:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Paris Hilton Fansite ====<br /> Wikipedia allows one fansite link for a page. therefore im putting www.hiltonfan.com for Paris Hilton as external link. thanks. [[User:Grace Kalenda|Grace Kalenda]] 03:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No. [[WP:EL]] says, &quot;On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such.&quot; hiltonfan is a relatively new fansite and can hardly be considered a ''major'' fansite. Additionally, Paris Hilton doesn't really have many fansites. Finally, that information is in the &quot;Occasionally acceptable links&quot; section. The site is inappropriate. Do not add it back. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Another question ====<br /> <br /> Hi, it's me again. I just want to ask if I put the fair use rationale for my image on this page /http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scarlettj_vogue0405.jpg/ in the right place because I haven't seen the fair use rationale in other users' image profiles. Thanks in advance. [[User:ErikaG|ErikaG]] 18:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, the problem with this particular image is that it is '''not''' appropriate to use simply to illustrate the person. It can only be used to illustrate the publication of the magazine. In this particular case, it would be reasonable to use this in the [[Scarlett Johansson]] article if there's discussion about that particular Vogue magazine. You'd probably get by if you noted that Ms. Johansson has modelled for a number of magazines, appearing on the front cover of many including Vogue. This is a tricky matter made harder because the use of another magazine cover in the [[Naomi Campell]] article is almost certainly not fair-use. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Angelina Jolie ====<br /> <br /> I thought magazine covers were acceptable? [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Magazine covers are legitimate (provided you provide a detailed fair-use rationale, provided the title is clearly visible, etc.) but that image was ''clearly'' not a magzine cover (or if so, had the title removed, though I think I remember the magazine and it had an entirely different cover). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Could it count as promotional material then? And why do you believe that the lower back tattoo article needs to be deleted? [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::No, ''most definitely not''. It did not come from a promotional kit. It's a clear copyright violation. It's just a scan of an inner page of a magazine. As to why the lower back tattoo article should be deleted (and I only prod'ed it, not marked it for deletion) is explained therein... I don't think it is notable when we already have an article on tattoos. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Very well. But I am against your decision to &quot;prod'ed&quot; the [[Lower back tattoo]], because the main tattoo article does not go into detail, nor does it provide pop culture references (a section that I plan on expanding in the near future). [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I believe the [[tattoo]] article could easily incorporate all of the information in the [[lower back tattoo]] article. However, you have convinced me that this is not clearcut, and you have made a productive start on the article itself. I'll remove the prod and leave you to develop the article. If later nominated for deletion, I will reevaluate and vote accordingly. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Thanks for your patience. I will tag the article for clean up until I get a chance to edit and expand it. And in terms of licensing, what catgorey would [http://www.sunfyre.com/angelinajolie.htm this image] fall under? It has been featured in several publications, so I assume it must be under public domain. But then again, I know very little when it comes to copy right laws. [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Given that the page you list blatantly violates copyright on a number of other pictures included therein, I strongly suggest you don't incorporate that image. However, leaving aside the web page's blatant copyright violations, the page itself claims to be &quot;Copyright 2004 Jason Tweed and Sunfyre.com, All Rights Reserved.&quot;. That means (if true, which is clearly not the case) that the image would be copyrighted and in this case, no fair-use justification could be provided. &quot;Promotional&quot; can only be used if it came from a promotional kit (basically). Copyright and fair use is a bitch. Much of what gets used on Wikipedia is a violation, unfortunately. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Damn. Oh well, I'm at least glad I notified you before I wasted my time uploading another image. Thanks for your help [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 02:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== severina ====<br /> <br /> hi yamla, i recently came accross the severina vickovic article and IMO the last paragraph is POV and rather badly written. i ve tried to fix some things up but an anon would revert. i would like to know your opinion on the matter. you might find it useful to have a look at the discussion pg first. best--[[User:Greece666|Greece666]] 23:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sorry, I've been busy and forgot to respond to this one. I'll keep a closer eye on that article in the near future. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::thx for your reply yamla--[[User:Greece666|Greece666]] 02:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Re:Fair use====<br /> You placed a notice about [[:Image:Brazilinvasion7.png]]. I have had the image deleted and put a text box in its place for the article. Thank you for pointing out. Regards, --&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;[[User:Anirudhsbh|'''A'''ndy'''123''']]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;small&gt; &lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;[[User talk:Anirudhsbh|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 12:27, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS ====<br /> <br /> THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS FROM MARIA SHARAPOVA PAGE.<br /> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND REMEMBER: DO NOT DELETING MY LINKS.<br /> ALL OF THEM ARE APPROPRIATE. REMEMBER IT! --unsigned comments from [[User:Gooverup|Gooverup]] ([[User talk:Gooverup|talk]])<br /> <br /> ==== THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS ====<br /> <br /> THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS FROM MARIA SHARAPOVA PAGE.<br /> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND REMEMBER: DO NOT DELETING MY LINKS.<br /> ALL OF THEM ARE APPROPRIATE. REMEMBER IT! [[User:Gooverup|gooverup]] 15:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please stop posting duplicate messages on my talk page. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> A link on Nude celebrities on the Internet to a site WITH PORN IS MUCH INAPPROPRIATE. I'M TALKING ABOUT The Case Files of the Fake Detective YOU UNDERSTAND ME CLEARLY? I DELETE THIS LINK. DO NOT REVERT IT AGAIN! [[User:Gooverup|gooverup]] 15:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That web site is specifically appropriate to the whole subject of celebrity fakes. It has, for example, been covered in Wired Magazine. --Yamla 15:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== You're pathetic ====<br /> <br /> Don't ever send me another message. Also, Yamla, please look up the definition of vandalism, idiot. Freak. Seriously, you're '''pathetic'''. Oh, you're harrassing me, btw. --unsigned comments from [[User:75.2.177.121|75.2.177.121]] ([[User talk:75.2.177.121|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Vandalism warning was appropriate, your vandalism was reverted by three separate people. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[Nude celebrities on the Internet]] and [[WP:3RR]] ====<br /> <br /> You've already passed [[WP:3RR]] I suggest you stop and try engaging in discussion, further activity could result in you being blocked form editing. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]&lt;sup&gt;(&lt;font color=&quot;mediumseagreen&quot;&gt;[[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;)&lt;/sup&gt; 17:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, if you check, you'll find that I have ''not'' broken 3RR. I have made at most three reverts and in fact, the reverts were not to the same version of the article as I added a warning note about partial nudity. Furthermore, I have tried to engage Gooverup in discussion. Additionally, I am not the only person reverting Gooverup's changes. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: My mistake you've made 3 reverts. If you are the only one reverting or not is irrelevant, the rule is to prevent disruption due to edit warring, so trying to engage the other editor is the correct thing to do. I have also warned him. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]&lt;sup&gt;(&lt;font color=&quot;mediumseagreen&quot;&gt;[[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;)&lt;/sup&gt; 17:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I understand that and actually had planned to stop reverting for 24 hours. As to not being the only one reverting, I mention this because I believe my reversions would qualify as reverting vandalism, though obviously this is not clear-cut. Best for me to bow out for at least 24 hours which is what I'll do. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Yeah Poliwiki====<br /> Hey wtf I was trying to fix that website (wilmer valderrama) you should then fix that for me, he actually lived in venezuela since he was 3 years old (he later moved to miami), whatever (check that out in any website). <br /> <br /> &quot;Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Wilmer Valderrama. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox.&quot;<br /> <br /> I recommend you to take the time to write the warning message instead of copying and pasting the same sentence.<br /> <br /> You should get a real job. --unsigned comments from [[User:200.8.22.154|200.8.22.154]] ([[User talk|200.8.22.154|talk]])<br /> <br /> :You changed his place of birth. This is simply not true. [http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Lot/9547/urban.html He was born in Miami, Florida]. This information is readily available from hundreds of sites on the Internet. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Significant problems Respond====<br /> But these movies im making are real movies! And YouTube is the only source to release my movies! And I already released ''[[Chocolate's Web]]''! This is YOUR last warning. --IKR1 07:20, 27 May 2006 (PT)<br /> <br /> :Your movies aren't [[WP:N|notable]] and are almost certain to be deleted. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This dosent make any sense! Im trying to spread the word of my movies and the're up for deletion? What makes you so special to delete my films?--IKR1 11:50, 28 May 2006 (PT)<br /> <br /> ::First, as has been repeatedly pointed out to you, Wikipedia is [[WP:NOT]] to be used for advertising. Secondly, as has also been repeatedly pointed out to you, your films are simply not [[WP:N|notable]]. Additionally, they are blatant copyright infringements of the original movies. Finally, anyone can nominate any page for deletion. Of course, if you do so without justification, you'll be blocked. But as you can see, the common consensus is that these pages are not worthy of Wikipedia articles. Please go and read [[WP:NOT]] and [[WP:N]]. One final note, if you really are 11 years old, you are violating YouTube's conditions of use as well. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Unwarranted warning====<br /> <br /> You gave me a warning and i wasnt even rude? Do you like Fawlty Towers? I love the bit where Fawlty says &quot;You stupid stuck up toffy-nosed half-witted upperclass pile of puss!&quot;. Don't you? Anyway, thats off the point. Dont get my intentions wrong, I was just quoting one my favourite sitcom lines. thats all. --{{unsigned|82.24.117.210}}<br /> :This user was warned because of the personal attack made in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARed_hair&amp;diff=55267359&amp;oldid=55243691 these edits]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> I assure you, you got it completely wrong...that was not my intention. Oh, i just thought of another great movie quote from Hostel which goes &quot;you fucking bitch&quot;. I forget who said it, but it was a great scene. do you like the film, have you seen it? --from [[User:Edgovan20|Edgovan20]] ([[User talk:Edgovan20|talk]])<br /> NO! it was NOT a personal attack. Ok...get it right!! I was just talking about one of my favourite movies. Dont edit what i say. {{unsigned|Edgovan20}}<br /> :I have never edited any of your signed comments, only noted who said them. And to prevent confusion, no more quotes from movies in such a way as could be interpreted as a personal attack. They are either entirely pointless (a non-sequitur) or thinly-veiled personal attacks. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> How is it pointless? Its engaging a social conversation. I think you have given me another warning, and it is completely unwarranted. You may interpret what I say as being a personal attact, but you cant know for sure. You didnt tell me I wasnt allowed to have a conversation with you about my favourite movies, but if you feel that strongly about it then I wont. And yet, without any irrefutable or even substancial evidence I think you have given me another warning. I have the right to be innocent until proven guilty, i should think. Also, do you have a job, you seem to always be here. --[[User:edgovan20|ed]] <br /> <br /> hello yamla- yup sorry about that last comment...i guess it could be percieved as vandalism.<br /> <br /> ====[[Yellowcard]]====<br /> '''Hi, there!'''<br /> I saw that you've contributed to the [[Yellowcard]] page. I've been working hard all weekend to get it into an encyclopedia-worthy article, and I think we're almost there!<br /> <br /> There's a short list of things that still need some work at the bottom of the [[Talk:Yellowcard|talk page]]. If you could take a look at it, maybe add more things to do, or clean up whatever you see needs work, I would sure appreciate it.<br /> <br /> Thanks for your help. Have an awesome day! [[User:Cathryn|Cathryn]] 09:55, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====[[User:Gooverup|Gooverup]]====<br /> <br /> Thanks for the heads up. I was under the belief that removing warnings was vandalism, but apparently I was mistaken. Thanks again. [[User:Irishguy|IrishGuy]] 16:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Yamla...gruesome being ====<br /> <br /> ''This nigga think he hard'' {{unsigned|Cerealnigg}}<br /> <br /> ==== Prod of Rough Science Boys: The Movie ====<br /> <br /> Although the page is deleted ([[Rough Science Boys: The Movie]]) so I can't use diffs, you incorrectly replaced a removed [[WP:PROD|Prod]] tag, then erroneously warned [[User_talk:IKR1#Removing_tags|the remover]].<br /> <br /> The way that Prod works, is that if anyone (especially the article's creator) removes the Prod then no one can replace it, other means must be used. The remover is under no obligation to fix-up the article. Please familiarise yourself with [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion]], cheers, [[User:Commander Keane|Commander Keane]] 07:38, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :My apologies. I'll just nominate the article for deletion in the future. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== The image being used for the entry, Karima Adebibe ====<br /> <br /> Thanks for your message. I'll be honest with you, i haven't been using Wikipedia long, and I haven't got a clue what you were talking about in the message you sent me regarding image rights, etc. If you think it will be a problem, please feel free to remove the image or replace it with another one.<br /> <br /> ==== Bollywood Saga ====<br /> <br /> [[User_talk:Reaverdrop#Fair_use|Fair enough.]] - [[User:Reaverdrop|'''Reaverdrop''']] &lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Reaverdrop|talk]]/[[:nl:Gebruiker:Reaverdrop|nl]]/[[WP:SPACE|wp:space]])&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 16:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====IKR1====<br /> I've sent him a message, focusing on one of his articles in particular ([[Chocolate's Web]]). I basically said I'm willing to help him, if he can establish that the movie is notable. Which is true: if the article meets the criteria, I'm all for keeping it up and expanding it. I suspect the reviews/support don't exist to support notability, though, but maybe I played a card explaining why the rule is there and that no, you can't advertise your movie here, but you can have an article about it ''after'' it becomes famous.<br /> <br /> Although, I do have to say that I'd be mortified if anybody dragged out &quot;The Day of the Rubber Chicken&quot;—which I wrote in 8th or 9th grade—and did a critical analysis of it, so I'm rather happy it doesn't and never will have an article. :) —'''[[User:Cfred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:Cfred|talk]]) 23:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> =====...and rubber chickens=====<br /> Do you find it as curious as I do that after [[User_talk:IKR1#Chocolate.27s_Web_notability_assertions|my talk message]] to try to help IKR1, he invoked a rubber chicken in his latest addition? Given that it's something that I brought up in my comment to him, it just seems more than a coincidence.... —'''[[User:Cfred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:Cfred|talk]]) 17:36, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, he's taken indirect shots at me in the past. At least this shows he is probably ''reading'' the messages we leave him. I ended up blocking him for 24 hours today for his behaviour. I was sad, though, as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christopher_Reeve&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=55954270 his edit] immediately beforehand looked to be a good quality addition. Maybe once all these non-notable articles are deleted, IKR1 will become a quality editor. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Re: African American====<br /> Opps! I just read that message,sorry but I always correct it.But, Wikipedia says &quot;'''FEEL FREE TO EDIT A PAGE'''&quot;.If you can explain your explanation '''PLEASE''', write back to me on my disscusion page.'''Thanks'''!<br /> <br /> P.S.no offence.really.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]] 01:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Re: Revision deletion ====<br /> <br /> I saw your note on ANI about needing to delete personal information, and from looking at the oversight log, it doesn't look like it was done. If you'll point out the revision that needs to be removed, either on my talk page or by email, I'll pull it from the history. &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana&quot;&gt;[[User:Essjay|&lt;font color=&quot;#7b68ee&quot;&gt;'''Essjay'''&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;font color=&quot;#7b68ee&quot;&gt;(&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Essjay|&lt;font color=&quot;#7b68ee&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/font&gt;]] • [[User:Essjay/Contact|&lt;font color=&quot;#7b68ee&quot;&gt;Connect&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 08:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Re: Fairuse====<br /> Can you stop messing with my user page please?If there is a problem,please e-mail me and I will surely fix it or act you about the problem.'''Thanks''' AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TELLING ME THE PROBLEMS.sORRY,i HAVE THE CAPS ON.<br /> <br /> [[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]] 21:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It does not [[WP:OWN|belong to you]], but I will just tell you about the problem in the future rather than correcting it and then telling you. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, but I don't argee.If we both look at the TOP of our page,across it says &quot;(your username here), my talk, my preferences ,my watchlist, my contributions and log out&quot;. You see it, I see it every user sees it, we're done.In the last messages, I tried to stay nice, but you are getting on MY nerves.I have sensetive nerves so can you please stop any e-mails? Don't mean to be mail but that's how I roll.Peace out,A-town.<br /> <br /> P.S., Just trying to prove my point and also make it easy for you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]] 22:34, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm sorry, you are wrong. Please check [[WP:OWN]], as previously requested, which is the official policy. While you may own your contributions, you do '''not''' own the userpage itself. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Please note that I believe I have ''never'' e-mailed you to the best of my knowledge. I have, of course, left messages on your discussion page as I am allowed to do, but that is entirely different from emailing you. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Re:African American====<br /> <br /> Why can't I change it to African American if it's true?Prove that! <br /> <br /> P.S. Every since I changed one thing that was right,you tried to pick a fight and change it.Please just let the moderators and editor change it.Just to prove THAT point, I'll put it on the discussion page on the topic 'African American'.check it out in about 5-10 minutes.Be there. {{unsigned|Gemini531}}<br /> <br /> :You '''can''' change it to African American but as I have asked you before, please '''link''' to [[African American]]. Please do '''not''' link to [[United States]]. It is misleading. As to the rest of your comment here in the P.S., I'm sorry but I cannot understand your English. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Please point me directly to your comments. I have been monitoring [[African American]] and your contributions for several hours and it appears that you have not added this discussion. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Who the fuck cares if you have been monoring?and i also don't care about the violations. like I'm afaid of you.I can make a new account and i don't fucking care if irt's the rule.<br /> You can report me.gay bitch<br /> <br /> [[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]] 22:19, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Laura San Giacomo's breasts====<br /> <br /> Hi Yamla, apparently, that trivia note in regards to Laura San Giacomo's breasts needs to be cited. I can citate at least one portion of the note. If you visit the link below, an old UseNet discussion recaps an episode of Howard Stern's Show from 1999. They said that the ''National Enquirer'' said that JSM producers asked Laura to wear tighter bras in an effort to keep her breasts from jiggling around so much.<br /> <br /> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.pro-wrestling/browse_thread/thread/ed7cd7687ad0c600/62d26d83abb9bb87?lnk=st&amp;q=laura+san+giacomo+sable&amp;rnum=3&amp;hl=en#62d26d83abb9bb87<br /> <br /> In regards to NBC officials frowning upon her large bustline, I got that bit of info from a person &quot;in the know&quot; about Just Shoot Me back in 2003 on the sonypictures.com JSM message board when someone asked as to why she didn't showcase her large breasts more on the show, especially since breasts equal ratings. Unfortunately, the board had since been deleted. I'm guessing that bit of info won't be able to make the page unless I can get a proper citation, which I can't.<br /> <br /> As far as her choice of bras, it is been quite obvious that she would often wear a minimizer bra on JSM, even in public. Unfortunately, I can't get a proper citation. Although, I can show you a picture at the link below in which it appears to be obvious.<br /> <br /> http://i2.tinypic.com/11a8j6w.jpg<br /> <br /> Basically, what she does is that her bra will &quot;flatten&quot; her breasts, and then it will try and spread her breasts upwards for the most part, thus forming a cute little bit of cleavage. There's no way she'd get her cleavage naturally like that without one. It seems to me that Laura would prefer to show a hint of cleavage as opposed to having her breasts practically ripping at the seams in a regular bra because they're so large. Also, the minimizer bra is most effective when she's wearing a top with no plunging neck line and thus she simply appears to be much flatter as her breasts are spreading all over her torso unbeknownst to people looking at her. -- 69.138.174.91 23:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == RE:Images ==<br /> I plan to do so. [[User:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#78866B&quot;&gt;Lajbi&lt;/font&gt;''']] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#C3B091&quot;&gt;Holla @ me&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[Snoop Dogg|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#808000&quot;&gt;Who's the boss?&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/small&gt; 23:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I will be in a need of some more guidance. Apparently I have 144 image uploads (though the counter still disfunctions), from those I have major uploads from the following categories:<br /> :*Company Logos: Do we need other rationale than the ''logo-tag'' if it is used in the own wikipage of the company?<br /> :*Album/single/DVD covers: Do we need other rationale than the ''whatevercover-tag'' if it is used in the own wikipage of the musical release? If they are used within the artist's page then what is the generally accepted reason of use? In case of [[:Image:Da Brat.jpg]] I'm about to change it into a screenshot. See next point.<br /> :*Screenshots: Ok I want to clear that up with a commonly used rationale disclaimer. Are [[:Image:Bilal.jpg]] and [[:Image:Sean paul.jpg]] rationales fair enough?<br /> :*Posters: Is the ''promotional-tag'' enough? Can it be only used for the material advertised, or anything that is represented in the artwork? For example for an &quot;Album coming out dd-mm-yy&quot; promo poster fits the requirements to be put into the artist's article or solely for the album or neither or both?<br /> :*If you wish I can collect the orphaned images (that I don't want to use anymore) for you for deletion. So what do you think? [[User:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#78866B&quot;&gt;Lajbi&lt;/font&gt;''']] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#C3B091&quot;&gt;Holla @ me&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[Snoop Dogg|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#808000&quot;&gt;Who's the boss?&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/small&gt; 13:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :PS.:What is the official status of MySpace images?<br /> <br /> ::Responded on user's talk page. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Here I am again. For [[:Image:Da Brat.jpg]] I meant to say that ''I will change it'' by uploading a new one under the same name that will be a screenshot, because that would be easier to prove its relevancy on the artist page rather than an album cover (the current one).&lt;br&gt;For MySpace I found this:<br /> <br /> :::'''By displaying or publishing (&quot;posting&quot;) any Content, messages, text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, profiles, works of authorship, or any other materials (collectively, &quot;Content&quot;) on or through the Services, you hereby grant to MySpace.com, a non-exclusive, fully-paid and royalty-free, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense through unlimited levels of sublicensees) to use, copy, modify, adapt, translate, publicly perform, publicly display, store, reproduce, transmit, and distribute such Content on and through the Services'''. This license will terminate at the time you remove such Content from the Services. You represent and warrant that: (i) you own the Content posted by you on or through the Services or otherwise have the right to grant the license set forth in this section, and (ii) the posting of your Content on or through the Services does not violate the privacy rights, publicity rights, copyrights, contract rights or any other rights of any person. You agree to pay for all royalties, fees, and any other monies owing any person by reason of any Content posted by you to or through the Services.<br /> <br /> :::Does it mean that we can use it too, or just MySpace has the right to do so. It says the uploader frees all the rights for the photos, and by automatically putting it into the photos section MySpace trasmits it to site visitors. [[User:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#78866B&quot;&gt;Lajbi&lt;/font&gt;''']] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Lajbi|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#C3B091&quot;&gt;Holla @ me&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[Snoop Dogg|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#808000&quot;&gt;Who's the boss?&lt;/font&gt;''']]&lt;/small&gt; 23:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ==== Images question ====<br /> <br /> Apparently the user [[user:Bluebanta|Bluebanta]] has 100% image deletion... or something like that. Should the article [[Battle Angel Alita]] be reverted to before his image changes regardless of actual legality? [[User:Showdown|Showdown]] 06:51, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== 3rr ====<br /> <br /> Hi. Thanks for helping out on 3RR... always a lot to do. You asked someone to check re User:Rtvl73... I just did, fine. You also asked if 12h was too much for a first offence... tricky question. I give anywhere from a warning (if no one else has) to 3h to 8h to 12h to 24h for a first offence, based on whim, caprice, how severe, whether good faith or not... its hard to tell [[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] 21:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'd like to say thanks too, the backlog is getting cleared up. This one was missed though:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR#User:Zer0faults_reported_by_User:Mr._Tibbs] -- [[User:Mr. Tibbs|Mr. Tibbs]] 05:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====User:Rtvl73====<br /> Back from his block, he has changed the wording at least once (there is an IP edit with the same precise revert). He has not come to the talk page. -- [[User:Jeff3000|Jeff3000]] 22:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Re: African American====<br /> <br /> Check out the african American page.And i understand you hate black people!<br /> <br /> [[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]] 22:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This personal attack is unwarranted and blatantly untrue. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:30, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::This user was warned by another admin for making these unfounded personal attacks on me. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Skittles Lover====<br /> Hi Yamla.I am not a sock puppet of whoever that other user was but anyway thank you for welecoming me to wikipedia. --[[User:Skittles Lover|Skittles Lover]] 00:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Marking of 202.156.6.54 as a sock ==<br /> <br /> Diff: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:202.156.6.54&amp;curid=5129003&amp;diff=56320991&amp;oldid=56317988]<br /> <br /> How can a shared IP be a sockpuppet of any one registered user? I don't understand. That is the shared IP used by all Starhub cable modem users in Singapore. I have reverted your change because of this. [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new sg] 14:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == RE:Image problems ==<br /> <br /> I have now successfully (as far as I can tell) applied approriate copyright to the following:<br /> <br /> * [[:Image:2005-02-10-003.jpg]]<br /> * [[:Image:Parisalbum.JPG]]<br /> * [[:Image:18hilton.jpg]]<br /> * [[:Image:Paris carl.jpg]]<br /> * [[:Image:Pariswax.JPG]]<br /> <br /> I'm hoping to add these back to [[Paris Hilton]], but I didn't know if you could maybe point out anything else that may be needed before I go ahead and add them all back; as I don't want them to just be removed again.<br /> <br /> Cheers. :)<br /> <br /> [[User:Pazuzu567|Pazuzu567]] 15:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edgovan20 and sockpuppets ==<br /> <br /> I think you have more than enough evidence to take this user's account away from him and block him permanently. Personal attacks galore, repeated edits against consensus opinion, inappropriate use of sockpuppets, vandalism, and a refusal to take the responsibilities of Wikipedia editing seriously. There's no point in playing his silly game anymore. If you want to take action I'll support you fully. \ [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] \ [[User_talk:Fnarf999|talk]] \ [[Special:Contributions/Fnarf999|contribs]] \ 18:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Fnarf, like anyone takes notice of what you think. oh how rude of me, i forgot to say hello. [[User:Edgovan20|Edgovan20]] <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thanks!!! [[User:Tcatron565|Tcatron565]] 23:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Octagon-warning.png|left|30px]] You have been temporarily [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so after the block expires.&lt;!-- {{blocked}} --&gt;</div>

82.24.117.210 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Red_hair&diff=56500716 2006-06-02T14:33:36Z

<p>82.24.117.210: </p> <hr /> <div>Previous discussions are archived here:<br /> <br /> *[[Talk:Red hair/Archive 1]]<br /> <br /> -----<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Martha Stewart show bit==<br /> <br /> I took out a paragraph describing a Martha Stewart show on redheads, as I don't think it added anything. Someone else disagreed and put it back - fair enough. But it's also (IHMO) poorly written at the moment. Would someone care to try to improve it? [[User:Ocicat|Ocicat]] 19:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==East Asian red-tinted hair==<br /> Numerous people I know with Chinese/Japanese/Korean origin have NATURAL red tint to their jet-black (from afar) hair. Is this a variant of &quot;the ginger gene&quot; or some other cause? It seems that most (Northern Mongoloids) have a red tint in their hair, naturally, in my experience. I am aware of the popular practice of dying hair a red tint in Asian countries, but many people have this naturally. Additional info? Shoudl this be added to the article? [[User:Chilledsunshine|Chilledsunshine]] 21:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, especially a good picture. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 09:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 红须绿眼 ==<br /> <br /> theres also a chinese saying, refering to western people. 红须绿眼 {{unsigned|Chinoiserie}}<br /> <br /> :What does that translate as? [[User:Hbackman|Hbackman]] 06:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Google translates it as &quot;Red to green eyes.&quot;--[[User:Gandalfe|Gandalfe]] 17:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> red beard green eyes {{unsigned|Chinoiserie}}<br /> <br /> ==Muhammad==<br /> It is not only white-history that claims that muhammad had red-hair, other sources also maintain that he did, Martin Lings for example. Von Scherwins work contains most of the informataion on this. {{unsigned|203.82.48.54}}<br /> <br /> :&quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_hair&amp;diff=44221674&amp;oldid=44175969 According to some sources]&quot; is easy to justify with &quot;some&quot; [[Wikipedia:Cite sources|references]]. A Google search for &quot;[[Martin Lings]]&quot; + &quot;[[red hair]]&quot; + various spellings of [[Muhammad]] comes up with '''[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;q=Mohammed++%7C+muhammad+%22red+hair%22+%22martin+lings%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta= eight]''' unique hits, none of which corroborate this claim.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Chocolateboy|chocolateboy]] 00:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Apparently there are hadith (narration about the life of Mohammed) that say he had red hair in his beard, but that's all. See [[Talk:Muhammad#Hair Colour|Talk:Muhammad]] {{unsigned|83.104.185.49}}<br /> <br /> He was supposed to have used henna, so you'd have to be clear on what his real hair color was supposed to have been. [[User:Schizombie|Esquizombi]] 16:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Africans ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Red hair also occurs amongst people of African descent; famous African-American redheads include Malcolm X.&quot;<br /> <br /> Whoaa- Malcolm X attributed his red hair to the fact that his grandmother (or great grandmother?) was raped by her Scottish owner. Don't quote me on that because I don't have his autobiography with me here. But I asked about that on the Malcolm X entry and someone confirmed that is in his autobigraphy. My point is - Is there ever red hair in black people from Africa that are not mixed race? Also, that is kind of a loaded sentence. I don't think you could just leave it the way it is without an explanation. IMHO --[[User:CDA|cda]] 17:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gingerphobia? Redophile? ==<br /> <br /> Can someone put some kind of reference up for those terms? They seem awfully unencyclopedic and made up.<br /> <br /> They are certainly not scientific. While &quot;gingerphobia&quot; is quoted (without attribution), &quot;redophile&quot; is treated as an established term. Seems more like a pun on the word &quot;paedophile&quot; to me. -- [[User:Ashmodai|Ashmodai]] 07:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The [[Catherine Tate]] episode includes the line, &quot;the police are some of the most gingerphobic people in society&quot; (2x01). Also see [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1999/02/99/e-cyclopedia/686977.stm]. Dunno about &quot;redophile&quot;.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Chocolateboy|chocolateboy]] 22:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's picky, somehow. I have seen ginger-head police-people myself here in dublin, ireland, more than once. What's true is the superstition about redhead, barefoot woman (in the middle age): you must cross your fingers then. If it is a redhead boy, you must spit out. If he does, then you are bewitched for that day. At own sites, i have the freedom to tell people things which are not completely true (but they contain some truth). If you see a redhead person, that's also good luck. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 08:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Australian info ==<br /> <br /> i added some info from Australia i thought should be on there about the word Wranger before another Australian beat me to it!<br /> <br /> == Offensive ==<br /> <br /> I removed the reference to ginger minger as it is deeply offensive, probably racist and no longer &quot;part of popular culture&quot;. It never was. Redheads were an easy target for lad culture on TV in the UK for a short time but broadcast guidelines now consider it offensive and its prevent. <br /> <br /> Similarly for wranger. Although I haven't lived in OZ for a couple of years I have never heard of this term, and no doubt its use will also disappear from TV in time. Supposedly the terms comes from comparing readheads to Orangutans. Would it be acceptable to compare a black person to an ape because they somehow resemble an ape. Definitely not. <br /> <br /> The popularization of such term on Wiki is deeply offensive. Would Wikipedia considered the popularization of similar offensive terms for blacks or asians acceptable? Definitely not. <br /> <br /> If you think this is over the top, wait till you have a red-headed child as I have and encounter people who think insulting terms like these are &quot;smart&quot; because they've seen them on TV or websites like this.<br /> <br /> Shame.<br /> <br /> *Wow. Extremely well written, anonymous. SOme of this, especially the first paragraph should go on the main page. I think it is better to instead of just deleting something, that we should document the history. I think the word nigger is on wikipedia and the historic timeline. I agree that racism against redhaired people is real ethnic racism. What, for example are you talking about UK TV. Is there something written that says &quot;from now on no one can be racist against red-haired people&quot;? I'd like to know about that. Maybe there should be a page just about racism against red-heads. Is there a page just about racism against black people or is it all together?--[[User:CDA|cda]] 00:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == disscusion ==<br /> <br /> i dont think its offensive, i have red hair myself and get called Wranger, Wrangs but most of the time now its more of a nick name then a insult. I think its a bit much to says its racist its more of a fad, people used to dine out on jews, then italians calling them wogs and things,japanies and chinese with things like slanties, dark skinned people before all that, i mean its a passing thing and its almost over any way, soon society will find a new target to vilify. But there is reason to take it off as it isnt very purdent to have it on a encyclopedia but there could be a sub section put in a while once the red haired hype has died down.<br /> <br /> == phobia/philia - some word clearing required ==<br /> <br /> phobia: greek word, fear of something. usually it makes up compound words.<br /> philia: greek word, love or affection of something.<br /> <br /> it occurs, but mixing greek and english does not sound very much.<br /> latin is more compatible (though not anyone speaks it).<br /> for red: ruber m, rubra f, rubrum n <br /> -rubraphil (to charge it only to love redhead woman)<br /> -ruberphil (does not sound)<br /> or try japanese: red-&gt; &quot;aka&quot; -&gt; &quot;akaphil&quot;. does not sound.<br /> probably &quot;akai&quot;?<br /> <br /> people talk in greek and latin words, but do they know their concepts, styles, views (their ancient world)?<br /> it really helps to use a dicitonary.<br /> <br /> i do not &quot;hear&quot; the word &quot;redophil&quot; sounding much valid.<br /> something like &quot;podo-phil&quot; (no one uses it).<br /> it sounds redo-phil (the affection/a preference to re-do something).<br /> red-o-phil is &quot;bad&quot; style (something like &quot;future-o-rama&quot;).<br /> people should not use such contructions.<br /> <br /> if you do not understand things: i cleared up words using a dictionary. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 11:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> There is not sufficient evidence of the term &quot;redophil&quot; on the internet. &quot;redophilia&quot; gives 124 hits (arachnophobia gives 232,000 hits). Hence it is a &quot;slang term&quot;, but a uncommon one. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 12:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The word is &quot;redophile&quot;, not &quot;redophil&quot;. It has 10,900 hits on Google. What's your point? [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::WOW. Feel free to use it. I am not redo-phile. If i paint my hairs red (not coloring them red), using real paint, this speaks on its own. I do not require this term. I do not see it efficient to edit this article anymore. redo-phile: the philia to redo something. ME NOT. It does not belong to (the) weasley article. Probably i remove it from there, when someone adds it. Because, thank of you, good grief, i can call it non-sense, and un-related vandalism. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: You miss my point again. I have no opinion on whether &quot;redophilia&quot; belongs in this article or not. I don't care one way or the other. I was merely pointing out that the justification YOU give for YOUR objection is based on a misunderstanding and a spelling error: you googled for the wrong word when you did your research. That's why you got so few hits; you spelled the word wrong. Please refrain from editing this article. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 17:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Nicknames for people with red/orange hair==<br /> *Tomato <br /> *Redhead <br /> *Ginger <br /> <br /> Hello red-heads. How do you feel about these terms? Any other friendly words? Do you see this list &quot;vandalism/offensive&quot;? [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The specific vandalism I referred to was your claim that 'ginger' is used as a nickname for the Gaiety Theatre on South King Street in Dublin, Ireland. Not only is that not true but it is entirely irrelevant in an article on red hair. That said, the edit you are talking about here issuperfluous. We already mention that 'redhead' and 'ginger' are nicknames and I dispute the use of 'tomato' which you did not [[WP:CITE|cite]]. I'm also going to remove your NPOV tag because you have not mentioned your reasoning here. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Superfluous --&gt; useful word, i keep it in mind. I believe the first part of the word &quot;Gaiety&quot; refers to the french &quot;gai&quot;, in a sense of meaning &quot;merriment&quot;. Cockney is a bit rude and talks in tomatoes, see the entry. Hence it is not violating the rules of [[cockney]]. Sorry if it looks like doing a bit vandalism. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The removing of the NPOV tag: it does not bug too much, and i do not believe the article is neutral, perfect or complete.<br /> &quot;Tomato&quot; --&gt; htpp://rottentomatoes.com<br /> <br /> ::: Huh? What does rottentomatoes.com have to do with red hair? No one is suggesting that &quot;tomato&quot; is not a word; it's just not a word REFERRING TO RED HAIR. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Probably you are too picky with asking for quotations, &lt;b&gt;it is not a reason to discard data&lt;/b&gt; (by policy), but it is possible to put a template on an article, which &quot;does not cite its sources&quot;. This means the complete article, not a single sentence. redophilia is not very widespread as well, 124 hits do not suggest that it is official slang. <br /> <br /> By the way i would like to take steps to improve this article, but i am too technical sometimes. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Being technical:<br /> &quot;We already mention that 'redhead' and 'ginger' are nicknames and I dispute the use<br /> of 'tomato' which you did not cite...&quot;<br /> *I do not know: who is &quot;We&quot;<br /> *It is accepted practice to produce &quot;extract&quot; sections, which contain data which is &quot;most relevant&quot;, especially in list form. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == cockney slang ==<br /> <br /> Is not it more the usage &quot;something is ''ginger''&quot;, which means queer, somehow, or dubious (like a unserious contract)?<br /> I do not believe that cockney calls &quot;redhead&quot; people &quot;ginger&quot;, to outline their membership to a special population group (i.e. one which is frequents bars).<br /> The article gives this idea.<br /> It requires to consult someone how knows cockney, to verify it.<br /> I believe cockney says &quot;this is ginger to me&quot;, and it does not have any reference to &quot;redhead&quot; people.<br /> :Well, I must say this is more likely than your contention that &quot;ginger&quot; refers to a specific building in Ireland. Nevertheless, you raise a good point. It is entirely possible that the term, &quot;ginger&quot;, does not refer to either gay people ''or'' a building in Ireland. Regardless, neither have '''anything''' to do with red hair and so I will remove the reference. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am no particular expert in Cockney rhyming slang but I have certainly heard &quot;ginger&quot; used as rhyming slang for &quot;queer&quot; (i.e. from &quot;ginger beer&quot;). The implication was homosexual but not especialy pejorative. There was no association with red hair.<br /> <br /> By the way &quot;Red hair&quot; just refers to animated objects with red hair, this includes various animals.<br /> The article needs rewrite towards talking about &quot;Red hair&quot; only, and not &quot;Red-haired_People&quot;.<br /> <br /> The pictures of &quot;Redhead people&quot; are nice, i ''like'' them personally.<br /> But, i do not see where to draw a line (how many to include), or why to include a specific person.<br /> A &quot;gallery&quot; of redhead people should be open to anyone red-head, probably it suits to open a special wiki for it.<br /> It is out of scope of a wikipedia article.<br /> I can connect a wiki immediately, one which is open to anyone to edit/add content.<br /> An article might include a picture of a prominent person (which is international recognizeable).<br /> <br /> The doughbarber.com site displays adverts, and opens pop-up windows. Hence it is a link to adverts, which might get removed (anyway it does not have to take place).<br /> The sub-page containing the information is not &quot;advert-free&quot;, and not &quot;pop-up free&quot;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 08:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == REWRITE ==<br /> <br /> if you prefer not to talk to me- probably you are scared from other websites.<br /> I am absolutely pro-redhead.<br /> However, this article is about the hair, and not the people.<br /> I plan to re-write it, and requested an extra article abuot the people.<br /> The cockney remark belongs to a dictionary of cockney, a reference to it is OK.<br /> There, it is possibly to demand that it figures the truth. (cockney: something &quot;looks&quot; ''ginger'')<br /> Wikipedia is not a closed society. Any redhead person can add pictures of own, how it looks... I would love it, but it is not an image gallery. It does not bug me and i wont remove the images, just saying. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now, this article undergoes various edit steps, which are not announced/discussed here.<br /> I have added the template [[Weasel words]], someone has removed it again.<br /> The passage about &quot;redophilia&quot; is gone, but it still has weasel words, especially &quot;some&quot;.<br /> I have added ==Nickname for redhead people==, including tomato (there is evidence for this).<br /> This was called &quot;vandalism&quot;.<br /> Now i try discuss this on the village pump (vandalism vs edit mistake). [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 12:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ** Akidd dublin: your many edits to this page are a source of frustration for me. They are of a uniformly low standard. I am guessing that you are not a native speaker of English, because you are obviously intelligent but make many, many small errors in spelling and grammar, of a sort that are unlikely in someone who is simply uneducated. Small errors like these can be corrected. But larger ones, of comprehension and appropriateness, cannot so easily be fixed.<br /> <br /> In addition, you have continually mixed up different topics. The accusation of &quot;vandalism&quot; was made in reference to a completely different edit than the one you claim; it was about the Gaiety Theatre and cockney rhyming slang. That insertion was both inaccurate and inappropriate. Vandalism is too strong a word for this error, and the person who said has retracted it. But it's more than just a simple error. <br /> <br /> The edit to which you are referring to here, like most of your edits, is grammatically incorrect (should be &quot;Nicknames&quot;) and, again, pointless: the information is already in the article, except for &quot;tomato&quot;. You claim evidence; let's see it.<br /> <br /> In short, I would like to encourage you to add value to the articles you edit. If you make valuable edits, others can correct your spelling and grammar. But if you add off-topic or repetitive nonsense, these edits must be removed. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 17:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I absolutely do not get the point. I have not made ''many edits'' to this article. I added the section nicknames, three lines, and re-spelled the ''ghey'' line. That's all the edits, Yes, of course the templates. There were successful: &quot;redophil&quot; is gone. Guess no one says that. Like podo-phil, theretically valid, but not used. So what are these ''many edits''?<br /> :Can you list mistakes i made within other articles? I do not spell small letters, i know it is not accepted for articles. There are numerous places as of 2006, where this takes place. I am not the only one.&lt;br&gt;<br /> :I do not get if you refer to my edits to this articles, or to which other articles, i have created, or edited. There are visible from CTR-L (signature).&lt;br&gt;<br /> :You say pointless (duplicate data), see the [[Yahoo! Groups]] (i have edited much of it). I do believe some want to read float-text, others are looking for a feature list. I do believe it is good right now, and not full of mistakes, ''like most of my edits''.<br /> :I do not understand, why [[Yahoo! Avatars]] is unrelated- they support the display of redhead avatars. Personally i do not know, if a link to [[Cockney]] makes sense, or if it is (again) considered edit mistake/vandalism, if i just add one internal link. For other articles, i am not that pedantic, however i do not really remove data (see [[Matsuri]], can you do it better? - it has political connection, and was in bad state. It is not required to remove the link table. It is valid to use html exceptionally). A little talk about few my edits (grammar?) - see [http://rottentomatoes.com rottentomatoes.com]. The Dough Barber site pops up adverts, or it has popped up adverts in the past. It would not be wrong to switch to pop-up free web hosting. I do not get the point why i can not add rottentomatoes.com to here, just because i can not proove that it relates to &quot;tomato&quot; nickname. I have read (more than once) the british make spelling/grammar mistakes themselves. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 08:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You do not understand why a link to &quot;rottentomatoes.com&quot; is inappropriate for an article on red hair? Are you serious? [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 23:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: It puts people (browsing the article) to cinema movies - so to speak. that's NPOV, true, polically correct talking that red haired people are not... we leave it at this point. This site (rottentomtoes.com) does not attack red-haired people. Look, the article contained unsuitable stuff before i arrived. By the way i do not respond to Akidd_dublin anymore. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Removal of the South Park reference==<br /> <br /> Why was the link to the episode of South Park entitled Ginger Kids (can't get any more on-topic than that) removed from the Red Hair in Popular Culture section? South Park is a well known social satire and expresses the opinions of a lot of people, the episode itself highlights many views of people with Red Hair and therefore it is appropriate to this article. Added it back in<br /> <br /> ==Removal of link==<br /> I removed a link that I found to be not working. Just letting you know.[[User:Cjflash|Cjflash]] 03:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)cjflash<br /> <br /> ==Changing of picture==<br /> <br /> I changed the picture of the redheaded dude, it was more Auburn. Instead I have put in a picture of a man with very red ginger hair. Fnarf999 changed it back to my annoyance, he clearly hasnt got a clue. {{unsigned|Edgovan20}}<br /> :[[WP:CIVIL|Be civil]], please. Editors can have a difference of opinion on things like this without being clue-impaired. Auburn and &quot;ginger&quot; are both shades of red, and it's a judgment call which is the better image. Since it's your picture we're debating, maybe your annoyance comes from taking this a little personally?<br /> :Also, please add comments at the bottom of the page, not the top. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #f33&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;[[User talk:Rodii|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #669&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;rodii&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;middot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 01:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> I dont like the other pic, the guy looks a little creepy. Also its just distracting from the article, but I have decided to leave it seeing as the general consenus is that it should stay. However I added another picture, which is most definetely of cultural significance seperate from the other.<br /> :: I've reverted the picture back - the editors here need to talk this out on the talk page rather than playing revert tennis. Settle on a consensus on the images THEN change them - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 10:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> Oh and Peripitus, do not call the picture &quot;unattractive&quot;, i'm quite sure my friend would take offense to that. I dont see your picture on here at all...i wonder why. There is a page for people who look ugly you know, it doesnt have to go in your profile. - [[user:edgovan20|Ed]]<br /> ::::Perhaps you have misunderstood. The picture is unattractive that is not-[[aesthetics|aesthetic]]ally pleasing. This is not a slight on the subject but on the composition and overall impression the picture gives. The older picture is clearer and better illustrates the subject of the article - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 12:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's not &quot;your friend,&quot; it's you, and the only thing you've contributed to Wikipedia is to plant pictures of you on various pages--and none of them are really satisfactory images for the articles they're in. I don't like either picture, actually, but the older one is definitely better to illustrate red hair. For one thing, there's only one person in it, so there's no potential confusion. It's also more of a closeup, so more detail is visible. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #f33&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;[[User talk:Rodii|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #669&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;rodii&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;middot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 11:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Talk about a [[WP:LAME|lame edit war]]. I've protected the page and request both sides to discuss the pros and cons of the images here on the talk page. [[User:Angr|Angr]] ([[User talk:Angr|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Angr|c]]) 12:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> No its not me, it is my friend Ben Thompson. I know the summary of the pic says E W Govan, but that was meant to mean I took the photo. Roddi...put &quot;wan&quot; and &quot;ker&quot; together and that is what you are. The current picture is far too &quot;in your face&quot;, he looks a bit creepy and generaly does not make it very &quot;aethetically pleasing&quot;. My friends picture is not so &quot;in your face&quot;, it get the message across clearly.<br /> HOW was that a personal attack?! i said Roddi not Rodii. I do hope there was no confusion there...get real people --unsigned comments from [[User:Edgovan20|Edgovan20]] ([[User talk:Edgovan20|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Your intent was clear. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree. I made the original revert. The substituted picture by Edgovan20 was a very blatant vanity pic of some dudes sitting on a couch, nyuk nyuk nyuk. I have no attachment to the original picture but it at least clearly shows red hair in an unambiguous way. My actual preference would be to get rid of it altogether; I think there are quite enough pictures of redheads here to get the point across. What I don't understand is why such a seemingly innocuous article as this should attract so much flamebait, hostility, posing, and sheer lunacy. For some reason most of the people who flock to this page have only harm in mind. We've had all this argument about the pictures before when people were arguing about which girl in which picture was &quot;hotter&quot;. This is pathetic behavior. Please leave your personal vanity OUT of the project. \ [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] \ [[User_talk:Fnarf999|talk]] \ [[Special:Contributions/Fnarf999|contribs]] \ 22:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''Compromise''' - People, the lack of [[WP:CIVIL|civility]] and the triviality of this argument is not improving the article. How about not having either of the pictures on the page? The three left surely show red hair well enough - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 22:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :See my thoughts on this at [[User talk:Angr#redhairedguy.jpg]]. In brief, I consider it a violation of NPOV to have more pictures of women than men in articles on physical appearance. This is the reason I added redhairedguy.jpg to this article in the first place. If you want to remove both of these images, then by NPOV one of the women should go as well. [[User:Angr|Angr]] ([[User talk:Angr|talk]]) 22:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I've unprotected the page since no one has been discussing the issue any more. [[User:Angr|Angr]] ([[User talk:Angr|talk]]) 05:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I would be more than happy to see only two pictures on the page, one male and one female. The point is to demonstrate visually what red hair looks like, not to provide publicity for oneself. I would nominate the first picture of the unidentified woman and the picture of Robin Cook, deleting the pictures of Loreena McKennitt and the young man. \ [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] \ [[User_talk:Fnarf999|talk]] \<br /> Hello Fnarf. Indeed, i agree. Well, only to a certain extent. I think that the picture of the young man should go, and i dont have an problem with the other pictures. I dont like the picture of the young man, it is too weird and just distracts from the article. I am not saying my suggestion of replacement picture is the only one, i just changted it before because i owned the rights to the picture. [[User:edgovan20|edgovan20]] \ [[User_talk:Edgovan20|talk]]<br /> Oh excellent someone changed the picture...well done. Oh hello yamla if your reading this</div>

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<p>82.24.117.210: </p> <hr /> <div>==Archive==<br /> <br /> [[User talk:Yamla/Archive1|Archive]] (from [[Dec 16]], [[2004]] - [[April 17]], [[2006]])<br /> <br /> ==2006==<br /> <br /> Hey sorry, wow I didnt even realise it was ACTUALLY editing the page, i now understand wikipedias ways. I should have used the sandbox or whatever you said. My bad, sorry.<br /> <br /> Yo.<br /> I'm sorry I wrote all of those things about the black eyed peas, fallout boy, micheal moore and Pete doherty. Oh and the kooks, but what I said wasn't false, that guy is freaking ugly. What the fuck. Emo sucks.<br /> <br /> ===April===<br /> Yamla, thank you for your comments. If I have valuable information or great pictures of an artist, why can't I link it to my webpage? I understand that the information should be included in wikipedia instead, but what about the pictures? Why can't I create a link to my own webpage, however I can add links to other's webpages?<br /> thanks for your response, I am new on wikipedia and I would really like to collaborate. Being part of the team of the Cannes Film Festival and the Monaco TV Festival, we have taken pictures of hundreds of important actors and I think this would really enrich the content of Wikipedia. (About Evangeline Lilly) April 25th,2006<br /> Thanks, Iliana from Biosstars<br /> :I'm sorry, Wikipedia policy dictates that it is inappropriate to add links to these sorts of sites to Wikipedia articles. Please read [[WP:EL]] for information on what external links are appropriate. You should never add a link to a site you run, which means the entire Biosstars website cannot be added by you. More generally, a collection of pictures, while a useful web resource, is not particularly valuable to an encyclopedia. Now, on the other hand, if one of your pictures can be licensed appropriately (basically, freely licensed), please feel free to add it to an article if the article does not already have a picture. Thanks! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was not nonsense as u suggested, i recommend that YOU double check before coming down hard on ppl who want to contribute lawfully.<br /> Check this out,<br /> <br /> http://entertainment1.sympatico.msn.ca/Celebs/News/ContentPosting.aspx?newsitemid=KP18040609&amp;feedname=CP-SHOWBIZ_V2&amp;show=False&amp;number=0&amp;showbyline=False&amp;subtitle=&amp;detect=&amp;abc=abc -- unsigned comments from [[User:24.43.168.82|24.43.168.82]] ([[User talk:24.43.168.82|talk]])<br /> <br /> :But that's not what you used to [[WP:CITE|cite]] the information you added. The citation you used was [http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue238/news.html this] which says '''nothing''' about her birthday party whatsoever. Additionally, the site you provide references the UK Sun and that is '''most definitely''' a tabloid and not suitable for a Wikipedia [[WP:CITE|citation]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====Suri Cruise====<br /> It was a mistake, I was kidding around and didn't even realize I saved it. Secondly, do people normally get &quot;last warnings&quot; as their first warnings? I have never been accused of vandalizing a page before. And, as far as the subject matter goes, I am sure there has been/is much vandalism on this page as well as on Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes' page, but i fyou look at Holmes' page you'll see that I was actually one of the contributors to that page being named a featured article. Though I understand where you are coming from, I hope you can except my excuse and I'll expect an apology as soon as you get a chance.[[User:AriGold|AriGold]] 22:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks for the apology. I was blocked once before (I think for one hour) for engaging in an edit war with a poster who 3 mods had been told not to do something. I kept reverting the article back to the way the consensus of mods had told the other poster it should be, so I actually thought I was doing the right thing. Needless to say, the other poster was banned for a while, but I was given a banishment as a token punishment for engaging in the edit war. I always knew that would come back to haunt me, ha. I was really ticked off when you gave me that last warning and I too apologize for being kind of mean with my response to you. Glad we worked it out.<br /> <br /> I ment the speedy deletion tag. [[User:Jonathan235|Jonathan235]] 11:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====RED HAIR====<br /> <br /> Wikipedia was having server issues, so I got the &quot;wikimedia server issue page&quot; after I hit the preview button, so I simply posted the update and would check back when things got back to normal. I am pretty consistent with my edits, so no worries. Thanks for being observant. --[[User:Cabanaguy|Cabanaguy]] :)<br /> <br /> ====RE: Vandalism====<br /> <br /> <br /> &quot;Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to [[Ciara]], you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Yamla 17:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)&quot;<br /> <br /> I just updated the charts! And I deleted unconfirmed information (The name &quot;Fever&quot; has never been confirmed) - that's no sign for &quot;vandalism&quot; ... So why should I be blocked?<br /> :You did not [[WP:CITE|cite]] your changes. You've already been warned about that and there's a big warning specifically on the [[Ciara]] page itself. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Hduff2 image====<br /> <br /> hey. I don't really understand...how can I make the photo right? ([[User:CENA LUV|CENA LUV]] 17:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC))<br /> :You claimed that the copyright for that image fell under the terms of the GNU FDL. However, you presented no signed statement from Maxim to this effect. Your best bet would be to scan in the letter you received confirming they have licensed this image under that license. If you did not receive a signed statement from Maxim, your next best bet is to take a look at the [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags]] and find the appropriate one. I am not aware, however, of any fair-use justification for using that image on that page. In other words, I suspect there's no way we can use the image without violating copyright. Image copyright is a tricky thing. You generally are not permitted to use magazine scans on the Wikipedia. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====thanks====<br /> <br /> Thank you for your help with the [[Reese Witherspoon]] article. Greatly appreciated! --[[User:Marysunshine|Marysunshine]] 22:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Why do we need a CITE to hear a pitch? I guess this is were I have a problem because like it or not, the entertainment companies are not packing them in to test their abilities scientifically. This is just one of those areas where it is easy to hear whether a pitch is high or low. I think nearly anybody can tell if a pitch is high or &quot;glass-shattering&quot; high. Sorry, just my two cents. [[User:Antares33712|Antares33712]] 16:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::We need a citation because Wikipedia has a policy against [[WP:NOR|original research]], because [[Reese Witherspoon]]'s whistle register abilities are disputed, and because you had already been requested to provide this citation on that article's discussion page. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====RE: Urban Myth====<br /> <br /> Sorry for that. Actually i have got scrap in orkut about how Mr. Orkut earns money out of orkut. I just like to share information with others. If you are saying that the information was wrong then could you tell me how Mr. Orkut and google earns from ORKUT. Please answer this, i am curious about it.<br /> <br /> ====Shattering glass====<br /> <br /> Hi there. I was just browsing and came across the article on [[Whistle register]]. I see that on the talk page [[Talk:Whistle register#Breaking glass|you commented]] (some time ago) about a programme in the 70s/80s where someone demonstrated the &quot;shatter a glass by singing&quot; thing. I wonder: could you be thinking of ''Think of a Number'' (or perhaps its sequel ''Think Again''), a children's maths and science programme presented by [[Johnny Ball]] on the BBC? The dates are right. And I think I saw the same thing :) [[User:Telsa|Telsa]] [[User talk:Telsa|(talk)]] 17:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====tool====<br /> <br /> the website is 99% english with some minor stuff in italian, and i added it under the fansite section, so it's normal for it to be a fansite. put it back :) [[User:Unixer|Unixer]] 15:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :As per [[WP:EL]], at most '''one''' fansite may be appropriate in extreme cases. There's already a fansite on that page so I don't think your addition is appropriate. If you disagree, though, please feel free to bring it up on the article's discussion page and I'll be happy to debate the merits. Thanks! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Sorry====<br /> <br /> yamla i'm brazilian and i have dificults in traslation inglish...my inglish is sucks but i try...sorry for image [P!nk]....is delet now....cause i don't put copyrith because i dont know how make it!!<br /> but i don't pratic vandalism...and please!!!! Stupid girls is #4 in uk charts no #2!!!<br /> thanks hooker<br /> <br /> ====My user talk page....====<br /> <br /> How is it that I can't delete anything from my talk page?<br /> [[User:DarknessProductionsInc|DarknessProductionsInc]] 02:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :The reason you are not permitted is because this serves as a record of what other people have said to you. For example, we can see that you've uploaded several images with problems. If you just delete the comments, it looks like there's never been any problems. Additionally, they are not your words to delete. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You should not delete external links some are good resource. --unsigned comments from [[User:Grace kalenda|Grace kalenda]] ([[User talk:Grace kalenda|talk]])<br /> :Some are, but you are spamming links. Please reread [[WP:EL]] for Wikipedia's external links policy. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Spore release-date====<br /> Yamla, you recently reverted one of my additions (or rather, corrections) to the [[Spore (game)]] page for lack of citation. You're probably right, my source is http://games.telenet.be/index.php?act=one&amp;nid=22377 which talks about the fact that both ebgames.com and gamestop.com have changed their pre-sale shipping date to the 1st of Feb 2007. Not really citable imho, so maybe it's best to keep the information as it is now. Thanks for pointing that out. [[User:Theroachman|Theroachman]] 03:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Deletion of account====<br /> <br /> Is there any way that I could get my account deleted? I just don't care to have an account with Wikipedia anymore. [[User:DarknessProductionsInc|DarknessProductionsInc]] 16:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Please see [[Wikipedia:Account_deletion#Deleting_your_user_account]] for information about deleting user accounts. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====re: Natasha Henstridge====<br /> <br /> No need to introduce that category into the Natasha Henstridge page, she's already listed as belonging to one or more child categories. :) --Yamla 16:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks for bringing up &quot;child categories&quot; to my attention. I realize now that the hierarchy should be sufficient. I've been adding &quot;Canadian actors&quot; to a variety of Wiki bios and maybe many of those should be reverted as well. One question regarding &quot;British Columbia actors&quot; category, which is where I actually started adding to actors/actresses categories. It's also listed as a &quot;child category&quot; so what is the best way to reconcile a &quot;geographical&quot; child category. Maybe that &quot;category&quot; should have been set up differently? [[User:Southsloper|Southsloper]] 08:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Checked out some of the Categories discussions - I'll read some more on those to understand it better and conventions :-) Meanwhile I'll stop adding &quot;Canadian actors&quot; and &quot;British Columbia actors&quot; categories until I understand the whole scheme better. Thanks. [[User:Southsloper|Southsloper]] 09:12, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====red hair====<br /> <br /> I have read your user page, but i do not believe that i have &quot;added non-sense to any article&quot;.<br /> I added this list: [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 15:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> May-Bee, but maybe it also takes a [[Cockney]] expert to proove that. I am not one. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I refer to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_hair&amp;diff=50879704&amp;oldid=50878952 this edit]. I'm sorry but it is complete crap that 'ginger' refers to the Gaiety Theatre on South King Street in Dublin, Ireland. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I completely disagree with this statement of yours. I read the edit, and under the gaining of information about the meaning of words, it has value. Please, stop placing your value-judgements on the edits of others. In this case, you're most inaccurate, and wrong. [[User:Zennie|Zennie]] 9:39 May 19, 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, I provided a citation that Akidd dublin was incorrect (though not here). The original statement on [[Red hair]] was correct, Akidd's edit introduced false information and was later reverted. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Nicknames for people with red/orange hair====<br /> *Tomato<br /> *Redhead<br /> *Ginger<br /> <br /> I do not see &quot;adding vandalism&quot; within this.<br /> The term &quot;ghey&quot; &lt;b&gt;is not scientific&lt;/b&gt;.<br /> I can refuse to spell a non-scientific term (within a official work contract, or something that is compareable to it).<br /> No one can be urged to use &quot;ghey&quot; in a non-scientific sense.<br /> &quot;Cockney&quot; is about, well &quot;free usage of language&quot;, but not about &quot;throwing rotten tomatoes&quot;.<br /> <br /> This is not meant personally.<br /> &lt;b&gt;I suggest that you use the discussion page&lt;/b&gt;: [[Talk:Red_hair]], &lt;u&gt;to communicate about modificatios of the article&lt;/u&gt;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 15:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :A related discussion is taking place on [[Talk:Red hair]]. I have no idea what this user is talking about with &quot;ghey&quot;, however. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It is an alternative spelling of the french word &quot;gai&quot;, which is abused in a non-scientific meaning as of present age (2006). Several references within IRISH songs do not mean &quot;gai&quot; people, but the originial &quot;merriement&quot;. It's not Cockney, but not worlds apart from britain.<br /> I can not proove if the spelling in the article is &quot;wrong&quot; or &quot;right&quot;. Definetively Cockney is not &quot;french&quot;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===May===<br /> <br /> ====Spam complaint====<br /> <br /> My apologies. I am no Spammer. I was merely adding links to a non-commercial movie review site that I thought would add value for your readers -- since the majority of the reviews are for seldom reviewed movies. I will refrain from future edits.<br /> <br /> :No need to refrain from future edits, just please do not add links that violate [[WP:EL]] policy. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====what is vandalism?====<br /> <br /> I am sorry for what was said, but i thought it required to improve the article [[Red_hair]].<br /> Later on, i found something which looks like vandalism to me: [[Aztec_calendar]] (at the bottom). The category information was removed.<br /> Removing information=vandalism! One does not always know, if information might be useful for someone, even if it looks &quot;bad style&quot;, wrong or unrelevant.<br /> Personally, i do not really remove information.<br /> An attempt to add data is not vandalism!<br /> Adding links to commercial sites (unrelated) is called spamming. <br /> <br /> I hope this shows i do not have an interest to bug people unneccessarily. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 08:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== What?! ====<br /> <br /> Hey Yamla, what the hell are you talking about, my friend? I didn't write anything about that crazy bitch called Hilary Duff? Maybe I have a dynamic IP, but I think the only thing dynamic around is '''your''' brain, azzhole! --[[User:200.93.196.236|200.93.196.236]] 14:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :In that case, I suggest you get a username. You'll likely get more warnings about vandalism if someone is using this IP address to vandalise articles. And in the future, please note that personal attacks are grounds for a block. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Merlinus Blocked by Accident ====<br /> I am new to Wikipedia, I tried to make an edit and it said I was &quot;autoblocked&quot; by you... whatever that means. But it called me by a user that I never heard of. Maybe it confused my AOL IPS number or something... please check on it and leave a breif message on ''my'' user discussion page. Thanks, MARC--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Unblocked. This one looks like collateral damage as I did not issue any blocks against that user name. Merlinus, please let me know if you are still unable to edit. If so, I'll need to know the exact IP address you are trying to edit from. Hopefully what I've done already is sufficient, though. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Still blocked: ====<br /> something about Havla? I dont know wwhat my exact Ip adress is? --[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If you are still blocked, I ''need'' your IP address to unblock you. Please try a site like [http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ this] to figure out what your IP address is. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, Yamla, but it's me, fellow admin [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] that you've got blocked at this IP now; I'm stuck with AOL for now and know that I'm not supposed to unblock myself, tempting though it is. Thanks,<br /> [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] 20:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Its Merlinus, You have done some wide amount of blocking of AOL Isp numbers this morning and caused a lot of trouble for me! Please fix it ASAP so I don't have get into a big hassle over this. Marc--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Okay, these users should be unblocked now. Sorry, folks, it was unintended collateral damage on a legit block. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== IP ====<br /> <br /> When I'm blocked, it always shows me what my IP address is being shown as, which is why I usually can get unblocked fairly well. There is a way to get into any connection to any ISP using the &quot;advanced&quot; button on its software to see what IP address is being used, but I think that it varies among ISP's and in any event is to much to go into here. Most users can probably get it from their ISP's tech support, but we both know just what a hassle that can be. [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] 21:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Jluv's sorry====<br /> I'am new on this site and I love it I'am sorry for what i did on the Ciara page thuoght it was fever because on the Kayne west page it says Fever I'am sorry. Next time I change somthing i'll tell you thanks.<br /> :No reason to tell me when you are about to edit something, just be careful to read the comments and not to change cited information without providing a better [[WP:CITE|citation]] for your change! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:15, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[:Image:ChloëSevigny.jpg]] ====<br /> <br /> I uploaded it, and placed it in the article. you removed it, citing it not being 'fair use' justification. I really could care less, honestly, but I was a little confused, since it is a press release photo from HBO for a new show shes on. Isn't that fair use? [[User:Cornellrockey|Cornell Rockey]] 03:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I still don't see any evidence that this came from a promotional kit, though it may have been. You are also meant to provide a detailed fair-use justification for each use. It's ''probably'' fair use, but not definitely. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That link I've posted as a source seems pretty press-kit-like to me, and as I said, I really don't care that much. No one else seems to have taken issue with my liberal interpretation of 'press kit' but whatever. Happy wikipedia-ing. [[User:Cornellrockey|Cornell Rockey]] 03:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Confused user ====<br /> You have written:<br /> <br /> Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Laura Prepon. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. --Yamla 14:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I don't know, what you are talking about. I never edited anything in the article of Laura Prepon. I never heard from this woman before. --unsigned comments from [[User:195.3.113.174|195.3.113.174]] ([[User talk:195.3.113.174|talk]])<br /> <br /> :If you did not make those changes then someone else using this IP address did. That is fairly common if you share IP addresses or are on a dynamic IP. As we know a vandal sometimes uses this IP address, I suggest you register a username to prevent your edits being confused with that person's edits. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====3RR violation====<br /> I wanted to let you know that I have reported your five reverts within 24 hours at [[Natalee Holloway]] at the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Yamla|3RR noticeboard]] for consideration of the question of blocking you under [[WP:3RR]]. You may wish to comment there. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 23:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== vandalism removal ====<br /> <br /> it is not required to reply. However, i appreciate your removal of ''explicit graffiti'' from the article [[Red_hair]]. It looks a target for such things.<br /> By the way i found an exact suiting template for ''some'' formulations within the article... have a look. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Ken Hitchcock ====<br /> <br /> Sherwood Park could be considered part of Edmonton even though it is still considered a hamlet and city due to it's size. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 2:45PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I moved your comments to Archive 2. Also, I put famous people from Sherwood Park. That doesn't necessarily mean they have to be born there. Take John V. Hicks for instance. He wasn't born in Prince Albert, but he did live there. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:10PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I should tell you that Archive 2 is dedicated to sports. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:11PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I found what I was looking for. While I was creating the Telus Cup (formerly Air Canada Cup) page I was looking for NHL alumni who have played in the Telus Cup. This is a link to a page which has a lot of NHL alumni that played in the Air Canada Cup. [http://www.midgetaaacanada.com/en/archive/championship/charlottetown_2006/nationals/alumni.htm Click here]. Now when you scroll down to the H section. You will see that Ken Hitchcock is listed as being from Sherwood Park. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 4:00PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I also found a profile of him that says he is from Edmonton. [http://cbs.sportsline.com/nhl/players/playerpage/20581 Click here]. Could this be conflicting? [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 4:05PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Tom Cruise info removal ====<br /> <br /> Excuse me, but you recently deleted my information that I added to Tom Cruise, because you thought of it as vandalism. However, all things i said ARE true. Tom Cruise IS 5'7&quot;, those jokes i mentioned ARE real, from mind of mencia, and he most certainly isnt a ninja. So please, put these FACTS back on.--unsigned comments from [[User:Soccermike|Soccermike]] ([[User talk:Soccermike|talk]])<br /> :I have no idea who or what mencia is but the jokes are inappropriate at that point in the article. As to the height, you forgot to [[WP:CITE|cite]] this information. Read [[WP:CITE]] to learn how to cite. As to him being a ninja, I agree. But virtually nobody is a ninja and we simply don't need that added to each article. He is also, for example, not a [[zebra]] but again, that fact doesn't need to be added to the article. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== My Archives ====<br /> <br /> I do allow people to talk on my archives. Just don't make a new heading if there is one already there. Just make a new subheading. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:14PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Hey, Is this ok? ====<br /> <br /> Title says it all... I just want you to check the Tom Cruise page to make sure what I put was ok.<br /> <br /> :Sorry, no. The fact that some television show makes jokes about his height is simply not relevant. It is not particularly notable. In addition, the [[WP:CITE|citation]] you provided for his height is not reliable. Please remove this information or find a more reliable source. Thanks. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Ase500 ====<br /> <br /> :I need your help. I'd really appreciate it if you could warn [[User:Ase500|Ase500]] for continuing to replace vandalism that I was reverting. I'm being threatened with being blocked myself by someone who has not looked at the history and who doesn't seem to care, while Ase500 is getting away with vandalism and with violating 3RR.<br /> This was his edit to [[Wal-Mart]], which started this:<br /> ''While it is easy to see how critics may come to this conclution, Wal-Mart did have plans to close this store prior to the union vote. Infact the union vote was a last ditch effort by associates to keep the store open.''<br /> :It violates NPOV, it's misspelled, and given that he has violated 3RR action should be taken. 3RR does not mean to not revert vandalism, which I did. Now all his talk page has is a warning for violating 3RR and a second for removing the tag. As it stands, they've made it look like I'm equally wrong as him, while according the the 3RR rule I've done nothing wrong. [[User:Kamikaze Highlander|Kamikaze Highlander]] 08:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'd really like your opinion in the situation. None of the other moderators seem to care that his edit violated npov and deserved to be removed, that he was pov-pushing or that, had I reported his 3RR he might have been blocked. Since the issue has been resolved, I'd like it if someone could remove my section of the 3RR page and the warnings from my talk page, since they give the impression that I did something wrong, while his talk page only suggests that he commited a minor infraction. Pov-pushing and adding misspelled opinions without sources, and getting into an edit war to keep that kind of statement should be considered far worse than trying to remove them. [[User:Kamikaze Highlander|Kamikaze Highlander]] 17:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Vandalism warnings====<br /> Hello. I've come via a posting on [[WP:VPP#vandalism_vs._edit_mistake|the village pump]], and on reviewing the edits, I have to agree that the edit you gave a vandalism warning for does not look like vandalism to me. Uncited, proably incorrect, but no indication from contribution history that it was not made [[WP:AGF| in good faith]]. So, while it was probably a mistake, but [[WP:VAND#What_vandalism_is_not|mistakes aren't vandalism]]. I would point out that your reply calling the edit &quot;complete crap&quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAkidd_dublin&amp;diff=50905057&amp;oldid=50900569] was not very [[WP:CIVIL|civil]]. As good faith editors can rightly get demoralised by being labeled vandals, I would suggest that the best thing for you to do would be to retract the warning, and please be careful in future not to [[WP:BITE|bite good faith mistakes]]. Regards, [[User:MartinRe|MartinRe]] 13:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hello. I appreciate your comment on Akidd dublin's talk page, that is over and above what I'd expect. I'm sure you're well meaning, and I know I'm just as fustrated with vandalism as I am, and I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. I think your apology was great, everyone makes mistakes (admins and editors alike). All, the best, and hope you're well. [[User:MartinRe|MartinRe]] 22:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sometimes i add politics, and it is O.K. to demand the removal of it. I do not edit here with promotion intention. However sometimes i run in danger of ''forest fires'', because i do bite articles/sections which display/promote, other, well politics. I do not understand everything myself. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I had noticed that you had posted a vandalism warning on a users talk page after editing the [[House (TV Series)|House]] and [[Robert Sean Leonard]] article. The Robert Sean Leonard article was brought to my attention via my watchlist. I do consider what the user was doing to the Robert Sean Leonard article vandalism. However, what is the difference between vandalism and experimenting? -[[User:Diabolos|Diabolos]]<br /> <br /> ====Link Removed====<br /> &quot;The links you added to the page Spore (game) have been removed. Please do not add commercial links—or links to your own private websites—to Wikipedia.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;The link I added was neither commercial or personal, but a free web and downloadable game bearing a fair bit of resemblance to what has been shown of the first stage of the game, Spore. I thought might be of as much interest to others interested in Spore, as it was to me.<br /> <br /> ====3LW====<br /> Yamal On the 3LW myspace the have a song called &quot;Do You Ever&quot; from there new album that could also be a possible single. Just if u wanted to add it. thank for reading this have a good day.<br /> JLUV<br /> <br /> ==== Red hair (your comment add to my talk) ====<br /> <br /> I believe many people relate queer to gai, but it is not very related (if at all). My interpretation was &quot;looks ginger&quot;, in a meaning of way of &quot;unserious and queer&quot;. People producing edits could use a dictionary. &lt;font size=1&gt;i have removed agressive info.&lt;/font&gt; [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> * This comment by Adkidd dublin is not English. The interpretation of &quot;looks ginger&quot; as &quot;unserious and queer&quot; indicates a fundamental lack of understanding of the English language. It's not just wrong, it's ludicrously wrong, like saying &quot;my dog has square wheels&quot;. Likewise, &quot;striptease&quot; is not &quot;completely gai&quot;, it is utterly NOT &quot;gai&quot; (or &quot;gay&quot;). The suggestion to &quot;use a dictionary&quot; is laughable coming from someone who has demonstrated no understanding of English usage or idiom at all. I don't know how to proceed with this; see his comments on my talk page as well. I would appreciate a word or two of advice. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It is called &quot;word clearing&quot;. It is not laughable. ''This dog has square wheels and looks like a spider'': [[Old Mother Hubbard]]. Gai means sexually flavoured activity for entertainment purpose. I do not need to use this words at all. If i see it, it is annoying. <br /> <br /> :::What basis do you have for asserting that this is what Gai means? I can find no reference in several dictionaries and google does not seem to back you up. As to the rest of that paragraph, could you please rewrite it? It makes no sense to me. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I appreciate your comments, however ''I'' dont know where are you coming from; people can misunderstand this as harassment (using dictionary=laughable), and you do not really know if it is asked for. If it belongs here. <br /> :::''I don't know how to proceed with this; see his comments on my talk page as well. I would appreciate a word or two of advice.'' - don't bother to delete unwanted info. i make ..., because there are Ghits for ''baking oven''.<br /> *Please look. I do not want to make a point, or to disrupt. Probably it is better to stop now. I do not edit articles, where this word (ga-i) occurs. I just thought it is not connected to hair color (which i like personally). I use electronic dictionaries myself. The rhyme about that dog is not addressing anyone. It is not offensive. Can we stop it. I have searched the web for &quot;baking oven&quot;. Probably Fnarf999 has done this too- before doing Afd for [[baking_oven]]. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 19:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== admin ====<br /> <br /> Just a request that you add yourself to the [[:category:Wikipedia administrators]] (i don't know if it's required?) or otherwise clarify the &quot;nominated&quot; message on your userpage. And thanks for the help reverting the icebergradio linkspammer :) -[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] 19:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Not ====<br /> <br /> I'm Not Trying to be Funny. I really do not know what the copying status is. And when you upload it it says This image might be copyrighted. And that's what I chose. [[User:Tcatron565|Tcatron565]] 5:30 08, May 2006 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Re: Toronto98 ====<br /> <br /> Hey, I'm at my wit's end over this [[User:Toronto98|Toronto98]] person. They keep inserting really ugly porn starlet pics into formerly tasteful articles like [[nudity]], [[breast]], and [[kiss]]. The images keep getting deleted for lack of copyright info, but then they add more. User [[User:Lalalulu|Lalalulu]] is doing the same, might be the same person for all I know. This is ruining the credibility of these articles as encyclopedic.<br /> <br /> Is there some process at Wikipedia for when someone keeps uploading inappropriate and copyrighted images? Would that be handled by Wikimedia? Thanks, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====My warning====<br /> <br /> I got three warnings for the same editing trip, im done, and I realize it is wrong now.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Octagon-warning.png|left|30px]] You have been temporarily [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so after the block expires.&lt;!-- {{blocked}} --&gt;<br /> :Very funny, [[User talk:82.198.250.5|82.198.250.5]], but that's a lie. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Why not delete it? It's not legitimate, and its only purpose is to prejudice people against you when they see your talk page. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 19:25, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I prefer to be conservative in what I leave on my talk page. Besides, I was kind of entertained by this one. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Sheesh. ====<br /> <br /> Get a load of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMichael_Savage_%28commentator%29&amp;diff=52485682&amp;oldid=52483363 this].<br /> <br /> I was just trying to make a point about consistency in descriptive standards, and I got a paranoid screed. My question is, what IS considered best usage on Wikipedia? I can't find mention of this issue in the MOS. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 20:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I strongly suspect (though I could be wrong) the problem here is that &quot;Jew&quot; is both a religion and a race, or at least is often considered as one or the other. It's quite reasonable to describe me as a &quot;British-Canadian&quot; (or would if I actually got off my behind and applied for Canadian citizenship). I'm quite comfortable at describing first-generation immigrants that way (and am myself a first-generation immigrant). It is less clear in the case of Jewish people, however. While it may well be relevant to discuss their religion, it is more difficult when using the term in a racial (not racist) manner. Certainly, it'd be reasonable to describe a person as 'Israeli-American'. I'm much less comfortable describing second- (and more-) generation people this way. Someone who's great grandparents came from Germany can't really be described as 'German-American' in my opinion. In this case, though, I just let it stand though I would never add something like that myself. Okay, so what about this particular case? Really, the best answer is whether Mr. Savage describes himself as Jewish-American. If he doesn't, we ''probably'' shouldn't use the term. It's debateable, however, as it is definitely significant that Mr. Savage identifies himself as Jewish. It may have something to do with liberals, democrats, and republicans. Personally, I'm just happy to live in Canada. :) --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Lucky. A friend of mine who's a trucker recently described what it was like hauling some freight to Canada. On his way into Canada, the Canadian border guards were friendly. ''On his way back into the U.S.'', though, he was bullied and harassed by border guards with way too little training and way too much power. I'd envy you, but then I remember that through the magic of XM radio, you folks up in the frozen north have to put up with our talk radio dreck, too.<br /> <br /> ::Eh. I guess you're right, though. If Weiner is so determined to hide his Jewish ancestry from his fine new friends in the blame-Jews crowd, then I'll let it go. I have to admit that I rarely do more than fix vandalism in articles devoted to him and other [[Ann Coulter|shrill]] purveyors of hatred. I don't trust myself to be entirely neutral when discussing such people. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 23:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====Naan Kadavul====<br /> <br /> I've asked this user to agree not to blank his talk page. If he agrees do you wish to unblock him? [[User:ForestH2|ForestH2]]<br /> :I wasn't the one who blocked him. He was blocked for forging signatures on an RfA. Please see my follow-up comments on his [[User talk:Naan Kadavul|talk page]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That's horrible. How long is he blocked? I guess he wanted supports....That's really bad. [[User:ForestH2|ForestH2]]<br /> <br /> :::He's blocked indefinitely. Really, this should probably go to a request for arbitration or something. :) I'm unconvinced that an indefinite block was warranted but I'm probably far too liberal on that topic. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Re: [[User:Naan Kadavul]] ====<br /> <br /> I wonder if the guy can be educated? Seems kinda unlikely to me, but perhaps I'm in a harsh mood. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]][[User talk:Jpgordon|&amp;#8711;&amp;#8710;&amp;#8711;&amp;#8710;]] 00:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====music videos====<br /> *why is it forbidden to add music video links ,many people have never seen some music vidoes ,and wikipedia is a encyclopedia for everything and for music videos ,too i think ,<br /> <br /> then you have to delete all links cause they ´re all spam<br /> [[Benutzer:Pucki]] 11.May.2006 (CEST)Central Europe<br /> <br /> :They are indeed spam. The links I have given you above will help you understand ''why'' they are spam and I strongly suggest you read them. Particularly, [[WP:NOT]], [[WP:EL]], and [[Wikipedia:Spam]]. Wikipedia is not a link farm. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====this discussion is not related to wikipedia====<br /> <br /> i am considering to remove the complete talkin which fnarf999 is involved.<br /> this is getting nowhere. <br /> i do not have to keep unwanted personal writing.<br /> [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)~<br /> I wuold like to remove his writing. He proofable violates several policies at other places. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, you '''do''' have to keep fnarf999's comments. You cannot simply remove his comments. What you may do is archive this entire page (I can help you do this if you wish). This would mean moving '''all''' comments from this page to an archive page, clearing this page, and putting a link from this page back to the archive page. '''Do not''' simply remove fnarf999's comments. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:59, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====fnarf999 contribution to akidd_dublin taklk page====<br /> <br /> I do not want him to put his personal opinion (which does not really anymore talk about an article) to my userpage.<br /> Do i have to keep unrelated talk?<br /> I am giong to archieve it then. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I have already answered this question. You '''must''' keep his comments on your discussion page, or move '''all''' comments to an archive page. This comments to you are relevant to your significant problems with the English language. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== what now ====<br /> <br /> Because i found it uncanny to have a geographic location connected to an user name, i am going to abandon it now. I find the user talk embarassing, and not-well-educated teenie-like. I had it in mind forehand, but now i am going to realize it. I do not have to suggest articles for Afd. Neither to scroll people's contribution. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 15:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. What do you mean when you say &quot;not-well-educated teenie-like&quot;? And do you mean &quot;before&quot; when you say &quot;forehand&quot;? I think you are saying that you are going to abandon this user and start a new user. That's fine, that is your right. However, you may be happier editing Wikipedia in your native language as I fear that the same problems are going to show up in the new user account. Another alternative if you wish is that we could take this matter to arbitration. This would allow you to state your case and allow a group of neutral people to give their opinions. I can explain this in more detail if you would like. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:23, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::not-well-educated teenie-like -&gt; When i see weak english [[superstition]], i am trying to make it better, and not to produce long, long writing. I have now started a new user.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ::::I'm sorry, that still does not make sense. --Yamla 15:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I did not knew red-head people are so picky. I thought the article in disrepair ''before'' i arrived. I am not willing to take charge on me. My current english is not that bad. If you believe arbitration makes sense, i do not know how-to, where, why-because-of. Someone clearly misbehaved. If he is going to edit [[matsuri]] etc., it may figure an incident (because no understanding of the article itself). When i write that i like red-head people, does it help? [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 15:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I do not have red hair, this is not the source of our disagreement. Our disagreement seems to be that you think your English skills are good, I think your English skills aren't good. You can read about the RfA (arbitration) at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. The goal of this would be to get other, neutral people involved to comment on whether I am being unfair to you, or whether your English skills really aren't very good. That is, whether I should just stop bothering you, or whether you should stop making edits (or make different kinds of edits). I can give you more information if you wish. --Yamla 15:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==== P!nk ====<br /> <br /> Yamla ...the chart is U.S. Hot Dance Club Play , no U.S. Hot Dance Airplay...and then is 21 NO 13!!!! you don't see right and can blocked me...oh god! is crazy! IS 21!!!!!!!!!!!!! --unsigned comments from [[User:Hookerj|Hookerj]] ([[User talk:Hookerj|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Please don't worry. We have a dispute on content. I will not block you while we are discussing this. Please note, though, that the chart shows &quot;U.S. Hot Dance&quot;, '''not''' U.S. Hot Dance Club Play. Should this heading be corrected, perhaps? --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:26, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Babelfish/Arbitration etc. ====<br /> <br /> Are you saying that you are using software like Babelfish to translate from your native language to English? This would certainly explain the serious grammatical mistakes and difficulty in understanding what you write. If so, please stop. Babelfish is not particularly good at translating. If you need to rely on this or similar software, please refrain from editing the English version of Wikipedia. If instead you are writing everything yourself (without the use of translation software), I still claim that your skills in English aren't good enough. But this is probably opinion that could be clarified by arbitration. --Yamla 15:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> :No. I am not doing this. I am not using ... to edit wikipedia. I am using it for various other languages. &quot;Please know it forehand&quot;¹ is a result i thought understandable within the context of genuine, native english. It is not enlish, however. The engines produce a lot of interesting formulations. It has nothing to do with my work on english language. I have read numerous biographies and programming manuals in english. I can understand television etc. I do not see it full of mistakes as of 2006. ¹I do not use it within articles. It has various meanings. <br /> <br /> :I dont want people to use any tiny link for a follow up of this. People please keep the writing three lines. I am not willing to debug my personal past here on wikipedia. Akidd_dublin has been abandoned. I had it in mind for weeks because weak ID. Now i had a reason. I never even displayed what Fnarf999 is working on. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== I want to get rid of fnarf999 ====<br /> <br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fnarf999#User_subpage<br /> He showed good will to be friendly.&lt;br&gt;<br /> However he should not police me. He is new here. I do not know how to put this to arbitration.&lt;br&gt;<br /> His user talk (talking about me) has nothing to do with wikipedia. I believe it is used for harassing links to an unrelated user account.&lt;br&gt;<br /> He is stating your ID (Yamla) within a &quot;Cabal&quot; case.&lt;br&gt;<br /> I do not want him building a gateway to my new page.&lt;br&gt;<br /> The purpose was to get rid of him, even if his speech has improved lately.&lt;br&gt;<br /> I do not exclude he plays a distraction game.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Probably he does more damage than good. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006)]] 19:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I believe you are saying that you want arbitration. I do not believe I am the right person to arbitrate here. You can bring the matter to arbitration yourself by reading [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration]]. However, I will start the arbitration proceedings tomorrow (too busy with work today), unless you tell me otherwise. I will list the goal of arbitration to be:<br /> :* To determine whether other people also feel your English skills are lacking<br /> :* If so, what to do about this situation as it relates to the Wikipedia<br /> :* If not, how we can help you get a clean start here<br /> :The purpose of arbitration is to resolve conflicts. The purpose is '''not''' to attack you (or to attack me or Fnarf999). As I said, I'll start this tomorrow unless you want me to stay out of it (or unless you start it sooner). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I have put this to village pump/miscellaneuos. I believe it is a bad example - what wikipedia is not. my blog is not full of mistakes. my blog is not full of grammar mistakes. it gets deleted after 7 days, and that's good.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''OTHER PEOPLE CAN SEE THIS''' and avoid to discuss that way. Nothing for ungood. This discussion does not belong here. I do not want links to my new account. Fnarf999 and others should try a personal blog. I do not get personal at my blog. anyone can read it. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WIKIPEDIA. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006)]] 19:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Another question! ====<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you again, but something odd just happened. An editor with whom I'd had a mildly pointed discussion attempted to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Puckmv&amp;curid=5036809&amp;diff=52905581&amp;oldid=52006110 edit] my reply on his talk page to reverse the intended meaning of my words, essentially attempting to paint me as a self-admitted bigot. I've reverted his edit to his talk page, but now that I think of it, do I even have the right to do that? Is he allowed to put false words in my mouth on his talk page, or could that be considered a form of personal attack (or even vandalism)? If he continues to replace my statements with fabrications, what are my options? Can I remove my comments entirely from his talk page, or would that be vandalism?<br /> <br /> This has got me creeped out a bit. The only reason I noticed it was because for some reason his talk page was still on my watchlist. For all I know, others could be doing this whose talk pages I no longer watch. What am I supposed to do about this sort of character assassination? [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:38, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> P.S. Please reply on this talk page only, if he's watching my page I don't want him tipped off, or to start harassing you, too! [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If he's really watching, he may be monitoring everything that you post. So he may see this anyway. But nobody has the right to change what you have written as signed comments on a discussion page (for an article or for a user). Although I rarely do so, it is an instantly blockable offence. It wouldn't take many instances of this for me to strongly consider a permanent block (though this would never happen for an anonymous IP). I'll often just issue a stern warning the first time I see it, though. The vandals are often simply children who don't know how to behave. As to whether you have the right to revert changes made to your words, you ''most certainly'' do. It's worth following up with a statement along the lines of: &quot;Changing other people's signed comments is considered [[WP:Vandalism|vandalism]] and many admins will block on sight. Please do not do this again. It is dishonest and easy to track down.&quot; Note that [[WP:OWN]] tends to imply that people can change what you right but the difference here is someone is essentially trying to fraudulently claim '''you''' have written something other than what you did. Stay away from legal threats, though; those are also an instantly banable offence. As to the more general problem, that your comments could have been changed on numerous other pages, this is certainly true. Most of the time (in my experience), the changes aren't particularly well done. And there's always the edit history. Still, it's kind of a pain that this can happen. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Kasreyn, please feel free to remove this entire section (your comments and my comments) if this makes you more comfortable. Alternatively, I can archive this talk page again if you prefer. I'm just as happy leaving the comments here, but hey. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Hey, thanks! I didn't expect such speedy and decisive action. Hmm, I don't oppose removing this section if you want to, but I don't really think it's important any more - being blocked, he can only edit his own talk page, right? Or is he only blocked from main space? Let's just leave this here, in any case. I'll also give WP:OWN a reread and try to learn more. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 03:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I believe he can only edit his page. I don't actually know for certain, though. He may be able to edit your talk page as well, for example, but I don't believe that's the case. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 04:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Look out ====<br /> <br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APuckmv&amp;diff=53086371&amp;oldid=52946567 Puckmv]'s going to make Wikipedia &quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/ Fair and balanced]&quot; ¬_¬ Here we go again. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 05:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm surprised you waste your breath. Politician818 seems confused as to why I haven't replied to his endless attempts at conversation on my talk page. His attitude, and puck's, are enough to know they aren't worth my time. By replying, all you're doing is becoming the target of more attacks. You've disagreed with them, therefore you're now a liberal conspirator like me; nothing you say will be believed. It's best to not even waste the time. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 14:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== {{user|209.221.73.5}} ====<br /> <br /> Looks like this IP you blocked for a week before is back and vandalizing pages again: <br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338333]<br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iran&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338165]<br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genital_bisection&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338001]. Feel free to deal with him. Thanks, --[[User:Kashk|''' - K a s h ''']]&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Kashk|Talk]] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kashk email]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Ciara====<br /> Why was the information I included to Ciara's article REMOVED? This is unfair. It is correct. Every time I add information to an article, I'm always putting wrong information. --unsigned comments from [[User:Charmed36|Charmed36]] ([[User talk:Charmed36|talk]])<br /> :As I pointed out to you, you must [[WP:CITE|cite]] your additions. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====[[Punk Rocker]]====<br /> Why did you say I added nonsense to the [[Emma Watson]] page on 5th May, when I thought that the information I added was perfectly valid. {{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 16:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :As I noted in the edit comment, you are claiming that the provided [http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue238/news.html citation] notes her favourite fashion designers. It does not. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I GOT MY INFORMATION FROM A VALID SOURCE! IT WAS AN INTERVIEW WITH EMMA IN A MAGAZINE. SHE MENTIONED THAT SHE LIKES HIP HOP MUSIC. {{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 20:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> By the way, why didn't you give me a 3rd level warning.{{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 20:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :Well, you can read [[WP:CITE]] to learn how to include a citation for this information. I did not give you a test3 because you had already received four prior warnings, some from me and some from [[User:RadioKirk]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====[[Reply to message you left me]]====<br /> Hi Yamla, I got your message about the Hilary Duff edit. I saw the page had been vandalised and so I went to the wikipedia page to learn how to revert pages to their pre-vandalised state. I followed the instructions and, as far as I can tell, I reverted the page. I'm not sure what happened to lead to your accusation of vandalism. That was not my intent. I would appreciate it if you would rescind my warning. Thanks. --unsigned comments from [[User:162.83.244.94|162.83.244.94]] ([[User talk:162.83.244.94|talk]])<br /> <br /> :This appears to be the case. I have removed the warning I left on your page. I suspected the vandal had simply switched to another IP address and was continuing vandalising. I see that this was not the case and that you were trying to revert the vandalism. I'm sorry for leaping to conclusions. Thanks for your efforts! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====[[slapshot10]]====<br /> I am very curious... why do you consider Planet Students a spam message when it: (1) is completely free for students, (2) was built by students, (3) is intended and does save students thousands of dollars? Why for example is [http://my-u.ca] on UofC page allowed? Did I post our link poorly? Please explain. [[User:Slapshot10|Slapshot10]] 20:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please read [[WP:EL]] and [[WP:SPAM]]. I cannot comment on [http://my-u.ca] as I did not see that link being added. It is entirely possible that that link should be removed as well. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[Vandal]] ====<br /> <br /> I believe this user ([[User talk:205.127.250.70]]) is a vandal. He/She has posted one comment, yet it's content is a clear attempt at vandalism. Furthermore, in his/her &quot;talk&quot;, he/she said, &quot;YOU ARE A FATTY&quot; when I stated he/she was a vandal. [[User:MichaelZ526|MichaelZ526]] 21:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[JasonBourne2007]] ====<br /> <br /> EWS23 and I have had an ongoing discussion regarding the House, MD wiki. Please make note of that before you revert my changes, which we agreed are acceptable for the wiki article. Please feel free to join our discussion on the House, MD article under article discussion. Thank you!<br /> :Sorry, Jason. I spend most of my time here removing vandalism and link spam and sometimes mistake appropriate edits. Won't happen again (well, not to you hopefully). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks Yamla. It's not a problem at all! If you ever need a MD medical professionals opinion on a wiki article, feel free to message me! [[User:JasonBourne2007|JasonBourne2007]] 20:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== {{user|70.251.128.3}} ====<br /> <br /> We received a complaint via [[m:OTRS|OTRS]] (Ticket number 2006051210001527) that you blocked a user at this IP. It is, in all likelihood, a dynamic IP address, and the user is no longer blocked. However, after reviewing the user contributions and your block log, it seems that the IP address made a number of contributions prior to May 11, and then you warned, warned again, and then blocked for copyright violation (1 month!!!!!) without providing the user an opportunity to respond to your warnings. <br /> <br /> I have unblocked the IP address. Please be a bit more careful. [[User:Bastique|'''B'''astique]]&lt;span class=&quot;Unicode&quot; style=&quot;color:#FF72E3;&quot;&gt;&amp;#09660;&lt;/span&gt;'''&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Bastique|parler]]&lt;/sup&gt;''' &lt;sub&gt;'''[[Special:Contributions/Bastique|voir]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; 18:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm sorry, I thought we took copyright violation seriously. The user had an opportunity to respond to my claims of vandalism (or blanking) (second set of vandalism occurred after the first warning, I think you are getting confused by the time zones), but was blocked due to blatant copyright infringement, not due to vandalism. Given that the user appeared to be a blatant vandal also committing blatant copyright infringement, the block seemed reasonable at the time. Additionally, my understanding is that sbcglobal (the user's ISP) gives out IP addresses on very long leases (that is, the IP was semi-static and unlikely to change in motnhs). I will enforce shorter blocks in the future, however, even for users like this one with no productive contributions. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Nude celebrities ====<br /> Thanks for the comments, though I fully expect my changes to be reverted any second now. [[User:Tregoweth|tregoweth]] 22:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Zennie====<br /> Greetings. There's nothing wrong with adding an external link to one's site if -- and only if -- that link adds value to the content. I think there's also a kind of knee-jerk desire to -- one the part of some &quot;policers&quot; -- harm those who have websites of their own. Remember, blogs contribute to the communication of information on various aspects of society. Please do not threaten to have one banned for adding content -- even if it benefits that person's blog. It goes against the nature of the Internet and in the sprit of that perspective such action will be met with an equal reaction, thus banning the policer. It's a little much, your reaction. People commonly go from one site to the other; it's not appropriate or sound to get upset about this common online dynamic. --unsigned comments from [[User:Zennie|Zennie]] ([[User talk:Zennie|talk]])<br /> :Sorry, the sites you are adding are inappropriate for Wikipedia. This has already been pointed out to you. I suggest you reread [[WP:EL]] and [[WP:SPAM]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yamia, your interpretation of the Wikiepedia rules is wrong and off-base. Not including a &quot;commericial&quot; website means you would have to elminate 90 percent of the links installed in this system, including very relevant links to -- for example -- a MySpace page. That's a commercial link. I suggest some training in Internet history and function, because you're not understanding of how this works and therefore present a danger to others - Zennie<br /> <br /> :A great many of the links on Wikipedia are irrelevant. However, commercial websites are appropriate in many circumstances. A link to Microsoft's website is entirely appropriate on [[Microsoft]], for example. Similarly, a link to [[Wil Wheaton]]'s MySpace page (if he has one) is appropriate on his page. However, these are special cases. Please read [[WP:EL]] to understand what is and is not appropriate. The fact that links are appropriate on the Internet at large does not imply that they are appropriate on the Wikipedia. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Again, I ask that you stop this rather pavolvian habit. It's damanging the free flow of information online. Moreover, you do this not in the sprit of Wikipedia's design, but in the need to satistfy only your view of the World. That's not right or good. --unsigned comments from [[User:Zennie|Zennie]]<br /> <br /> :::Please read [[WP:NOT]]. Wikipedia is '''not''' a link repository. Also, please note that new comments go to the bottom of my discussion page. Thanks. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In [[User talk:Mtz206#Zennie|response]]: Unless Zennie continues to post inappropriate links after your additional warnings and subsequent discussion, I would consider the matter closed. Up to you on the RfC, but it doesn't seem like a major conflict other than just dueling opinions on Talk space. If it ends up to be an edit-war, then that's a horse of another color. Nevertheless, I'll post another reminder of the policy on Zennie's talk page. (on the GU FDL issue, I have no opinion) --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] 18:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I haven't intervened regarding the GFDL issue, so there's not much I can offer the RfC. --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] ([[User talk:Mtz206|talk]]) 21:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Thanks====<br /> Thanks for this while I was away: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mtz206&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=54078427]. --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] 20:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Apple Intel transition ====<br /> <br /> um, why did you revert the changes? in article [[Apple Intel transition]]? Windows and Windowsing systems and Microsoft Windows are three diffrent things.--[[User:Mayz|Mayz]] 01:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I reverted your changes because, with the possible exception of the first case, it was obvious from the context what was being referred to. Note, for example, that you have a windowing system, not a Windowsing system. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::well, i actually dont see any harm in specifying what it is being talked about, even if you think that the context is clear! by the way , didnt change Windows XP to Microsoft Windows XP because i thought that the name and the context was self explaining! i ask you to revert your revert or at least revert selectively if you please (and if you see fit). sorry for the bad english but its not my mother tongue, and by the way, just for the fun of it, try reading the sentences with the windows as if they reffered to windows in houses and cars :) --[[User:Mayz|Mayz]] 02:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Reply to the message you sent me ====<br /> <br /> Ummm...every timne I try to do something, it's always deleted. Lot of other artist have song lists. How come P!nk can't?<br /> <br /> :At the time you added the song list and the time you left this message, that page did not exist. That's why it was removed. So long as you properly [[WP:CITE|cite]] the song list and format it suitably for Wikipedia, the song list would be an appropriate addition. At the moment, of course, that page needs considerable work. But once again, the reason I reverted your addition was that the page simply didn't exist at the time. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Okay. Well, I kind finished it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P%21nk_Songs- Hill03<br /> <br /> ==== Good Job Genius ====<br /> <br /> Another scathing remark from a moron who doesn't understand what a dynamic ip is. Next time keep your comments to users and don't go off the deep end with your egotistical cynicism. -Random IP ([[User:71.125.149.140|71.125.149.140]], [[User talk:71.125.149.140|talk]])<br /> <br /> ==== Peas picture deleted quickly ====<br /> <br /> Why was the BEP photo deleted so quickly? The &quot;warning&quot; template you added noted it would be deleted in a week. It seems to have been deleted immediately, though. Also, MANY other artists' pages include promotional photos (See [[Eminem]] for instance, among other groups and acts) so why wasn't the uploader simply allowed to include the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Promophoto}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template to answer the Copyvio challenge you made against it? Not a huge issue here. It wasn't me who used the picture. I'm just wondering. [[User:Nhprman|Nhprman]] 22:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Promophoto}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag was incorrect. The copyright violation was blatant, the uploader even claimed that the picture was scanned in from a magazine. Thus, I believed it qualified under [[WP:Copyvio]] for speedy deletion. Do you think I was incorrect? Do you think even though the copyvio was blatant, we should have left it in place for seven days? (That's a serious question, I could be wrong that copyvios should be dealt with immediately if they are blatant). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::You are probably right. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't catch the user's earlier comments and it appeared as if it was a staged promotional photo. [[User:Nhprman|Nhprman]] 02:55, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== PROD ====<br /> <br /> Hi, just to let you know I [[WP:PROD|prodded]] [[The Terror Mansion]] article by [[User:70%]] because it was written by a vandal user. (Incidentally it is written in an unencyclopedic style.) Cheers, --[[User:unforgettableid|unforgettableid]] | [[User_talk:unforgettableid|talk to me]] 16:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Monica Bellucci information ====<br /> <br /> You've asked me to site my sources for the information that I've posted on the Monica Bellucci Wiki listing... well, my reference to her Agnosticism comes from a quote available on one of the pages that I added as a link. And I added the link expressly for the purpose of varification of that quote. By removing the link, you removed my verifycation. The two sites that I added are not commercial nor are they my personal sites. Whereas the iMDB is a commercial site, charging for some of their services and embedding a broad range of commerical advertisements in their pages.<br /> <br /> This Agnosticism quote has also been posted on an iMDB discussion forum. It shouldn't be too hard to find. The thread is called ''Monica and Religion'' and the original poster of the quote posted under the username '''Ilana04'''. <br /> <br /> Also, as I said, the quote is repeated on a fansite for Ms Bellucci at [http://www.monica-bellucci.net/]. This is the best I can do to verify this quote, as it most likely appeared in a magazine published outside the US, and I don't know the publication or the date.<br /> <br /> As to verifying my reference to her posing nude in protest of the Italian laws against in-vitro vetilization, that information comes from several articles in magazines to which Ms Bellucci has given interviews, including the original magazine she posed for- the Italian edition of Vanity Fair in June of 2004.<br /> <br /> I don't know if this can be varified on line, or via the internet, but the issue of the magazine did exist in print at that time.<br /> <br /> This was also referenced in an interview that Monica gave to Film magazine in tendem with the release of her film, The Brothers Grimm.<br /> <br /> There was also a reference to this on a website called contactmusic.com in their news section, dated for June 8, 2004.<br /> <br /> I have all of this information right here at my fingertips, in printed form, but I do not have any internet links as I don't have my printer set to display headers and footers and it has been some time since I printed the articles.<br /> <br /> As to her appearng nude in films, I make those references because I have seen the films. The nude calendars a referenced on her Biography page in the trivia section on iMDB. There is also a site that has scanned images of each page of the calendars- [http://bellucci.utopiax.org/index.html Monica Bellucci Utopiax]<br /> <br /> I did not post any varifycation of my information within the aritcle itself because I felt it would look too cluttered and have an adversarial feel about it, as if I were trying to rebuff anyone who read the article and say &quot;here's the proof... so there !!&quot;<br /> <br /> I realize you will, most likely, remove the information that I have added because I cannot give you varifycation of that information that you can easily verify on your computer. But I have not posted anything untrue about Ms Bellucci. I can prove all of it, but only via printed hard copies of internet articles that have most likely been removed from the net, or from magazines that I have in print-form.<br /> <br /> --[[User:NilaLaniera|NilaLaniera]] 20:56, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the followup. IMDB is not a particularly reliable source of information and most certainly, fansites such as the one you list above are insufficient for [[WP:CITE]]. I'm sure the vast majority of your information is correct, nevertheless. If you could please readd the information from reliable and [[WP:Verifiability|verifiable]] sources, [[WP:CITE|cited]] appropriately, I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Full responses to this on [[User talk:NilaLaniera]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Macbook Pro &quot;Vandalism&quot; ====<br /> <br /> I changed the [[Macbook Pro]] article as the specifications of it has changed. It is no longer 1.83 / 2.0 / 2.16<br /> <br /> The 1.83 model has been discontinued AS WRITTEN IN THE MACBOOK ARTICLE.<br /> <br /> You can double check these changes by checking here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=925997E8&amp;nclm=MacBookPro<br /> <br /> Thankyou. --unsigned comments from [[User:220.233.76.24|220.233.76.24]] ([[User talk:220.233.76.24|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Yes, but the article is describing the MacBook Pro in general, not only the ''current'' edition of it. For that reason, the information that it was available with a 1.83 Ghz CPU needs to remain. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Cheerleading====<br /> Why were 66.82.9.87's edits reverted? It seems to me that a slightly more thorough discussion of cheerleaders' stereotypical status as &quot;sex symbols&quot; would be more NPOV than the blunt statement &quot;Cheerleaders are often viewed as sex symbols.&quot; 66.82.9.87's edits might not have been the best writing in the world, but it is NOT &quot;nonsense.&quot; [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 19:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Inherently point-of-view. The backbone of the sports team? &quot;...supercedes the sexual overtones&quot;? It may be true, but I have seen no evidence that this is how they are generally perceived, and some of my friends are cheerleaders. That change could ''certainly'' stay if [[WP:CITE|cited]] appropriately but it just didn't ring true. I've never heard ''anyone'' describe cheerleaders as the backbone of the sports team, for example. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I concede that the &quot;backbone&quot; line is pretty useless. I'm even willing to concede that &quot;supercedes the sexual overtones&quot; isn't properly cited--I don't know the precise citing rules (although I do appreciate the link in your message above). However, giving 66.82.9.87 a warning for '''vandalism'''? That seems extreme, especially after I took the time to read the [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] page. Bad edits don't automatically equal vandalism, do they? I'm sure that 66.82.9.87 was editing in good faith. [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 13:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, it looked just like petty vandalism. If you prefer, though, I'll clear the warning from that page. Let me know. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::That would be great. I think that these edits (on Cheerleading, anyway) are more of an [[Wikipedia:NPOV dispute|NPOV violation]] than actual vandalism. I guess my main complaint is that the writing was deemed &quot;nonsense&quot;. If the warning had been something more like &quot;This is an NPOV problem&quot; or &quot;Your work needs to be cited&quot;, then I wouldn't have a bit of a problem with it. Anyway, thanks. [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 13:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Done. Although that IP address has a history of vandalism, that particular problem was a NPOV violation, as you point out. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Just Letting You Know====<br /> I saw on the 3LW site that the CD is goming out on August, 15th so I'am just letting you know I might change it. please dont get mad thank you for reading this.(UTC)<br /> <br /> [[Category:Canadian Wikipedia administrators|{{subst:Yamla}}]]<br /> [[Category:Wikipedians in Edmonton|{{subst:Yamla}}]]<br /> <br /> ==== I'm so confused ====<br /> How did I vandalize pages? What did I do to Liv Tyler's article. WHAT? [[User:Shamir1|Shamir1]] 03:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In what way is Liv Tyler Native American? She may be as much as one eighth (though possibly considerably less) Native American but that doesn't make ''her'' Native American. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Vandalism ====<br /> <br /> You said: In what way is Liv Tyler Native American? She may be as much as one eighth (though possibly considerably less) Native American but that doesn't make her Native American<br /> <br /> Umm, I would NOT call that vandalizing pages, first of all. Secondly, take a look at the other actors in [[Category:Native American actors]]. Very few of them are full or even half. That category is just for actors with Native American somewhere in their blood whether it be 1/2, 1/4, 1/8... Just like under Irish-American actors, many are 1/2 or 1/4, but unfortunately there are more Americans who trace their roots to Ireland than in the Americas. That is why even actors who have a slight amount of Native American or American Indian heritage, if it is mentionable and has been, there is no reason why they should not be listed in that category along with the others. [[User:Shamir1|Shamir1]] 04:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I '''strongly''' disagree. Even Liv Tyler doesn't identify herself as Native American. Nevertheless, while I firmly disagree, I'll let your edits stand. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 04:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I've gotten in arguments over this before, and in general I think Wikipedia needs stronger standards on listing ethnicity of people. A lot of the ethnicities people add tend to be unsourced. But two in particular cause thorny issues, being Native American and Jewish ethnicity. For some reason, many people in America seem to fixate upon claiming Native American ancestry for themselves, usually based on a family legend that some great-grandmother was Native American. [[Vine Deloria, Jr.]]'s excellent book ''Custer Died for Your Sins'' puts forward a credible explanation of this cultural phenomenon, I highly recommend it. The other ethnicity that can cause issues is Judaism, because there is a great deal of disagreement over whether it is a religion or an ethnicity, and also because to some people it has become a loaded term. Do you know of any page that covers Wiki guidelines on including tags relating to ethnicity? Because so far I've been approaching it by the seat of my pants. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 09:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Licensing and my deleted images ====<br /> <br /> Hello Yamla,<br /> Thank you so much for your helpfulness! I have changed some details in my disouted image profile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scarlettj_vogue0405.jpg) attaching the fair use rationale for the file. I hope that it will be acceptable. Sorry about now having added it before but I think I simply missed this part when reading the text in the box under the image. Regarding my deleted scannings, another user had warned me that they weren't of low-resolution so I removed them. Please forgive me if I have caused you any inconvenience or trouble, I am new in this place but I will be more careful next time. Thanks again. Best wishes from [[User:ErikaG|ErikaG]] 21:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Paris Hilton Fansite ====<br /> Wikipedia allows one fansite link for a page. therefore im putting www.hiltonfan.com for Paris Hilton as external link. thanks. [[User:Grace Kalenda|Grace Kalenda]] 03:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No. [[WP:EL]] says, &quot;On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such.&quot; hiltonfan is a relatively new fansite and can hardly be considered a ''major'' fansite. Additionally, Paris Hilton doesn't really have many fansites. Finally, that information is in the &quot;Occasionally acceptable links&quot; section. The site is inappropriate. Do not add it back. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Another question ====<br /> <br /> Hi, it's me again. I just want to ask if I put the fair use rationale for my image on this page /http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scarlettj_vogue0405.jpg/ in the right place because I haven't seen the fair use rationale in other users' image profiles. Thanks in advance. [[User:ErikaG|ErikaG]] 18:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, the problem with this particular image is that it is '''not''' appropriate to use simply to illustrate the person. It can only be used to illustrate the publication of the magazine. In this particular case, it would be reasonable to use this in the [[Scarlett Johansson]] article if there's discussion about that particular Vogue magazine. You'd probably get by if you noted that Ms. Johansson has modelled for a number of magazines, appearing on the front cover of many including Vogue. This is a tricky matter made harder because the use of another magazine cover in the [[Naomi Campell]] article is almost certainly not fair-use. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Angelina Jolie ====<br /> <br /> I thought magazine covers were acceptable? [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Magazine covers are legitimate (provided you provide a detailed fair-use rationale, provided the title is clearly visible, etc.) but that image was ''clearly'' not a magzine cover (or if so, had the title removed, though I think I remember the magazine and it had an entirely different cover). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Could it count as promotional material then? And why do you believe that the lower back tattoo article needs to be deleted? [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::No, ''most definitely not''. It did not come from a promotional kit. It's a clear copyright violation. It's just a scan of an inner page of a magazine. As to why the lower back tattoo article should be deleted (and I only prod'ed it, not marked it for deletion) is explained therein... I don't think it is notable when we already have an article on tattoos. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Very well. But I am against your decision to &quot;prod'ed&quot; the [[Lower back tattoo]], because the main tattoo article does not go into detail, nor does it provide pop culture references (a section that I plan on expanding in the near future). [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I believe the [[tattoo]] article could easily incorporate all of the information in the [[lower back tattoo]] article. However, you have convinced me that this is not clearcut, and you have made a productive start on the article itself. I'll remove the prod and leave you to develop the article. If later nominated for deletion, I will reevaluate and vote accordingly. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Thanks for your patience. I will tag the article for clean up until I get a chance to edit and expand it. And in terms of licensing, what catgorey would [http://www.sunfyre.com/angelinajolie.htm this image] fall under? It has been featured in several publications, so I assume it must be under public domain. But then again, I know very little when it comes to copy right laws. [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Given that the page you list blatantly violates copyright on a number of other pictures included therein, I strongly suggest you don't incorporate that image. However, leaving aside the web page's blatant copyright violations, the page itself claims to be &quot;Copyright 2004 Jason Tweed and Sunfyre.com, All Rights Reserved.&quot;. That means (if true, which is clearly not the case) that the image would be copyrighted and in this case, no fair-use justification could be provided. &quot;Promotional&quot; can only be used if it came from a promotional kit (basically). Copyright and fair use is a bitch. Much of what gets used on Wikipedia is a violation, unfortunately. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Damn. Oh well, I'm at least glad I notified you before I wasted my time uploading another image. Thanks for your help [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 02:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== severina ====<br /> <br /> hi yamla, i recently came accross the severina vickovic article and IMO the last paragraph is POV and rather badly written. i ve tried to fix some things up but an anon would revert. i would like to know your opinion on the matter. you might find it useful to have a look at the discussion pg first. best--[[User:Greece666|Greece666]] 23:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sorry, I've been busy and forgot to respond to this one. I'll keep a closer eye on that article in the near future. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::thx for your reply yamla--[[User:Greece666|Greece666]] 02:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Re:Fair use====<br /> You placed a notice about [[:Image:Brazilinvasion7.png]]. I have had the image deleted and put a text box in its place for the article. Thank you for pointing out. Regards, --&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;[[User:Anirudhsbh|'''A'''ndy'''123''']]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;small&gt; &lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;[[User talk:Anirudhsbh|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 12:27, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS ====<br /> <br /> THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS FROM MARIA SHARAPOVA PAGE.<br /> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND REMEMBER: DO NOT DELETING MY LINKS.<br /> ALL OF THEM ARE APPROPRIATE. REMEMBER IT! --unsigned comments from [[User:Gooverup|Gooverup]] ([[User talk:Gooverup|talk]])<br /> <br /> ==== THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS ====<br /> <br /> THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS FROM MARIA SHARAPOVA PAGE.<br /> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND REMEMBER: DO NOT DELETING MY LINKS.<br /> ALL OF THEM ARE APPROPRIATE. REMEMBER IT! [[User:Gooverup|gooverup]] 15:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please stop posting duplicate messages on my talk page. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> A link on Nude celebrities on the Internet to a site WITH PORN IS MUCH INAPPROPRIATE. I'M TALKING ABOUT The Case Files of the Fake Detective YOU UNDERSTAND ME CLEARLY? I DELETE THIS LINK. DO NOT REVERT IT AGAIN! [[User:Gooverup|gooverup]] 15:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That web site is specifically appropriate to the whole subject of celebrity fakes. It has, for example, been covered in Wired Magazine. --Yamla 15:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== You're pathetic ====<br /> <br /> Don't ever send me another message. Also, Yamla, please look up the definition of vandalism, idiot. Freak. Seriously, you're '''pathetic'''. Oh, you're harrassing me, btw. --unsigned comments from [[User:75.2.177.121|75.2.177.121]] ([[User talk:75.2.177.121|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Vandalism warning was appropriate, your vandalism was reverted by three separate people. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[Nude celebrities on the Internet]] and [[WP:3RR]] ====<br /> <br /> You've already passed [[WP:3RR]] I suggest you stop and try engaging in discussion, further activity could result in you being blocked form editing. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]&lt;sup&gt;(&lt;font color=&quot;mediumseagreen&quot;&gt;[[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;)&lt;/sup&gt; 17:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, if you check, you'll find that I have ''not'' broken 3RR. I have made at most three reverts and in fact, the reverts were not to the same version of the article as I added a warning note about partial nudity. Furthermore, I have tried to engage Gooverup in discussion. Additionally, I am not the only person reverting Gooverup's changes. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: My mistake you've made 3 reverts. If you are the only one reverting or not is irrelevant, the rule is to prevent disruption due to edit warring, so trying to engage the other editor is the correct thing to do. I have also warned him. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]&lt;sup&gt;(&lt;font color=&quot;mediumseagreen&quot;&gt;[[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;)&lt;/sup&gt; 17:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I understand that and actually had planned to stop reverting for 24 hours. As to not being the only one reverting, I mention this because I believe my reversions would qualify as reverting vandalism, though obviously this is not clear-cut. Best for me to bow out for at least 24 hours which is what I'll do. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Yeah Poliwiki====<br /> Hey wtf I was trying to fix that website (wilmer valderrama) you should then fix that for me, he actually lived in venezuela since he was 3 years old (he later moved to miami), whatever (check that out in any website). <br /> <br /> &quot;Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Wilmer Valderrama. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox.&quot;<br /> <br /> I recommend you to take the time to write the warning message instead of copying and pasting the same sentence.<br /> <br /> You should get a real job. --unsigned comments from [[User:200.8.22.154|200.8.22.154]] ([[User talk|200.8.22.154|talk]])<br /> <br /> :You changed his place of birth. This is simply not true. [http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Lot/9547/urban.html He was born in Miami, Florida]. This information is readily available from hundreds of sites on the Internet. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Significant problems Respond====<br /> But these movies im making are real movies! And YouTube is the only source to release my movies! And I already released ''[[Chocolate's Web]]''! This is YOUR last warning. --IKR1 07:20, 27 May 2006 (PT)<br /> <br /> :Your movies aren't [[WP:N|notable]] and are almost certain to be deleted. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This dosent make any sense! Im trying to spread the word of my movies and the're up for deletion? What makes you so special to delete my films?--IKR1 11:50, 28 May 2006 (PT)<br /> <br /> ::First, as has been repeatedly pointed out to you, Wikipedia is [[WP:NOT]] to be used for advertising. Secondly, as has also been repeatedly pointed out to you, your films are simply not [[WP:N|notable]]. Additionally, they are blatant copyright infringements of the original movies. Finally, anyone can nominate any page for deletion. Of course, if you do so without justification, you'll be blocked. But as you can see, the common consensus is that these pages are not worthy of Wikipedia articles. Please go and read [[WP:NOT]] and [[WP:N]]. One final note, if you really are 11 years old, you are violating YouTube's conditions of use as well. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Unwarranted warning====<br /> <br /> You gave me a warning and i wasnt even rude? Do you like Fawlty Towers? I love the bit where Fawlty says &quot;You stupid stuck up toffy-nosed half-witted upperclass pile of puss!&quot;. Don't you? Anyway, thats off the point. Dont get my intentions wrong, I was just quoting one my favourite sitcom lines. thats all. --{{unsigned|82.24.117.210}}<br /> :This user was warned because of the personal attack made in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARed_hair&amp;diff=55267359&amp;oldid=55243691 these edits]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> I assure you, you got it completely wrong...that was not my intention. Oh, i just thought of another great movie quote from Hostel which goes &quot;you fucking bitch&quot;. I forget who said it, but it was a great scene. do you like the film, have you seen it? --from [[User:Edgovan20|Edgovan20]] ([[User talk:Edgovan20|talk]])<br /> NO! it was NOT a personal attack. Ok...get it right!! I was just talking about one of my favourite movies. Dont edit what i say. {{unsigned|Edgovan20}}<br /> :I have never edited any of your signed comments, only noted who said them. And to prevent confusion, no more quotes from movies in such a way as could be interpreted as a personal attack. They are either entirely pointless (a non-sequitur) or thinly-veiled personal attacks. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> How is it pointless? Its engaging a social conversation. I think you have given me another warning, and it is completely unwarranted. You may interpret what I say as being a personal attact, but you cant know for sure. You didnt tell me I wasnt allowed to have a conversation with you about my favourite movies, but if you feel that strongly about it then I wont. And yet, without any irrefutable or even substancial evidence I think you have given me another warning. I have the right to be innocent until proven guilty, i should think. Also, do you have a job, you seem to always be here. --[[User:edgovan20|ed]] <br /> <br /> <br /> ====[[Yellowcard]]====<br /> '''Hi, there!'''<br /> I saw that you've contributed to the [[Yellowcard]] page. I've been working hard all weekend to get it into an encyclopedia-worthy article, and I think we're almost there!<br /> <br /> There's a short list of things that still need some work at the bottom of the [[Talk:Yellowcard|talk page]]. If you could take a look at it, maybe add more things to do, or clean up whatever you see needs work, I would sure appreciate it.<br /> <br /> Thanks for your help. Have an awesome day! [[User:Cathryn|Cathryn]] 09:55, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====[[User:Gooverup|Gooverup]]====<br /> <br /> Thanks for the heads up. I was under the belief that removing warnings was vandalism, but apparently I was mistaken. Thanks again. [[User:Irishguy|IrishGuy]] 16:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Yamla...gruesome being ====<br /> <br /> ''This nigga think he hard'' {{unsigned|Cerealnigg}}<br /> <br /> ==== Prod of Rough Science Boys: The Movie ====<br /> <br /> Although the page is deleted ([[Rough Science Boys: The Movie]]) so I can't use diffs, you incorrectly replaced a removed [[WP:PROD|Prod]] tag, then erroneously warned [[User_talk:IKR1#Removing_tags|the remover]].<br /> <br /> The way that Prod works, is that if anyone (especially the article's creator) removes the Prod then no one can replace it, other means must be used. The remover is under no obligation to fix-up the article. Please familiarise yourself with [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion]], cheers, [[User:Commander Keane|Commander Keane]] 07:38, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :My apologies. I'll just nominate the article for deletion in the future. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== The image being used for the entry, Karima Adebibe ====<br /> <br /> Thanks for your message. I'll be honest with you, i haven't been using Wikipedia long, and I haven't got a clue what you were talking about in the message you sent me regarding image rights, etc. If you think it will be a problem, please feel free to remove the image or replace it with another one.<br /> <br /> ==== Bollywood Saga ====<br /> <br /> [[User_talk:Reaverdrop#Fair_use|Fair enough.]] - [[User:Reaverdrop|'''Reaverdrop''']] &lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Reaverdrop|talk]]/[[:nl:Gebruiker:Reaverdrop|nl]]/[[WP:SPACE|wp:space]])&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 16:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====IKR1====<br /> I've sent him a message, focusing on one of his articles in particular ([[Chocolate's Web]]). I basically said I'm willing to help him, if he can establish that the movie is notable. Which is true: if the article meets the criteria, I'm all for keeping it up and expanding it. I suspect the reviews/support don't exist to support notability, though, but maybe I played a card explaining why the rule is there and that no, you can't advertise your movie here, but you can have an article about it ''after'' it becomes famous.<br /> <br /> Although, I do have to say that I'd be mortified if anybody dragged out &quot;The Day of the Rubber Chicken&quot;—which I wrote in 8th or 9th grade—and did a critical analysis of it, so I'm rather happy it doesn't and never will have an article. :) —'''[[User:Cfred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:Cfred|talk]]) 23:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Re: African American==<br /> Opps! I just read that message,sorry but I always correct it.But, Wikipedia says &quot;'''FEEL FREE TO EDIT A PAGE'''&quot;.If you can explain your explanation '''PLEASE''', write back to me on my disscusion page.'''Thanks'''!<br /> <br /> P.S.no offence.really.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[User:Gemini531|Gemini531]] 01:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Re: Revision deletion ==<br /> <br /> I saw your note on ANI about needing to delete personal information, and from looking at the oversight log, it doesn't look like it was done. If you'll point out the revision that needs to be removed, either on my talk page or by email, I'll pull it from the history. &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana&quot;&gt;[[User:Essjay|&lt;font color=&quot;#7b68ee&quot;&gt;'''Essjay'''&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;font color=&quot;#7b68ee&quot;&gt;(&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Essjay|&lt;font color=&quot;#7b68ee&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/font&gt;]] • [[User:Essjay/Contact|&lt;font color=&quot;#7b68ee&quot;&gt;Connect&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 08:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)</div>

82.24.117.210 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yamla&diff=55546173 2006-05-28T09:15:30Z

<p>82.24.117.210: Unwarranted warning</p> <hr /> <div>==Archive==<br /> <br /> [[User talk:Yamla/Archive1|Archive]] (from [[Dec 16]], [[2004]] - [[April 17]], [[2006]])<br /> <br /> ==2006==<br /> <br /> Hey sorry, wow I didnt even realise it was ACTUALLY editing the page, i now understand wikipedias ways. I should have used the sandbox or whatever you said. My bad, sorry.<br /> <br /> Yo.<br /> I'm sorry I wrote all of those things about the black eyed peas, fallout boy, micheal moore and Pete doherty. Oh and the kooks, but what I said wasn't false, that guy is freaking ugly. What the fuck. Emo sucks.<br /> <br /> ===April===<br /> Yamla, thank you for your comments. If I have valuable information or great pictures of an artist, why can't I link it to my webpage? I understand that the information should be included in wikipedia instead, but what about the pictures? Why can't I create a link to my own webpage, however I can add links to other's webpages?<br /> thanks for your response, I am new on wikipedia and I would really like to collaborate. Being part of the team of the Cannes Film Festival and the Monaco TV Festival, we have taken pictures of hundreds of important actors and I think this would really enrich the content of Wikipedia. (About Evangeline Lilly) April 25th,2006<br /> Thanks, Iliana from Biosstars<br /> :I'm sorry, Wikipedia policy dictates that it is inappropriate to add links to these sorts of sites to Wikipedia articles. Please read [[WP:EL]] for information on what external links are appropriate. You should never add a link to a site you run, which means the entire Biosstars website cannot be added by you. More generally, a collection of pictures, while a useful web resource, is not particularly valuable to an encyclopedia. Now, on the other hand, if one of your pictures can be licensed appropriately (basically, freely licensed), please feel free to add it to an article if the article does not already have a picture. Thanks! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was not nonsense as u suggested, i recommend that YOU double check before coming down hard on ppl who want to contribute lawfully.<br /> Check this out,<br /> <br /> http://entertainment1.sympatico.msn.ca/Celebs/News/ContentPosting.aspx?newsitemid=KP18040609&amp;feedname=CP-SHOWBIZ_V2&amp;show=False&amp;number=0&amp;showbyline=False&amp;subtitle=&amp;detect=&amp;abc=abc -- unsigned comments from [[User:24.43.168.82|24.43.168.82]] ([[User talk:24.43.168.82|talk]])<br /> <br /> :But that's not what you used to [[WP:CITE|cite]] the information you added. The citation you used was [http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue238/news.html this] which says '''nothing''' about her birthday party whatsoever. Additionally, the site you provide references the UK Sun and that is '''most definitely''' a tabloid and not suitable for a Wikipedia [[WP:CITE|citation]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====Suri Cruise====<br /> It was a mistake, I was kidding around and didn't even realize I saved it. Secondly, do people normally get &quot;last warnings&quot; as their first warnings? I have never been accused of vandalizing a page before. And, as far as the subject matter goes, I am sure there has been/is much vandalism on this page as well as on Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes' page, but i fyou look at Holmes' page you'll see that I was actually one of the contributors to that page being named a featured article. Though I understand where you are coming from, I hope you can except my excuse and I'll expect an apology as soon as you get a chance.[[User:AriGold|AriGold]] 22:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks for the apology. I was blocked once before (I think for one hour) for engaging in an edit war with a poster who 3 mods had been told not to do something. I kept reverting the article back to the way the consensus of mods had told the other poster it should be, so I actually thought I was doing the right thing. Needless to say, the other poster was banned for a while, but I was given a banishment as a token punishment for engaging in the edit war. I always knew that would come back to haunt me, ha. I was really ticked off when you gave me that last warning and I too apologize for being kind of mean with my response to you. Glad we worked it out.<br /> <br /> I ment the speedy deletion tag. [[User:Jonathan235|Jonathan235]] 11:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====RED HAIR====<br /> <br /> Wikipedia was having server issues, so I got the &quot;wikimedia server issue page&quot; after I hit the preview button, so I simply posted the update and would check back when things got back to normal. I am pretty consistent with my edits, so no worries. Thanks for being observant. --[[User:Cabanaguy|Cabanaguy]] :)<br /> <br /> ====RE: Vandalism====<br /> <br /> <br /> &quot;Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to [[Ciara]], you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Yamla 17:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)&quot;<br /> <br /> I just updated the charts! And I deleted unconfirmed information (The name &quot;Fever&quot; has never been confirmed) - that's no sign for &quot;vandalism&quot; ... So why should I be blocked?<br /> :You did not [[WP:CITE|cite]] your changes. You've already been warned about that and there's a big warning specifically on the [[Ciara]] page itself. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Hduff2 image====<br /> <br /> hey. I don't really understand...how can I make the photo right? ([[User:CENA LUV|CENA LUV]] 17:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC))<br /> :You claimed that the copyright for that image fell under the terms of the GNU FDL. However, you presented no signed statement from Maxim to this effect. Your best bet would be to scan in the letter you received confirming they have licensed this image under that license. If you did not receive a signed statement from Maxim, your next best bet is to take a look at the [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags]] and find the appropriate one. I am not aware, however, of any fair-use justification for using that image on that page. In other words, I suspect there's no way we can use the image without violating copyright. Image copyright is a tricky thing. You generally are not permitted to use magazine scans on the Wikipedia. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====thanks====<br /> <br /> Thank you for your help with the [[Reese Witherspoon]] article. Greatly appreciated! --[[User:Marysunshine|Marysunshine]] 22:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Why do we need a CITE to hear a pitch? I guess this is were I have a problem because like it or not, the entertainment companies are not packing them in to test their abilities scientifically. This is just one of those areas where it is easy to hear whether a pitch is high or low. I think nearly anybody can tell if a pitch is high or &quot;glass-shattering&quot; high. Sorry, just my two cents. [[User:Antares33712|Antares33712]] 16:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::We need a citation because Wikipedia has a policy against [[WP:NOR|original research]], because [[Reese Witherspoon]]'s whistle register abilities are disputed, and because you had already been requested to provide this citation on that article's discussion page. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====RE: Urban Myth====<br /> <br /> Sorry for that. Actually i have got scrap in orkut about how Mr. Orkut earns money out of orkut. I just like to share information with others. If you are saying that the information was wrong then could you tell me how Mr. Orkut and google earns from ORKUT. Please answer this, i am curious about it.<br /> <br /> ====Shattering glass====<br /> <br /> Hi there. I was just browsing and came across the article on [[Whistle register]]. I see that on the talk page [[Talk:Whistle register#Breaking glass|you commented]] (some time ago) about a programme in the 70s/80s where someone demonstrated the &quot;shatter a glass by singing&quot; thing. I wonder: could you be thinking of ''Think of a Number'' (or perhaps its sequel ''Think Again''), a children's maths and science programme presented by [[Johnny Ball]] on the BBC? The dates are right. And I think I saw the same thing :) [[User:Telsa|Telsa]] [[User talk:Telsa|(talk)]] 17:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====tool====<br /> <br /> the website is 99% english with some minor stuff in italian, and i added it under the fansite section, so it's normal for it to be a fansite. put it back :) [[User:Unixer|Unixer]] 15:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :As per [[WP:EL]], at most '''one''' fansite may be appropriate in extreme cases. There's already a fansite on that page so I don't think your addition is appropriate. If you disagree, though, please feel free to bring it up on the article's discussion page and I'll be happy to debate the merits. Thanks! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Sorry====<br /> <br /> yamla i'm brazilian and i have dificults in traslation inglish...my inglish is sucks but i try...sorry for image [P!nk]....is delet now....cause i don't put copyrith because i dont know how make it!!<br /> but i don't pratic vandalism...and please!!!! Stupid girls is #4 in uk charts no #2!!!<br /> thanks hooker<br /> <br /> ====My user talk page....====<br /> <br /> How is it that I can't delete anything from my talk page?<br /> [[User:DarknessProductionsInc|DarknessProductionsInc]] 02:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :The reason you are not permitted is because this serves as a record of what other people have said to you. For example, we can see that you've uploaded several images with problems. If you just delete the comments, it looks like there's never been any problems. Additionally, they are not your words to delete. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You should not delete external links some are good resource. --unsigned comments from [[User:Grace kalenda|Grace kalenda]] ([[User talk:Grace kalenda|talk]])<br /> :Some are, but you are spamming links. Please reread [[WP:EL]] for Wikipedia's external links policy. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Spore release-date====<br /> Yamla, you recently reverted one of my additions (or rather, corrections) to the [[Spore (game)]] page for lack of citation. You're probably right, my source is http://games.telenet.be/index.php?act=one&amp;nid=22377 which talks about the fact that both ebgames.com and gamestop.com have changed their pre-sale shipping date to the 1st of Feb 2007. Not really citable imho, so maybe it's best to keep the information as it is now. Thanks for pointing that out. [[User:Theroachman|Theroachman]] 03:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Deletion of account====<br /> <br /> Is there any way that I could get my account deleted? I just don't care to have an account with Wikipedia anymore. [[User:DarknessProductionsInc|DarknessProductionsInc]] 16:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Please see [[Wikipedia:Account_deletion#Deleting_your_user_account]] for information about deleting user accounts. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====re: Natasha Henstridge====<br /> <br /> No need to introduce that category into the Natasha Henstridge page, she's already listed as belonging to one or more child categories. :) --Yamla 16:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks for bringing up &quot;child categories&quot; to my attention. I realize now that the hierarchy should be sufficient. I've been adding &quot;Canadian actors&quot; to a variety of Wiki bios and maybe many of those should be reverted as well. One question regarding &quot;British Columbia actors&quot; category, which is where I actually started adding to actors/actresses categories. It's also listed as a &quot;child category&quot; so what is the best way to reconcile a &quot;geographical&quot; child category. Maybe that &quot;category&quot; should have been set up differently? [[User:Southsloper|Southsloper]] 08:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Checked out some of the Categories discussions - I'll read some more on those to understand it better and conventions :-) Meanwhile I'll stop adding &quot;Canadian actors&quot; and &quot;British Columbia actors&quot; categories until I understand the whole scheme better. Thanks. [[User:Southsloper|Southsloper]] 09:12, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====red hair====<br /> <br /> I have read your user page, but i do not believe that i have &quot;added non-sense to any article&quot;.<br /> I added this list: [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 15:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> May-Bee, but maybe it also takes a [[Cockney]] expert to proove that. I am not one. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I refer to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_hair&amp;diff=50879704&amp;oldid=50878952 this edit]. I'm sorry but it is complete crap that 'ginger' refers to the Gaiety Theatre on South King Street in Dublin, Ireland. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I completely disagree with this statement of yours. I read the edit, and under the gaining of information about the meaning of words, it has value. Please, stop placing your value-judgements on the edits of others. In this case, you're most inaccurate, and wrong. [[User:Zennie|Zennie]] 9:39 May 19, 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, I provided a citation that Akidd dublin was incorrect (though not here). The original statement on [[Red hair]] was correct, Akidd's edit introduced false information and was later reverted. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Nicknames for people with red/orange hair====<br /> *Tomato<br /> *Redhead<br /> *Ginger<br /> <br /> I do not see &quot;adding vandalism&quot; within this.<br /> The term &quot;ghey&quot; &lt;b&gt;is not scientific&lt;/b&gt;.<br /> I can refuse to spell a non-scientific term (within a official work contract, or something that is compareable to it).<br /> No one can be urged to use &quot;ghey&quot; in a non-scientific sense.<br /> &quot;Cockney&quot; is about, well &quot;free usage of language&quot;, but not about &quot;throwing rotten tomatoes&quot;.<br /> <br /> This is not meant personally.<br /> &lt;b&gt;I suggest that you use the discussion page&lt;/b&gt;: [[Talk:Red_hair]], &lt;u&gt;to communicate about modificatios of the article&lt;/u&gt;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 15:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :A related discussion is taking place on [[Talk:Red hair]]. I have no idea what this user is talking about with &quot;ghey&quot;, however. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It is an alternative spelling of the french word &quot;gai&quot;, which is abused in a non-scientific meaning as of present age (2006). Several references within IRISH songs do not mean &quot;gai&quot; people, but the originial &quot;merriement&quot;. It's not Cockney, but not worlds apart from britain.<br /> I can not proove if the spelling in the article is &quot;wrong&quot; or &quot;right&quot;. Definetively Cockney is not &quot;french&quot;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===May===<br /> <br /> ====Spam complaint====<br /> <br /> My apologies. I am no Spammer. I was merely adding links to a non-commercial movie review site that I thought would add value for your readers -- since the majority of the reviews are for seldom reviewed movies. I will refrain from future edits.<br /> <br /> :No need to refrain from future edits, just please do not add links that violate [[WP:EL]] policy. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====what is vandalism?====<br /> <br /> I am sorry for what was said, but i thought it required to improve the article [[Red_hair]].<br /> Later on, i found something which looks like vandalism to me: [[Aztec_calendar]] (at the bottom). The category information was removed.<br /> Removing information=vandalism! One does not always know, if information might be useful for someone, even if it looks &quot;bad style&quot;, wrong or unrelevant.<br /> Personally, i do not really remove information.<br /> An attempt to add data is not vandalism!<br /> Adding links to commercial sites (unrelated) is called spamming. <br /> <br /> I hope this shows i do not have an interest to bug people unneccessarily. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 08:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== What?! ====<br /> <br /> Hey Yamla, what the hell are you talking about, my friend? I didn't write anything about that crazy bitch called Hilary Duff? Maybe I have a dynamic IP, but I think the only thing dynamic around is '''your''' brain, azzhole! --[[User:200.93.196.236|200.93.196.236]] 14:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :In that case, I suggest you get a username. You'll likely get more warnings about vandalism if someone is using this IP address to vandalise articles. And in the future, please note that personal attacks are grounds for a block. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Merlinus Blocked by Accident ====<br /> I am new to Wikipedia, I tried to make an edit and it said I was &quot;autoblocked&quot; by you... whatever that means. But it called me by a user that I never heard of. Maybe it confused my AOL IPS number or something... please check on it and leave a breif message on ''my'' user discussion page. Thanks, MARC--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Unblocked. This one looks like collateral damage as I did not issue any blocks against that user name. Merlinus, please let me know if you are still unable to edit. If so, I'll need to know the exact IP address you are trying to edit from. Hopefully what I've done already is sufficient, though. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Still blocked: ====<br /> something about Havla? I dont know wwhat my exact Ip adress is? --[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 16:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :If you are still blocked, I ''need'' your IP address to unblock you. Please try a site like [http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ this] to figure out what your IP address is. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, Yamla, but it's me, fellow admin [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] that you've got blocked at this IP now; I'm stuck with AOL for now and know that I'm not supposed to unblock myself, tempting though it is. Thanks,<br /> [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] 20:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Its Merlinus, You have done some wide amount of blocking of AOL Isp numbers this morning and caused a lot of trouble for me! Please fix it ASAP so I don't have get into a big hassle over this. Marc--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)--[[User:Merlinus|merlinus]] 20:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Okay, these users should be unblocked now. Sorry, folks, it was unintended collateral damage on a legit block. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== IP ====<br /> <br /> When I'm blocked, it always shows me what my IP address is being shown as, which is why I usually can get unblocked fairly well. There is a way to get into any connection to any ISP using the &quot;advanced&quot; button on its software to see what IP address is being used, but I think that it varies among ISP's and in any event is to much to go into here. Most users can probably get it from their ISP's tech support, but we both know just what a hassle that can be. [[User:Rlquall|Rlquall]] 21:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Jluv's sorry====<br /> I'am new on this site and I love it I'am sorry for what i did on the Ciara page thuoght it was fever because on the Kayne west page it says Fever I'am sorry. Next time I change somthing i'll tell you thanks.<br /> :No reason to tell me when you are about to edit something, just be careful to read the comments and not to change cited information without providing a better [[WP:CITE|citation]] for your change! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:15, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[:Image:ChloëSevigny.jpg]] ====<br /> <br /> I uploaded it, and placed it in the article. you removed it, citing it not being 'fair use' justification. I really could care less, honestly, but I was a little confused, since it is a press release photo from HBO for a new show shes on. Isn't that fair use? [[User:Cornellrockey|Cornell Rockey]] 03:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I still don't see any evidence that this came from a promotional kit, though it may have been. You are also meant to provide a detailed fair-use justification for each use. It's ''probably'' fair use, but not definitely. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That link I've posted as a source seems pretty press-kit-like to me, and as I said, I really don't care that much. No one else seems to have taken issue with my liberal interpretation of 'press kit' but whatever. Happy wikipedia-ing. [[User:Cornellrockey|Cornell Rockey]] 03:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Confused user ====<br /> You have written:<br /> <br /> Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Laura Prepon. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. --Yamla 14:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I don't know, what you are talking about. I never edited anything in the article of Laura Prepon. I never heard from this woman before. --unsigned comments from [[User:195.3.113.174|195.3.113.174]] ([[User talk:195.3.113.174|talk]])<br /> <br /> :If you did not make those changes then someone else using this IP address did. That is fairly common if you share IP addresses or are on a dynamic IP. As we know a vandal sometimes uses this IP address, I suggest you register a username to prevent your edits being confused with that person's edits. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====3RR violation====<br /> I wanted to let you know that I have reported your five reverts within 24 hours at [[Natalee Holloway]] at the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Yamla|3RR noticeboard]] for consideration of the question of blocking you under [[WP:3RR]]. You may wish to comment there. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 23:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== vandalism removal ====<br /> <br /> it is not required to reply. However, i appreciate your removal of ''explicit graffiti'' from the article [[Red_hair]]. It looks a target for such things.<br /> By the way i found an exact suiting template for ''some'' formulations within the article... have a look. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Ken Hitchcock ====<br /> <br /> Sherwood Park could be considered part of Edmonton even though it is still considered a hamlet and city due to it's size. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 2:45PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I moved your comments to Archive 2. Also, I put famous people from Sherwood Park. That doesn't necessarily mean they have to be born there. Take John V. Hicks for instance. He wasn't born in Prince Albert, but he did live there. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:10PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I should tell you that Archive 2 is dedicated to sports. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:11PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I found what I was looking for. While I was creating the Telus Cup (formerly Air Canada Cup) page I was looking for NHL alumni who have played in the Telus Cup. This is a link to a page which has a lot of NHL alumni that played in the Air Canada Cup. [http://www.midgetaaacanada.com/en/archive/championship/charlottetown_2006/nationals/alumni.htm Click here]. Now when you scroll down to the H section. You will see that Ken Hitchcock is listed as being from Sherwood Park. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 4:00PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> I also found a profile of him that says he is from Edmonton. [http://cbs.sportsline.com/nhl/players/playerpage/20581 Click here]. Could this be conflicting? [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 4:05PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Tom Cruise info removal ====<br /> <br /> Excuse me, but you recently deleted my information that I added to Tom Cruise, because you thought of it as vandalism. However, all things i said ARE true. Tom Cruise IS 5'7&quot;, those jokes i mentioned ARE real, from mind of mencia, and he most certainly isnt a ninja. So please, put these FACTS back on.--unsigned comments from [[User:Soccermike|Soccermike]] ([[User talk:Soccermike|talk]])<br /> :I have no idea who or what mencia is but the jokes are inappropriate at that point in the article. As to the height, you forgot to [[WP:CITE|cite]] this information. Read [[WP:CITE]] to learn how to cite. As to him being a ninja, I agree. But virtually nobody is a ninja and we simply don't need that added to each article. He is also, for example, not a [[zebra]] but again, that fact doesn't need to be added to the article. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== My Archives ====<br /> <br /> I do allow people to talk on my archives. Just don't make a new heading if there is one already there. Just make a new subheading. [[User:fishhead2100|fishhead2100]] May 5, 2006 3:14PM (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Hey, Is this ok? ====<br /> <br /> Title says it all... I just want you to check the Tom Cruise page to make sure what I put was ok.<br /> <br /> :Sorry, no. The fact that some television show makes jokes about his height is simply not relevant. It is not particularly notable. In addition, the [[WP:CITE|citation]] you provided for his height is not reliable. Please remove this information or find a more reliable source. Thanks. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Ase500 ====<br /> <br /> :I need your help. I'd really appreciate it if you could warn [[User:Ase500|Ase500]] for continuing to replace vandalism that I was reverting. I'm being threatened with being blocked myself by someone who has not looked at the history and who doesn't seem to care, while Ase500 is getting away with vandalism and with violating 3RR.<br /> This was his edit to [[Wal-Mart]], which started this:<br /> ''While it is easy to see how critics may come to this conclution, Wal-Mart did have plans to close this store prior to the union vote. Infact the union vote was a last ditch effort by associates to keep the store open.''<br /> :It violates NPOV, it's misspelled, and given that he has violated 3RR action should be taken. 3RR does not mean to not revert vandalism, which I did. Now all his talk page has is a warning for violating 3RR and a second for removing the tag. As it stands, they've made it look like I'm equally wrong as him, while according the the 3RR rule I've done nothing wrong. [[User:Kamikaze Highlander|Kamikaze Highlander]] 08:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I'd really like your opinion in the situation. None of the other moderators seem to care that his edit violated npov and deserved to be removed, that he was pov-pushing or that, had I reported his 3RR he might have been blocked. Since the issue has been resolved, I'd like it if someone could remove my section of the 3RR page and the warnings from my talk page, since they give the impression that I did something wrong, while his talk page only suggests that he commited a minor infraction. Pov-pushing and adding misspelled opinions without sources, and getting into an edit war to keep that kind of statement should be considered far worse than trying to remove them. [[User:Kamikaze Highlander|Kamikaze Highlander]] 17:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Vandalism warnings====<br /> Hello. I've come via a posting on [[WP:VPP#vandalism_vs._edit_mistake|the village pump]], and on reviewing the edits, I have to agree that the edit you gave a vandalism warning for does not look like vandalism to me. Uncited, proably incorrect, but no indication from contribution history that it was not made [[WP:AGF| in good faith]]. So, while it was probably a mistake, but [[WP:VAND#What_vandalism_is_not|mistakes aren't vandalism]]. I would point out that your reply calling the edit &quot;complete crap&quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAkidd_dublin&amp;diff=50905057&amp;oldid=50900569] was not very [[WP:CIVIL|civil]]. As good faith editors can rightly get demoralised by being labeled vandals, I would suggest that the best thing for you to do would be to retract the warning, and please be careful in future not to [[WP:BITE|bite good faith mistakes]]. Regards, [[User:MartinRe|MartinRe]] 13:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Hello. I appreciate your comment on Akidd dublin's talk page, that is over and above what I'd expect. I'm sure you're well meaning, and I know I'm just as fustrated with vandalism as I am, and I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. I think your apology was great, everyone makes mistakes (admins and editors alike). All, the best, and hope you're well. [[User:MartinRe|MartinRe]] 22:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sometimes i add politics, and it is O.K. to demand the removal of it. I do not edit here with promotion intention. However sometimes i run in danger of ''forest fires'', because i do bite articles/sections which display/promote, other, well politics. I do not understand everything myself. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I had noticed that you had posted a vandalism warning on a users talk page after editing the [[House (TV Series)|House]] and [[Robert Sean Leonard]] article. The Robert Sean Leonard article was brought to my attention via my watchlist. I do consider what the user was doing to the Robert Sean Leonard article vandalism. However, what is the difference between vandalism and experimenting? -[[User:Diabolos|Diabolos]]<br /> <br /> ====Link Removed====<br /> &quot;The links you added to the page Spore (game) have been removed. Please do not add commercial links—or links to your own private websites—to Wikipedia.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;The link I added was neither commercial or personal, but a free web and downloadable game bearing a fair bit of resemblance to what has been shown of the first stage of the game, Spore. I thought might be of as much interest to others interested in Spore, as it was to me.<br /> <br /> ====3LW====<br /> Yamal On the 3LW myspace the have a song called &quot;Do You Ever&quot; from there new album that could also be a possible single. Just if u wanted to add it. thank for reading this have a good day.<br /> JLUV<br /> <br /> ==== Red hair (your comment add to my talk) ====<br /> <br /> I believe many people relate queer to gai, but it is not very related (if at all). My interpretation was &quot;looks ginger&quot;, in a meaning of way of &quot;unserious and queer&quot;. People producing edits could use a dictionary. &lt;font size=1&gt;i have removed agressive info.&lt;/font&gt; [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> * This comment by Adkidd dublin is not English. The interpretation of &quot;looks ginger&quot; as &quot;unserious and queer&quot; indicates a fundamental lack of understanding of the English language. It's not just wrong, it's ludicrously wrong, like saying &quot;my dog has square wheels&quot;. Likewise, &quot;striptease&quot; is not &quot;completely gai&quot;, it is utterly NOT &quot;gai&quot; (or &quot;gay&quot;). The suggestion to &quot;use a dictionary&quot; is laughable coming from someone who has demonstrated no understanding of English usage or idiom at all. I don't know how to proceed with this; see his comments on my talk page as well. I would appreciate a word or two of advice. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It is called &quot;word clearing&quot;. It is not laughable. ''This dog has square wheels and looks like a spider'': [[Old Mother Hubbard]]. Gai means sexually flavoured activity for entertainment purpose. I do not need to use this words at all. If i see it, it is annoying. <br /> <br /> :::What basis do you have for asserting that this is what Gai means? I can find no reference in several dictionaries and google does not seem to back you up. As to the rest of that paragraph, could you please rewrite it? It makes no sense to me. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I appreciate your comments, however ''I'' dont know where are you coming from; people can misunderstand this as harassment (using dictionary=laughable), and you do not really know if it is asked for. If it belongs here. <br /> :::''I don't know how to proceed with this; see his comments on my talk page as well. I would appreciate a word or two of advice.'' - don't bother to delete unwanted info. i make ..., because there are Ghits for ''baking oven''.<br /> *Please look. I do not want to make a point, or to disrupt. Probably it is better to stop now. I do not edit articles, where this word (ga-i) occurs. I just thought it is not connected to hair color (which i like personally). I use electronic dictionaries myself. The rhyme about that dog is not addressing anyone. It is not offensive. Can we stop it. I have searched the web for &quot;baking oven&quot;. Probably Fnarf999 has done this too- before doing Afd for [[baking_oven]]. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 19:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== admin ====<br /> <br /> Just a request that you add yourself to the [[:category:Wikipedia administrators]] (i don't know if it's required?) or otherwise clarify the &quot;nominated&quot; message on your userpage. And thanks for the help reverting the icebergradio linkspammer :) -[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] 19:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Not ====<br /> <br /> I'm Not Trying to be Funny. I really do not know what the copying status is. And when you upload it it says This image might be copyrighted. And that's what I chose. [[User:Tcatron565|Tcatron565]] 5:30 08, May 2006 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Re: Toronto98 ====<br /> <br /> Hey, I'm at my wit's end over this [[User:Toronto98|Toronto98]] person. They keep inserting really ugly porn starlet pics into formerly tasteful articles like [[nudity]], [[breast]], and [[kiss]]. The images keep getting deleted for lack of copyright info, but then they add more. User [[User:Lalalulu|Lalalulu]] is doing the same, might be the same person for all I know. This is ruining the credibility of these articles as encyclopedic.<br /> <br /> Is there some process at Wikipedia for when someone keeps uploading inappropriate and copyrighted images? Would that be handled by Wikimedia? Thanks, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====My warning====<br /> <br /> I got three warnings for the same editing trip, im done, and I realize it is wrong now.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Image:Octagon-warning.png|left|30px]] You have been temporarily [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so after the block expires.&lt;!-- {{blocked}} --&gt;<br /> :Very funny, [[User talk:82.198.250.5|82.198.250.5]], but that's a lie. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Why not delete it? It's not legitimate, and its only purpose is to prejudice people against you when they see your talk page. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 19:25, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I prefer to be conservative in what I leave on my talk page. Besides, I was kind of entertained by this one. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Sheesh. ====<br /> <br /> Get a load of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMichael_Savage_%28commentator%29&amp;diff=52485682&amp;oldid=52483363 this].<br /> <br /> I was just trying to make a point about consistency in descriptive standards, and I got a paranoid screed. My question is, what IS considered best usage on Wikipedia? I can't find mention of this issue in the MOS. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 20:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I strongly suspect (though I could be wrong) the problem here is that &quot;Jew&quot; is both a religion and a race, or at least is often considered as one or the other. It's quite reasonable to describe me as a &quot;British-Canadian&quot; (or would if I actually got off my behind and applied for Canadian citizenship). I'm quite comfortable at describing first-generation immigrants that way (and am myself a first-generation immigrant). It is less clear in the case of Jewish people, however. While it may well be relevant to discuss their religion, it is more difficult when using the term in a racial (not racist) manner. Certainly, it'd be reasonable to describe a person as 'Israeli-American'. I'm much less comfortable describing second- (and more-) generation people this way. Someone who's great grandparents came from Germany can't really be described as 'German-American' in my opinion. In this case, though, I just let it stand though I would never add something like that myself. Okay, so what about this particular case? Really, the best answer is whether Mr. Savage describes himself as Jewish-American. If he doesn't, we ''probably'' shouldn't use the term. It's debateable, however, as it is definitely significant that Mr. Savage identifies himself as Jewish. It may have something to do with liberals, democrats, and republicans. Personally, I'm just happy to live in Canada. :) --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Lucky. A friend of mine who's a trucker recently described what it was like hauling some freight to Canada. On his way into Canada, the Canadian border guards were friendly. ''On his way back into the U.S.'', though, he was bullied and harassed by border guards with way too little training and way too much power. I'd envy you, but then I remember that through the magic of XM radio, you folks up in the frozen north have to put up with our talk radio dreck, too.<br /> <br /> ::Eh. I guess you're right, though. If Weiner is so determined to hide his Jewish ancestry from his fine new friends in the blame-Jews crowd, then I'll let it go. I have to admit that I rarely do more than fix vandalism in articles devoted to him and other [[Ann Coulter|shrill]] purveyors of hatred. I don't trust myself to be entirely neutral when discussing such people. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 23:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====Naan Kadavul====<br /> <br /> I've asked this user to agree not to blank his talk page. If he agrees do you wish to unblock him? [[User:ForestH2|ForestH2]]<br /> :I wasn't the one who blocked him. He was blocked for forging signatures on an RfA. Please see my follow-up comments on his [[User talk:Naan Kadavul|talk page]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That's horrible. How long is he blocked? I guess he wanted supports....That's really bad. [[User:ForestH2|ForestH2]]<br /> <br /> :::He's blocked indefinitely. Really, this should probably go to a request for arbitration or something. :) I'm unconvinced that an indefinite block was warranted but I'm probably far too liberal on that topic. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 22:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Re: [[User:Naan Kadavul]] ====<br /> <br /> I wonder if the guy can be educated? Seems kinda unlikely to me, but perhaps I'm in a harsh mood. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]][[User talk:Jpgordon|&amp;#8711;&amp;#8710;&amp;#8711;&amp;#8710;]] 00:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====music videos====<br /> *why is it forbidden to add music video links ,many people have never seen some music vidoes ,and wikipedia is a encyclopedia for everything and for music videos ,too i think ,<br /> <br /> then you have to delete all links cause they ´re all spam<br /> [[Benutzer:Pucki]] 11.May.2006 (CEST)Central Europe<br /> <br /> :They are indeed spam. The links I have given you above will help you understand ''why'' they are spam and I strongly suggest you read them. Particularly, [[WP:NOT]], [[WP:EL]], and [[Wikipedia:Spam]]. Wikipedia is not a link farm. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====this discussion is not related to wikipedia====<br /> <br /> i am considering to remove the complete talkin which fnarf999 is involved.<br /> this is getting nowhere. <br /> i do not have to keep unwanted personal writing.<br /> [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)~<br /> I wuold like to remove his writing. He proofable violates several policies at other places. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 13:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, you '''do''' have to keep fnarf999's comments. You cannot simply remove his comments. What you may do is archive this entire page (I can help you do this if you wish). This would mean moving '''all''' comments from this page to an archive page, clearing this page, and putting a link from this page back to the archive page. '''Do not''' simply remove fnarf999's comments. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:59, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====fnarf999 contribution to akidd_dublin taklk page====<br /> <br /> I do not want him to put his personal opinion (which does not really anymore talk about an article) to my userpage.<br /> Do i have to keep unrelated talk?<br /> I am giong to archieve it then. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I have already answered this question. You '''must''' keep his comments on your discussion page, or move '''all''' comments to an archive page. This comments to you are relevant to your significant problems with the English language. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== what now ====<br /> <br /> Because i found it uncanny to have a geographic location connected to an user name, i am going to abandon it now. I find the user talk embarassing, and not-well-educated teenie-like. I had it in mind forehand, but now i am going to realize it. I do not have to suggest articles for Afd. Neither to scroll people's contribution. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 15:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. What do you mean when you say &quot;not-well-educated teenie-like&quot;? And do you mean &quot;before&quot; when you say &quot;forehand&quot;? I think you are saying that you are going to abandon this user and start a new user. That's fine, that is your right. However, you may be happier editing Wikipedia in your native language as I fear that the same problems are going to show up in the new user account. Another alternative if you wish is that we could take this matter to arbitration. This would allow you to state your case and allow a group of neutral people to give their opinions. I can explain this in more detail if you would like. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:23, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::not-well-educated teenie-like -&gt; When i see weak english [[superstition]], i am trying to make it better, and not to produce long, long writing. I have now started a new user.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ::::I'm sorry, that still does not make sense. --Yamla 15:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I did not knew red-head people are so picky. I thought the article in disrepair ''before'' i arrived. I am not willing to take charge on me. My current english is not that bad. If you believe arbitration makes sense, i do not know how-to, where, why-because-of. Someone clearly misbehaved. If he is going to edit [[matsuri]] etc., it may figure an incident (because no understanding of the article itself). When i write that i like red-head people, does it help? [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 15:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I do not have red hair, this is not the source of our disagreement. Our disagreement seems to be that you think your English skills are good, I think your English skills aren't good. You can read about the RfA (arbitration) at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. The goal of this would be to get other, neutral people involved to comment on whether I am being unfair to you, or whether your English skills really aren't very good. That is, whether I should just stop bothering you, or whether you should stop making edits (or make different kinds of edits). I can give you more information if you wish. --Yamla 15:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==== P!nk ====<br /> <br /> Yamla ...the chart is U.S. Hot Dance Club Play , no U.S. Hot Dance Airplay...and then is 21 NO 13!!!! you don't see right and can blocked me...oh god! is crazy! IS 21!!!!!!!!!!!!! --unsigned comments from [[User:Hookerj|Hookerj]] ([[User talk:Hookerj|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Please don't worry. We have a dispute on content. I will not block you while we are discussing this. Please note, though, that the chart shows &quot;U.S. Hot Dance&quot;, '''not''' U.S. Hot Dance Club Play. Should this heading be corrected, perhaps? --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:26, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Babelfish/Arbitration etc. ====<br /> <br /> Are you saying that you are using software like Babelfish to translate from your native language to English? This would certainly explain the serious grammatical mistakes and difficulty in understanding what you write. If so, please stop. Babelfish is not particularly good at translating. If you need to rely on this or similar software, please refrain from editing the English version of Wikipedia. If instead you are writing everything yourself (without the use of translation software), I still claim that your skills in English aren't good enough. But this is probably opinion that could be clarified by arbitration. --Yamla 15:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC) <br /> <br /> :No. I am not doing this. I am not using ... to edit wikipedia. I am using it for various other languages. &quot;Please know it forehand&quot;¹ is a result i thought understandable within the context of genuine, native english. It is not enlish, however. The engines produce a lot of interesting formulations. It has nothing to do with my work on english language. I have read numerous biographies and programming manuals in english. I can understand television etc. I do not see it full of mistakes as of 2006. ¹I do not use it within articles. It has various meanings. <br /> <br /> :I dont want people to use any tiny link for a follow up of this. People please keep the writing three lines. I am not willing to debug my personal past here on wikipedia. Akidd_dublin has been abandoned. I had it in mind for weeks because weak ID. Now i had a reason. I never even displayed what Fnarf999 is working on. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== I want to get rid of fnarf999 ====<br /> <br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fnarf999#User_subpage<br /> He showed good will to be friendly.&lt;br&gt;<br /> However he should not police me. He is new here. I do not know how to put this to arbitration.&lt;br&gt;<br /> His user talk (talking about me) has nothing to do with wikipedia. I believe it is used for harassing links to an unrelated user account.&lt;br&gt;<br /> He is stating your ID (Yamla) within a &quot;Cabal&quot; case.&lt;br&gt;<br /> I do not want him building a gateway to my new page.&lt;br&gt;<br /> The purpose was to get rid of him, even if his speech has improved lately.&lt;br&gt;<br /> I do not exclude he plays a distraction game.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Probably he does more damage than good. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006)]] 19:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I believe you are saying that you want arbitration. I do not believe I am the right person to arbitrate here. You can bring the matter to arbitration yourself by reading [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration]]. However, I will start the arbitration proceedings tomorrow (too busy with work today), unless you tell me otherwise. I will list the goal of arbitration to be:<br /> :* To determine whether other people also feel your English skills are lacking<br /> :* If so, what to do about this situation as it relates to the Wikipedia<br /> :* If not, how we can help you get a clean start here<br /> :The purpose of arbitration is to resolve conflicts. The purpose is '''not''' to attack you (or to attack me or Fnarf999). As I said, I'll start this tomorrow unless you want me to stay out of it (or unless you start it sooner). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I have put this to village pump/miscellaneuos. I believe it is a bad example - what wikipedia is not. my blog is not full of mistakes. my blog is not full of grammar mistakes. it gets deleted after 7 days, and that's good.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''OTHER PEOPLE CAN SEE THIS''' and avoid to discuss that way. Nothing for ungood. This discussion does not belong here. I do not want links to my new account. Fnarf999 and others should try a personal blog. I do not get personal at my blog. anyone can read it. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WIKIPEDIA. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006)]] 19:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Another question! ====<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you again, but something odd just happened. An editor with whom I'd had a mildly pointed discussion attempted to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Puckmv&amp;curid=5036809&amp;diff=52905581&amp;oldid=52006110 edit] my reply on his talk page to reverse the intended meaning of my words, essentially attempting to paint me as a self-admitted bigot. I've reverted his edit to his talk page, but now that I think of it, do I even have the right to do that? Is he allowed to put false words in my mouth on his talk page, or could that be considered a form of personal attack (or even vandalism)? If he continues to replace my statements with fabrications, what are my options? Can I remove my comments entirely from his talk page, or would that be vandalism?<br /> <br /> This has got me creeped out a bit. The only reason I noticed it was because for some reason his talk page was still on my watchlist. For all I know, others could be doing this whose talk pages I no longer watch. What am I supposed to do about this sort of character assassination? [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:38, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> P.S. Please reply on this talk page only, if he's watching my page I don't want him tipped off, or to start harassing you, too! [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 00:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If he's really watching, he may be monitoring everything that you post. So he may see this anyway. But nobody has the right to change what you have written as signed comments on a discussion page (for an article or for a user). Although I rarely do so, it is an instantly blockable offence. It wouldn't take many instances of this for me to strongly consider a permanent block (though this would never happen for an anonymous IP). I'll often just issue a stern warning the first time I see it, though. The vandals are often simply children who don't know how to behave. As to whether you have the right to revert changes made to your words, you ''most certainly'' do. It's worth following up with a statement along the lines of: &quot;Changing other people's signed comments is considered [[WP:Vandalism|vandalism]] and many admins will block on sight. Please do not do this again. It is dishonest and easy to track down.&quot; Note that [[WP:OWN]] tends to imply that people can change what you right but the difference here is someone is essentially trying to fraudulently claim '''you''' have written something other than what you did. Stay away from legal threats, though; those are also an instantly banable offence. As to the more general problem, that your comments could have been changed on numerous other pages, this is certainly true. Most of the time (in my experience), the changes aren't particularly well done. And there's always the edit history. Still, it's kind of a pain that this can happen. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Kasreyn, please feel free to remove this entire section (your comments and my comments) if this makes you more comfortable. Alternatively, I can archive this talk page again if you prefer. I'm just as happy leaving the comments here, but hey. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Hey, thanks! I didn't expect such speedy and decisive action. Hmm, I don't oppose removing this section if you want to, but I don't really think it's important any more - being blocked, he can only edit his own talk page, right? Or is he only blocked from main space? Let's just leave this here, in any case. I'll also give WP:OWN a reread and try to learn more. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 03:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I believe he can only edit his page. I don't actually know for certain, though. He may be able to edit your talk page as well, for example, but I don't believe that's the case. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 04:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Look out ====<br /> <br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APuckmv&amp;diff=53086371&amp;oldid=52946567 Puckmv]'s going to make Wikipedia &quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/ Fair and balanced]&quot; ¬_¬ Here we go again. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 05:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm surprised you waste your breath. Politician818 seems confused as to why I haven't replied to his endless attempts at conversation on my talk page. His attitude, and puck's, are enough to know they aren't worth my time. By replying, all you're doing is becoming the target of more attacks. You've disagreed with them, therefore you're now a liberal conspirator like me; nothing you say will be believed. It's best to not even waste the time. Cheers, [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 14:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== {{user|209.221.73.5}} ====<br /> <br /> Looks like this IP you blocked for a week before is back and vandalizing pages again: <br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338333]<br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iran&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338165]<br /> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genital_bisection&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=53338001]. Feel free to deal with him. Thanks, --[[User:Kashk|''' - K a s h ''']]&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Kashk|Talk]] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kashk email]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Ciara====<br /> Why was the information I included to Ciara's article REMOVED? This is unfair. It is correct. Every time I add information to an article, I'm always putting wrong information. --unsigned comments from [[User:Charmed36|Charmed36]] ([[User talk:Charmed36|talk]])<br /> :As I pointed out to you, you must [[WP:CITE|cite]] your additions. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====[[Punk Rocker]]====<br /> Why did you say I added nonsense to the [[Emma Watson]] page on 5th May, when I thought that the information I added was perfectly valid. {{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 16:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :As I noted in the edit comment, you are claiming that the provided [http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue238/news.html citation] notes her favourite fashion designers. It does not. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I GOT MY INFORMATION FROM A VALID SOURCE! IT WAS AN INTERVIEW WITH EMMA IN A MAGAZINE. SHE MENTIONED THAT SHE LIKES HIP HOP MUSIC. {{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 20:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> By the way, why didn't you give me a 3rd level warning.{{[[User:Punk Rocker|Punk Rocker]] 20:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :Well, you can read [[WP:CITE]] to learn how to include a citation for this information. I did not give you a test3 because you had already received four prior warnings, some from me and some from [[User:RadioKirk]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ====[[Reply to message you left me]]====<br /> Hi Yamla, I got your message about the Hilary Duff edit. I saw the page had been vandalised and so I went to the wikipedia page to learn how to revert pages to their pre-vandalised state. I followed the instructions and, as far as I can tell, I reverted the page. I'm not sure what happened to lead to your accusation of vandalism. That was not my intent. I would appreciate it if you would rescind my warning. Thanks. --unsigned comments from [[User:162.83.244.94|162.83.244.94]] ([[User talk:162.83.244.94|talk]])<br /> <br /> :This appears to be the case. I have removed the warning I left on your page. I suspected the vandal had simply switched to another IP address and was continuing vandalising. I see that this was not the case and that you were trying to revert the vandalism. I'm sorry for leaping to conclusions. Thanks for your efforts! --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====[[slapshot10]]====<br /> I am very curious... why do you consider Planet Students a spam message when it: (1) is completely free for students, (2) was built by students, (3) is intended and does save students thousands of dollars? Why for example is [http://my-u.ca] on UofC page allowed? Did I post our link poorly? Please explain. [[User:Slapshot10|Slapshot10]] 20:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please read [[WP:EL]] and [[WP:SPAM]]. I cannot comment on [http://my-u.ca] as I did not see that link being added. It is entirely possible that that link should be removed as well. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[Vandal]] ====<br /> <br /> I believe this user ([[User talk:205.127.250.70]]) is a vandal. He/She has posted one comment, yet it's content is a clear attempt at vandalism. Furthermore, in his/her &quot;talk&quot;, he/she said, &quot;YOU ARE A FATTY&quot; when I stated he/she was a vandal. [[User:MichaelZ526|MichaelZ526]] 21:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[JasonBourne2007]] ====<br /> <br /> EWS23 and I have had an ongoing discussion regarding the House, MD wiki. Please make note of that before you revert my changes, which we agreed are acceptable for the wiki article. Please feel free to join our discussion on the House, MD article under article discussion. Thank you!<br /> :Sorry, Jason. I spend most of my time here removing vandalism and link spam and sometimes mistake appropriate edits. Won't happen again (well, not to you hopefully). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 20:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks Yamla. It's not a problem at all! If you ever need a MD medical professionals opinion on a wiki article, feel free to message me! [[User:JasonBourne2007|JasonBourne2007]] 20:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== {{user|70.251.128.3}} ====<br /> <br /> We received a complaint via [[m:OTRS|OTRS]] (Ticket number 2006051210001527) that you blocked a user at this IP. It is, in all likelihood, a dynamic IP address, and the user is no longer blocked. However, after reviewing the user contributions and your block log, it seems that the IP address made a number of contributions prior to May 11, and then you warned, warned again, and then blocked for copyright violation (1 month!!!!!) without providing the user an opportunity to respond to your warnings. <br /> <br /> I have unblocked the IP address. Please be a bit more careful. [[User:Bastique|'''B'''astique]]&lt;span class=&quot;Unicode&quot; style=&quot;color:#FF72E3;&quot;&gt;&amp;#09660;&lt;/span&gt;'''&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Bastique|parler]]&lt;/sup&gt;''' &lt;sub&gt;'''[[Special:Contributions/Bastique|voir]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; 18:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm sorry, I thought we took copyright violation seriously. The user had an opportunity to respond to my claims of vandalism (or blanking) (second set of vandalism occurred after the first warning, I think you are getting confused by the time zones), but was blocked due to blatant copyright infringement, not due to vandalism. Given that the user appeared to be a blatant vandal also committing blatant copyright infringement, the block seemed reasonable at the time. Additionally, my understanding is that sbcglobal (the user's ISP) gives out IP addresses on very long leases (that is, the IP was semi-static and unlikely to change in motnhs). I will enforce shorter blocks in the future, however, even for users like this one with no productive contributions. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Nude celebrities ====<br /> Thanks for the comments, though I fully expect my changes to be reverted any second now. [[User:Tregoweth|tregoweth]] 22:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Zennie====<br /> Greetings. There's nothing wrong with adding an external link to one's site if -- and only if -- that link adds value to the content. I think there's also a kind of knee-jerk desire to -- one the part of some &quot;policers&quot; -- harm those who have websites of their own. Remember, blogs contribute to the communication of information on various aspects of society. Please do not threaten to have one banned for adding content -- even if it benefits that person's blog. It goes against the nature of the Internet and in the sprit of that perspective such action will be met with an equal reaction, thus banning the policer. It's a little much, your reaction. People commonly go from one site to the other; it's not appropriate or sound to get upset about this common online dynamic. --unsigned comments from [[User:Zennie|Zennie]] ([[User talk:Zennie|talk]])<br /> :Sorry, the sites you are adding are inappropriate for Wikipedia. This has already been pointed out to you. I suggest you reread [[WP:EL]] and [[WP:SPAM]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yamia, your interpretation of the Wikiepedia rules is wrong and off-base. Not including a &quot;commericial&quot; website means you would have to elminate 90 percent of the links installed in this system, including very relevant links to -- for example -- a MySpace page. That's a commercial link. I suggest some training in Internet history and function, because you're not understanding of how this works and therefore present a danger to others - Zennie<br /> <br /> :A great many of the links on Wikipedia are irrelevant. However, commercial websites are appropriate in many circumstances. A link to Microsoft's website is entirely appropriate on [[Microsoft]], for example. Similarly, a link to [[Wil Wheaton]]'s MySpace page (if he has one) is appropriate on his page. However, these are special cases. Please read [[WP:EL]] to understand what is and is not appropriate. The fact that links are appropriate on the Internet at large does not imply that they are appropriate on the Wikipedia. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Again, I ask that you stop this rather pavolvian habit. It's damanging the free flow of information online. Moreover, you do this not in the sprit of Wikipedia's design, but in the need to satistfy only your view of the World. That's not right or good. --unsigned comments from [[User:Zennie|Zennie]]<br /> <br /> :::Please read [[WP:NOT]]. Wikipedia is '''not''' a link repository. Also, please note that new comments go to the bottom of my discussion page. Thanks. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In [[User talk:Mtz206#Zennie|response]]: Unless Zennie continues to post inappropriate links after your additional warnings and subsequent discussion, I would consider the matter closed. Up to you on the RfC, but it doesn't seem like a major conflict other than just dueling opinions on Talk space. If it ends up to be an edit-war, then that's a horse of another color. Nevertheless, I'll post another reminder of the policy on Zennie's talk page. (on the GU FDL issue, I have no opinion) --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] 18:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I haven't intervened regarding the GFDL issue, so there's not much I can offer the RfC. --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] ([[User talk:Mtz206|talk]]) 21:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Thanks====<br /> Thanks for this while I was away: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mtz206&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=54078427]. --[[User:Mtz206|mtz206]] 20:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Apple Intel transition ====<br /> <br /> um, why did you revert the changes? in article [[Apple Intel transition]]? Windows and Windowsing systems and Microsoft Windows are three diffrent things.--[[User:Mayz|Mayz]] 01:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I reverted your changes because, with the possible exception of the first case, it was obvious from the context what was being referred to. Note, for example, that you have a windowing system, not a Windowsing system. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::well, i actually dont see any harm in specifying what it is being talked about, even if you think that the context is clear! by the way , didnt change Windows XP to Microsoft Windows XP because i thought that the name and the context was self explaining! i ask you to revert your revert or at least revert selectively if you please (and if you see fit). sorry for the bad english but its not my mother tongue, and by the way, just for the fun of it, try reading the sentences with the windows as if they reffered to windows in houses and cars :) --[[User:Mayz|Mayz]] 02:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Reply to the message you sent me ====<br /> <br /> Ummm...every timne I try to do something, it's always deleted. Lot of other artist have song lists. How come P!nk can't?<br /> <br /> :At the time you added the song list and the time you left this message, that page did not exist. That's why it was removed. So long as you properly [[WP:CITE|cite]] the song list and format it suitably for Wikipedia, the song list would be an appropriate addition. At the moment, of course, that page needs considerable work. But once again, the reason I reverted your addition was that the page simply didn't exist at the time. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Okay. Well, I kind finished it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P%21nk_Songs- Hill03<br /> <br /> ==== Good Job Genius ====<br /> <br /> Another scathing remark from a moron who doesn't understand what a dynamic ip is. Next time keep your comments to users and don't go off the deep end with your egotistical cynicism. -Random IP ([[User:71.125.149.140|71.125.149.140]], [[User talk:71.125.149.140|talk]])<br /> <br /> ==== Peas picture deleted quickly ====<br /> <br /> Why was the BEP photo deleted so quickly? The &quot;warning&quot; template you added noted it would be deleted in a week. It seems to have been deleted immediately, though. Also, MANY other artists' pages include promotional photos (See [[Eminem]] for instance, among other groups and acts) so why wasn't the uploader simply allowed to include the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Promophoto}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template to answer the Copyvio challenge you made against it? Not a huge issue here. It wasn't me who used the picture. I'm just wondering. [[User:Nhprman|Nhprman]] 22:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Promophoto}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; tag was incorrect. The copyright violation was blatant, the uploader even claimed that the picture was scanned in from a magazine. Thus, I believed it qualified under [[WP:Copyvio]] for speedy deletion. Do you think I was incorrect? Do you think even though the copyvio was blatant, we should have left it in place for seven days? (That's a serious question, I could be wrong that copyvios should be dealt with immediately if they are blatant). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::You are probably right. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't catch the user's earlier comments and it appeared as if it was a staged promotional photo. [[User:Nhprman|Nhprman]] 02:55, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== PROD ====<br /> <br /> Hi, just to let you know I [[WP:PROD|prodded]] [[The Terror Mansion]] article by [[User:70%]] because it was written by a vandal user. (Incidentally it is written in an unencyclopedic style.) Cheers, --[[User:unforgettableid|unforgettableid]] | [[User_talk:unforgettableid|talk to me]] 16:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Monica Bellucci information ====<br /> <br /> You've asked me to site my sources for the information that I've posted on the Monica Bellucci Wiki listing... well, my reference to her Agnosticism comes from a quote available on one of the pages that I added as a link. And I added the link expressly for the purpose of varification of that quote. By removing the link, you removed my verifycation. The two sites that I added are not commercial nor are they my personal sites. Whereas the iMDB is a commercial site, charging for some of their services and embedding a broad range of commerical advertisements in their pages.<br /> <br /> This Agnosticism quote has also been posted on an iMDB discussion forum. It shouldn't be too hard to find. The thread is called ''Monica and Religion'' and the original poster of the quote posted under the username '''Ilana04'''. <br /> <br /> Also, as I said, the quote is repeated on a fansite for Ms Bellucci at [http://www.monica-bellucci.net/]. This is the best I can do to verify this quote, as it most likely appeared in a magazine published outside the US, and I don't know the publication or the date.<br /> <br /> As to verifying my reference to her posing nude in protest of the Italian laws against in-vitro vetilization, that information comes from several articles in magazines to which Ms Bellucci has given interviews, including the original magazine she posed for- the Italian edition of Vanity Fair in June of 2004.<br /> <br /> I don't know if this can be varified on line, or via the internet, but the issue of the magazine did exist in print at that time.<br /> <br /> This was also referenced in an interview that Monica gave to Film magazine in tendem with the release of her film, The Brothers Grimm.<br /> <br /> There was also a reference to this on a website called contactmusic.com in their news section, dated for June 8, 2004.<br /> <br /> I have all of this information right here at my fingertips, in printed form, but I do not have any internet links as I don't have my printer set to display headers and footers and it has been some time since I printed the articles.<br /> <br /> As to her appearng nude in films, I make those references because I have seen the films. The nude calendars a referenced on her Biography page in the trivia section on iMDB. There is also a site that has scanned images of each page of the calendars- [http://bellucci.utopiax.org/index.html Monica Bellucci Utopiax]<br /> <br /> I did not post any varifycation of my information within the aritcle itself because I felt it would look too cluttered and have an adversarial feel about it, as if I were trying to rebuff anyone who read the article and say &quot;here's the proof... so there !!&quot;<br /> <br /> I realize you will, most likely, remove the information that I have added because I cannot give you varifycation of that information that you can easily verify on your computer. But I have not posted anything untrue about Ms Bellucci. I can prove all of it, but only via printed hard copies of internet articles that have most likely been removed from the net, or from magazines that I have in print-form.<br /> <br /> --[[User:NilaLaniera|NilaLaniera]] 20:56, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the followup. IMDB is not a particularly reliable source of information and most certainly, fansites such as the one you list above are insufficient for [[WP:CITE]]. I'm sure the vast majority of your information is correct, nevertheless. If you could please readd the information from reliable and [[WP:Verifiability|verifiable]] sources, [[WP:CITE|cited]] appropriately, I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 21:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Full responses to this on [[User talk:NilaLaniera]]. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Macbook Pro &quot;Vandalism&quot; ====<br /> <br /> I changed the [[Macbook Pro]] article as the specifications of it has changed. It is no longer 1.83 / 2.0 / 2.16<br /> <br /> The 1.83 model has been discontinued AS WRITTEN IN THE MACBOOK ARTICLE.<br /> <br /> You can double check these changes by checking here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=925997E8&amp;nclm=MacBookPro<br /> <br /> Thankyou. --unsigned comments from [[User:220.233.76.24|220.233.76.24]] ([[User talk:220.233.76.24|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Yes, but the article is describing the MacBook Pro in general, not only the ''current'' edition of it. For that reason, the information that it was available with a 1.83 Ghz CPU needs to remain. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 23:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Cheerleading====<br /> Why were 66.82.9.87's edits reverted? It seems to me that a slightly more thorough discussion of cheerleaders' stereotypical status as &quot;sex symbols&quot; would be more NPOV than the blunt statement &quot;Cheerleaders are often viewed as sex symbols.&quot; 66.82.9.87's edits might not have been the best writing in the world, but it is NOT &quot;nonsense.&quot; [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 19:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Inherently point-of-view. The backbone of the sports team? &quot;...supercedes the sexual overtones&quot;? It may be true, but I have seen no evidence that this is how they are generally perceived, and some of my friends are cheerleaders. That change could ''certainly'' stay if [[WP:CITE|cited]] appropriately but it just didn't ring true. I've never heard ''anyone'' describe cheerleaders as the backbone of the sports team, for example. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I concede that the &quot;backbone&quot; line is pretty useless. I'm even willing to concede that &quot;supercedes the sexual overtones&quot; isn't properly cited--I don't know the precise citing rules (although I do appreciate the link in your message above). However, giving 66.82.9.87 a warning for '''vandalism'''? That seems extreme, especially after I took the time to read the [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] page. Bad edits don't automatically equal vandalism, do they? I'm sure that 66.82.9.87 was editing in good faith. [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 13:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, it looked just like petty vandalism. If you prefer, though, I'll clear the warning from that page. Let me know. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::That would be great. I think that these edits (on Cheerleading, anyway) are more of an [[Wikipedia:NPOV dispute|NPOV violation]] than actual vandalism. I guess my main complaint is that the writing was deemed &quot;nonsense&quot;. If the warning had been something more like &quot;This is an NPOV problem&quot; or &quot;Your work needs to be cited&quot;, then I wouldn't have a bit of a problem with it. Anyway, thanks. [[User:Eric Qel-Droma|Eric Qel-Droma]] 13:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Done. Although that IP address has a history of vandalism, that particular problem was a NPOV violation, as you point out. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 13:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Just Letting You Know====<br /> I saw on the 3LW site that the CD is goming out on August, 15th so I'am just letting you know I might change it. please dont get mad thank you for reading this.(UTC)<br /> <br /> [[Category:Canadian Wikipedia administrators|{{subst:Yamla}}]]<br /> [[Category:Wikipedians in Edmonton|{{subst:Yamla}}]]<br /> <br /> ==== I'm so confused ====<br /> How did I vandalize pages? What did I do to Liv Tyler's article. WHAT? [[User:Shamir1|Shamir1]] 03:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :In what way is Liv Tyler Native American? She may be as much as one eighth (though possibly considerably less) Native American but that doesn't make ''her'' Native American. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Vandalism ====<br /> <br /> You said: In what way is Liv Tyler Native American? She may be as much as one eighth (though possibly considerably less) Native American but that doesn't make her Native American<br /> <br /> Umm, I would NOT call that vandalizing pages, first of all. Secondly, take a look at the other actors in [[Category:Native American actors]]. Very few of them are full or even half. That category is just for actors with Native American somewhere in their blood whether it be 1/2, 1/4, 1/8... Just like under Irish-American actors, many are 1/2 or 1/4, but unfortunately there are more Americans who trace their roots to Ireland than in the Americas. That is why even actors who have a slight amount of Native American or American Indian heritage, if it is mentionable and has been, there is no reason why they should not be listed in that category along with the others. [[User:Shamir1|Shamir1]] 04:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I '''strongly''' disagree. Even Liv Tyler doesn't identify herself as Native American. Nevertheless, while I firmly disagree, I'll let your edits stand. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 04:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I've gotten in arguments over this before, and in general I think Wikipedia needs stronger standards on listing ethnicity of people. A lot of the ethnicities people add tend to be unsourced. But two in particular cause thorny issues, being Native American and Jewish ethnicity. For some reason, many people in America seem to fixate upon claiming Native American ancestry for themselves, usually based on a family legend that some great-grandmother was Native American. [[Vine Deloria, Jr.]]'s excellent book ''Custer Died for Your Sins'' puts forward a credible explanation of this cultural phenomenon, I highly recommend it. The other ethnicity that can cause issues is Judaism, because there is a great deal of disagreement over whether it is a religion or an ethnicity, and also because to some people it has become a loaded term. Do you know of any page that covers Wiki guidelines on including tags relating to ethnicity? Because so far I've been approaching it by the seat of my pants. [[User:Kasreyn|Kasreyn]] 09:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Licensing and my deleted images ====<br /> <br /> Hello Yamla,<br /> Thank you so much for your helpfulness! I have changed some details in my disouted image profile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scarlettj_vogue0405.jpg) attaching the fair use rationale for the file. I hope that it will be acceptable. Sorry about now having added it before but I think I simply missed this part when reading the text in the box under the image. Regarding my deleted scannings, another user had warned me that they weren't of low-resolution so I removed them. Please forgive me if I have caused you any inconvenience or trouble, I am new in this place but I will be more careful next time. Thanks again. Best wishes from [[User:ErikaG|ErikaG]] 21:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Paris Hilton Fansite ====<br /> Wikipedia allows one fansite link for a page. therefore im putting www.hiltonfan.com for Paris Hilton as external link. thanks. [[User:Grace Kalenda|Grace Kalenda]] 03:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No. [[WP:EL]] says, &quot;On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such.&quot; hiltonfan is a relatively new fansite and can hardly be considered a ''major'' fansite. Additionally, Paris Hilton doesn't really have many fansites. Finally, that information is in the &quot;Occasionally acceptable links&quot; section. The site is inappropriate. Do not add it back. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Another question ====<br /> <br /> Hi, it's me again. I just want to ask if I put the fair use rationale for my image on this page /http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scarlettj_vogue0405.jpg/ in the right place because I haven't seen the fair use rationale in other users' image profiles. Thanks in advance. [[User:ErikaG|ErikaG]] 18:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well, the problem with this particular image is that it is '''not''' appropriate to use simply to illustrate the person. It can only be used to illustrate the publication of the magazine. In this particular case, it would be reasonable to use this in the [[Scarlett Johansson]] article if there's discussion about that particular Vogue magazine. You'd probably get by if you noted that Ms. Johansson has modelled for a number of magazines, appearing on the front cover of many including Vogue. This is a tricky matter made harder because the use of another magazine cover in the [[Naomi Campell]] article is almost certainly not fair-use. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Angelina Jolie ====<br /> <br /> I thought magazine covers were acceptable? [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Magazine covers are legitimate (provided you provide a detailed fair-use rationale, provided the title is clearly visible, etc.) but that image was ''clearly'' not a magzine cover (or if so, had the title removed, though I think I remember the magazine and it had an entirely different cover). --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Could it count as promotional material then? And why do you believe that the lower back tattoo article needs to be deleted? [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::No, ''most definitely not''. It did not come from a promotional kit. It's a clear copyright violation. It's just a scan of an inner page of a magazine. As to why the lower back tattoo article should be deleted (and I only prod'ed it, not marked it for deletion) is explained therein... I don't think it is notable when we already have an article on tattoos. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Very well. But I am against your decision to &quot;prod'ed&quot; the [[Lower back tattoo]], because the main tattoo article does not go into detail, nor does it provide pop culture references (a section that I plan on expanding in the near future). [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I believe the [[tattoo]] article could easily incorporate all of the information in the [[lower back tattoo]] article. However, you have convinced me that this is not clearcut, and you have made a productive start on the article itself. I'll remove the prod and leave you to develop the article. If later nominated for deletion, I will reevaluate and vote accordingly. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 01:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Thanks for your patience. I will tag the article for clean up until I get a chance to edit and expand it. And in terms of licensing, what catgorey would [http://www.sunfyre.com/angelinajolie.htm this image] fall under? It has been featured in several publications, so I assume it must be under public domain. But then again, I know very little when it comes to copy right laws. [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 01:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Given that the page you list blatantly violates copyright on a number of other pictures included therein, I strongly suggest you don't incorporate that image. However, leaving aside the web page's blatant copyright violations, the page itself claims to be &quot;Copyright 2004 Jason Tweed and Sunfyre.com, All Rights Reserved.&quot;. That means (if true, which is clearly not the case) that the image would be copyrighted and in this case, no fair-use justification could be provided. &quot;Promotional&quot; can only be used if it came from a promotional kit (basically). Copyright and fair use is a bitch. Much of what gets used on Wikipedia is a violation, unfortunately. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Damn. Oh well, I'm at least glad I notified you before I wasted my time uploading another image. Thanks for your help [[User:Chubdub|Chubdub]] 02:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== severina ====<br /> <br /> hi yamla, i recently came accross the severina vickovic article and IMO the last paragraph is POV and rather badly written. i ve tried to fix some things up but an anon would revert. i would like to know your opinion on the matter. you might find it useful to have a look at the discussion pg first. best--[[User:Greece666|Greece666]] 23:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sorry, I've been busy and forgot to respond to this one. I'll keep a closer eye on that article in the near future. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 02:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::thx for your reply yamla--[[User:Greece666|Greece666]] 02:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Re:Fair use====<br /> You placed a notice about [[:Image:Brazilinvasion7.png]]. I have had the image deleted and put a text box in its place for the article. Thank you for pointing out. Regards, --&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;[[User:Anirudhsbh|'''A'''ndy'''123''']]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;small&gt; &lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;[[User talk:Anirudhsbh|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 12:27, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS ====<br /> <br /> THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS FROM MARIA SHARAPOVA PAGE.<br /> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND REMEMBER: DO NOT DELETING MY LINKS.<br /> ALL OF THEM ARE APPROPRIATE. REMEMBER IT! --unsigned comments from [[User:Gooverup|Gooverup]] ([[User talk:Gooverup|talk]])<br /> <br /> ==== THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS ====<br /> <br /> THANKS FOR DELETING EXTERNAL LINKS FROM MARIA SHARAPOVA PAGE.<br /> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND REMEMBER: DO NOT DELETING MY LINKS.<br /> ALL OF THEM ARE APPROPRIATE. REMEMBER IT! [[User:Gooverup|gooverup]] 15:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please stop posting duplicate messages on my talk page. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 15:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> A link on Nude celebrities on the Internet to a site WITH PORN IS MUCH INAPPROPRIATE. I'M TALKING ABOUT The Case Files of the Fake Detective YOU UNDERSTAND ME CLEARLY? I DELETE THIS LINK. DO NOT REVERT IT AGAIN! [[User:Gooverup|gooverup]] 15:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That web site is specifically appropriate to the whole subject of celebrity fakes. It has, for example, been covered in Wired Magazine. --Yamla 15:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== You're pathetic ====<br /> <br /> Don't ever send me another message. Also, Yamla, please look up the definition of vandalism, idiot. Freak. Seriously, you're '''pathetic'''. Oh, you're harrassing me, btw. --unsigned comments from [[User:75.2.177.121|75.2.177.121]] ([[User talk:75.2.177.121|talk]])<br /> <br /> :Vandalism warning was appropriate, your vandalism was reverted by three separate people. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== [[Nude celebrities on the Internet]] and [[WP:3RR]] ====<br /> <br /> You've already passed [[WP:3RR]] I suggest you stop and try engaging in discussion, further activity could result in you being blocked form editing. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]&lt;sup&gt;(&lt;font color=&quot;mediumseagreen&quot;&gt;[[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;)&lt;/sup&gt; 17:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Actually, if you check, you'll find that I have ''not'' broken 3RR. I have made at most three reverts and in fact, the reverts were not to the same version of the article as I added a warning note about partial nudity. Furthermore, I have tried to engage Gooverup in discussion. Additionally, I am not the only person reverting Gooverup's changes. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: My mistake you've made 3 reverts. If you are the only one reverting or not is irrelevant, the rule is to prevent disruption due to edit warring, so trying to engage the other editor is the correct thing to do. I have also warned him. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]&lt;sup&gt;(&lt;font color=&quot;mediumseagreen&quot;&gt;[[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]&lt;/font&gt;)&lt;/sup&gt; 17:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I understand that and actually had planned to stop reverting for 24 hours. As to not being the only one reverting, I mention this because I believe my reversions would qualify as reverting vandalism, though obviously this is not clear-cut. Best for me to bow out for at least 24 hours which is what I'll do. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 18:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Yeah Poliwiki====<br /> Hey wtf I was trying to fix that website (wilmer valderrama) you should then fix that for me, he actually lived in venezuela since he was 3 years old (he later moved to miami), whatever (check that out in any website). <br /> <br /> &quot;Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Wilmer Valderrama. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox.&quot;<br /> <br /> I recommend you to take the time to write the warning message instead of copying and pasting the same sentence.<br /> <br /> You should get a real job. --unsigned comments from [[User:200.8.22.154|200.8.22.154]] ([[User talk|200.8.22.154|talk]])<br /> <br /> :You changed his place of birth. This is simply not true. [http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Lot/9547/urban.html He was born in Miami, Florida]. This information is readily available from hundreds of sites on the Internet. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 17:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ====Significant problems Respond====<br /> But these movies im making are real movies! And YouTube is the only source to release my movies! And I already released ''[[Chocolate's Web]]''! This is YOUR last warning. --IKR1 07:20, 27 May 2006 (PT)<br /> <br /> :Your movies aren't [[WP:N|notable]] and are almost certain to be deleted. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Unwarranted warning==<br /> <br /> You gave me a warning and i wasnt even rude? Do you like Fawlty Towers? I love the bit where Fawlty says &quot;You stupid stuck up toffy-nosed half-witted upperclass pile of puss!&quot;. Don't you? Anyway, thats off the point. Dont get my intentions wrong, I was just quoting one my favourite sitcom lines. thats all.</div>

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<p>82.24.117.210: </p> <hr /> <div>Previous discussions are archived here:<br /> <br /> *[[Talk:Red hair/Archive 1]]<br /> <br /> -----<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Martha Stewart show bit==<br /> <br /> I took out a paragraph describing a Martha Stewart show on redheads, as I don't think it added anything. Someone else disagreed and put it back - fair enough. But it's also (IHMO) poorly written at the moment. Would someone care to try to improve it? [[User:Ocicat|Ocicat]] 19:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==East Asian red-tinted hair==<br /> Numerous people I know with Chinese/Japanese/Korean origin have NATURAL red tint to their jet-black (from afar) hair. Is this a variant of &quot;the ginger gene&quot; or some other cause? It seems that most (Northern Mongoloids) have a red tint in their hair, naturally, in my experience. I am aware of the popular practice of dying hair a red tint in Asian countries, but many people have this naturally. Additional info? Shoudl this be added to the article? [[User:Chilledsunshine|Chilledsunshine]] 21:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, especially a good picture. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 09:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 红须绿眼 ==<br /> <br /> theres also a chinese saying, refering to western people. 红须绿眼 {{unsigned|Chinoiserie}}<br /> <br /> :What does that translate as? [[User:Hbackman|Hbackman]] 06:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Google translates it as &quot;Red to green eyes.&quot;--[[User:Gandalfe|Gandalfe]] 17:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> red beard green eyes {{unsigned|Chinoiserie}}<br /> <br /> ==Muhammad==<br /> It is not only white-history that claims that muhammad had red-hair, other sources also maintain that he did, Martin Lings for example. Von Scherwins work contains most of the informataion on this. {{unsigned|203.82.48.54}}<br /> <br /> :&quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_hair&amp;diff=44221674&amp;oldid=44175969 According to some sources]&quot; is easy to justify with &quot;some&quot; [[Wikipedia:Cite sources|references]]. A Google search for &quot;[[Martin Lings]]&quot; + &quot;[[red hair]]&quot; + various spellings of [[Muhammad]] comes up with '''[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;q=Mohammed++%7C+muhammad+%22red+hair%22+%22martin+lings%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta= eight]''' unique hits, none of which corroborate this claim.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Chocolateboy|chocolateboy]] 00:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Apparently there are hadith (narration about the life of Mohammed) that say he had red hair in his beard, but that's all. See [[Talk:Muhammad#Hair Colour|Talk:Muhammad]] {{unsigned|83.104.185.49}}<br /> <br /> He was supposed to have used henna, so you'd have to be clear on what his real hair color was supposed to have been. [[User:Schizombie|Esquizombi]] 16:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Africans ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Red hair also occurs amongst people of African descent; famous African-American redheads include Malcolm X.&quot;<br /> <br /> Whoaa- Malcolm X attributed his red hair to the fact that his grandmother (or great grandmother?) was raped by her Scottish owner. Don't quote me on that because I don't have his autobiography with me here. But I asked about that on the Malcolm X entry and someone confirmed that is in his autobigraphy. My point is - Is there ever red hair in black people from Africa that are not mixed race? Also, that is kind of a loaded sentence. I don't think you could just leave it the way it is without an explanation. IMHO --[[User:CDA|cda]] 17:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gingerphobia? Redophile? ==<br /> <br /> Can someone put some kind of reference up for those terms? They seem awfully unencyclopedic and made up.<br /> <br /> They are certainly not scientific. While &quot;gingerphobia&quot; is quoted (without attribution), &quot;redophile&quot; is treated as an established term. Seems more like a pun on the word &quot;paedophile&quot; to me. -- [[User:Ashmodai|Ashmodai]] 07:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The [[Catherine Tate]] episode includes the line, &quot;the police are some of the most gingerphobic people in society&quot; (2x01). Also see [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1999/02/99/e-cyclopedia/686977.stm]. Dunno about &quot;redophile&quot;.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Chocolateboy|chocolateboy]] 22:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's picky, somehow. I have seen ginger-head police-people myself here in dublin, ireland, more than once. What's true is the superstition about redhead, barefoot woman (in the middle age): you must cross your fingers then. If it is a redhead boy, you must spit out. If he does, then you are bewitched for that day. At own sites, i have the freedom to tell people things which are not completely true (but they contain some truth). If you see a redhead person, that's also good luck. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 08:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Australian info ==<br /> <br /> i added some info from Australia i thought should be on there about the word Wranger before another Australian beat me to it!<br /> <br /> == Offensive ==<br /> <br /> I removed the reference to ginger minger as it is deeply offensive, probably racist and no longer &quot;part of popular culture&quot;. It never was. Redheads were an easy target for lad culture on TV in the UK for a short time but broadcast guidelines now consider it offensive and its prevent. <br /> <br /> Similarly for wranger. Although I haven't lived in OZ for a couple of years I have never heard of this term, and no doubt its use will also disappear from TV in time. Supposedly the terms comes from comparing readheads to Orangutans. Would it be acceptable to compare a black person to an ape because they somehow resemble an ape. Definitely not. <br /> <br /> The popularization of such term on Wiki is deeply offensive. Would Wikipedia considered the popularization of similar offensive terms for blacks or asians acceptable? Definitely not. <br /> <br /> If you think this is over the top, wait till you have a red-headed child as I have and encounter people who think insulting terms like these are &quot;smart&quot; because they've seen them on TV or websites like this.<br /> <br /> Shame.<br /> <br /> *Wow. Extremely well written, anonymous. SOme of this, especially the first paragraph should go on the main page. I think it is better to instead of just deleting something, that we should document the history. I think the word nigger is on wikipedia and the historic timeline. I agree that racism against redhaired people is real ethnic racism. What, for example are you talking about UK TV. Is there something written that says &quot;from now on no one can be racist against red-haired people&quot;? I'd like to know about that. Maybe there should be a page just about racism against red-heads. Is there a page just about racism against black people or is it all together?--[[User:CDA|cda]] 00:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == disscusion ==<br /> <br /> i dont think its offensive, i have red hair myself and get called Wranger, Wrangs but most of the time now its more of a nick name then a insult. I think its a bit much to says its racist its more of a fad, people used to dine out on jews, then italians calling them wogs and things,japanies and chinese with things like slanties, dark skinned people before all that, i mean its a passing thing and its almost over any way, soon society will find a new target to vilify. But there is reason to take it off as it isnt very purdent to have it on a encyclopedia but there could be a sub section put in a while once the red haired hype has died down.<br /> <br /> == phobia/philia - some word clearing required ==<br /> <br /> phobia: greek word, fear of something. usually it makes up compound words.<br /> philia: greek word, love or affection of something.<br /> <br /> it occurs, but mixing greek and english does not sound very much.<br /> latin is more compatible (though not anyone speaks it).<br /> for red: ruber m, rubra f, rubrum n <br /> -rubraphil (to charge it only to love redhead woman)<br /> -ruberphil (does not sound)<br /> or try japanese: red-&gt; &quot;aka&quot; -&gt; &quot;akaphil&quot;. does not sound.<br /> probably &quot;akai&quot;?<br /> <br /> people talk in greek and latin words, but do they know their concepts, styles, views (their ancient world)?<br /> it really helps to use a dicitonary.<br /> <br /> i do not &quot;hear&quot; the word &quot;redophil&quot; sounding much valid.<br /> something like &quot;podo-phil&quot; (no one uses it).<br /> it sounds redo-phil (the affection/a preference to re-do something).<br /> red-o-phil is &quot;bad&quot; style (something like &quot;future-o-rama&quot;).<br /> people should not use such contructions.<br /> <br /> if you do not understand things: i cleared up words using a dictionary. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 11:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> There is not sufficient evidence of the term &quot;redophil&quot; on the internet. &quot;redophilia&quot; gives 124 hits (arachnophobia gives 232,000 hits). Hence it is a &quot;slang term&quot;, but a uncommon one. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 12:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The word is &quot;redophile&quot;, not &quot;redophil&quot;. It has 10,900 hits on Google. What's your point? [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::WOW. Feel free to use it. I am not redo-phile. If i paint my hairs red (not coloring them red), using real paint, this speaks on its own. I do not require this term. I do not see it efficient to edit this article anymore. redo-phile: the philia to redo something. ME NOT. It does not belong to (the) weasley article. Probably i remove it from there, when someone adds it. Because, thank of you, good grief, i can call it non-sense, and un-related vandalism. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: You miss my point again. I have no opinion on whether &quot;redophilia&quot; belongs in this article or not. I don't care one way or the other. I was merely pointing out that the justification YOU give for YOUR objection is based on a misunderstanding and a spelling error: you googled for the wrong word when you did your research. That's why you got so few hits; you spelled the word wrong. Please refrain from editing this article. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 17:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Nicknames for people with red/orange hair==<br /> *Tomato <br /> *Redhead <br /> *Ginger <br /> <br /> Hello red-heads. How do you feel about these terms? Any other friendly words? Do you see this list &quot;vandalism/offensive&quot;? [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The specific vandalism I referred to was your claim that 'ginger' is used as a nickname for the Gaiety Theatre on South King Street in Dublin, Ireland. Not only is that not true but it is entirely irrelevant in an article on red hair. That said, the edit you are talking about here issuperfluous. We already mention that 'redhead' and 'ginger' are nicknames and I dispute the use of 'tomato' which you did not [[WP:CITE|cite]]. I'm also going to remove your NPOV tag because you have not mentioned your reasoning here. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Superfluous --&gt; useful word, i keep it in mind. I believe the first part of the word &quot;Gaiety&quot; refers to the french &quot;gai&quot;, in a sense of meaning &quot;merriment&quot;. Cockney is a bit rude and talks in tomatoes, see the entry. Hence it is not violating the rules of [[cockney]]. Sorry if it looks like doing a bit vandalism. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The removing of the NPOV tag: it does not bug too much, and i do not believe the article is neutral, perfect or complete.<br /> &quot;Tomato&quot; --&gt; htpp://rottentomatoes.com<br /> <br /> ::: Huh? What does rottentomatoes.com have to do with red hair? No one is suggesting that &quot;tomato&quot; is not a word; it's just not a word REFERRING TO RED HAIR. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Probably you are too picky with asking for quotations, &lt;b&gt;it is not a reason to discard data&lt;/b&gt; (by policy), but it is possible to put a template on an article, which &quot;does not cite its sources&quot;. This means the complete article, not a single sentence. redophilia is not very widespread as well, 124 hits do not suggest that it is official slang. <br /> <br /> By the way i would like to take steps to improve this article, but i am too technical sometimes. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Being technical:<br /> &quot;We already mention that 'redhead' and 'ginger' are nicknames and I dispute the use<br /> of 'tomato' which you did not cite...&quot;<br /> *I do not know: who is &quot;We&quot;<br /> *It is accepted practice to produce &quot;extract&quot; sections, which contain data which is &quot;most relevant&quot;, especially in list form. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == cockney slang ==<br /> <br /> Is not it more the usage &quot;something is ''ginger''&quot;, which means queer, somehow, or dubious (like a unserious contract)?<br /> I do not believe that cockney calls &quot;redhead&quot; people &quot;ginger&quot;, to outline their membership to a special population group (i.e. one which is frequents bars).<br /> The article gives this idea.<br /> It requires to consult someone how knows cockney, to verify it.<br /> I believe cockney says &quot;this is ginger to me&quot;, and it does not have any reference to &quot;redhead&quot; people.<br /> :Well, I must say this is more likely than your contention that &quot;ginger&quot; refers to a specific building in Ireland. Nevertheless, you raise a good point. It is entirely possible that the term, &quot;ginger&quot;, does not refer to either gay people ''or'' a building in Ireland. Regardless, neither have '''anything''' to do with red hair and so I will remove the reference. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am no particular expert in Cockney rhyming slang but I have certainly heard &quot;ginger&quot; used as rhyming slang for &quot;queer&quot; (i.e. from &quot;ginger beer&quot;). The implication was homosexual but not especialy pejorative. There was no association with red hair.<br /> <br /> By the way &quot;Red hair&quot; just refers to animated objects with red hair, this includes various animals.<br /> The article needs rewrite towards talking about &quot;Red hair&quot; only, and not &quot;Red-haired_People&quot;.<br /> <br /> The pictures of &quot;Redhead people&quot; are nice, i ''like'' them personally.<br /> But, i do not see where to draw a line (how many to include), or why to include a specific person.<br /> A &quot;gallery&quot; of redhead people should be open to anyone red-head, probably it suits to open a special wiki for it.<br /> It is out of scope of a wikipedia article.<br /> I can connect a wiki immediately, one which is open to anyone to edit/add content.<br /> An article might include a picture of a prominent person (which is international recognizeable).<br /> <br /> The doughbarber.com site displays adverts, and opens pop-up windows. Hence it is a link to adverts, which might get removed (anyway it does not have to take place).<br /> The sub-page containing the information is not &quot;advert-free&quot;, and not &quot;pop-up free&quot;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 08:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == REWRITE ==<br /> <br /> if you prefer not to talk to me- probably you are scared from other websites.<br /> I am absolutely pro-redhead.<br /> However, this article is about the hair, and not the people.<br /> I plan to re-write it, and requested an extra article abuot the people.<br /> The cockney remark belongs to a dictionary of cockney, a reference to it is OK.<br /> There, it is possibly to demand that it figures the truth. (cockney: something &quot;looks&quot; ''ginger'')<br /> Wikipedia is not a closed society. Any redhead person can add pictures of own, how it looks... I would love it, but it is not an image gallery. It does not bug me and i wont remove the images, just saying. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now, this article undergoes various edit steps, which are not announced/discussed here.<br /> I have added the template [[Weasel words]], someone has removed it again.<br /> The passage about &quot;redophilia&quot; is gone, but it still has weasel words, especially &quot;some&quot;.<br /> I have added ==Nickname for redhead people==, including tomato (there is evidence for this).<br /> This was called &quot;vandalism&quot;.<br /> Now i try discuss this on the village pump (vandalism vs edit mistake). [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 12:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ** Akidd dublin: your many edits to this page are a source of frustration for me. They are of a uniformly low standard. I am guessing that you are not a native speaker of English, because you are obviously intelligent but make many, many small errors in spelling and grammar, of a sort that are unlikely in someone who is simply uneducated. Small errors like these can be corrected. But larger ones, of comprehension and appropriateness, cannot so easily be fixed.<br /> <br /> In addition, you have continually mixed up different topics. The accusation of &quot;vandalism&quot; was made in reference to a completely different edit than the one you claim; it was about the Gaiety Theatre and cockney rhyming slang. That insertion was both inaccurate and inappropriate. Vandalism is too strong a word for this error, and the person who said has retracted it. But it's more than just a simple error. <br /> <br /> The edit to which you are referring to here, like most of your edits, is grammatically incorrect (should be &quot;Nicknames&quot;) and, again, pointless: the information is already in the article, except for &quot;tomato&quot;. You claim evidence; let's see it.<br /> <br /> In short, I would like to encourage you to add value to the articles you edit. If you make valuable edits, others can correct your spelling and grammar. But if you add off-topic or repetitive nonsense, these edits must be removed. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 17:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I absolutely do not get the point. I have not made ''many edits'' to this article. I added the section nicknames, three lines, and re-spelled the ''ghey'' line. That's all the edits, Yes, of course the templates. There were successful: &quot;redophil&quot; is gone. Guess no one says that. Like podo-phil, theretically valid, but not used. So what are these ''many edits''?<br /> :Can you list mistakes i made within other articles? I do not spell small letters, i know it is not accepted for articles. There are numerous places as of 2006, where this takes place. I am not the only one.&lt;br&gt;<br /> :I do not get if you refer to my edits to this articles, or to which other articles, i have created, or edited. There are visible from CTR-L (signature).&lt;br&gt;<br /> :You say pointless (duplicate data), see the [[Yahoo! Groups]] (i have edited much of it). I do believe some want to read float-text, others are looking for a feature list. I do believe it is good right now, and not full of mistakes, ''like most of my edits''.<br /> :I do not understand, why [[Yahoo! Avatars]] is unrelated- they support the display of redhead avatars. Personally i do not know, if a link to [[Cockney]] makes sense, or if it is (again) considered edit mistake/vandalism, if i just add one internal link. For other articles, i am not that pedantic, however i do not really remove data (see [[Matsuri]], can you do it better? - it has political connection, and was in bad state. It is not required to remove the link table. It is valid to use html exceptionally). A little talk about few my edits (grammar?) - see [http://rottentomatoes.com rottentomatoes.com]. The Dough Barber site pops up adverts, or it has popped up adverts in the past. It would not be wrong to switch to pop-up free web hosting. I do not get the point why i can not add rottentomatoes.com to here, just because i can not proove that it relates to &quot;tomato&quot; nickname. I have read (more than once) the british make spelling/grammar mistakes themselves. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 08:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You do not understand why a link to &quot;rottentomatoes.com&quot; is inappropriate for an article on red hair? Are you serious? [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 23:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: It puts people (browsing the article) to cinema movies - so to speak. that's NPOV, true, polically correct talking that red haired people are not... we leave it at this point. This site (rottentomtoes.com) does not attack red-haired people. Look, the article contained unsuitable stuff before i arrived. By the way i do not respond to Akidd_dublin anymore. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Removal of the South Park reference==<br /> <br /> Why was the link to the episode of South Park entitled Ginger Kids (can't get any more on-topic than that) removed from the Red Hair in Popular Culture section? South Park is a well known social satire and expresses the opinions of a lot of people, the episode itself highlights many views of people with Red Hair and therefore it is appropriate to this article. Added it back in<br /> <br /> ==Removal of link==<br /> I removed a link that I found to be not working. Just letting you know.[[User:Cjflash|Cjflash]] 03:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)cjflash<br /> <br /> ==Changing of picture==<br /> <br /> I changed the picture of the redheaded dude, it was more Auburn. Instead I have put in a picture of a man with very red ginger hair. Fnarf999 changed it back to my annoyance, he clearly hasnt got a clue. {{unsigned|Edgovan20}}<br /> :[[WP:CIVIL|Be civil]], please. Editors can have a difference of opinion on things like this without being clue-impaired. Auburn and &quot;ginger&quot; are both shades of red, and it's a judgment call which is the better image. Since it's your picture we're debating, maybe your annoyance comes from taking this a little personally?<br /> :Also, please add comments at the bottom of the page, not the top. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #f33&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;[[User talk:Rodii|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #669&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;rodii&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;middot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 01:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> I dont like the other pic, the guy looks a little creepy. Also its just distracting from the article, but I have decided to leave it seeing as the general consenus is that it should stay. However I added another picture, which is most definetely of cultural significance seperate from the other.<br /> :: I've reverted the picture back - the editors here need to talk this out on the talk page rather than playing revert tennis. Settle on a consensus on the images THEN change them - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 10:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> Oh and Peripitus, do not call the picture &quot;unattractive&quot;, i'm quite sure my friend would take offense to that. I dont see your picture on here at all...i wonder why. There is a page for people who look ugly you know, it doesnt have to go in your profile. - [[user:edgovan20|Ed]]<br /> ::::Perhaps you have misunderstood. The picture is unattractive that is not-[[aesthetics|aesthetic]]ally pleasing. This is not a slight on the subject but on the composition and overall impression the picture gives. The older picture is clearer and better illustrates the subject of the article - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 12:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's not &quot;your friend,&quot; it's you, and the only thing you've contributed to Wikipedia is to plant pictures of you on various pages--and none of them are really satisfactory images for the articles they're in. I don't like either picture, actually, but the older one is definitely better to illustrate red hair. For one thing, there's only one person in it, so there's no potential confusion. It's also more of a closeup, so more detail is visible. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #f33&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;[[User talk:Rodii|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #669&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;rodii&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;middot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 11:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Talk about a [[WP:LAME|lame edit war]]. I've protected the page and request both sides to discuss the pros and cons of the images here on the talk page. [[User:Angr|Angr]] ([[User talk:Angr|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Angr|c]]) 12:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> No its not me, it is my friend Ben Thompson. I know the summary of the pic says E W Govan, but that was meant to mean I took the photo. Roddi...put &quot;wan&quot; and &quot;ker&quot; together and that is what you are. The current picture is far too &quot;in your face&quot;, he looks a bit creepy and generaly does not make it very &quot;aethetically pleasing&quot;. My friends picture is not so &quot;in your face&quot;, it get the message across clearly.</div>

82.24.117.210 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Red_hair&diff=55267238 2006-05-26T15:46:52Z

<p>82.24.117.210: Why the current picture sucks</p> <hr /> <div>Previous discussions are archived here:<br /> <br /> *[[Talk:Red hair/Archive 1]]<br /> <br /> -----<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Martha Stewart show bit==<br /> <br /> I took out a paragraph describing a Martha Stewart show on redheads, as I don't think it added anything. Someone else disagreed and put it back - fair enough. But it's also (IHMO) poorly written at the moment. Would someone care to try to improve it? [[User:Ocicat|Ocicat]] 19:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==East Asian red-tinted hair==<br /> Numerous people I know with Chinese/Japanese/Korean origin have NATURAL red tint to their jet-black (from afar) hair. Is this a variant of &quot;the ginger gene&quot; or some other cause? It seems that most (Northern Mongoloids) have a red tint in their hair, naturally, in my experience. I am aware of the popular practice of dying hair a red tint in Asian countries, but many people have this naturally. Additional info? Shoudl this be added to the article? [[User:Chilledsunshine|Chilledsunshine]] 21:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, especially a good picture. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 09:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 红须绿眼 ==<br /> <br /> theres also a chinese saying, refering to western people. 红须绿眼 {{unsigned|Chinoiserie}}<br /> <br /> :What does that translate as? [[User:Hbackman|Hbackman]] 06:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Google translates it as &quot;Red to green eyes.&quot;--[[User:Gandalfe|Gandalfe]] 17:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> red beard green eyes {{unsigned|Chinoiserie}}<br /> <br /> ==Muhammad==<br /> It is not only white-history that claims that muhammad had red-hair, other sources also maintain that he did, Martin Lings for example. Von Scherwins work contains most of the informataion on this. {{unsigned|203.82.48.54}}<br /> <br /> :&quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_hair&amp;diff=44221674&amp;oldid=44175969 According to some sources]&quot; is easy to justify with &quot;some&quot; [[Wikipedia:Cite sources|references]]. A Google search for &quot;[[Martin Lings]]&quot; + &quot;[[red hair]]&quot; + various spellings of [[Muhammad]] comes up with '''[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;q=Mohammed++%7C+muhammad+%22red+hair%22+%22martin+lings%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta= eight]''' unique hits, none of which corroborate this claim.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Chocolateboy|chocolateboy]] 00:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Apparently there are hadith (narration about the life of Mohammed) that say he had red hair in his beard, but that's all. See [[Talk:Muhammad#Hair Colour|Talk:Muhammad]] {{unsigned|83.104.185.49}}<br /> <br /> He was supposed to have used henna, so you'd have to be clear on what his real hair color was supposed to have been. [[User:Schizombie|Esquizombi]] 16:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Africans ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Red hair also occurs amongst people of African descent; famous African-American redheads include Malcolm X.&quot;<br /> <br /> Whoaa- Malcolm X attributed his red hair to the fact that his grandmother (or great grandmother?) was raped by her Scottish owner. Don't quote me on that because I don't have his autobiography with me here. But I asked about that on the Malcolm X entry and someone confirmed that is in his autobigraphy. My point is - Is there ever red hair in black people from Africa that are not mixed race? Also, that is kind of a loaded sentence. I don't think you could just leave it the way it is without an explanation. IMHO --[[User:CDA|cda]] 17:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gingerphobia? Redophile? ==<br /> <br /> Can someone put some kind of reference up for those terms? They seem awfully unencyclopedic and made up.<br /> <br /> They are certainly not scientific. While &quot;gingerphobia&quot; is quoted (without attribution), &quot;redophile&quot; is treated as an established term. Seems more like a pun on the word &quot;paedophile&quot; to me. -- [[User:Ashmodai|Ashmodai]] 07:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The [[Catherine Tate]] episode includes the line, &quot;the police are some of the most gingerphobic people in society&quot; (2x01). Also see [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1999/02/99/e-cyclopedia/686977.stm]. Dunno about &quot;redophile&quot;.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Chocolateboy|chocolateboy]] 22:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's picky, somehow. I have seen ginger-head police-people myself here in dublin, ireland, more than once. What's true is the superstition about redhead, barefoot woman (in the middle age): you must cross your fingers then. If it is a redhead boy, you must spit out. If he does, then you are bewitched for that day. At own sites, i have the freedom to tell people things which are not completely true (but they contain some truth). If you see a redhead person, that's also good luck. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 08:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Australian info ==<br /> <br /> i added some info from Australia i thought should be on there about the word Wranger before another Australian beat me to it!<br /> <br /> == Offensive ==<br /> <br /> I removed the reference to ginger minger as it is deeply offensive, probably racist and no longer &quot;part of popular culture&quot;. It never was. Redheads were an easy target for lad culture on TV in the UK for a short time but broadcast guidelines now consider it offensive and its prevent. <br /> <br /> Similarly for wranger. Although I haven't lived in OZ for a couple of years I have never heard of this term, and no doubt its use will also disappear from TV in time. Supposedly the terms comes from comparing readheads to Orangutans. Would it be acceptable to compare a black person to an ape because they somehow resemble an ape. Definitely not. <br /> <br /> The popularization of such term on Wiki is deeply offensive. Would Wikipedia considered the popularization of similar offensive terms for blacks or asians acceptable? Definitely not. <br /> <br /> If you think this is over the top, wait till you have a red-headed child as I have and encounter people who think insulting terms like these are &quot;smart&quot; because they've seen them on TV or websites like this.<br /> <br /> Shame.<br /> <br /> *Wow. Extremely well written, anonymous. SOme of this, especially the first paragraph should go on the main page. I think it is better to instead of just deleting something, that we should document the history. I think the word nigger is on wikipedia and the historic timeline. I agree that racism against redhaired people is real ethnic racism. What, for example are you talking about UK TV. Is there something written that says &quot;from now on no one can be racist against red-haired people&quot;? I'd like to know about that. Maybe there should be a page just about racism against red-heads. Is there a page just about racism against black people or is it all together?--[[User:CDA|cda]] 00:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == disscusion ==<br /> <br /> i dont think its offensive, i have red hair myself and get called Wranger, Wrangs but most of the time now its more of a nick name then a insult. I think its a bit much to says its racist its more of a fad, people used to dine out on jews, then italians calling them wogs and things,japanies and chinese with things like slanties, dark skinned people before all that, i mean its a passing thing and its almost over any way, soon society will find a new target to vilify. But there is reason to take it off as it isnt very purdent to have it on a encyclopedia but there could be a sub section put in a while once the red haired hype has died down.<br /> <br /> == phobia/philia - some word clearing required ==<br /> <br /> phobia: greek word, fear of something. usually it makes up compound words.<br /> philia: greek word, love or affection of something.<br /> <br /> it occurs, but mixing greek and english does not sound very much.<br /> latin is more compatible (though not anyone speaks it).<br /> for red: ruber m, rubra f, rubrum n <br /> -rubraphil (to charge it only to love redhead woman)<br /> -ruberphil (does not sound)<br /> or try japanese: red-&gt; &quot;aka&quot; -&gt; &quot;akaphil&quot;. does not sound.<br /> probably &quot;akai&quot;?<br /> <br /> people talk in greek and latin words, but do they know their concepts, styles, views (their ancient world)?<br /> it really helps to use a dicitonary.<br /> <br /> i do not &quot;hear&quot; the word &quot;redophil&quot; sounding much valid.<br /> something like &quot;podo-phil&quot; (no one uses it).<br /> it sounds redo-phil (the affection/a preference to re-do something).<br /> red-o-phil is &quot;bad&quot; style (something like &quot;future-o-rama&quot;).<br /> people should not use such contructions.<br /> <br /> if you do not understand things: i cleared up words using a dictionary. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 11:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> There is not sufficient evidence of the term &quot;redophil&quot; on the internet. &quot;redophilia&quot; gives 124 hits (arachnophobia gives 232,000 hits). Hence it is a &quot;slang term&quot;, but a uncommon one. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 12:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The word is &quot;redophile&quot;, not &quot;redophil&quot;. It has 10,900 hits on Google. What's your point? [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::WOW. Feel free to use it. I am not redo-phile. If i paint my hairs red (not coloring them red), using real paint, this speaks on its own. I do not require this term. I do not see it efficient to edit this article anymore. redo-phile: the philia to redo something. ME NOT. It does not belong to (the) weasley article. Probably i remove it from there, when someone adds it. Because, thank of you, good grief, i can call it non-sense, and un-related vandalism. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: You miss my point again. I have no opinion on whether &quot;redophilia&quot; belongs in this article or not. I don't care one way or the other. I was merely pointing out that the justification YOU give for YOUR objection is based on a misunderstanding and a spelling error: you googled for the wrong word when you did your research. That's why you got so few hits; you spelled the word wrong. Please refrain from editing this article. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 17:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Nicknames for people with red/orange hair==<br /> *Tomato <br /> *Redhead <br /> *Ginger <br /> <br /> Hello red-heads. How do you feel about these terms? Any other friendly words? Do you see this list &quot;vandalism/offensive&quot;? [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The specific vandalism I referred to was your claim that 'ginger' is used as a nickname for the Gaiety Theatre on South King Street in Dublin, Ireland. Not only is that not true but it is entirely irrelevant in an article on red hair. That said, the edit you are talking about here issuperfluous. We already mention that 'redhead' and 'ginger' are nicknames and I dispute the use of 'tomato' which you did not [[WP:CITE|cite]]. I'm also going to remove your NPOV tag because you have not mentioned your reasoning here. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Superfluous --&gt; useful word, i keep it in mind. I believe the first part of the word &quot;Gaiety&quot; refers to the french &quot;gai&quot;, in a sense of meaning &quot;merriment&quot;. Cockney is a bit rude and talks in tomatoes, see the entry. Hence it is not violating the rules of [[cockney]]. Sorry if it looks like doing a bit vandalism. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The removing of the NPOV tag: it does not bug too much, and i do not believe the article is neutral, perfect or complete.<br /> &quot;Tomato&quot; --&gt; htpp://rottentomatoes.com<br /> <br /> ::: Huh? What does rottentomatoes.com have to do with red hair? No one is suggesting that &quot;tomato&quot; is not a word; it's just not a word REFERRING TO RED HAIR. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Probably you are too picky with asking for quotations, &lt;b&gt;it is not a reason to discard data&lt;/b&gt; (by policy), but it is possible to put a template on an article, which &quot;does not cite its sources&quot;. This means the complete article, not a single sentence. redophilia is not very widespread as well, 124 hits do not suggest that it is official slang. <br /> <br /> By the way i would like to take steps to improve this article, but i am too technical sometimes. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Being technical:<br /> &quot;We already mention that 'redhead' and 'ginger' are nicknames and I dispute the use<br /> of 'tomato' which you did not cite...&quot;<br /> *I do not know: who is &quot;We&quot;<br /> *It is accepted practice to produce &quot;extract&quot; sections, which contain data which is &quot;most relevant&quot;, especially in list form. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == cockney slang ==<br /> <br /> Is not it more the usage &quot;something is ''ginger''&quot;, which means queer, somehow, or dubious (like a unserious contract)?<br /> I do not believe that cockney calls &quot;redhead&quot; people &quot;ginger&quot;, to outline their membership to a special population group (i.e. one which is frequents bars).<br /> The article gives this idea.<br /> It requires to consult someone how knows cockney, to verify it.<br /> I believe cockney says &quot;this is ginger to me&quot;, and it does not have any reference to &quot;redhead&quot; people.<br /> :Well, I must say this is more likely than your contention that &quot;ginger&quot; refers to a specific building in Ireland. Nevertheless, you raise a good point. It is entirely possible that the term, &quot;ginger&quot;, does not refer to either gay people ''or'' a building in Ireland. Regardless, neither have '''anything''' to do with red hair and so I will remove the reference. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am no particular expert in Cockney rhyming slang but I have certainly heard &quot;ginger&quot; used as rhyming slang for &quot;queer&quot; (i.e. from &quot;ginger beer&quot;). The implication was homosexual but not especialy pejorative. There was no association with red hair.<br /> <br /> By the way &quot;Red hair&quot; just refers to animated objects with red hair, this includes various animals.<br /> The article needs rewrite towards talking about &quot;Red hair&quot; only, and not &quot;Red-haired_People&quot;.<br /> <br /> The pictures of &quot;Redhead people&quot; are nice, i ''like'' them personally.<br /> But, i do not see where to draw a line (how many to include), or why to include a specific person.<br /> A &quot;gallery&quot; of redhead people should be open to anyone red-head, probably it suits to open a special wiki for it.<br /> It is out of scope of a wikipedia article.<br /> I can connect a wiki immediately, one which is open to anyone to edit/add content.<br /> An article might include a picture of a prominent person (which is international recognizeable).<br /> <br /> The doughbarber.com site displays adverts, and opens pop-up windows. Hence it is a link to adverts, which might get removed (anyway it does not have to take place).<br /> The sub-page containing the information is not &quot;advert-free&quot;, and not &quot;pop-up free&quot;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 08:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == REWRITE ==<br /> <br /> if you prefer not to talk to me- probably you are scared from other websites.<br /> I am absolutely pro-redhead.<br /> However, this article is about the hair, and not the people.<br /> I plan to re-write it, and requested an extra article abuot the people.<br /> The cockney remark belongs to a dictionary of cockney, a reference to it is OK.<br /> There, it is possibly to demand that it figures the truth. (cockney: something &quot;looks&quot; ''ginger'')<br /> Wikipedia is not a closed society. Any redhead person can add pictures of own, how it looks... I would love it, but it is not an image gallery. It does not bug me and i wont remove the images, just saying. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now, this article undergoes various edit steps, which are not announced/discussed here.<br /> I have added the template [[Weasel words]], someone has removed it again.<br /> The passage about &quot;redophilia&quot; is gone, but it still has weasel words, especially &quot;some&quot;.<br /> I have added ==Nickname for redhead people==, including tomato (there is evidence for this).<br /> This was called &quot;vandalism&quot;.<br /> Now i try discuss this on the village pump (vandalism vs edit mistake). [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 12:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ** Akidd dublin: your many edits to this page are a source of frustration for me. They are of a uniformly low standard. I am guessing that you are not a native speaker of English, because you are obviously intelligent but make many, many small errors in spelling and grammar, of a sort that are unlikely in someone who is simply uneducated. Small errors like these can be corrected. But larger ones, of comprehension and appropriateness, cannot so easily be fixed.<br /> <br /> In addition, you have continually mixed up different topics. The accusation of &quot;vandalism&quot; was made in reference to a completely different edit than the one you claim; it was about the Gaiety Theatre and cockney rhyming slang. That insertion was both inaccurate and inappropriate. Vandalism is too strong a word for this error, and the person who said has retracted it. But it's more than just a simple error. <br /> <br /> The edit to which you are referring to here, like most of your edits, is grammatically incorrect (should be &quot;Nicknames&quot;) and, again, pointless: the information is already in the article, except for &quot;tomato&quot;. You claim evidence; let's see it.<br /> <br /> In short, I would like to encourage you to add value to the articles you edit. If you make valuable edits, others can correct your spelling and grammar. But if you add off-topic or repetitive nonsense, these edits must be removed. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 17:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I absolutely do not get the point. I have not made ''many edits'' to this article. I added the section nicknames, three lines, and re-spelled the ''ghey'' line. That's all the edits, Yes, of course the templates. There were successful: &quot;redophil&quot; is gone. Guess no one says that. Like podo-phil, theretically valid, but not used. So what are these ''many edits''?<br /> :Can you list mistakes i made within other articles? I do not spell small letters, i know it is not accepted for articles. There are numerous places as of 2006, where this takes place. I am not the only one.&lt;br&gt;<br /> :I do not get if you refer to my edits to this articles, or to which other articles, i have created, or edited. There are visible from CTR-L (signature).&lt;br&gt;<br /> :You say pointless (duplicate data), see the [[Yahoo! Groups]] (i have edited much of it). I do believe some want to read float-text, others are looking for a feature list. I do believe it is good right now, and not full of mistakes, ''like most of my edits''.<br /> :I do not understand, why [[Yahoo! Avatars]] is unrelated- they support the display of redhead avatars. Personally i do not know, if a link to [[Cockney]] makes sense, or if it is (again) considered edit mistake/vandalism, if i just add one internal link. For other articles, i am not that pedantic, however i do not really remove data (see [[Matsuri]], can you do it better? - it has political connection, and was in bad state. It is not required to remove the link table. It is valid to use html exceptionally). A little talk about few my edits (grammar?) - see [http://rottentomatoes.com rottentomatoes.com]. The Dough Barber site pops up adverts, or it has popped up adverts in the past. It would not be wrong to switch to pop-up free web hosting. I do not get the point why i can not add rottentomatoes.com to here, just because i can not proove that it relates to &quot;tomato&quot; nickname. I have read (more than once) the british make spelling/grammar mistakes themselves. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 08:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You do not understand why a link to &quot;rottentomatoes.com&quot; is inappropriate for an article on red hair? Are you serious? [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 23:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: It puts people (browsing the article) to cinema movies - so to speak. that's NPOV, true, polically correct talking that red haired people are not... we leave it at this point. This site (rottentomtoes.com) does not attack red-haired people. Look, the article contained unsuitable stuff before i arrived. By the way i do not respond to Akidd_dublin anymore. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Removal of the South Park reference==<br /> <br /> Why was the link to the episode of South Park entitled Ginger Kids (can't get any more on-topic than that) removed from the Red Hair in Popular Culture section? South Park is a well known social satire and expresses the opinions of a lot of people, the episode itself highlights many views of people with Red Hair and therefore it is appropriate to this article. Added it back in<br /> <br /> ==Removal of link==<br /> I removed a link that I found to be not working. Just letting you know.[[User:Cjflash|Cjflash]] 03:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)cjflash<br /> <br /> ==Changing of picture==<br /> <br /> I changed the picture of the redheaded dude, it was more Auburn. Instead I have put in a picture of a man with very red ginger hair. Fnarf999 changed it back to my annoyance, he clearly hasnt got a clue. {{unsigned|Edgovan20}}<br /> :[[WP:CIVIL|Be civil]], please. Editors can have a difference of opinion on things like this without being clue-impaired. Auburn and &quot;ginger&quot; are both shades of red, and it's a judgment call which is the better image. Since it's your picture we're debating, maybe your annoyance comes from taking this a little personally?<br /> :Also, please add comments at the bottom of the page, not the top. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #f33&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;[[User talk:Rodii|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #669&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;rodii&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;middot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 01:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> I dont like the other pic, the guy looks a little creepy. Also its just distracting from the article, but I have decided to leave it seeing as the general consenus is that it should stay. However I added another picture, which is most definetely of cultural significance seperate from the other.<br /> :: I've reverted the picture back - the editors here need to talk this out on the talk page rather than playing revert tennis. Settle on a consensus on the images THEN change them - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 10:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> Oh and Peripitus, do not call the picture &quot;unattractive&quot;, i'm quite sure my friend would take offense to that. I dont see your picture on here at all...i wonder why. There is a page for people who look ugly you know, it doesnt have to go in your profile. - [[user:edgovan20|Ed]]<br /> ::::Perhaps you have misunderstood. The picture is unattractive that is not-[[aesthetics|aesthetic]]ally pleasing. This is not a slight on the subject but on the composition and overall impression the picture gives. The older picture is clearer and better illustrates the subject of the article - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 12:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's not &quot;your friend,&quot; it's you, and the only thing you've contributed to Wikipedia is to plant pictures of you on various pages--and none of them are really satisfactory images for the articles they're in. I don't like either picture, actually, but the older one is definitely better to illustrate red hair. For one thing, there's only one person in it, so there's no potential confusion. It's also more of a closeup, so more detail is visible. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #f33&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;[[User talk:Rodii|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #669&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;rodii&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;middot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 11:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Talk about a [[WP:LAME|lame edit war]]. I've protected the page and request both sides to discuss the pros and cons of the images here on the talk page. [[User:Angr|Angr]] ([[User talk:Angr|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Angr|c]]) 12:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> No its not me, it is my friend Ben Thompson. I know the summary of the pic says E W Govan, but that was meant to mean I took the photo. Roddi...put &quot;wan&quot; and &quot;ker&quot; together and that is what you are. The current picture is far too &quot;in your face&quot;, he looks a bit creepy and generaly does not make it very &quot;aethetically pleasing&quot;. My picture is not so &quot;in your face&quot;, it get the message across clearly.</div>

82.24.117.210 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Couch&diff=55265759 2006-05-26T15:37:30Z

<p>82.24.117.210: Reverting back - picture shall stay until a more suitable replacement is found</p> <hr /> <div>:''For the band by this name see [[Couch (band)]].''<br /> :''Sofa redirects here. For the band by this name see [[Sofa (band)]].''<br /> [[Image:Red sofa.jpg|right|thumb|Sofas come in a variety of colors, patterns, and materials (two-seater model)]]<br /> [[Image:Forngrekisk vilsoffa (ur Nordisk familjebok).png|thumb|Ancient Greek sofa]]<br /> [[Image:gingerfellow.jpg|right|thumb|Classic brown sofa]]<br /> A '''couch''', also known as a '''sofa''', '''settee''', '''lounge''', '''davenport''' or '''chesterfield''' is an item of [[furniture]] for the comfortable seating of more than one person.<br /> <br /> Couches are usually to be found in the [[living room]] or the [[lounge]]. They come in a variety of [[textile]]s and in [[leather]]. A typical couch seats two to three people and has an armrest on either side. Many different types of couch exist: popular types include the [[divan]], the [[chaise longue]], the [[canapé]] or the [[ottoman (furniture)|ottoman]]. Also, to save space, some sofas double as [[bed (furniture)|bed]]s (sofa-bed, daybed or [[futon]]).<br /> <br /> There are other types, including [[two-seater]], [[three-seater]], [[corner]] and chaise longue. A smaller version of the couch which may only comfortably seat two people is more commonly known as a [[loveseat]].<br /> <br /> A [[three-piece suite]] is composed of three couch pieces (generally, a two- or three-seater and two armchairs).<br /> <br /> == History ==<br /> The couch was originally an [[Arabian Peninsula|Arabian]] ruler's throne and has existed since [[Ancient history|antiquity]]. In Roman society the couch was found in the dining room, known as the 'triclinum'. Three couches would be arranged around a low table and the men would recline while eating (although the women sat in normal chairs).<br /> <br /> Originally it was an [[elitist]] piece of furniture and it was not until [[industrialization]] that the couch became an indispensable item of furniture in [[middle class|middle]] and [[lower class]] [[household]]s. Throughout its history it has often been an object of derision, considered a variety of things from [[decadence|decadent]] to [[conformism|conformist]].<br /> <br /> The couch is often associated with [[Freud]]ian [[psychoanalysis]]. Freud originally used the couch as a tool to aid his [[hypnosis]] of the patient. However when he moved on from hypnosis to [[stream-of-consciousness]] discourse as his dominant mode of analysis with the development of the [[interpretation of dreams]], he still held on to the couch. He justified this with the need to limit the [[transference]] between psychoanalyst and analysand. Thus, the couch proved particularly useful because it limits the visibility of the analyst.<br /> <br /> Today the couch is invariably linked to both domestic [[family]] life and [[television]] culture. It is often positioned in relation to the [[television set]] in a living room and for [[siesta]]. It has spawned social phenomena such as the [[couch potato]], a person who spends a lot of time watching the television. The couch has also become the central [[prop]] for many TV [[sitcom]]s and [[soap opera]]s. This symbiosis, through which the couch has shifted from the private to the public sphere, has been satirically depicted in popular culture, in television series such as ''[[Married... with Children]]'', ''[[The Simpsons]]'' and ''[[Beavis and Butt-head]]''.<br /> <br /> == See also ==<br /> {{commonscat|Couches}}<br /> *[[wiktionary:armchair|Armchair]]<br /> *[[Chair]]<br /> *[[Cushion]]<br /> <br /> {{unreferenced}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Furniture]]<br /> <br /> [[ar:صفة]]<br /> [[cs:Gauč]]<br /> [[da:Sofa]]<br /> [[de:Sofa]]<br /> [[eo:Sofo]]<br /> [[nl:Zitbank]]<br /> [[no:Sofa]]<br /> [[fi:Sohva]]<br /> [[sv:Soffa]]<br /> [[ja:ソファー]]</div>

82.24.117.210 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Red_hair&diff=55264435 2006-05-26T15:28:34Z

<p>82.24.117.210: </p> <hr /> <div>Previous discussions are archived here:<br /> <br /> *[[Talk:Red hair/Archive 1]]<br /> <br /> -----<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Martha Stewart show bit==<br /> <br /> I took out a paragraph describing a Martha Stewart show on redheads, as I don't think it added anything. Someone else disagreed and put it back - fair enough. But it's also (IHMO) poorly written at the moment. Would someone care to try to improve it? [[User:Ocicat|Ocicat]] 19:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==East Asian red-tinted hair==<br /> Numerous people I know with Chinese/Japanese/Korean origin have NATURAL red tint to their jet-black (from afar) hair. Is this a variant of &quot;the ginger gene&quot; or some other cause? It seems that most (Northern Mongoloids) have a red tint in their hair, naturally, in my experience. I am aware of the popular practice of dying hair a red tint in Asian countries, but many people have this naturally. Additional info? Shoudl this be added to the article? [[User:Chilledsunshine|Chilledsunshine]] 21:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, especially a good picture. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 09:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 红须绿眼 ==<br /> <br /> theres also a chinese saying, refering to western people. 红须绿眼 {{unsigned|Chinoiserie}}<br /> <br /> :What does that translate as? [[User:Hbackman|Hbackman]] 06:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Google translates it as &quot;Red to green eyes.&quot;--[[User:Gandalfe|Gandalfe]] 17:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> red beard green eyes {{unsigned|Chinoiserie}}<br /> <br /> ==Muhammad==<br /> It is not only white-history that claims that muhammad had red-hair, other sources also maintain that he did, Martin Lings for example. Von Scherwins work contains most of the informataion on this. {{unsigned|203.82.48.54}}<br /> <br /> :&quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_hair&amp;diff=44221674&amp;oldid=44175969 According to some sources]&quot; is easy to justify with &quot;some&quot; [[Wikipedia:Cite sources|references]]. A Google search for &quot;[[Martin Lings]]&quot; + &quot;[[red hair]]&quot; + various spellings of [[Muhammad]] comes up with '''[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;q=Mohammed++%7C+muhammad+%22red+hair%22+%22martin+lings%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta= eight]''' unique hits, none of which corroborate this claim.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Chocolateboy|chocolateboy]] 00:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Apparently there are hadith (narration about the life of Mohammed) that say he had red hair in his beard, but that's all. See [[Talk:Muhammad#Hair Colour|Talk:Muhammad]] {{unsigned|83.104.185.49}}<br /> <br /> He was supposed to have used henna, so you'd have to be clear on what his real hair color was supposed to have been. [[User:Schizombie|Esquizombi]] 16:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Africans ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Red hair also occurs amongst people of African descent; famous African-American redheads include Malcolm X.&quot;<br /> <br /> Whoaa- Malcolm X attributed his red hair to the fact that his grandmother (or great grandmother?) was raped by her Scottish owner. Don't quote me on that because I don't have his autobiography with me here. But I asked about that on the Malcolm X entry and someone confirmed that is in his autobigraphy. My point is - Is there ever red hair in black people from Africa that are not mixed race? Also, that is kind of a loaded sentence. I don't think you could just leave it the way it is without an explanation. IMHO --[[User:CDA|cda]] 17:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gingerphobia? Redophile? ==<br /> <br /> Can someone put some kind of reference up for those terms? They seem awfully unencyclopedic and made up.<br /> <br /> They are certainly not scientific. While &quot;gingerphobia&quot; is quoted (without attribution), &quot;redophile&quot; is treated as an established term. Seems more like a pun on the word &quot;paedophile&quot; to me. -- [[User:Ashmodai|Ashmodai]] 07:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The [[Catherine Tate]] episode includes the line, &quot;the police are some of the most gingerphobic people in society&quot; (2x01). Also see [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1999/02/99/e-cyclopedia/686977.stm]. Dunno about &quot;redophile&quot;.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Chocolateboy|chocolateboy]] 22:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's picky, somehow. I have seen ginger-head police-people myself here in dublin, ireland, more than once. What's true is the superstition about redhead, barefoot woman (in the middle age): you must cross your fingers then. If it is a redhead boy, you must spit out. If he does, then you are bewitched for that day. At own sites, i have the freedom to tell people things which are not completely true (but they contain some truth). If you see a redhead person, that's also good luck. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 08:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Australian info ==<br /> <br /> i added some info from Australia i thought should be on there about the word Wranger before another Australian beat me to it!<br /> <br /> == Offensive ==<br /> <br /> I removed the reference to ginger minger as it is deeply offensive, probably racist and no longer &quot;part of popular culture&quot;. It never was. Redheads were an easy target for lad culture on TV in the UK for a short time but broadcast guidelines now consider it offensive and its prevent. <br /> <br /> Similarly for wranger. Although I haven't lived in OZ for a couple of years I have never heard of this term, and no doubt its use will also disappear from TV in time. Supposedly the terms comes from comparing readheads to Orangutans. Would it be acceptable to compare a black person to an ape because they somehow resemble an ape. Definitely not. <br /> <br /> The popularization of such term on Wiki is deeply offensive. Would Wikipedia considered the popularization of similar offensive terms for blacks or asians acceptable? Definitely not. <br /> <br /> If you think this is over the top, wait till you have a red-headed child as I have and encounter people who think insulting terms like these are &quot;smart&quot; because they've seen them on TV or websites like this.<br /> <br /> Shame.<br /> <br /> *Wow. Extremely well written, anonymous. SOme of this, especially the first paragraph should go on the main page. I think it is better to instead of just deleting something, that we should document the history. I think the word nigger is on wikipedia and the historic timeline. I agree that racism against redhaired people is real ethnic racism. What, for example are you talking about UK TV. Is there something written that says &quot;from now on no one can be racist against red-haired people&quot;? I'd like to know about that. Maybe there should be a page just about racism against red-heads. Is there a page just about racism against black people or is it all together?--[[User:CDA|cda]] 00:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == disscusion ==<br /> <br /> i dont think its offensive, i have red hair myself and get called Wranger, Wrangs but most of the time now its more of a nick name then a insult. I think its a bit much to says its racist its more of a fad, people used to dine out on jews, then italians calling them wogs and things,japanies and chinese with things like slanties, dark skinned people before all that, i mean its a passing thing and its almost over any way, soon society will find a new target to vilify. But there is reason to take it off as it isnt very purdent to have it on a encyclopedia but there could be a sub section put in a while once the red haired hype has died down.<br /> <br /> == phobia/philia - some word clearing required ==<br /> <br /> phobia: greek word, fear of something. usually it makes up compound words.<br /> philia: greek word, love or affection of something.<br /> <br /> it occurs, but mixing greek and english does not sound very much.<br /> latin is more compatible (though not anyone speaks it).<br /> for red: ruber m, rubra f, rubrum n <br /> -rubraphil (to charge it only to love redhead woman)<br /> -ruberphil (does not sound)<br /> or try japanese: red-&gt; &quot;aka&quot; -&gt; &quot;akaphil&quot;. does not sound.<br /> probably &quot;akai&quot;?<br /> <br /> people talk in greek and latin words, but do they know their concepts, styles, views (their ancient world)?<br /> it really helps to use a dicitonary.<br /> <br /> i do not &quot;hear&quot; the word &quot;redophil&quot; sounding much valid.<br /> something like &quot;podo-phil&quot; (no one uses it).<br /> it sounds redo-phil (the affection/a preference to re-do something).<br /> red-o-phil is &quot;bad&quot; style (something like &quot;future-o-rama&quot;).<br /> people should not use such contructions.<br /> <br /> if you do not understand things: i cleared up words using a dictionary. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 11:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> There is not sufficient evidence of the term &quot;redophil&quot; on the internet. &quot;redophilia&quot; gives 124 hits (arachnophobia gives 232,000 hits). Hence it is a &quot;slang term&quot;, but a uncommon one. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 12:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The word is &quot;redophile&quot;, not &quot;redophil&quot;. It has 10,900 hits on Google. What's your point? [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::WOW. Feel free to use it. I am not redo-phile. If i paint my hairs red (not coloring them red), using real paint, this speaks on its own. I do not require this term. I do not see it efficient to edit this article anymore. redo-phile: the philia to redo something. ME NOT. It does not belong to (the) weasley article. Probably i remove it from there, when someone adds it. Because, thank of you, good grief, i can call it non-sense, and un-related vandalism. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: You miss my point again. I have no opinion on whether &quot;redophilia&quot; belongs in this article or not. I don't care one way or the other. I was merely pointing out that the justification YOU give for YOUR objection is based on a misunderstanding and a spelling error: you googled for the wrong word when you did your research. That's why you got so few hits; you spelled the word wrong. Please refrain from editing this article. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 17:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Nicknames for people with red/orange hair==<br /> *Tomato <br /> *Redhead <br /> *Ginger <br /> <br /> Hello red-heads. How do you feel about these terms? Any other friendly words? Do you see this list &quot;vandalism/offensive&quot;? [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The specific vandalism I referred to was your claim that 'ginger' is used as a nickname for the Gaiety Theatre on South King Street in Dublin, Ireland. Not only is that not true but it is entirely irrelevant in an article on red hair. That said, the edit you are talking about here issuperfluous. We already mention that 'redhead' and 'ginger' are nicknames and I dispute the use of 'tomato' which you did not [[WP:CITE|cite]]. I'm also going to remove your NPOV tag because you have not mentioned your reasoning here. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Superfluous --&gt; useful word, i keep it in mind. I believe the first part of the word &quot;Gaiety&quot; refers to the french &quot;gai&quot;, in a sense of meaning &quot;merriment&quot;. Cockney is a bit rude and talks in tomatoes, see the entry. Hence it is not violating the rules of [[cockney]]. Sorry if it looks like doing a bit vandalism. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The removing of the NPOV tag: it does not bug too much, and i do not believe the article is neutral, perfect or complete.<br /> &quot;Tomato&quot; --&gt; htpp://rottentomatoes.com<br /> <br /> ::: Huh? What does rottentomatoes.com have to do with red hair? No one is suggesting that &quot;tomato&quot; is not a word; it's just not a word REFERRING TO RED HAIR. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 00:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Probably you are too picky with asking for quotations, &lt;b&gt;it is not a reason to discard data&lt;/b&gt; (by policy), but it is possible to put a template on an article, which &quot;does not cite its sources&quot;. This means the complete article, not a single sentence. redophilia is not very widespread as well, 124 hits do not suggest that it is official slang. <br /> <br /> By the way i would like to take steps to improve this article, but i am too technical sometimes. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Being technical:<br /> &quot;We already mention that 'redhead' and 'ginger' are nicknames and I dispute the use<br /> of 'tomato' which you did not cite...&quot;<br /> *I do not know: who is &quot;We&quot;<br /> *It is accepted practice to produce &quot;extract&quot; sections, which contain data which is &quot;most relevant&quot;, especially in list form. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 16:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == cockney slang ==<br /> <br /> Is not it more the usage &quot;something is ''ginger''&quot;, which means queer, somehow, or dubious (like a unserious contract)?<br /> I do not believe that cockney calls &quot;redhead&quot; people &quot;ginger&quot;, to outline their membership to a special population group (i.e. one which is frequents bars).<br /> The article gives this idea.<br /> It requires to consult someone how knows cockney, to verify it.<br /> I believe cockney says &quot;this is ginger to me&quot;, and it does not have any reference to &quot;redhead&quot; people.<br /> :Well, I must say this is more likely than your contention that &quot;ginger&quot; refers to a specific building in Ireland. Nevertheless, you raise a good point. It is entirely possible that the term, &quot;ginger&quot;, does not refer to either gay people ''or'' a building in Ireland. Regardless, neither have '''anything''' to do with red hair and so I will remove the reference. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 14:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am no particular expert in Cockney rhyming slang but I have certainly heard &quot;ginger&quot; used as rhyming slang for &quot;queer&quot; (i.e. from &quot;ginger beer&quot;). The implication was homosexual but not especialy pejorative. There was no association with red hair.<br /> <br /> By the way &quot;Red hair&quot; just refers to animated objects with red hair, this includes various animals.<br /> The article needs rewrite towards talking about &quot;Red hair&quot; only, and not &quot;Red-haired_People&quot;.<br /> <br /> The pictures of &quot;Redhead people&quot; are nice, i ''like'' them personally.<br /> But, i do not see where to draw a line (how many to include), or why to include a specific person.<br /> A &quot;gallery&quot; of redhead people should be open to anyone red-head, probably it suits to open a special wiki for it.<br /> It is out of scope of a wikipedia article.<br /> I can connect a wiki immediately, one which is open to anyone to edit/add content.<br /> An article might include a picture of a prominent person (which is international recognizeable).<br /> <br /> The doughbarber.com site displays adverts, and opens pop-up windows. Hence it is a link to adverts, which might get removed (anyway it does not have to take place).<br /> The sub-page containing the information is not &quot;advert-free&quot;, and not &quot;pop-up free&quot;. [[User:Akidd dublin|alex]] 08:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == REWRITE ==<br /> <br /> if you prefer not to talk to me- probably you are scared from other websites.<br /> I am absolutely pro-redhead.<br /> However, this article is about the hair, and not the people.<br /> I plan to re-write it, and requested an extra article abuot the people.<br /> The cockney remark belongs to a dictionary of cockney, a reference to it is OK.<br /> There, it is possibly to demand that it figures the truth. (cockney: something &quot;looks&quot; ''ginger'')<br /> Wikipedia is not a closed society. Any redhead person can add pictures of own, how it looks... I would love it, but it is not an image gallery. It does not bug me and i wont remove the images, just saying. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 14:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now, this article undergoes various edit steps, which are not announced/discussed here.<br /> I have added the template [[Weasel words]], someone has removed it again.<br /> The passage about &quot;redophilia&quot; is gone, but it still has weasel words, especially &quot;some&quot;.<br /> I have added ==Nickname for redhead people==, including tomato (there is evidence for this).<br /> This was called &quot;vandalism&quot;.<br /> Now i try discuss this on the village pump (vandalism vs edit mistake). [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 12:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ** Akidd dublin: your many edits to this page are a source of frustration for me. They are of a uniformly low standard. I am guessing that you are not a native speaker of English, because you are obviously intelligent but make many, many small errors in spelling and grammar, of a sort that are unlikely in someone who is simply uneducated. Small errors like these can be corrected. But larger ones, of comprehension and appropriateness, cannot so easily be fixed.<br /> <br /> In addition, you have continually mixed up different topics. The accusation of &quot;vandalism&quot; was made in reference to a completely different edit than the one you claim; it was about the Gaiety Theatre and cockney rhyming slang. That insertion was both inaccurate and inappropriate. Vandalism is too strong a word for this error, and the person who said has retracted it. But it's more than just a simple error. <br /> <br /> The edit to which you are referring to here, like most of your edits, is grammatically incorrect (should be &quot;Nicknames&quot;) and, again, pointless: the information is already in the article, except for &quot;tomato&quot;. You claim evidence; let's see it.<br /> <br /> In short, I would like to encourage you to add value to the articles you edit. If you make valuable edits, others can correct your spelling and grammar. But if you add off-topic or repetitive nonsense, these edits must be removed. [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 17:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I absolutely do not get the point. I have not made ''many edits'' to this article. I added the section nicknames, three lines, and re-spelled the ''ghey'' line. That's all the edits, Yes, of course the templates. There were successful: &quot;redophil&quot; is gone. Guess no one says that. Like podo-phil, theretically valid, but not used. So what are these ''many edits''?<br /> :Can you list mistakes i made within other articles? I do not spell small letters, i know it is not accepted for articles. There are numerous places as of 2006, where this takes place. I am not the only one.&lt;br&gt;<br /> :I do not get if you refer to my edits to this articles, or to which other articles, i have created, or edited. There are visible from CTR-L (signature).&lt;br&gt;<br /> :You say pointless (duplicate data), see the [[Yahoo! Groups]] (i have edited much of it). I do believe some want to read float-text, others are looking for a feature list. I do believe it is good right now, and not full of mistakes, ''like most of my edits''.<br /> :I do not understand, why [[Yahoo! Avatars]] is unrelated- they support the display of redhead avatars. Personally i do not know, if a link to [[Cockney]] makes sense, or if it is (again) considered edit mistake/vandalism, if i just add one internal link. For other articles, i am not that pedantic, however i do not really remove data (see [[Matsuri]], can you do it better? - it has political connection, and was in bad state. It is not required to remove the link table. It is valid to use html exceptionally). A little talk about few my edits (grammar?) - see [http://rottentomatoes.com rottentomatoes.com]. The Dough Barber site pops up adverts, or it has popped up adverts in the past. It would not be wrong to switch to pop-up free web hosting. I do not get the point why i can not add rottentomatoes.com to here, just because i can not proove that it relates to &quot;tomato&quot; nickname. I have read (more than once) the british make spelling/grammar mistakes themselves. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 08:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You do not understand why a link to &quot;rottentomatoes.com&quot; is inappropriate for an article on red hair? Are you serious? [[User:Fnarf999|Fnarf999]] 23:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: It puts people (browsing the article) to cinema movies - so to speak. that's NPOV, true, polically correct talking that red haired people are not... we leave it at this point. This site (rottentomtoes.com) does not attack red-haired people. Look, the article contained unsuitable stuff before i arrived. By the way i do not respond to Akidd_dublin anymore. [[User:Akidd dublin|Akidd dublin]]•[[User talk:Akidd dublin|tl]]•[[User:Akidd dublin/contribution|ctr-l]] 16:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Removal of the South Park reference==<br /> <br /> Why was the link to the episode of South Park entitled Ginger Kids (can't get any more on-topic than that) removed from the Red Hair in Popular Culture section? South Park is a well known social satire and expresses the opinions of a lot of people, the episode itself highlights many views of people with Red Hair and therefore it is appropriate to this article. Added it back in<br /> <br /> ==Removal of link==<br /> I removed a link that I found to be not working. Just letting you know.[[User:Cjflash|Cjflash]] 03:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)cjflash<br /> <br /> ==Changing of picture==<br /> <br /> I changed the picture of the redheaded dude, it was more Auburn. Instead I have put in a picture of a man with very red ginger hair. Fnarf999 changed it back to my annoyance, he clearly hasnt got a clue. {{unsigned|Edgovan20}}<br /> :[[WP:CIVIL|Be civil]], please. Editors can have a difference of opinion on things like this without being clue-impaired. Auburn and &quot;ginger&quot; are both shades of red, and it's a judgment call which is the better image. Since it's your picture we're debating, maybe your annoyance comes from taking this a little personally?<br /> :Also, please add comments at the bottom of the page, not the top. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #f33&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;[[User talk:Rodii|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #669&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;rodii&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;middot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 01:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> I dont like the other pic, the guy looks a little creepy. Also its just distracting from the article, but I have decided to leave it seeing as the general consenus is that it should stay. However I added another picture, which is most definetely of cultural significance seperate from the other.<br /> :: I've reverted the picture back - the editors here need to talk this out on the talk page rather than playing revert tennis. Settle on a consensus on the images THEN change them - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 10:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> Oh and Peripitus, do not call the picture &quot;unattractive&quot;, i'm quite sure my friend would take offense to that. I dont see your picture on here at all...i wonder why. There is a page for people who look ugly you know, it doesnt have to go in your profile. - [[user:edgovan20|Ed]]<br /> ::::Perhaps you have misunderstood. The picture is unattractive that is not-[[aesthetics|aesthetic]]ally pleasing. This is not a slight on the subject but on the composition and overall impression the picture gives. The older picture is clearer and better illustrates the subject of the article - [[User:Peripitus|Peripitus]] 12:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's not &quot;your friend,&quot; it's you, and the only thing you've contributed to Wikipedia is to plant pictures of you on various pages--and none of them are really satisfactory images for the articles they're in. I don't like either picture, actually, but the older one is definitely better to illustrate red hair. For one thing, there's only one person in it, so there's no potential confusion. It's also more of a closeup, so more detail is visible. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #f33&quot;&gt;&amp;middot;[[User talk:Rodii|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #669&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;rodii&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;middot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 11:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Talk about a [[WP:LAME|lame edit war]]. I've protected the page and request both sides to discuss the pros and cons of the images here on the talk page. [[User:Angr|Angr]] ([[User talk:Angr|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Angr|c]]) 12:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> No its not me, it is my friend Ben Thompson. I know the summary of the pic says E W Govan, but that was meant to mean I took the photo. Roddi...put &quot;wan&quot; and &quot;ker&quot; together and that is what you are.</div>

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